Why do you sell photos/videos?

[Anonymous]

So two pages later, do you understand now why models sell photos/videos?

 

[JerryBoBerry]

So two pages later, do you understand now why models sell photos/videos?

Cause there's a lot of people REALLY in love with boobies and other lady bits with money to spend.

(all posts condensed into one sentence, Your Welcome!)

 

[AdmnMatt]

So two pages later, do you understand now why models sell photos/videos?

) I think we both know that's it's expanded into a much broader topic of conversation now, but to answer your question, I certainly do

 

[LadyLuna]

I should like to say...

While the passive income from selling videos through my clips4sale store and through my skinvideo profile is not a lot at all, many times it has been the little bit that I needed.

Example: I spent all my money on the bills two days ago and find out that my partner doesn't have enough for the milk and bread that ran out unexpectedly just this morning. oh look! A $16.75 check from Skinvideo! *cashes the check and buys milk, bread, and some applesauce cause I need more fruit in my life*

Example 2: I didn't quite make my goals, and am sweating over how I'll pay the electric bill this month when I suddenly remember that I made $90 last month on Clips4Sale and that check should be arriving any day now. Problem solved!

They aren't a huge part of my income, but they are there when I really need them. And sometimes when I don't. Many times, that little extra is the only extra money I have to treat myself to something. Or it comes just in time to save me from a late fee on a bill. Or just in time to keep me from going insane because I haven't been able to restock my rings for my chain mail project and I really want to work on it. Or just in time for me to buy that one thing that I wanted so I could do that one show that I'm really excited about. (Once, I used it to buy the Star Trek t-shirt Dress from Think Geek, the blue one. I was smiley and excited for a month when that thing came in! Best month that year!)

So that's another reason. It's that little extra to make life bearable, or that just enough to keep me where I need to be.

 

[southsamurai]

barely on topic here, but ill try to stay within bounds (haha, really, south?)

i get that there are risks involved in any adult entertainment work. what bothers me is WHY those risks are there. i mean back when i was bouncing at topless bars some of the ladies talked about it affecting their later life and the consensus was that with the lighting and environment even if someone recognized them outside of the club they could just shrug it off and play the indignant card. not possible with digital media.
security is an issue for anyone in a public job so im going to ignore that risk as off topic and head back into the fray of sex work.adult entertainment "haunting" people in later life. (see! i did it for once! im so proud of myself!. wait, the parenthetical ruined it. oh well)

maybe i'm just a weird goomer but wtf is the big deal really? people masturbate, they have sex, they get naked. all the time. im mostly naked right now. we were all frakking well born naked. how is it an issue that the naked (or nekkid) person got paid for showing it? because that is the only difference between me in the shower and me in the shower on cam. (ok, so no one pays me to shower naked on cam, but still)

these things that are soooo bloody bad that if someone does them it precludes them from teaching jobs or public office are things that everyone does anyway, just not where others can see them. how bout we collectively get our asses out of the 19th century and grow up a little as a species? is it because i was raised by hippies? is that why i look at adult work as just another job instead of some amoral abyss from which one can never return?
my kids ever come home and say "daddy guess what? my teacher used to wiggle her butt naked on the internet!" my answer would be "so?"

some random goombah runs for president and it comes out that they used to cam, or did a porno or twenty my response is still the same. so what? is that any determination of how able they are to perform their new job? nope. unless fucking the citizens is counted, in which case they may be more qualified than the standard politician.

yeah, yeah i know im beyond liberal into libertine territory, but sheesh. it just irritates the frak out of me that it is even an issue at all.
you know what i consider an automatic no for teaching and the like? beating kids, assault, dealing addictive substances. those things actually hurt others. heck, some of the smarmy, backwards close minded idiots i had to put up with as teachers i would gladly trade for an ex prostitute who had some real experience with hard times and danger. that is who i would prefer over some sunday school going, asprin between the knees prude that wouldnt have the sense or experience to recognize the signs that a kid is in trouble and the courage to help them.

yeah. rantish i know, sorry for that, but sometimes the ignorance of the human race annoys me

 

[PlayboyMegan]

barely on topic here, but ill try to stay within bounds (haha, really, south?)

i get that there are risks involved in any adult entertainment work. what bothers me is WHY those risks are there. i mean back when i was bouncing at topless bars some of the ladies talked about it affecting their later life and the consensus was that with the lighting and environment even if someone recognized them outside of the club they could just shrug it off and play the indignant card. not possible with digital media.
security is an issue for anyone in a public job so im going to ignore that risk as off topic and head back into the fray of sex work.adult entertainment "haunting" people in later life. (see! i did it for once! im so proud of myself!. wait, the parenthetical ruined it. oh well)

maybe i'm just a weird goomer but wtf is the big deal really? people masturbate, they have sex, they get naked. all the time. im mostly naked right now. we were all frakking well born naked. how is it an issue that the naked (or nekkid) person got paid for showing it? because that is the only difference between me in the shower and me in the shower on cam. (ok, so no one pays me to shower naked on cam, but still)

these things that are soooo bloody bad that if someone does them it precludes them from teaching jobs or public office are things that everyone does anyway, just not where others can see them. how bout we collectively get our asses out of the 19th century and grow up a little as a species? is it because i was raised by hippies? is that why i look at adult work as just another job instead of some amoral abyss from which one can never return?
my kids ever come home and say "daddy guess what? my teacher used to wiggle her butt naked on the internet!" my answer would be "so?"

some random goombah runs for president and it comes out that they used to cam, or did a porno or twenty my response is still the same. so what? is that any determination of how able they are to perform their new job? nope. unless fucking the citizens is counted, in which case they may be more qualified than the standard politician.

yeah, yeah i know im beyond liberal into libertine territory, but sheesh. it just irritates the frak out of me that it is even an issue at all.
you know what i consider an automatic no for teaching and the like? beating kids, assault, dealing addictive substances. those things actually hurt others. heck, some of the smarmy, backwards close minded idiots i had to put up with as teachers i would gladly trade for an ex prostitute who had some real experience with hard times and danger. that is who i would prefer over some sunday school going, asprin between the knees prude that wouldnt have the sense or experience to recognize the signs that a kid is in trouble and the courage to help them.

yeah. rantish i know, sorry for that, but sometimes the ignorance of the human race annoys me

I'm going to answer your question although I don't necessarily agree with people not excepting sex work.
1. Religion.
2. The stereotypes of sex workers doing drugs, having STD's, and no self-respect.

I personally believe the sex worker stereotype is real. BUT, IMO, stereotypes just mean over half the people in that "group" do something or act a certain way. I do believe over half the sex workers are into drugs, drink compulsively, endanger their safety with STD's, etc. But I do not believe all sex workers are like this. Just watch a few videos on efukt You'll see what I mean. This forum does not attract druggies who want to be top cam models. It attracts intelligent, business minded women looking to better themselves. So we don't get the ugly view of sex workers on this forum, but they are out there! And unfortunately, I believe there are more "bad" examples of sex workers than good, so that's how we are portrayed as a whole.

Edit: I know I totally just derailed this thread, but I think it was pretty much over, anyways.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I'll second Megans post big time.

Now camgirl may get more than their fair share of unsolicited advice, but I think zealous obsessive nature of fans (which is short for fanatics) of computer games and sports teams, rivals the suggestions received by cam girls.
What folks may not know is the reactions behind the scenes, by the people who get these mountain of suggestions. Front line customer reps, the TV shows writers, or the CEO. all engage in plenty of eye-rolling, mocking, and head shaking at how stupid/arrogant/or delusional people can be after reading their customers suggestions. There is also the occasional good idea, and along with the very reluctant “I guess we really need to change this" when customer feedback is overwhelming negative

In response to Higirls I'll say that yes MANY businesses respond from customer feedback etc. I definitely get loads of good information from members and models on this forum, never the ones who deliberately try and give me advice, but just talking about things they've seen cam models do, things they've liked/haven't liked. Members seem to forget that I also have personal contact with all my consumers, often close relationships with them, so yes I am actually quite educated on the people coming to me.

The difference though with cam models and say, a tv/car company is as a camgirl I am ONE person. Offer me "advice" about my camming and you're essentially saying I'm not good enough how I am. Camming is who I am. I am the product as well as the person in charge of the product. If say someone started listing what they think you could change about Mfc no one would get insulted, we'd probably be like "cool story", but it's not personal. Doing what you did, you might as well go up to a bunch of random women and say "do women no realise they could get pregnant if they have sex?! Are you all that stupid?!" Well yes, I believe they are probably aware of this and either don't care or take the appropriate precautions, or maybe just don't have sex. Yes there are some ignorant women who seem to have no concept of birth control (and even more men in my experience), but why would you patch every woman with those?

Having a moan about a product is one thing. Having a few suggestions on a product is one thing. Asking the product maker about whether they've noticed something about their product is one thing. When the "product" is a live human being it is a whole other matter.

No I cannot simply change my personality. No I cannot simply change my whole look. Yes I am aware of the consequences of my job, and if I weren't? Oh well. When I have sex I could catch aids or get pregnant even whilst using a condom. I am fully aware of this, yet I still have sex.

There are negatives and downsides to absolutely everything in life. Especially things that are fun. You might as well ask "why doesn't everyone stay inside all day eating only healthy foods and doing gentle indoor exercise and wearing gas masks?"
If I didn't cam then I would either have had to move back to the city and try to get a career type job, or I'd have been stuck working every single day on minimum wage, no where to live, no money, no life really. Camming has given me an opportunity to live a good life and not work that much. Whatever happens later in life, I feel that it's worth it and wish I'd started sooner!

 

[LadyLuna]

I'm going to answer your question although I don't necessarily agree with people not excepting sex work.
1. Religion.
2. The stereotypes of sex workers doing drugs, having STD's, and no self-respect.

If she messed up and got an std, so what? How many teenagers do that without money involved? She can help them! It's not like she's going to pass the std on to the kids... Plenty of people who were never a part of the sex-work industry have std's, so that's not relevant.

If she was on drugs but is now clean, so what? How many teenagers do drugs? She can help them! Again, plenty of people who were never involved in it got hooked on drugs at some point.

If she's still on drugs, then yeah, don't let her teach until she's been to rehab and been out of rehab and clean for at least a few years. That's not just for ex-sex-workers, that's for ANYBODY.

No self-respect? Well, the interview will let the school determine if she has some now or not. Again, not relevant to sex-work, as that applies to anyone.

Religion has no place in public school policy.

It's like how the stereotype of black people is criminal, because at one point over 50% of black people were criminals. That doesn't mean they should've not hired the people who were black but weren't criminals, just for being black. But that's what's done to sex workers. "Oh, it's likely she has an std and is hooked on coke. We're not even going to test her for std's or drugs to be sure she is, we'll just assume she is and deny her application."

LITERALLY the only thing that makes sex work different from other work is that we're selling sex. Sex is tied to love and to reproduction, so some people think that we're selling love. Newsflash! There is a new business in the us where people pay to have someone cuddle with them! It's not part of sex-work, because no sex happens, no orgasm happens. The entire point of it is so that people who don't have a partner can get physically close to someone for a bit. No pillow talk. No sex. No relationship. Just physical presence. (yes, this really is a thing, and it's getting bigger.) The point? We're not selling love, we're selling sex, and possibly companionship.

Other people are upset by it because sex is part of reproduction. But, things like the pill, condoms, and surgery can take the reproduction out of the sex.

So what is there to get upset by? Sex can be addictive? Well so can anything else! Literally, I'm addicted to writing. I have to write, or I get the shakes and start hallucinating. When I was younger, I was addicted to reading in the same way. And yes, it did take over my life to the point where I wasn't getting any school work done, wasn't interested in making friends, and spent no time with my family. OMG! Stop the presses! You there, you're an author? Get away from the kids! You might make them READ!

(I am NOT advocating that we should let kids go to a prostitute, just that the idea that a prostitute being a teacher is any worse than a former bartender being a teacher is just... ludicrous.)

One more note on the whole self-respect thing. I have more self-respect now than I ever did as a clerk at a gas station. And yet any other position in the service industry is fine to have before teaching, as long as it doesn't involve sex (or masturbation). It's... ridiculous.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

One more note on the whole self-respect thing. I have more self-respect now than I ever did as a clerk at a gas station. And yet any other position in the service industry is fine to have before teaching, as long as it doesn't involve sex (or masturbation). It's... ridiculous.

I'll second that! I definitely have more self respect since I started camming! I've been a sex addict since I was 15, camming has calmed me down and has stopped that. I still love sex, but I don't need it like I used to. It's not wholly camming, there were other factors in it, but I think it plays a large part of it.


I think not hiring someone even for a teaching job just because they've been involved in sex work it stupid. Like I said before I think if there's a chance the child can see that stuff and be exposed to it then it's not appropriate, but prostitution? Or even stripping, only adults could have seen that stuff and it's not something that's recorded. You might as well say "No one who's ever had sex can ever teach!". I don't really get the great big negatives with stripping, stripping is literally just nudity/dancing. Some strippers don't even get fully naked! So many men and women will so casually go to strip clubs or hire a stripper and never think twice of it, yet the stripper herself? Big nono. She will always be "a stripper".

It's the same kind of people who think like this who go to me when I'm on cam something like "does your boyfriend know about this?" "god the person who's in love with you must be crying right now" For one they say that without there being any mention that I have a boyfriend or not so it's a ridiculous assumption in itself, but also, wtf?! They're willing to watch camgirls, yet they genuinely think that they wouldn't go out with them and neither would anyone else. It's the same kind of guys who stare at girls boobs all the time, yet when another guy looks at their girlfriends boobs they have a fit!