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I don't know if it is annoying so much, as just a really low level to stoop to, but models who enter another model's room and PM/mail a bunch of the users they have never talked to before trying to steal them away to their rooms. :naughty: I just put them on ignore and hidden to insure I never go in their room.


In contrast, if I actually chat with someone, I'm good with messages from them whenever. Its nice when the majority of messages aren't the kind from above, and are from models or other users you converse with. So often hear models say something along the lines of, "I saw you were online and thought about messaging you, but I didn't want to bother you." Chances are you're not going to bother them unless you do it really obsessively. :whistle:
 
Misono said:
From my Twitter feed tonight:

If we can gather 8k offline in the next hour I will get an early night

So, let me get this straight. You want people to give you 8000 tokens not to log on? I don't see how that'll be successful...

Maybe she meant to type on, to give the benefit of the doubt (even though the A and O are on opposite sides of the keyboard...).

But, I too have seen Twitter posts from models saying they'd like to make their daily goal without having to log in so they can take the day/night off. Sometimes it's from models who otherwise might have to try to do two shifts, sometimes it's not.

If stuff is offered for the offline tips, then I don't mind as much when I see it. If it's just sounding like it is saying 'please offline tip me so I don't have to work today' then I get annoyed when I see it.
 
ComicOzzie said:
What I am finding more and more annoying are the models who have a verbal conversation with someone who is PMing them. It is very confusing to hear just her side of the conversation. :?

Haha, I'm totally guilty of this. :shifty: I usually do it because I can't talk and type at the same time, so I get quiet when I type and it kills the room vibe. Then again, if it's more than just a couple questions, I start to ignore them because it's distracting me from the room. I can see how a decent-length conversation would be confusing. Especially if it leads to them neglecting their room in favor of PMs.
 
UncleThursday said:
Misono said:
From my Twitter feed tonight:

If we can gather 8k offline in the next hour I will get an early night

So, let me get this straight. You want people to give you 8000 tokens not to log on? I don't see how that'll be successful...

Maybe she meant to type on, to give the benefit of the doubt (even though the A and O are on opposite sides of the keyboard...).

But, I too have seen Twitter posts from models saying they'd like to make their daily goal without having to log in so they can take the day/night off. Sometimes it's from models who otherwise might have to try to do two shifts, sometimes it's not.

If stuff is offered for the offline tips, then I don't mind as much when I see it. If it's just sounding like it is saying 'please offline tip me so I don't have to work today' then I get annoyed when I see it.

Being a UK model, "getting an early night" is a common phrase that I'm not sure is used as much elsewhere in the world. Tends to mean they want to sleep.

Follow up tweets were "No offline love? Guess I'll have to log on" so I don't think it was a typo.
 
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CharlotteLace said:
ComicOzzie said:
What I am finding more and more annoying are the models who have a verbal conversation with someone who is PMing them. It is very confusing to hear just her side of the conversation. :?

Haha, I'm totally guilty of this. :shifty: I usually do it because I can't talk and type at the same time, so I get quiet when I type and it kills the room vibe. Then again, if it's more than just a couple questions, I start to ignore them because it's distracting me from the room. I can see how a decent-length conversation would be confusing. Especially if it leads to them neglecting their room in favor of PMs.
I am too, but I try it this way:
"I don't feel like typing in PM but someone just brought up something interesting that I'd like to respond here, hope you don't mind! (I never say who it was) They asked about blah blah blah and <insert response here>. As usual, I don't really use the PM feature while I'm on cam since it's too distracting and I'm rubbish at multitasking in that way, I'm sure nobody here would mind if you brought up <topic of PM> in the public room!"
 
When models charge exorbitant amounts for videos. I understand part of the thought process for high costing videos... that if someone pays a large amount, they're going to be less willing to post it on tube sites or torrent it out. But some models take it to extremes.

I know Skye_Evans has a BJ video out there and she charges a lot for it (I think 1500 or so tokens). And look, Skye's hot... but members spending $150+ on a single video is being a bit extreme. But, it works in the not having shared department from what I know.

I thought Skye's was probably the most expensive I would ever hear of... until this week. A model posted on her Twitter she was making a BJ video. And it was 6000 tokens. Yes, six-thousand. That's not even thinking within the same universe as the real world.

I don't care how hot a model is, or how hot she thinks she is, no single video is worth members spending at least $600 to get (remember, not everyone has the $600 package or even the $300 one). The only people who would even consider spending that much on a single video are people who either have way too much money on their hands to begin with or members who think they are totally in love with the model.

It's going to be maybe 20 minutes? Maybe? And that's worth someone spending $600 on? For $600 you can get access to 20 porn sites with hundreds of videos each, offering way more content than a single blowjob video.

If models don't want their boy/girl sex vids spread around the intartubez and want to charge prices that would theoretically help deter that, fine. But they should at least try to think in the realm of reality when thinking of the prices. 6k tokens for a single BJ video isn't even in the realm of ludicrous... it's way beyond that.
 
Saying 'she charges too much for videos' is pretty rude. You may as well say 'you as a person aren't worth that, lower your prices to match what I think you deserve'

I've had members say that to me in the past and they haven't received pleasant responses.
 
UncleThursday said:
When models charge exorbitant amounts for videos. I understand part of the thought process for high costing videos... that if someone pays a large amount, they're going to be less willing to post it on tube sites or torrent it out. But some models take it to extremes.

I know Skye_Evans has a BJ video out there and she charges a lot for it (I think 1500 or so tokens). And look, Skye's hot... but members spending $150+ on a single video is being a bit extreme. But, it works in the not having shared department from what I know.

I thought Skye's was probably the most expensive I would ever hear of... until this week. A model posted on her Twitter she was making a BJ video. And it was 6000 tokens. Yes, six-thousand. That's not even thinking within the same universe as the real world.

I don't care how hot a model is, or how hot she thinks she is, no single video is worth members spending at least $600 to get (remember, not everyone has the $600 package or even the $300 one). The only people who would even consider spending that much on a single video are people who either have way too much money on their hands to begin with or members who think they are totally in love with the model.

It's going to be maybe 20 minutes? Maybe? And that's worth someone spending $600 on? For $600 you can get access to 20 porn sites with hundreds of videos each, offering way more content than a single blowjob video.

If models don't want their boy/girl sex vids spread around the intartubez and want to charge prices that would theoretically help deter that, fine. But they should at least try to think in the realm of reality when thinking of the prices. 6k tokens for a single BJ video isn't even in the realm of ludicrous... it's way beyond that.


The best tactic a model can probably employ to limit exposure, other than not selling videos, is one SexySteph for example has done with some of her videos. Requiring a large tip to join a special fan group first, before people even get the opportunity to purchase some of the videos.

Cost will limit how many people will buy a video. Lowering the chances there could be someone among the purchasers who will share it. Won't stop someone who wants to share it, just because they paid more for it though. File sharing is done for profit a lot of places. Wish more people would get into the legal affiliate side of sharing porn meant to be shared. But there will inevitably be people who buy a camgirl's videos using porn pirating revenue, then share it to help recoup the cost.

Generally why I encourage models to do DMCA notices, even if they don't care if a video of theirs is out on the Internet. Killing off links will help slow the revenue of a porn pirate, and help limit how many other videos they purchase with it in the future.
 
UncleThursday said:
When models charge exorbitant amounts for videos. I understand part of the thought process for high costing videos... that if someone pays a large amount, they're going to be less willing to post it on tube sites or torrent it out. But some models take it to extremes.

I know Skye_Evans has a BJ video out there and she charges a lot for it (I think 1500 or so tokens). And look, Skye's hot... but members spending $150+ on a single video is being a bit extreme. But, it works in the not having shared department from what I know.

I thought Skye's was probably the most expensive I would ever hear of... until this week. A model posted on her Twitter she was making a BJ video. And it was 6000 tokens. Yes, six-thousand. That's not even thinking within the same universe as the real world.

I don't care how hot a model is, or how hot she thinks she is, no single video is worth members spending at least $600 to get (remember, not everyone has the $600 package or even the $300 one). The only people who would even consider spending that much on a single video are people who either have way too much money on their hands to begin with or members who think they are totally in love with the model.

It's going to be maybe 20 minutes? Maybe? And that's worth someone spending $600 on? For $600 you can get access to 20 porn sites with hundreds of videos each, offering way more content than a single blowjob video.

If models don't want their boy/girl sex vids spread around the intartubez and want to charge prices that would theoretically help deter that, fine. But they should at least try to think in the realm of reality when thinking of the prices. 6k tokens for a single BJ video isn't even in the realm of ludicrous... it's way beyond that.

Or ..she could be marketing exclusivity.
Many people are attracted to high priced items with an exclusive feel. Meaning that they feel special, unique and like the high purchase price gives the item a status, or quality level they would not feel buying something at a regular price.


It might not appeal to you *personally* but you must understand that this is a 'hot button' that people use to sell certain highly priced products right?

I have to be honest I don't understand how this could annoy you.
Worst case, she doesn't sell any of this video.


You also have no idea what could be going on in the background. I once had a trusted regular offer me 10,000 tokens for a boygirl anal video.
But i digress.
 
goldenaye666 said:
UncleThursday said:
When models charge exorbitant amounts for videos. I understand part of the thought process for high costing videos... that if someone pays a large amount, they're going to be less willing to post it on tube sites or torrent it out. But some models take it to extremes.

I know Skye_Evans has a BJ video out there and she charges a lot for it (I think 1500 or so tokens). And look, Skye's hot... but members spending $150+ on a single video is being a bit extreme. But, it works in the not having shared department from what I know.

I thought Skye's was probably the most expensive I would ever hear of... until this week. A model posted on her Twitter she was making a BJ video. And it was 6000 tokens. Yes, six-thousand. That's not even thinking within the same universe as the real world.

I don't care how hot a model is, or how hot she thinks she is, no single video is worth members spending at least $600 to get (remember, not everyone has the $600 package or even the $300 one). The only people who would even consider spending that much on a single video are people who either have way too much money on their hands to begin with or members who think they are totally in love with the model.

It's going to be maybe 20 minutes? Maybe? And that's worth someone spending $600 on? For $600 you can get access to 20 porn sites with hundreds of videos each, offering way more content than a single blowjob video.

If models don't want their boy/girl sex vids spread around the intartubez and want to charge prices that would theoretically help deter that, fine. But they should at least try to think in the realm of reality when thinking of the prices. 6k tokens for a single BJ video isn't even in the realm of ludicrous... it's way beyond that.


The best tactic a model can probably employ to limit exposure, other than not selling videos, is one SexySteph for example has done with some of her videos. Requiring a large tip to join a special fan group first, before people even get the opportunity to purchase some of the videos.

Cost will limit how many people will buy a video. Lowering the chances there could be someone among the purchasers who will share it. Won't stop someone who wants to share it, just because they paid more for it though. File sharing is done for profit a lot of places. Wish more people would get into the legal affiliate side of sharing porn meant to be shared. But there will inevitably be people who buy a camgirl's videos using porn pirating revenue, then share it to help recoup the cost.

Generally why I encourage models to do DMCA notices, even if they don't care if a video of theirs is out on the Internet. Killing off links will help slow the revenue of a porn pirate, and help limit how many other videos they purchase with it in the future.

I actually got rid of the club requirement. If anyone's interested in my videos... :shifty:

But yeah, the club option is the best for girls that want to limit exposure. And (to stay on topic) is far less annoying than 6000 token videos. :D
 
Miss_Lollipop said:
UncleThursday said:
When models charge exorbitant amounts for videos. I understand part of the thought process for high costing videos... that if someone pays a large amount, they're going to be less willing to post it on tube sites or torrent it out. But some models take it to extremes.

I know Skye_Evans has a BJ video out there and she charges a lot for it (I think 1500 or so tokens). And look, Skye's hot... but members spending $150+ on a single video is being a bit extreme. But, it works in the not having shared department from what I know.

I thought Skye's was probably the most expensive I would ever hear of... until this week. A model posted on her Twitter she was making a BJ video. And it was 6000 tokens. Yes, six-thousand. That's not even thinking within the same universe as the real world.

I don't care how hot a model is, or how hot she thinks she is, no single video is worth members spending at least $600 to get (remember, not everyone has the $600 package or even the $300 one). The only people who would even consider spending that much on a single video are people who either have way too much money on their hands to begin with or members who think they are totally in love with the model.

It's going to be maybe 20 minutes? Maybe? And that's worth someone spending $600 on? For $600 you can get access to 20 porn sites with hundreds of videos each, offering way more content than a single blowjob video.

If models don't want their boy/girl sex vids spread around the intartubez and want to charge prices that would theoretically help deter that, fine. But they should at least try to think in the realm of reality when thinking of the prices. 6k tokens for a single BJ video isn't even in the realm of ludicrous... it's way beyond that.

Or ..she could be marketing exclusivity.
Many people are attracted to high priced items with an exclusive feel. Meaning that they feel special, unique and like the high purchase price gives the item a status, or quality level they would not feel buying something at a regular price.


It might not appeal to you *personally* but you must understand that this is a 'hot button' that people use to sell certain highly priced products right?

I have to be honest I don't understand how this could annoy you.
Worst case, she doesn't sell any of this video.


You also have no idea what could be going on in the background. I once had a trusted regular offer me 10,000 tokens for a boygirl anal video.
But i digress.

This. While it might not interest you, there are many people who want the rare, exclusive items and feel good spending that amount. Plus, many of those people will most likely spend it on their favorite model anyway, (enjoy dropping large tips) and it's not necessarily about getting that rare video (only about supporting their favorite girl). It doesn't mean a model is out of this world in their thought process or full of themselves... they are just catering to a particular kind of person or giving back to a person who would already tip them big. I don't know why this annoys you either...?
 
Miss_Lollipop said:
Or ..she could be marketing exclusivity.
Many people are attracted to high priced items with an exclusive feel. Meaning that they feel special, unique and like the high purchase price gives the item a status, or quality level they would not feel buying something at a regular price.


It might not appeal to you *personally* but you must understand that this is a 'hot button' that people use to sell certain highly priced products right?

I have to be honest I don't understand how this could annoy you.
Worst case, she doesn't sell any of this video.


You also have no idea what could be going on in the background. I once had a trusted regular offer me 10,000 tokens for a boygirl anal video.
But i digress.

OK, let's say it's an exclusivity thing. That she wants her high tippers to get it. So why not market directly to the high tippers she already has? I'm fairly certain most models know who their high tippers are; right?

Aston Martin, Lamborghini, Sachs 5th Ave., yacht builders, private jet companies, etc. don't advertise on normal TV, radio or magazines and newspapers. Why? Because they cater to exclusive clientele (IE the rich). There's no point in advertising to the non-rich, because there's no way in fuck they can afford their products.

So, why advertise an expensive product (the video in this case) in such a way that it goes out to everyone, and not just the desired clientele? The majority can't or won't spend the money for such a product. It's advertising to the wrong people.

If it's an exclusive type thing, then market directly to those who would be interested in it and would be willing to pay for it. Twitter DM or MFC mail the high tippers about the video. Sure, Twitter is basically free advertising, so its not like she paid to put the ad out there or anything... but it's still advertising an expensive product to people who most likely wouldn't be able to afford it to begin with. It's like Lamborghini putting an ad for one of their cars that starts at $100k on network TV. It's advertising to the exact opposite clientele that they would want.

As for the custom video a member came to you about, that was something the member offered, not something you put out there in the hopes of others deciding it's a good deal. That's a completely different situation, because they offered it to you; you didn't put it out there in the hopes people would buy it.
 
I guess I don't really see a problem with advertising something that not everyone can afford or even want. I mean, should John-Deere find some way to advertise only to farmers? If I see a video for sale that's out of my price range I just move on and don't give it a second thought.
 
I find it really awkward if models were to DM guys saying, "Hey, I have this video and it's 6,000 tokens." If a member happens to see it on a model's profile and it peeks their interest, that's one thing... especially if they were planning to tip her big in the first place and it's an added bonus. However, directly advertising feels impersonal to me.

I'm not a huge corporation who doesn't give a shit about the people I meet online. If they want to spend money on me, great but it's not an obligation and I'm by no means going to make them feel like they HAVE to drop 6,000 tokens on me (directly contacting them may make them feel like they should and that's not right IMHO). If they decide to do it, I'll definitely thank them properly and that might mean a special video.

I don't see why this upsetting people. The same could be said for the person who works a minimum wage job, has 4 children to support, yada yada yada. 200-500 tokens for a video might be far out of their price range but models will continue to advertise to everyone on MyFreeCams. Plus, there are plenty of times where someone I've never meant was so sweet and dropped thousands out of nowhere, completely blowing my mind. Should I have not advertised those things because it didn't appeal to the masses?
 
Ok so re: the 10,000 thing..

I don't offer boygirl content. Ever.
So if i was to do a 10,000tk b/g anal video.. i would charge around 5000tks for it. Why? cos If i only sell one copy im 100% ok with that.


As for advertising... im with aedan.. it would be *really* awkward to message people privately.. Id much rather make a public post somewhere where they will see it and let them decide if its for them or not.




Regardless of marketing pros/cons..(i don't know if here's really the place to debate all that)

I guess what I'm trying to say is: while i respect that an annoyance is a feeling - and everyone is entitled to feelings, the actual arguments about it aren't logical and I hope people can see that.

It should not logically annoy anyone when a model makes a marketing or pricing decision.
it might amuse you slightly.. confuse you..

It could be a really shitty decision.
It could be a really good one.
It might be way out of your price range...

How does it affect you unless you feel a misguided sense of entitlement to see her content for a cheaper price?

You just..shrug your shoulders and go "huh. lol. thats weird. Not my bag. Moving on.."
 
I don't get it. The thread is about what you find annoying that models do. UT comes out here talking about how he finds videos annoying when they cost too much. Why does there need to be some elaborate reasoning behind why dude thinks a video costs too much? He just thinks it does. That's that. I come across videos all the time that I thought looked cool, and they cost too much. I find that annoying. That's that.
 
DuoShi said:
I don't get it. The thread is about what you find annoying that models do. UT comes out here talking about how he finds videos annoying when they cost too much. Why does there need to be some elaborate reasoning behind why dude thinks a video costs too much? He just thinks it does. That's that. I come across videos all the time that I thought looked cool, and they cost too much. I find that annoying. That's that.

All opinions must be justified with pie charts. It's a new rule I invented and oh God does it save time.
 
DuoShi said:
I don't get it. The thread is about what you find annoying that models do. UT comes out here talking about how he finds videos annoying when they cost too much. Why does there need to be some elaborate reasoning behind why dude thinks a video costs too much? He just thinks it does. That's that. I come across videos all the time that I thought looked cool, and they cost too much. I find that annoying. That's that.

I guess I just am really confused by it and thought maybe he didn't understand that there might be reasons behind it. Feelings are feelings.. but that does not mean we should not challenge negative ones with a solid dose of logic.
 
Miss_Lollipop said:
DuoShi said:
I don't get it. The thread is about what you find annoying that models do. UT comes out here talking about how he finds videos annoying when they cost too much. Why does there need to be some elaborate reasoning behind why dude thinks a video costs too much? He just thinks it does. That's that. I come across videos all the time that I thought looked cool, and they cost too much. I find that annoying. That's that.

I guess I just am really confused by it and thought maybe he didn't understand that there might be reasons behind it. Feelings are feelings.. but that does not mean we should not challenge negative ones with a solid dose of logic.

I'll say this one last thing, then the thread can get itself back on topic. I'm all for a good challenge of negative feelings with logic, when it's needed. I don't think this thread is the place for it though. I view this thread as, at least partially, a venting spot. This thread is about what models do to annoy you, essentially. Being annoyed is a negative emotion from the jump, so this whole thread is a bunch of negative emotions. Now, if we start challengin' this post or that post, people ain't gonna post certain on-topic stuff in here. That would be shame.

Now, UT isn't gonna stop postin' just because he was challenged, but a newer poster might stop postin'. If he/she wasn't a douchenozzle, that would suck. Right? That's all I'm sayin'. We don't need to challenge everything. Imma leave it at that; otherwise, Imma keep checkin' this thread for responses. :lol:
 
DuoShi said:
I'll say this one last thing, then the thread can get itself back on topic. I'm all for a good challenge of negative feelings with logic, when it's needed. I don't think this thread is the place for it though.

Maybe you're right. Sorry :( I really can't seem to come to this thread without getting weirded out/annoyed/paranoid/confused.. so I think i should just stay out of it. I said that a few months ago then somehow ended up back in here.

**by that same argument though, a new model could arrive in here and read this thread and be scared to do just about anything. So .. without invalidating *feelings* i don't know that posting something saying that there are legit reasons models do this.. is a bad thing?
 
Actually having an expensive video maybe good marketing for a couple of reasons. First, it is very common for big tippers to have bought all a models content, so the 6,000 this is just an excuse to tip.
The guy may have had planned on tipping this much or perhaps he decide to buy the $600 package instead of $300 package just to get the video.

It also serves as anchor price. You see this is everything from Neiman Marcus with their $500,000 gift suggestions to 7-11. In 7-11 you'll see small 12 oz $.59 Medium 16 oz .$69 and Large 24 oz .89 and then Big Gulp 44 Oz. $1.19. 7-11 is not really trying to sell a ton of Big Gulps what they really are trying to do is convince you to pay $.89 to buy a large instead of a medium soda @$.69. Because having 44 Oz drink for $1.19 makes it easier to convince yourself that you need a 24 oz drink.

I think this can work for models to.
I know one popular models who has really good video bundle deals 10-20 high quality videos (few recordings) for 200-300 tokens. She also has a few b/j videos that are typical 300-500 tokens each, and finally she has one B/G sex video that is 3,000 tokens. I have been tempted to buy her b/j videos because they suddenly seem affordable.

One comment I would disagree with that pricing your videos high makes it less likely to be uploaded on pirate sites. I see very few videos priced under 100 tokens on pirate sites and plenty of the 300-500 token level. In fact I saw one of the models b/j videos but none of her other ones including lots of girl girl action.
 
Miss_Lollipop said:
DuoShi said:
I'll say this one last thing, then the thread can get itself back on topic. I'm all for a good challenge of negative feelings with logic, when it's needed. I don't think this thread is the place for it though.

Maybe you're right. Sorry :( I really can't seem to come to this thread without getting weirded out/annoyed/paranoid/confused.. so I think i should just stay out of it. I said that a few months ago then somehow ended up back in here.

**by that same argument though, a new model could arrive in here and read this thread and be scared to do just about anything. So .. without invalidating *feelings* i don't know that posting something saying that there are legit reasons models do this.. is a bad thing?
I don't think anything is "needed" with regard to entertaining topics...but challenging each other adds to the fun...as long as we're just mildly poking one another. And sometimes we do "feel" something that's not that big a deal...when I do that, I would like to be told--even if it burns a bit momentarily. I mean otherwise, this thread just becomes a big whine festival with no one ever sharing in conversation. And if we don't agree with a particular whine, it's silly to just agree or remain silent. That's what discussion is...sharing how we look at the same things...even if it's just entertaining discussion.
 
DuoShi said:
Miss_Lollipop said:
DuoShi said:
I don't get it. The thread is about what you find annoying that models do. UT comes out here talking about how he finds videos annoying when they cost too much. Why does there need to be some elaborate reasoning behind why dude thinks a video costs too much? He just thinks it does. That's that. I come across videos all the time that I thought looked cool, and they cost too much. I find that annoying. That's that.

I guess I just am really confused by it and thought maybe he didn't understand that there might be reasons behind it. Feelings are feelings.. but that does not mean we should not challenge negative ones with a solid dose of logic.

I'll say this one last thing, then the thread can get itself back on topic. I'm all for a good challenge of negative feelings with logic, when it's needed. I don't think this thread is the place for it though. I view this thread as, at least partially, a venting spot. This thread is about what models do to annoy you, essentially. Being annoyed is a negative emotion from the jump, so this whole thread is a bunch of negative emotions. Now, if we start challengin' this post or that post, people ain't gonna post certain on-topic stuff in here. That would be shame.

Now, UT isn't gonna stop postin' just because he was challenged, but a newer poster might stop postin'. If he/she wasn't a douchenozzle, that would suck. Right? That's all I'm sayin'. We don't need to challenge everything. Imma leave it at that; otherwise, Imma keep checkin' this thread for responses. :lol:

LEMME ARGUE YOUR FACE OFF, MIKE. GOSH. :crybaby: :lol:
 
AedanRayne said:
DuoShi said:
Miss_Lollipop said:
DuoShi said:
I don't get it. The thread is about what you find annoying that models do. UT comes out here talking about how he finds videos annoying when they cost too much. Why does there need to be some elaborate reasoning behind why dude thinks a video costs too much? He just thinks it does. That's that. I come across videos all the time that I thought looked cool, and they cost too much. I find that annoying. That's that.

I guess I just am really confused by it and thought maybe he didn't understand that there might be reasons behind it. Feelings are feelings.. but that does not mean we should not challenge negative ones with a solid dose of logic.

I'll say this one last thing, then the thread can get itself back on topic. I'm all for a good challenge of negative feelings with logic, when it's needed. I don't think this thread is the place for it though. I view this thread as, at least partially, a venting spot. This thread is about what models do to annoy you, essentially. Being annoyed is a negative emotion from the jump, so this whole thread is a bunch of negative emotions. Now, if we start challengin' this post or that post, people ain't gonna post certain on-topic stuff in here. That would be shame.

Now, UT isn't gonna stop postin' just because he was challenged, but a newer poster might stop postin'. If he/she wasn't a douchenozzle, that would suck. Right? That's all I'm sayin'. We don't need to challenge everything. Imma leave it at that; otherwise, Imma keep checkin' this thread for responses. :lol:

LEMME ARGUE YOUR FACE OFF, MIKE. GOSH. :crybaby: :lol:

You can argue my face off all you want, beebee.
 
Models snorting, or pretending they're snorting, cocaine in privates. It's kind of fucked up but understandable that there is a market for that sort of thing but I think it would be better if that was done in a Skype call and not on MFC feed.
 
I'm going to say just a bit about what was just discussed (well, just before Rodry's post), and then I'll mention my on-topic thing: It's not at all surprising (and not a problem usually) that what some people find annoying, others might find enjoyable, necessary, or just nothing to be bothered by. For most of these things, there's not a right and wrong; there are just various opinions/feelings. On the threads, where models talk about annoying things members do, lots of the examples are the usual creeps, trolls, and idiots, doing what they do, and yes, I agree those things are annoying. For some of the other things, sometimes I disagree and think they're complaining about someone doing something perfectly reasonable. I usually won't argue those unless I think my head is going to explode, though. I just take it as information - it's something some models are bothered by and I'll bear it in mind when in a cam room. I won't lengthen the post with examples, but I can name some if someone doesn't know what I mean.

Anyway, to the gripemobile!

It's seems to me that fetish things are turning up in a ton of model rooms. Now, I realize many models and members enjoy that stuff, and I'm not suggesting nobody should do it. I'm just a "vanilla," and a lot of those things make me uncomfortable. Since one of my favorites has moved in that direction, I've tried to get used to it, but I'm afraid it's just not for me. Unfortunately (for me), it seems like in almost every room (probably an exaggeration, but seriously, lots of them) there are at least some of: paddles, floggers, ball gags, cat ears, butt plugs with tails on them, nipple clamps, etc. I understand that there are models who specialize in certain types of things, and that's cool. It just seems like it's become a huge fad, and now everyone thinks it's what members want to see. I don't recall this being very common when I first became a member, and I probably browsed models more then than I do now. I just wanted to put it out there that some of us really don't want to see it, so if you're a model thinking about adding some kink because it's popular, just be aware that there are also some guys who will appreciate it if you don't.
 
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