Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?? !

[LovelyLeigha]

Hey girls!

A couple days ago I took a chance on something kinda stupid.

Stupid mainly because I'm desperate to increase my chat room visitors and my income while camming.

Also stupid because if I was going to promote myself, I should have tried to contact Twitter directly first,
but didn't even try that yet.

I received an email from this company

FollowesForTwitter.com and paid them $65 to help me advertise so that I would get 5,000 new followers.
Their checkout system was a bit troublesome, which resulted in me being billed twice by accident,
and they emailed me a confirmation that one of the fees is being refunded, but I have not received the refund yet,
and they said it could take a week or two for the refund to go back into my account, which all seemed on the
up and up.

So the website is http://www.FollowersForTwitter.com/

and I am wondering have any of you used this company before, or tried paying to promote your twitter account
before?

What were the results?

Here are my thoughts on this:

1. If I could very rapidly increase my twitter followers from it's current approximate 500 follower to 5,000 or 25,000,
especially if they were real followers that wanted to follow me and were interested in cam girls, that in turn that
could rapidly increase traffic not just in my chat room, but in other models' chatrooms at myfreecams and help the
entire site over all.

2. If all of the models new the best, most affordable, most effective way, of promoting and growing their twitter accounts,
VERY quickly, then we would ALL reap the financial rewards together.

I mean sure, it is great to think, "Well, if I promote my twitter account, then I will get lots of traffic."

BUT CONSIDER THIS, I am estimating that there are about 10,000 models signed up at MyFreeCams.com based on
rankings for the Miss MFC Competition one month when I was slow to earn any tokens during the first week of the month.

If there was a great way for us to promote our twitter accounts, and MyFreeCams sent out a mass email on the
modeling system to all the models, so that we all knew the best way to quickly grow an adult content twitter account,
just imagine how that would boost traffic to the entire website!

I mean, we are already the most powerful camming site in the world, as far as I'm concerned, but would more money be
better?!

Especially for those of us who have kids and student loan debts and medical bills and aging, elderly family members
that we are trying to take care of??? For those of us who work hard at cams, and know about all the stuggles we
deal with on a daily basis as cam models???? For those of us who have been doing this biz for 5 years and who are
tired of some dude making us want to barf with his incest fantasy in the middle of Private Mode, and wish we could get
more business from normal guys, rather than guys who want to secretly be fucked by their mom or want to secretly
pretend that they are raping you, etc???

Please chime in!

I would love your input, advice, experiences, feedback, and marketing ideas and techniques of any kind!

I know that sometimes the view on marketing ideas is very competitive, but we all have to realize that powerful
marketing techniques are MUCH MORE POWERFUL if we are all using and implementing these techniques at the same
time.

If we all have a flood of customers, no one will be stuggling, right?
We will all be rewarded.

Much love and peace and joy!

Sincerely,

me

LovelyLeigha

Email: LovelyLeighaOfficialEmail@yahoo.com

Profile: Profiles.MyFreeCams.com/LovelyLeigha

Thank you everyone! Hope to hear back!

 

[BlueViolet]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

I definitely don't see anything wrong with using legitimate twitter follower services (ones that advertise on the right places and get you real human followers and not robots) but higher Twitter followers a lot of times has absolutely no correlation to your room count. At least it's never for me. I have about 4,500 and never had anyone tell me they found me on Twitter, I only use it for telling my regulars when I'm logging online.

The best form of marketing for Twitter, in my opinion, is by simply following and communicating with other models or adult entertainers. I only follow other models really because we have so much in common that it's easy to find something to talk about or to share advice or whatever. And a lot of times I'll find out that models I've been talking to followed me back or retweeted me, and when I check their account, sometimes they'll have a massive amount of followers--several that have between 20,000 - 30,000+ followers.

So anytime they retweet or tweet back to me, all their twitter followers are able to see it. So their followers will think that if the person they are following thinks another person is cool enough to talk to, maybe they should check them out as well. I know I've followed many other camgirls simply because someone I was following was tweeting at them and I thought the conversation was funny or interesting.

Not to mention, if you are active on Twitter and have a good bit of followers in the industry or who follow people in the industry, you'll be more likely to show up under "who to follow" for other people. If you have a sexy or interesting profile pic and username/name, you'll easily get a lot of new followers simply from being recommended to people you've never talked to.

Also, posting sexy pictures of yourself with the right hashtags can be better at getting you the right followers than using a service. #tittytuesday #friskyfriday and #thongthursday are some good hastags to utilize. Not only will they be seen by people searching for the hashtag, anyone who really likes it (and who doesn't like tits and ass, really?) will a lot of times retweet it to their followers and their followers will check it out and like to follow or retweet you as well. And a lot of camgirls will retweet those hashtags, too.

#followfriday is a good one, too.

But like I said, the more Twitter followers doesn't always automatically give you higher room numbers, and even so it's mostly freeloaders, but it might help other paying regulars find you.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

Agreed. Twitter became rather irritating for me actually. the nly people who ever seemed to communicate there never tipped. I hardly ever knew who anyone was, because there were so many, and most who followed me were models anyway. Eventually, I simply made it to where I only allowed certain people to even look at it (ones who tipped every month/club members/models. I like my twitter much more now.

 

[pg240]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

I'll be interested to see if you indeed get your 5,000 followers and, if so, just how many of them are in the market for adult entertainment.

Regardless, I wish you well in your efforts to boost your business.

Oh, I followed you on Twitter a few days ago because of your activity here, proving once again the impact and influence of ACF.

 

[Evvie]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

and I am wondering have any of you used this company before, or tried paying to promote your twitter account
before?

What were the results?

I have not.

Here are my thoughts on this:

1. If I could very rapidly increase my twitter followers from it's current approximate 500 follower to 5,000 or 25,000,
especially if they were real followers that wanted to follow me and were interested in cam girls, that in turn that
could rapidly increase traffic not just in my chat room, but in other models' chatrooms at myfreecams and help the
entire site over all.

This does not seem likely or realistic to me. Even if you can pay for/get those followers, typically models do not receive a large amount of their income from twitter stuff. Usually, fans find you on twitter instead of guys finding you on twitter and becoming fans. Men who are likely to follow you are likely already on a camsite spending money. It is noble to want to increase traffic on MFC, but a twitter account with 25k followers would not do that. I have seen one model say that once she hit about 8k followers she noticed some traffic generated from twitter... SOME.

2. If all of the models new the best, most affordable, most effective way, of promoting and growing their twitter accounts,
VERY quickly, then we would ALL reap the financial rewards together.

I think it is an error to assume that twitter is the path to earnings.

BUT CONSIDER THIS, I am estimating that there are about 10,000 models signed up at MyFreeCams.com based on
rankings for the Miss MFC Competition one month when I was slow to earn any tokens during the first week of the month.

I believe it is estimated there are about 30000-40000 MFC models with active accounts.

If there was a great way for us to promote our twitter accounts, and MyFreeCams sent out a mass email on the
modeling system to all the models, so that we all knew the best way to quickly grow an adult content twitter account,
just imagine how that would boost traffic to the entire website!

Remember that MFC already has its own advertising efforts. It is also not MFC's place to ask models to advertise for the site as a whole. Many models do not share your happy vision of an interconnected workplace where we all generate traffic and earnings for each other. Many models would also be unhappy that now twitter is being flooded with new model accounts that look identical to each other because they are all parroting what a single e-mail says. I think that perhaps you underestimate how quickly mfc's homepage gets a hundred thousand hits... it is not a site which lacks advertising power.

For those of us who have been doing this biz for 5 years and who are
tired of some dude making us want to barf with his incest fantasy in the middle of Private Mode, and wish we could get
more business from normal guys, rather than guys who want to secretly be fucked by their mom or want to secretly
pretend that they are raping you, etc???

I'm sorry, but everything you do in private you are ALLOWING and CONSENTING to be done. Unless you are with a studio that physically forces you to carry out these acts, it is your choice to do so. I've done plenty of icky things in private with the full knowledge that I choose to, and if I didn't want to do those things, I wouldn't.

I know that sometimes the view on marketing ideas is very competitive, but we all have to realize that powerful
marketing techniques are MUCH MORE POWERFUL if we are all using and implementing these techniques at the same
time.

The thing is, though, that it is not the model's job to advertise for MFC. It is MFC's job. That is why they take 40% of your money. If MFC started asking models to get together and advertise, they should also expect to take less money. And in the end, a group of models promoting on twitter will never be as effective as what MFC's advertising staff can do. I also very much doubt the power of using twitter to generate interest on camsites.

If we all have a flood of customers, no one will be stuggling, right?
We will all be rewarded.

No, absolutely not. That's not how a free economy works.


This seems like a nice idea and an interesting topic of discussion, but unless someone can start finding millions of followers and creating an online empire for a model, I highly doubt twitter is going to be a gateway that opens a flux of "normal" men who distribute equally amongst models and obligingly hand out cash.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

BUT CONSIDER THIS, I am estimating that there are about 10,000 models signed up at MyFreeCams.com based on
rankings for the Miss MFC Competition one month when I was slow to earn any tokens during the first week of the month.

I believe it is estimated there are about 30000-40000 MFC models with active accounts.

Yep, over 108,000 registered models, around 35,000 online in the last 30 days and around 21,000 in the last month, as of this posting date. https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=12555#p313381

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

Buying Twitter followers will only lead to disappointment, embarrassment when people notice your followers are mostly fake, and waste of money.

It's really obvious when a person has bought followers.

 

[LovelyLeigha]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

Awesome! I just logged in and saw all of the replies so far!

You all had some incredibly awesome, informative, and very interesting and insightful ideas!

And thank you so much!

I will keep you all posted on exactly the outcome of this little twitter experiment of mine.

Also, the larges follower account I ever had on twitter was during my highest earning year ever
at MyFreeCams, and the follower count got to about 4,000+ just from my posting lost of sexy pics, and
things like that.

However, I changed my model name, and deleted that twitter account, because I got a little concerned
about my face being every where.

So now, I post lots of random, bizarre, and sexy things, and try to hide my face in pics I post there, and
have vowed to never delete a twitter account again.

Can't wait to post a reply again later to update you all on what happens with this so-called genuine twitter
follower company in two weeks!

Happy camming ladies!

Sincerely,
LovelyLeigha

 

[SierraTonin]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

First part is sort of related, sort of not...

I am more inclined to follow a person who already has a lot of followers. Although this isn't true, I FEEL as though a person with more followers is more active on twitter and has more interesting things to say. I think a lot of people are more inclined to follow a person who has a lot of followers because it makes them appear popular.

You may not neccessarily gain more traffic in your MFC room from the followers that you BOUGHT... and half the time even if you do, they are probably guesting/basicing it. BUT, I think it may give you the snowball effect in the case that you are more impressionable upon genuine followers and may gain more and more followers after that.

Also a good idea is to just go on crazy following sprees and follow as many cammodels/porn actresses/strippers that you can, because the more similar types of people you follow on twitter, the more followbacks you get, and you will pop-up on people's "who to follow" lists that are looking to follow people in the industry. That has been more successful for me than anything else, following models and talking to them and whatnot. The only traffic I have gotten in my room from twitter is other models, or members who have seen me tweeting to their favorite model, etc.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

Buying Twitter followers will only lead to disappointment, embarrassment when people notice your followers are mostly fake, and waste of money.

It's really obvious when a person has bought followers.

Pretty funny when a model goes from 50,000+ followers to like 600.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

I am more inclined to follow a person who already has a lot of followers. Although this isn't true, I FEEL as though a person with more followers is more active on twitter and has more interesting things to say. I think a lot of people are more inclined to follow a person who has a lot of followers because it makes them appear popular.

I tend to agree with you on that. I give a bias toward people with more followers in general. But then I also wonder if I should because I protect my tweets and only allow followers that are strictly MFC or ACF related. So I'm only at 39 right at the moment due to declining dozens per week. So I should know better, I just don't.

 

[LovelyLeigha]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

Oh my gosh, I love this forum.

Okay so here is an update on what has been happening.

Well,

I am going to respond to a few people on this thread and also

I am going to tell you all about my experiences thus far with the company instantfollowers.com

Okay,

here I go...

So...

First a quick a quick and brief response,

yes I agree that twitter followers are more valuable if they are people who have noticed you and chosen to follow you,
which is what the twitter promo company promised they could achieve for me, (but we will get to my shaken confidence
in them shortly),

yes I agree that image is very important, and that a person / model / entertainer who appears to be already successful
can achieve a snowball affect of popularity increase,

and thank you to every one else for your comments and input. I read all of it, and I really really like everything that all of
you had to share, so

I really want to be sure and update you on what has happened with this company instantfollowers.com

First of all this is what and how they claim to help you:

http://www.instantfollowers.com/how-it-works/

But, here is what has happened.

After a long live chat on the home page with a person called Leo Ravelli or something like that,
a few days ago I attempted to purchase one of the smaller packages.

It went like this:

Pulled out credit card,
attempted to purchase ... purchase said it failed ...
thought maybe I mistyped something ...
attempted to purchase again ... purchase said it failed ...
customer service said yes it failed ...
I thought okay, maybe I will try my other card ...
pulled out other card ...
attempted to purchase ... purchase said it failed ...
what?! ... I ask the rep "Are you located out side of the US?"
And he/she is like "Yes we are in UK but this particular payment process option should work, here is the link..."
I attempt for a 4th time to purchase, (2nd time on 2nd card), get a message that it failed.
Then customer service says, "Oh it went through twice on the 2nd card. We will send you a refund for the 2nd
one, but you won't get the refund for 7 to 10 business days."
Fuck fuck fuck.
I start checking my transaction history on both card like a hawk for the next (previous) few days, and
discover...
no refund has come through, AND
TO MY HORRIFIED SURPRISE...
The first card I had tried to use is now showing two preliminary charges for 1 dollar each, coming from them,
with notes saying that these transactions will complete in 5 days, but that the actual full amount of those transactions
is yet to be announced.

IMMEDIATELY I AM PISSED AT MYSELF.

I BROKE ONE OF MY RULES OF MY FINANCES.

NEVER BUY ON A WEBSITE THAT YOU OR SOMEONE CLOSE TO YOU HAS NOT ALREADY HAD
A TRUSTWORTHY TRANSACTION WITH BEFORE.

I had to call my bank card and my credit card. Report all 4 unauthorized transactions.
Cancel my cards as stolen.
Now I am waiting for new cards to arrive.
Was not able to speak to a person on the phone yet for my bank, so automated system just shut down
my card by automated lost and stolen menu.
Was able to speak to a person with my capital one credit card, who reassured me that a new card would
be sent in 2 to 3 business days expedited and that the preliminary charges would not go through,
so HOPEFULLY THEY ARE RIGHT ABOUT THAT AND I DON'T GET OVER DRAWN.
I have no idea, until I call on Monday to my bank, and until I just sit and watch what happens,
what will actually happen with
this

GIANT CLUSTER FUCK.

I AM SORRY TO SAY, I WOULD NOT RECCOMMED THAT COMPANY!

I told their Leo Ravioli or whoever that I appreciated the criminal mind, lol, and that if they were scamming
people by redirecting them to a page that said, "transaction failed" or "errro" which in affect causes the person to
continue trying to pay repeatedly, that he/she was clever lol, but that I did not not appreciate it,

and

I told she/he that if they gave a damn about their business, they would seriously look into what was going wrong,
because that is a cluster fuck if I ever saw one of bad coding in payment gateway functionality.

Ugh.

Anyways, FMM (fuck my moment) lol.

I am not expecting to see any increase in my twitter followers other than the ones that are generated by me doing
what I usually do,

tweet random shit,

tweet images,

tweet hashtag shit,

tweet sexy or funny shit,

retweet,

follow back,

follow models,

and follow those who like models (most importantly follow those who like webcam models).

Well, I hope no one else has this problem.

It goes to show, the one time I break one of my rules for my finances, I get a giant bite in my ass.

I have to admit though,

there is only one way to get rich, and it's not by eliminating risk,
it is by managing risk and trying new things, in my opinion.



Ugh!

I just wanna have 1,000 plus viewers in my chat room like this chick did on cam this morning!!!!

She wasn't breaking any rules,
she wasn't nude,
she wasn't that hot, very natural/normal looking,
she wasn't over the top,
she did not have on makeup,
she was nice.
I'm going to ask her how she got 1,000 in there!
I will report back if she replies to me!!!

See the way I see this webcam thing is,
and I know some people disagree because they can't get past the competition aspect,
is this:

You have a strip club,
say that club as 10 dancers,
say that the average visitor count is 100 in and out the door per night,
say that the each dancer averages from $400 to $1000 dollars per week, and
sometime one girl will make $3,000 in a week.
WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER IF THE CLUB AVERAGED 1,000 IN AND OUT THE DOOR PER NIGHT,
THE DANCERS ALL AVERAGED FROM $4,000 TO $10,000 PER WEEK, AND
SOMETIMES ONE GIRL WILL MAKE $30,000 IN A WEEK?
AND IF THIS GOAL WAS TOTALLY AND EASILY ACHIEVEABLE BY ALL OF THE GIRLS PUTTING THEIR HEADS
TOGETHER AND SHARING EVERY TECHNIQUE FOR MARKETING, ADVERTISING, AND JUST GENERAL WORK TECHNIQUES,
AND MAXIMIZING THEIR OVERALL EFFECTIVENESS AS A TEAM. A SNOWBALL EFFECT FOR EVERYONE????

As always

All my love

LovelyLeigha

Twitter.com/LovelyLeighaCom
LovelyLeigha.com

 

[KaterinaPryde]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

You could check out Fiverr and see if anyone is willing to do a similar service.... For $5 if you don't see a result you haven't lost much

 

[LovelyLeigha]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

Very cool!

Okay here is the email I sent to the sweet gal who had 1,000+ people in her chat while
she was so natural and classy earlier today!

...

Hey.
I hope you might have a moment this week to reply to me...
I really like your chat room and your profile.
I noticed it briefly today,
and noticed you have 1,000+ viewers in your chat room, and
gals are brainstorming about how we can all be more effective
at bringing more people to the website in general.
I would like to know if you have any advice, tips, or secrets,
that you would be willing to share? With me or with us at this link...
https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... 95#p371495
If you want to share info with me privately let me know.
If it is okay with you I would like to share your advice with other models
at the forum that I linked to above.
Check out my profile some time
Thank you so much for being a part of MyFreeCams.
Some girls here are all caught up in the competition...
but as a business woman,
I firmly believe,
that all of the girls here are a team,
and if we were all more open about sharing our powerful marketing techniques,
we would all experience a snowball effect of,
extreme success!!!
Love,
Leigha

...

Her model name was On_line.
Some cool models I have talked briefly with in the past are
Kattie_ (who retired after some major success) and xWildThingX and AmberCutie
Very cool chicks!
There have been a couple of others who communicated with me at MFC
over the years, but unfortunately I can not recalled their screen names.
I also spoke to one of those mega tippers once.
I saw this guy tip an unspeakable life changing kind of amount of money in a gals
room.
He basically just said that he saved up his tokens, that he'd taken a liking to her,
and just felt like doing something nice for her,
Gosh, wish that could happen for all of us, like yesterday. But I would settle for
today!!!

Peace!

 

[southsamurai]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

You have a strip club,
say that club as 10 dancers,
say that the average visitor count is 100 in and out the door per night,
say that the each dancer averages from $400 to $1000 dollars per week, and
sometime one girl will make $3,000 in a week.
WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER IF THE CLUB AVERAGED 1,000 IN AND OUT THE DOOR PER NIGHT,
THE DANCERS ALL AVERAGED FROM $4,000 TO $10,000 PER WEEK, AND
SOMETIMES ONE GIRL WILL MAKE $30,000 IN A WEEK?
AND IF THIS GOAL WAS TOTALLY AND EASILY ACHIEVEABLE BY ALL OF THE GIRLS PUTTING THEIR HEADS
TOGETHER AND SHARING EVERY TECHNIQUE FOR MARKETING, ADVERTISING, AND JUST GENERAL WORK TECHNIQUES,
AND MAXIMIZING THEIR OVERALL EFFECTIVENESS AS A TEAM. A SNOWBALL EFFECT FOR EVERYONE????

strangely it doesnt work like that in the clubs, least not any of the ones i worked at. up to a certain point highers numbers does increase cash flow. but when you get past the 400 mark or so it sometimes goes backwards. didnt make sense to me until i started paying attention. when the house is full, every seat taken (which in the local clubs is around 50 people inside at once, most guys staying between an hour and three hours) the stage shows get the real attention. and on stage most of the ladies get singles. most of the time a guy will go up and put a one in the ol garter belt, this spurs a handful to follow him. but that isnt how the money is made really. the individual dancer earned more by table and private dances. (usually stage tips might total 100 bucks a week, on a good week). but when the place is packed less of the one on one get done for some reason.

plus on a busy busy night when its SRO the guys at the stage seats tend to be the only ones doing stage tips at all. the rest of the crowd just hangs back and watches.

so far from observation MFC works similarly. up to a certain point (around 500 in room count generally) tips go up. then they taper back off. i guess when theres 1k ppl in a room everyone figures that the model must be getting plenty of tips and just kicks back to enjoy the show

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

so far from observation MFC works similarly. up to a certain point (around 500 in room count generally) tips go up. then they taper back off. i guess when theres 1k ppl in a room everyone figures that the model must be getting plenty of tips and just kicks back to enjoy the show

I've noticed that too. But I've equated it more with conversation. I'm generally more into having a conversation and usually tip more often in rooms where that's possible (where i'm spending more time basically). Up to around the 500 mark it seems the people who do talk regularly can still follow individual conversations with people and there's a more natural flow to it.

Over 500 and conversation quality starts going down. It devolves into shorter comments, generally just quick funny little things you can say. Over 1000 and the chat is going too fast and pretty much dominated by the one sentence people (usually pervy comments). So at that point the people that are more interested in a better conversation or deeper thoughts are pretty much left on the sideline. I quite often just leave when the room counts get that high. So yes there are more people in the room, and that could equate to there being more people capable of the bigger tips. But I think a lot of the regulars who tip day in and day out tend to back off at that point. So there could be a shortage from that side.

For me 100 to 250 people in a room seems ideal. Enough to [hopefully] get the tokens flowing for the model and yet still have a good flow to the chat.

 

[PearlSparkles]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

I get 1-2 new followers a day...n I tweet random stuff, what I do during the day and try to post sexy pictures. This is w/o buying followers

 

[Evvie]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

Very cool!

Okay here is the email I sent to the sweet gal who had 1,000+ people in her chat while
she was so natural and classy earlier today!

...

Hey.
I hope you might have a moment this week to reply to me...
I really like your chat room and your profile.
I noticed it briefly today,
and noticed you have 1,000+ viewers in your chat room, and
gals are brainstorming about how we can all be more effective
at bringing more people to the website in general.
I would like to know if you have any advice, tips, or secrets,
that you would be willing to share? With me or with us at this link...
https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... 95#p371495
If you want to share info with me privately let me know.
If it is okay with you I would like to share your advice with other models
at the forum that I linked to above.
Check out my profile some time
Thank you so much for being a part of MyFreeCams.
Some girls here are all caught up in the competition...
but as a business woman,
I firmly believe,
that all of the girls here are a team,
and if we were all more open about sharing our powerful marketing techniques,
we would all experience a snowball effect of,
extreme success!!!
Love,
Leigha

...

Her model name was On_line.
Some cool models I have talked briefly with in the past are
Kattie_ (who retired after some major success) and xWildThingX and AmberCutie
Very cool chicks!
There have been a couple of others who communicated with me at MFC
over the years, but unfortunately I can not recalled their screen names.
I also spoke to one of those mega tippers once.
I saw this guy tip an unspeakable life changing kind of amount of money in a gals
room.
He basically just said that he saved up his tokens, that he'd taken a liking to her,
and just felt like doing something nice for her,
Gosh, wish that could happen for all of us, like yesterday. But I would settle for
today!!!

Peace!

I don't want to be a debbie downer, but goodness.

I feel you have the idea that there actually are "secrets" to getting that kind of room count... there are not. I also feel like you have the idea that we are bereft of information and resources and the only reason some models do poorly is because they haven't thought to research their game plan first.

I especially take exception to the bolded bit. I may have a lot of cam model friends and spend a lot of my time trying to help models, but we are NOT all on a team. I am not in a sisterhood with all the models on MFC or Streamate, and neither are you. Regardless of what you believe, that is not reality.

I also like how you insinuate that models who work hard (and who are focused on the competition) are all bad because they don't want to share their wages with models who don't do as well.

Also...

"She wasn't breaking any rules,
she wasn't nude,
she wasn't that hot, very natural/normal looking,
she wasn't over the top,
she did not have on makeup,
she was nice.
I'm going to ask her how she got 1,000 in there!
I will report back if she replies to me!!!"

I like how you called a model "not that hot" and then directed her to the forum where you said it... come on now. There are PLENTY of models who are already members of this form who get 1000+ room counts all the time, and who have already shared how they have done it, and that is information you have access too right now. But instead you call another model not hot and then ask her to provide her "secrets" because she must be one of the good guys who doesn't get in to the competition, right? (not to mention LOTS of models on here are REALLY in to the competition on MFC).

 

[Evvie]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

See the way I see this webcam thing is,
and I know some people disagree because they can't get past the competition aspect,
is this:

You have a strip club,
say that club as 10 dancers,
say that the average visitor count is 100 in and out the door per night,
say that the each dancer averages from $400 to $1000 dollars per week, and
sometime one girl will make $3,000 in a week.
WOULDN'T IT BE BETTER IF THE CLUB AVERAGED 1,000 IN AND OUT THE DOOR PER NIGHT,
THE DANCERS ALL AVERAGED FROM $4,000 TO $10,000 PER WEEK, AND
SOMETIMES ONE GIRL WILL MAKE $30,000 IN A WEEK?
AND IF THIS GOAL WAS TOTALLY AND EASILY ACHIEVEABLE BY ALL OF THE GIRLS PUTTING THEIR HEADS
TOGETHER AND SHARING EVERY TECHNIQUE FOR MARKETING, ADVERTISING, AND JUST GENERAL WORK TECHNIQUES,
AND MAXIMIZING THEIR OVERALL EFFECTIVENESS AS A TEAM. A SNOWBALL EFFECT FOR EVERYONE????

The way I see webcamming is,

AN OPEN MARKET WHERE MEN AND WOMEN INDEPENDENTLY WORK FOR THEIR PAYCHECKS. AS IN ALL ASPECTS OF CAPITALISM, SOME PEOPLE WILL DO BETTER BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE TALENTED, WORK HARDER, OR ARE LUCKY. IN MOST SITUATIONS, MODELS ARE NEVER IN DIRECT COMPETITION WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE THERE WAS NEVER AN EQUAL CHANCE OF ONE MAN SPENDING MONEY ON EVERY MODEL. BECAUSE WEBSITE MEMBERS ARE HUMAN BEINGS WITH PERSONALITIES AND STUFF, THEY ARE ACTUALLY NOT LIKELY TO SPEND MONEY ON ANY RANDOM MODEL IN THE FIRST PLACE. TYPICALLY THEY CHOOSE MODELS WHO'S PERSONALITIES AND ACTIONS THEY PREFER.

THERE ARE NO SECRETS IN CAMMING. THERE ARE NO BACK DOORS. EVERY MODEL WHO GETS PAID WELL WORKS HARD. IF YOU WANT TO SPREAD THE LOVE, TELL FAILING MODELS TO WORK HARDER. THEY MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT IS A REQUIREMENT.

WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS INCREASING BUSINESS AND INCOME 100x. THAT'S A PIPE DREAM NOT BASED IN REALITY. DO YOU REALLY THINK MODELS HAVE NOT ALREADY WORKED HARD AND FOUND AMAZING WAYS TO MARKET THEMSELVES? OR DO YOU THINK YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON WHO HAS TRIED TO INCREASE REVENUE ON A CAM SITE? MODELS HERE HAVE DEGREES AND BRAINS AND SHIT, WE HAVE ALREADY SHARED EVERY WORK AND MARKETING TECHNIQUE ON THIS SITE. LIKE LITERALLY, WE HAVE. AND YET SOMEHOW WE HAVE NOT MAGICALLY INCREASED INCOME FOR 35,000 MODELS BY 100x. PRETTY SURE THE WORLD ECONOMY WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT KIND OF FLUX.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

there is only one way to get rich, and it's not by eliminating risk,
it is by managing risk and trying new things, in my opinion.

The only sound advice I've ever heard about getting rich that will work for sure for everyone, every time is 'stop spending more than you make.'

Or as my brother paraphrases it: 'Getting rich isn't about how much you make it's about how little you spend.'

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

The way I see webcamming is,

AN OPEN MARKET WHERE MEN AND WOMEN INDEPENDENTLY WORK FOR THEIR PAYCHECKS. AS IN ALL ASPECTS OF CAPITALISM, SOME PEOPLE WILL DO BETTER BECAUSE THEY ARE MORE TALENTED, WORK HARDER, OR ARE LUCKY. IN MOST SITUATIONS, MODELS ARE NEVER IN DIRECT COMPETITION WITH EACH OTHER BECAUSE THERE WAS NEVER AN EQUAL CHANCE OF ONE MAN SPENDING MONEY ON EVERY MODEL. BECAUSE WEBSITE MEMBERS ARE HUMAN BEINGS WITH PERSONALITIES AND STUFF, THEY ARE ACTUALLY NOT LIKELY TO SPEND MONEY ON ANY RANDOM MODEL IN THE FIRST PLACE. TYPICALLY THEY CHOOSE MODELS WHO'S PERSONALITIES AND ACTIONS THEY PREFER.

THERE ARE NO SECRETS IN CAMMING. THERE ARE NO BACK DOORS. EVERY MODEL WHO GETS PAID WELL WORKS HARD. IF YOU WANT TO SPREAD THE LOVE, TELL FAILING MODELS TO WORK HARDER. THEY MIGHT NOT KNOW THAT IS A REQUIREMENT.

WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT IS INCREASING BUSINESS AND INCOME 100x. THAT'S A PIPE DREAM NOT BASED IN REALITY. DO YOU REALLY THINK MODELS HAVE NOT ALREADY WORKED HARD AND FOUND AMAZING WAYS TO MARKET THEMSELVES? OR DO YOU THINK YOU ARE THE FIRST PERSON WHO HAS TRIED TO INCREASE REVENUE ON A CAM SITE? MODELS HERE HAVE DEGREES AND BRAINS AND SHIT, WE HAVE ALREADY SHARED EVERY WORK AND MARKETING TECHNIQUE ON THIS SITE. LIKE LITERALLY, WE HAVE. AND YET SOMEHOW WE HAVE NOT MAGICALLY INCREASED INCOME FOR 35,000 MODELS BY 100x. PRETTY SURE THE WORLD ECONOMY WOULD NOT ALLOW THAT KIND OF FLUX.

Forget the model concept. This pretty much applies to every profession in life.

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

Poor On_line having to deal with messages like that. I'm disturbed with the way you're going about trying to be more successful. It's really off putting.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

I just wanna have 1,000 plus viewers in my chat room like this chick did on cam this morning!!!!

She wasn't breaking any rules,
she wasn't nude,
she wasn't that hot, very natural/normal looking,
she wasn't over the top,
she did not have on makeup,
she was nice.
I'm going to ask her how she got 1,000 in there!
I will report back if she replies to me!!!

LovelyLeigha.com

Have to disagree on that. I thought she was rather hot. I just put it together which model you wre talking about. It turns out I was actually one of the people in that room this morning, probably while you were in there. Posted a screenshot of her here too. https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=12997&p=371602#p371454

 

[SexySteph]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

and follow those who like models (most importantly follow those who like webcam models).

This will make you look like nothing more than a bot, honestly. I follow 267 people, all models and anyone that asks for a follow back (unless they're a tipping MFC member, which in that case I'd have followed them on my own) gets told to fuck off. It sounds like you're almost buying into that whole pre-teen obsession of twitter as a status symbol. "Follow back, please!" "I have more twitter followers than you! " Twitter is a way to advertise to possible new customers, but more importantly it's a way to keep in touch with people who are already your customers.

Let your twitter followers happen organically. Otherwise it's just a waste of time.

 

[LovelyLeigha]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

Very cool!

Okay here is the email I sent to the sweet gal who had 1,000+ people in her chat while
she was so natural and classy earlier today!

...

Hey.
I hope you might have a moment this week to reply to me...
I really like your chat room and your profile.
I noticed it briefly today,
and noticed you have 1,000+ viewers in your chat room, and
gals are brainstorming about how we can all be more effective
at bringing more people to the website in general.
I would like to know if you have any advice, tips, or secrets,
that you would be willing to share? With me or with us at this link...
https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... 95#p371495
If you want to share info with me privately let me know.
If it is okay with you I would like to share your advice with other models
at the forum that I linked to above.
Check out my profile some time
Thank you so much for being a part of MyFreeCams.
Some girls here are all caught up in the competition...
but as a business woman,
I firmly believe,
that all of the girls here are a team,
and if we were all more open about sharing our powerful marketing techniques,
we would all experience a snowball effect of,
extreme success!!!
Love,
Leigha

...

Her model name was On_line.
Some cool models I have talked briefly with in the past are
Kattie_ (who retired after some major success) and xWildThingX and AmberCutie
Very cool chicks!
There have been a couple of others who communicated with me at MFC
over the years, but unfortunately I can not recalled their screen names.
I also spoke to one of those mega tippers once.
I saw this guy tip an unspeakable life changing kind of amount of money in a gals
room.
He basically just said that he saved up his tokens, that he'd taken a liking to her,
and just felt like doing something nice for her,
Gosh, wish that could happen for all of us, like yesterday. But I would settle for
today!!!

Peace!

I don't want to be a debbie downer, but goodness.

I feel you have the idea that there actually are "secrets" to getting that kind of room count... there are not. I also feel like you have the idea that we are bereft of information and resources and the only reason some models do poorly is because they haven't thought to research their game plan first.

I especially take exception to the bolded bit. I may have a lot of cam model friends and spend a lot of my time trying to help models, but we are NOT all on a team. I am not in a sisterhood with all the models on MFC or Streamate, and neither are you. Regardless of what you believe, that is not reality.

I also like how you insinuate that models who work hard (and who are focused on the competition) are all bad because they don't want to share their wages with models who don't do as well.

Also...

"She wasn't breaking any rules,
she wasn't nude,
she wasn't that hot, very natural/normal looking,
she wasn't over the top,
she did not have on makeup,
she was nice.
I'm going to ask her how she got 1,000 in there!
I will report back if she replies to me!!!"

I like how you called a model "not that hot" and then directed her to the forum where you said it... come on now. There are PLENTY of models who are already members of this form who get 1000+ room counts all the time, and who have already shared how they have done it, and that is information you have access too right now. But instead you call another model not hot and then ask her to provide her "secrets" because she must be one of the good guys who doesn't get in to the competition, right? (not to mention LOTS of models on here are REALLY in to the competition on MFC).

I feel like you might have misunderstood one of my points, and I also failed to explain my point clearly...
When I said she "wasn't that hot, very natural/normal looking" what I should have said was:

She was a beautiful woman, but she did not appear to have on any make up, she not appear to have fake breasts,
she did not appear to have dyed hair or hair extensions, she was very natural looking, she was not "hot" in the sense
of the "perfect blonde" with the "perfect body" and "tons of perfect makeup" and "a perfect tan" and "perfect fake breasts"

I was in no way insulting her.

I was complimenting her.

And I was impressed by what she was accomplishing.

The highest chat room count I have ever had was 700.

And the highest amount I have ever earned on MFC was a little of 40 grand in one year, and that year was way too hard
on me.

If there are lots of great tips and advice on this forum that I have not had time to read yet, you will have to excuse me,
I am new here, and have not had a chance yet to read every comment on every thread that has collected over all the years.

I kinda feel like you are being mean.

I'm a really positive person.

And it's okay if you don't agree with me.

But when you read my posts, you should know that they are coming from a very positive place.

I have always, and will always see myself as part of a team at MyFreeCams.

Maybe it's because I have some background is web developing and business management and I know that
businesses as a whole can achieve great things when everyone works together.

I'm just super positive.

I dunno.

I hope this helps clarify.

It seems like there is just one or two people who really are misunderstanding my words, and I will have to try
harder next time to clarify what I say, so that no one will misinterpret.

Have a wonderful day.

Also, InstantFollowers is still claiming they will get me my 5,000 followers by this Friday.

So, if you or anyone here is curious, you can check my follower count at Twitter.com/LovelyLeighaCom

Personally, I am extremely skeptical.

And I think that Friday is most likely going to be a day when I contact them yet again and say, okay, now you
have to give me the full and complete refund this time.

Who knows.

I'm going to stay positive.

After everything, it would be kind of hilarious if they actually came through!

LIFE HAS A WAY OF GETTING BETTER WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT IT AND IN WAYS THAT YOU NEVER DREAMED
WERE EVEN POSSIBLE THE SAME WAY THAT IS HAS THE CHANCE OF LETTING YOU DOWN.

THERE IS BOTH POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE IN THIS LIFE.

IF YOU TRY FOR THE POSITIVE, IT BECOMES A CONSTANT POSSIBILITY,
IF YOU ARE NEGATIVE, AND DON'T TRY, THAN AT BEST, POSITIVE EVENTS BECOME A PASSING CHANCE AT BEST.

This is what I believe in. Love it or not, it's me. And it's saved my life a few times, as well as my daughter's, so
I don't give up.

Profiles.MyFreeCams.com/LovelyLeighaCom

 

[Evvie]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

I was being mean because I felt your positivity had a large element of obtuseness. Your posts especially had a flair of "everything is broken and I need to be the team leader to fix it," and seemed especially negative towards women who do enjoy competition in their careers. Effectively, it seemed like you have a One True Idea of how camming should be and it seems like everyone who doesn't agree is instantly shallow minded and just focused on earning money instead of being a part of a sisterhood.

I was mean because, again, while I have many model friends, am part of the model community, and spend a lot of time helping models, I do not agree with your vision and I would not want to be a part of it, and I would be upset if your goals reached or touched the websites I work on.

The way you are presenting your concept is not, "ladies who want some extra help/support, let's do this!" but rather, "let's all get our heads together and learn how to earn everyone on MFC XX more money!" I agree that the website I work through should be doing this. If I worked through a studio, they should be working hard to find me more money, too. But I would be severely bent out of shape if I found a group of models I know nothing about was trying to change core concepts of my website just to support their own utopic ideas of what a camsite should be like. I would not be grateful or excited, I would be offended and scared.

We have seen that a small group of models working together can create gestalt advertising for all of them. But so far from you I am not seeing any real ideas of how this is going to work, just a concept that more twitter followers = more mfc spenders, which is something I do not believe has a high correlation, and therefore would not work.

 

[BlueViolet]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

I also am a bit in shock that you said she wasn't hot then directed her here to help you. :shock:

and I know some people disagree because they can't get past the competition aspect...

everything else you've said

 

[NataliaGrey]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

I hope you don't take this the wrong way... but when I see a camgirl (or anyone who claims to be an entertainer) who follows more people than follow her, it reflects badly. I think spammer, bot, desperate, or is solely using the social network for financial gain, and not socializing. There's no way you can pay attention to 1000+ people, do you even look at your feed? It must be so chaotic.

I know it's not quite on topic, but I hope it will help make your twitter experience better, since you're so focused on it. :twocents-02cents:

 

[Katie_Meow]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

I also agree with everyone on the issue of twitter followers. I think the relationship there is largely one-way, where the current MFC members become your followers, and not random followers becoming tipping, long-term members. I'd love to be proven wrong, though.

 

[AnaVictoriaXO]

Re: Twitter Followers Fast = Busy Chat Room = Fast Money ! ?

(Warning, been awake for over 24 hours so excuse any typos and sorry if anything doesn't make sense, lol)

I think you should just forget this teaming up idea, as well as buying followers... For many reasons, a few being:

A) If you want to raise your income, focus your time and efforts on YOU, no one else
B) You cant honestly expect 1,000's of independent models to team up...do you?
C) If you want to be a part of a team I really think you might find a different job more fitting

Regarding buying followers etc...

MFC gives girls TONS of traffic. Its pointless to buy followers to try and do what they're already providing you with. You already pay mfc a percentage to do just that.



A little constructive criticism on your twitter: Your page seems a bit spammy and like youre trying too hard. For example:

*You dont post many pictures of you. Your page is to PROMOTE you, not a ton of random graphics.

*You retweet a lot of pointless mentions to you like "thanks for the follow", "beautiful bb", "skype?", "thanks for the follow send a tit pic for me?" etc and people spamming you with site advertisements. Id unfollow if I saw that nonsense on my feed so much.

*Not sure why you mention @myfreecams in so many tweets, even ones not related to the site at all.

*Posting links to your profile in place of pictures (ie #mirrormonday see pics here *profile link*) If youre so worried about showing your face on twitter, why are you posting links to your profile that has a bunch of pictures of your face? Kind of cancels out "hiding your face"

*Asking for giftcards in your tweets without mentioning incentives.

*Not every tweet needs hashtags. Again, looks spammy.

Those are only a few reasons Id be turned off from following you. You will not gain many followers if thats how your twitter continues to look. :twocents-02cents:

Twitter isnt just to promote, its also there to socialize and for people to get to know you more. Not many of your tweets tell anyone much about you. Show your personality! I feel like even if you buy followers you'll end up losing the majority of them with they way you use the site. Plus, its much more satisfying (and more possible to get tippers) if people follow you because they LIKE you, not because you bought them.