I found this adorably cute and laugh out loud funny. At what age do we start lying? It seems to be a short time, from brutally honest kid observations to lying about the littlest thing. :lol:
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:-D I also laughed when he caught HER in a lie. "It's NOT empty!"
Well... http://www.ted.com/talks/pamela_meyer_h ... _liar.html
She talks about the age we start lying... and about Coco the gorilla, which I found hilariously fascinating.
She talks about the age we start lying... and about Coco the gorilla, which I found hilariously fascinating.
I believe him. I don't think he did it. Future ladies man.
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I find it adorable that he thinks since he didn't eat ALL of them that she wouldn't find out lol.
I love it when parents refer to lying as "telling stories"...
I'm no parent, but doing that makes lying seem like it's not such a bad thing to do. Okay, my random thought insertion is done.
I'm no parent, but doing that makes lying seem like it's not such a bad thing to do. Okay, my random thought insertion is done.
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I feel like this is part of the reason I don't like children. I know its that their brains aren't developed enough yet or something, but he obviously knew he wasn't supposed to eat the sprinkles or he wouldnt have lied about it. So this kid is straight up being dishonest and knows he is. I dunno, the video made me cringe. Maybe its because I was really horribly behaved up until about age 5.
oh gods! here he goes again!
ok, in that video, it is possible ( not guaranteed, just possible) that the child wasnt actually lying. based on brain development only, and not knowing the kid's actual age i can only guestimate. there is a line where perception of reality and time kicks in. before that part of the brain develops it is possible to do something, then be asked about it 5 minutes later and not connect your actions to the question. it is possible that when asked if he ate the sprinkles he really truly did not connect between being asked and having done it. at one point he even reaches up to his face when she says he has them on his face, and touching a spot that doesnt have any, says he doesnt have any. thats not a lie per se. a kid below 4 or 5 is going to have difficulty connecting events in time/space. they could eat the sprinkles, remember the event of eating them, and still not realize that the memory they have is what they are being asked about.
do i think the kid was fibbing? yup. but based on what limited data is available in that specific vid, its still possible that it wasnt really a lie, just not knowing that his actually eating them was what he was being asked about.
again, just talking possiblilities, not for sures here
ok, in that video, it is possible ( not guaranteed, just possible) that the child wasnt actually lying. based on brain development only, and not knowing the kid's actual age i can only guestimate. there is a line where perception of reality and time kicks in. before that part of the brain develops it is possible to do something, then be asked about it 5 minutes later and not connect your actions to the question. it is possible that when asked if he ate the sprinkles he really truly did not connect between being asked and having done it. at one point he even reaches up to his face when she says he has them on his face, and touching a spot that doesnt have any, says he doesnt have any. thats not a lie per se. a kid below 4 or 5 is going to have difficulty connecting events in time/space. they could eat the sprinkles, remember the event of eating them, and still not realize that the memory they have is what they are being asked about.
do i think the kid was fibbing? yup. but based on what limited data is available in that specific vid, its still possible that it wasnt really a lie, just not knowing that his actually eating them was what he was being asked about.
again, just talking possiblilities, not for sures here
The thing that's worse is I've seen male friends of mine doing exactly the same thing. One friend who likes going out drinking and acts like a twat. To his girlfriend "I'm at work" Then all her friends see him out and he comes home steaming drunk "no, I did not drink last night" "No of course I didn't drink last night" I mean why?! haha
It's also like when people get practically caught in the act cheating "No, I didn't do it I swear!"
It's sad that this young boy probably won't be much different in 20 years time. Girls are generally better at lying/covering up their tracks. I know the problem my male friends have with lying is that they don't want to get told off, so they lie, not thinking it through. All they think of is the instant, so they don't think/care that if they owned up at that point they'd get a little bit told off, but if they own up/the person finds out later they'll get a LOT told off, they just let it snowball.
Then again, people are often punished for telling the truth.
The kid's cute though bless him.
Something I've always found about children is most of them don't have much in ways of basic morals. Which is why kids can be extremely nasty to each other. Pretty much everything we know we're taught. Obviously some children genetically have kinder or crueler natures, but most of it is nurture.
It's also like when people get practically caught in the act cheating "No, I didn't do it I swear!"
It's sad that this young boy probably won't be much different in 20 years time. Girls are generally better at lying/covering up their tracks. I know the problem my male friends have with lying is that they don't want to get told off, so they lie, not thinking it through. All they think of is the instant, so they don't think/care that if they owned up at that point they'd get a little bit told off, but if they own up/the person finds out later they'll get a LOT told off, they just let it snowball.
Then again, people are often punished for telling the truth.
The kid's cute though bless him.
Something I've always found about children is most of them don't have much in ways of basic morals. Which is why kids can be extremely nasty to each other. Pretty much everything we know we're taught. Obviously some children genetically have kinder or crueler natures, but most of it is nurture.
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I posted this in another thread sometime ago. Apparently we may have some basic morals programmed into our genes. This is not about lying but is about whether morality is innate or taught. Certainly doesn't close the debate but I found it a very interesting study.
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Yes, I watched that the one time. Here's what it taught me:
we don't like watching people be mean to other people
if we know nothing about the people involved, we like to see wrongdoers punished
if we know that one of the people is similar to us in any way, but the other person is different from us in any way, we will side with the person who is similar
the similarity and difference can be very arbitrary, such as liking the same cereal we do
we don't like watching people be mean to other people
if we know nothing about the people involved, we like to see wrongdoers punished
if we know that one of the people is similar to us in any way, but the other person is different from us in any way, we will side with the person who is similar
the similarity and difference can be very arbitrary, such as liking the same cereal we do
I was really honest as a child, but it's because my mom made a rule that as long as I told the truth, I wouldn't get punished.
"are those drugs in your pocket?"
"yup. And now that I told you the truth you can't ground me"
It wasn't the best system lol
"are those drugs in your pocket?"
"yup. And now that I told you the truth you can't ground me"
It wasn't the best system lol
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It did not occur to me to not tell the truth as a child. I did, however, do my best to make the truth in the best possible light.
One time, my parents caught me playing with stuffed animals in my bed when I was supposed to be sleeping. They asked what I was doing, I told them "trying to fall asleep". I really was. I was using the stuffed animals to make my brain tired. I didn't know those words at the time, so when they questioned me further I explained that I was trying to get tired so I could fall asleep. They put me in the corner for lying. (They thought I was keeping myself up. But I really wasn't- using the stuffed animals let me fall asleep in half an hour to an hour. Not using them, I'd stare at the ceiling for HOURS, fighting dragons in my mind, trying to fall asleep.)
Even now, if I don't do enough... storytelling I guess... I can't fall asleep. Like, I have to write, or read, or play games like Whizz Words. In fact, I should be playing Whizz Words right now, so that I can get to sleep around 3... but it looks like I'll be up until 4 or 5.. x.x
One time, my parents caught me playing with stuffed animals in my bed when I was supposed to be sleeping. They asked what I was doing, I told them "trying to fall asleep". I really was. I was using the stuffed animals to make my brain tired. I didn't know those words at the time, so when they questioned me further I explained that I was trying to get tired so I could fall asleep. They put me in the corner for lying. (They thought I was keeping myself up. But I really wasn't- using the stuffed animals let me fall asleep in half an hour to an hour. Not using them, I'd stare at the ceiling for HOURS, fighting dragons in my mind, trying to fall asleep.)
Even now, if I don't do enough... storytelling I guess... I can't fall asleep. Like, I have to write, or read, or play games like Whizz Words. In fact, I should be playing Whizz Words right now, so that I can get to sleep around 3... but it looks like I'll be up until 4 or 5.. x.x
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not for immediate results.....but your mom sounds like someone who was into parenting for the long term...and being able to trust your kids is a challenging place to start, but yields the best results, imo.....
"doing drugs" is the fear of almost every adult who's involved with kids nowadays, i'm thinkin....and it scares a lot of adults into wearing their ostrich costume....as a parent tho, having that information is imperative to understanding your kid.....
not the way i did it...but it seems to have worked for your mom....assuming you're still talking :whistle:
PlayboyMegan said:Eh we still talk but after a long period of being apart. She's the type of mother who just doesn't have natural maternal instincts. The way she raise me was very unconventional. Although I tuned out okay, I won't be raising my (future) children in the same way.
cool...your mom taught you something :mrgreen:
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