Strange coincidence with two private on Chaturbate... thoughts?

[HeadyRaven]

I wasn't sure if I should put this in "Ask a Model" or in the Chaturbate section, but since these situations both happened on CB, I put it here. (Even though I don't think it's anything specific to the site, so maybe that wasn't the right call).

Anyway,I've been around sites long enough to have seen most things from a customer standpoint. I've known a few models outside work as well, so there's that too. But recently, a couple of privates on CB had some odd things in common and I'm not sure if it is coincidence or I'm being paranoid to wonder if not a coincidence.

Specifically: I did a couple of premium privates with two different models during the last week or so. Nothing unusual about the sessions except the same thing happened as follows: At some point, probably 20-25 minutes or more into the session (well past whatever the minimum was), things were going along (albeit slowly; there was kind of a "time dragging" element to both) and the sessions suddenly ended. I got the screen saying, "The model is not available." No warning. Nothing happened to precipitate this. Nothing to even indicate the models themselves ended the sessions. I was perplexed. This happened in two different rooms, two different models - no (apparent) connection. BUT... what's weird (aside that this happened twice in a span of several days to a week) is the parts that were similar in both cases:

After this happened and I was thinking, "Okay...did she end the session? Was it some technical problem?" I get a PM from the model in both cases saying very similar words, "What happened?" And I responded along the lines of, "No idea, but I didn't end the private. Seems it was ended on your side." Then, almost exact response from both models in both situations: "Oh, this is my internet here." But strangely, model in each case was very quickly back online in public in her room. And then, in BOTH cases, the models waited a bit and sent another PM saying, "Will you return? Do you have TG? We can communicate there."

Okay, so I would have not connected these two incidents at all in my mind except for that last part about Telegram. It almost seemed scripted. But I don't get where stopping a private comes into play or how that would be a good thing. The other thing these situations had in common is that both models were Russian; both were in the "partially non-nude" category if there is such a term; and neither spoke much English. No clear indication they are in the same location or studio... though the (maybe) coincidental aspects of these situations makes me wonder. Oh, also, in both of the sessions, it seemed at times that these models were getting "direction" or "coaching" from someone off camera or just outside the room... weirdly enough.

Sorry for this long post about something rather trivial. I'm just curious about it. The other part to mention is that the way this went down, it didn't inspire me to want to return to either model - and especially to not start interacting with either on Telegram. Something gave me a yellow flag.

 

[cbhours]

the sessions suddenly ended. I got the screen saying, "The model is not available."

I don't remember that screen but I don't do privates often.

Edit: was it part of the video? Is it in the private recording?

 

[droopla]

i have never seen that text , normally you get in chat "Private show has ended" and in the video window "away" or if it's really bad "offline".
If it's a fabricated text you may still be in private (and paying) while you think it's public
Both models where most likely from the same studio and they tried to trick you into telegram or a new private (with new minimum time)

 

[HeadyRaven]

I didn't think of that about the recording, so I went back to look. I forgot that there was a recording saved. To answer the question, it was not part of the recording. The recording ended at the point that the private was ended.

The screen was a window I've occasionally seen before. It just said the model is offline or something. I don't think it was fabricated. The private actually ended.

 

[HeadyRaven]

i have never seen that text , normally you get in chat "Private show has ended" and in the video window "away" or if it's really bad "offline".
If it's a fabricated text you may still be in private (and paying) while you think it's public
Both models where most likely from the same studio and they tried to trick you into telegram or a new private (with new minimum time)

Oh, you could be on to something about minimums. If it's something intentional, you're right, it could be to trick the customer to starting a new private with a new minimum. Although I was continuing on with the private, so it seems like a strange strategy. Maybe it really was an internet problem.

I think the part that made me wonder about these incidents was that in both cases, the models immediately brought up Telegram after this occurred. I'm more of a StripChat person, so maybe I haven't seen that so much. I realize that Chaturbate is totally different, so maybe it's not a big deal for them to be asking me for my TG. Just an odd coincidence. What's the angle? We'll become correspondents?

 

[Vixxen81]

A ton of models on CB use TG because it's encrypted. It's allowed by CB as one of the social media buttons.

If it happens again, take a screen shot so we can see.

There are very clear differences between password, private, spying, and away/offline activities.

Also, when you run out of tokens the show immediately stops and no one but you has control over that.

 

[HeadyRaven]

A ton of models on CB use TG because it's encrypted. It's allowed by CB as one of the social media buttons.

If it happens again, take a screen shot so we can see.

There are very clear differences between password, private, spying, and away/offline activities.

Also, when you run out of tokens the show immediately stops and no one but you has control over that.

This is now a little outdated but to answer: The screen that had popped up was "Model is offline." Basically, it was as though the internet connection abruptly dropped at the studio. My own internet was fine and other rooms on the site were fine.

I didn't run out of tokens.

I am not sure what it was about but if it wasn't a random internet outage at the model's location, the other poster might be on to something about a trick to get me to re-join a private, charging another minimum. Something like that might not be out of the question. It turns out that since that time, I've had some strange TG experiences with one of the models that was part of this story. I am going to post about that separately.

 

[snizzarfle]

This is now a little outdated but to answer: The screen that had popped up was "Model is offline." Basically, it was as though the internet connection abruptly dropped at the studio. My own internet was fine and other rooms on the site were fine.

I didn't run out of tokens.

I am not sure what it was about but if it wasn't a random internet outage at the model's location, the other poster might be on to something about a trick to get me to re-join a private, charging another minimum. Something like that might not be out of the question. It turns out that since that time, I've had some strange TG experiences with one of the models that was part of this story. I am going to post about that separately.

not only is something like that possible - it happens all the time, and is a common tactic I've seen in mostly South American studio models' rooms. the private will be near the end of the minimum period, and suddenly you're booted from teh private, and the model seems surprised, but immediately encourages you to start a new one, which of course ensures you'll be there for at least as long again, due to the minimum. I'm not saying disconnections don't happen without any involvement of the studio - of course they do - but after a while you can recognize the behavior and circumstances that feel 'off'. Notice i only mentioned the studio's potential involvement - this is an intentional distinction, because i do not believe the models are doing this kind of thing of their own volition, usually. The studios control much of what goes on in their models rooms, pressuring them to do things a certain way, (or assisting them, depending on how you view it) , or often, directly interacting with the users , sending PMs and posting in main chat, while appearing to be the model themselves. Anyway, I went off on a tangent there, but the point is that scenarios like that are common, in some studio-run rooms..

[edit] incidentally, i was speaking with a Russian model who I've gotten to know pretty well, just yesterday, and she was telling me that her previous job, before camming herself, was as a studio "operator". similar to what the South American models call their studio "monitors". She was telling me in detail how her job was to interact with the users on behalf of the model(s) she was assigned to, posing as them in PMs and in the main chat, while also prompting the model with instructions on how to behave, or what she needed to do to maximize engagement, etc. it was rather fascinating, as she shared a lot more details than these. just the fact that you mentioned the models being Russian made me think of this conversation I had yesterday. [/edit]

 

[BlackWizard]

I had few times situation during pvts when pvt was cancelled automatically, not by user but because of issue and after i back to my room i was also not in my own room sometimes 1-2 minutes!! I saw users in my room , but not me . I dont have many pvts because im more open chat player, but i had this situations.... So if pvt was cancelled not by me neither user, i clicked exit away mode and i back to my room but i wasnt there, probably i was "not available" . And this could be annoying, one man tipped me a lot, over 4000 tkn in open chat before he reqyested pvt, then he asked for lower price to start pvt , and i did it because of tons tokens he already spent, and 3 mins on pvt and booom- this situation happened,. Of course i sent dm to him instantly but u know how it looks. I have no idea if this could be the same but its firsrt thing which came to my head

 

[prizenka]

This has happened to me too and is happening. A client writes to me why I turned off pvt. I told him that I didn't turn off pvt. Then he asks why I'm offline? I replied that when pvt is turned off or ends, the model goes offline. Then you will find out that the client is using a mobile phone or wifi. And I kept explaining that mobile and wifi are not stable things. And when I sent my clients my connection, which is high, they stopped bothering me and acknowledged the problem on their side. Then it could be a problem on the site.

 

[HeadyRaven]

She was telling me in detail how her job was to interact with the users on behalf of the model(s) she was assigned to, posing as them in PMs and in the main chat, while also prompting the model with instructions on how to behave, or what she needed to do to maximize engagement, etc. it was rather fascinating, as she shared a lot more details than these.

Yeah, in a different post under the "Ask a Model" forum, I talk about strange Telegram interactions I've been having with a Russian model, where at least sometimes, she's clearly not writing the replies (Or someone is coaching her on what to reply). I didn't mention it in that post, but when we've interacted in private chats on the site, I've experienced exactly what you described there, too. I do believe that at times, she's really answering me. But other times, a monitor seems to insert himself or herself and responds for her. It's really off-putting because the change in tone is so obvious.

 

[rockin_rod]

All of this ^ is very common with studios, both running rooms and social media accounts.
Maybe you're better off looking for indie broadcasters, rather than studio models.