Why the controversy?

[Freq]

EVERY news station is running this story of a dance crew of 7 year old girls dancing to Beyonce's "Single Ladies". The arguement is that this song and coreography of this act is way to provocative for a bunch of 7 year olds to be preforming. Here it is:


I watched it. I was not sexually stimulated one bit. Nor was I offended by it! The thought that ANYONE could be *turned on* by a dancing 7 year old makes me want to puke! There are 100s of message boards discussing this story right now. Some of the most disturbing comments I saw are, "their parents should lose custody of their children", to "these little whores in training."
In my opinion, these little girls are merely having fun, with other little girls, in an artistic performance atmosphere. They aren't out doing this on the street; they are on stage. the last time I checked, none of the little boys from the old Lord of the flies movies grew up to be cannibals! Likewise, none of these little girls is the posterchild for miss MFC April 2022 (I couldn't resist!)

I will say that these girls are ADORABLE and very talented, and I wouldn't mind my little girl (if I had one) doing an ACT like this herself with a bunch of her girl friends. I would be proud if my kid was that good at something she liked to do!

thoughts??

 

[XxXIndiXxX]

I don't see the big deal either, it's a performance, they're obviously having fun and they're pretty damn good dancers!! I used to do dancing when I was little and I'm sure I've worn worse stuff than this :shock: :lol: From a girls perspective it's fun to get dressed up.

The problem is the sicko's who get turned on by this sort of stuff, not the girls.

 

[LadyLuna]

I did more provocative moves when I was in ballet O.O



And my rents were the biggest prudes on the planet. :lol:

Truthfully, the only thing I saw that could be considered iffy was what their outfits looked like. Which, again, I saw more "provocative" outfits on kids when I was little. That was TAME compared to what I bet a lot of the whiners let their kids go to school in.

 

[AmberCutie]

It's only inappropriate if you're actually having sexual thoughts about the girls. As has been said, it's the viewer with the issue, not the kids or their parents. Everyone needs to STFU and anyone who has a complaint about it should call the pedophile hotline and report themselves immediately.

 

[LadyLuna]

anyone who has a complaint about it should call the pedophile hotline and report themselves immediately.

 

[Comrade_1917]

This is just puritan pilgrim America rearing its head. I think they made a movie about this once called Footloose.

 

[SatanJonez]

Considering some of the creepy outfits/dance moves I've seen in kid pageants via The Soup this seems pretty innocent...

 

[Cassidy Nicole]

When I was 7, I did my first dance thing to "Hit Me Baby One More Time", my class was beginners jazz and it was stupid. It was akward and we were horrible at it just kinda stumbled around on stage. I saw this video and was like holy shit, they are fucking awesomeeeeeeee. I wish I could dance like that.

 

[XxXIndiXxX]

When I was 7, I did my first dance thing to "Hit Me Baby One More Time", my class was beginners jazz and it was stupid. It was akward and we were horrible at it just kinda stumbled around on stage. I saw this video and was like holy shit, they are fucking awesomeeeeeeee. I wish I could dance like that.

:lol: We did "Hit me baby one more time" too and yep we were HORRIBLE!

 

[Mikeythegeek]

It's only inappropriate if you're actually having sexual thoughts about the girls. As has been said, it's the viewer with the issue, not the kids or their parents. Everyone needs to STFU and anyone who has a complaint about it should call the pedophile hotline and report themselves immediately.

Amen to that!

I get why some people would think that they shouldn't be dancing like that, but I'll bet you their parents aren't the ones complaining. If their parents are OK with it, why the fuck should anyone else bitch about it?

 

[AmberCutie]

It's only inappropriate if you're actually having sexual thoughts about the girls. As has been said, it's the viewer with the issue, not the kids or their parents. Everyone needs to STFU and anyone who has a complaint about it should call the pedophile hotline and report themselves immediately.

Amen to that!

I get why some people would think that they shouldn't be dancing like that, but I'll bet you their parents aren't the ones complaining. If their parents are OK with it, why the fuck should anyone else bitch about it?

Because the perverts are worried they can't control themselves. So they'd rather put the blame on the girls instead of point the finger in the right direction.

 

[Mikeythegeek]

Because the perverts are worried they can't control themselves. So they'd rather put the blame on the girls instead of point the finger in the right direction.

They're perverts. Their opinion doesn't count.

In my job, I have seen a potential child pervert looking at clothed little girls on a computer screen and touching the screen with his finger around those girls private parts. It made me want to puke so bad. But we couldn't throw him out because the girls were clothed.

 

[heart42]

Guys
I know this isn't an easy subject to discuss as I saw the original version of Footloose when I was in high school & I agree with all of you as this has added fuel to the fire. As long as we don't have pedophilic tendencies we need to enjoy what's out there & not worry
why this is going on.

 

[AmberCutie]

Footloose was about pedophiles?

 

[SatanJonez]

Footloose was about pedophiles?

Well duh. Everyone knows that. :roll: </sarcasm>

 

[Tahnee]

Footloose was about pedophiles?

Well duh. Everyone knows that. :roll: </sarcasm>

Um. I didn't know either. Gonna have to watch it again now with that in mind. :lol:


As for my take on that video - I come at it from a different angle (not that I'm a pedo, obviously).

Question: would it bother you to hear a 7 year old girl say something along the lines of 'I'm so horny, fuck me babe, you know you want to.'???

I think that's why people are up in arms over this video. Those girls are dancing, yes, but how? They're doing stripper moves, wearing stripper-ish clothing. A grown woman wearing that and moving her body that way would be assumed to be signalling that she's sexy and wants to be fucked to the audience. How is it a different message, aside from the fact that one is verbal and one is non-verbal?

Regardless of whether the viewer is a pedo or not, the message the girls seem to be sending is the focus and I don't think it's right. Kids don't get to be kids anymore. Are you telling me it wouldn't bother you to see your 7 year old literally shaking her ass in booty shorts and thigh highs? At 7 I was jumping rope and playing with dolls, not looking like I was auditioning for a hip hop video. Yes I danced as well, but it was tap and jazz, not pole dancing. lol

I see g-strings on sale for girls as young as 4 here and I don't like it. I don't have a daughter but if I ever do, there's no way she'll be wearing the same sort of underwear as me until she's a teenager at least.

Music videos, advertising, the internet, even those whorish Bratz dolls; I think the point the people who disagree with this video are trying to make is that children are being much too exposed to a lot of sexuality way before they're ready to be able to deal with it psychologically. Those little girls don't know what they're doing and I'm sure they enjoy it, but I'm also sure they'd enjoy less sexual moves and a less sexy outfit just as much.

And seeing as I already know most of you disagree with me, you can all start hating on me now. :-D

 

[Mikeythegeek]

Tahnee, I don't disagree with you. I wouldn't want my kid dancing that way at all. But if the parents of the kids aren't bothered, then I'm not going to complain. It's none of my business how any parent raises their kid unless that kid is a part of my family or the parent is doing something to the kid that is improper while visiting where I work.

 

[Comrade_1917]

I can connect Footloose to pedophilia. (1)Kevin Bacon was in footloose and he was in Apollo 13 with (2)Tom Hanks who was the star of (3)The Da Vinci Code which is set at the (4)Vatican where (5)The Pope lives The Pope was in charge of (6) a school in Germany where Priests raped children. Thats six degrees bitches

 

[SatanJonez]

I can connect Footloose to pedophilia. (1)Kevin Bacon was in footloose and he was in Apollo 13 with (2)Tom Hanks who was the star of (3)The Da Vinci Code which is set at the (4)Vatican where (5)The Pope lives The Pope was in charge of (6) a school in Germany where Priests raped children. Thats six degrees bitches

Mind. Blown.

 

[Bocefish]

The vid is no longer available. Not having seen it, I will agree with Tahnee. 7 years old is a way too young to be dancing in a sexual or provocative manner, if that's what the kids were doing. I am NOT a fan of those little tyke beauty pageants either. Kids should be kids, they are already maturing at a faster rate than ever before due to a multitude of reasons. Sex sells, but please leave the kids out of it until they know exactly what they're doing.

 

[Tahnee]

Tahnee, I don't disagree with you. I wouldn't want my kid dancing that way at all. But if the parents of the kids aren't bothered, then I'm not going to complain. It's none of my business how any parent raises their kid unless that kid is a part of my family or the parent is doing something to the kid that is improper while visiting where I work.

Fair enough.

The vid is no longer available. Not having seen it, I will agree with Tahnee. 7 years old is a way too young to be dancing in a sexual or provocative manner, if that's what the kids were doing. I am NOT a fan of those little tyke beauty pageants either. Kids should be kids, they are already maturing at a faster rate than ever before due to a multitude of reasons. Sex sells, but please leave the kids out of it until they know exactly what they're doing.

Urrggh, don't even get me started on the beauty pageants. lol. THANK YOU boce - you get what I was trying to say (and a fab summary, hehe).

 

[LadyLuna]

They're doing stripper moves, wearing stripper-ish clothing. A grown woman wearing that and moving her body that way would be assumed to be signalling that she's sexy and wants to be fucked to the audience.

A grown woman appearing on stage in anything that shows any skin at all (besides maybe her lower leg, arms, face, and neck area), dancing in any fashion at all, is interpreted as wanting sex... regardless of the moves...

A quote from my room:

OMG, she doesn't have socks on ant:

(While I'm dancing retartedly)
SOO Hot baby, I want you so bad

UM, even *I* knew it was horrible. I was doing the chicken dance, for crying out loud.

Context is everything. Any less cloth than what they had on, and yes, I'd agree, it would seem whorish even on a 7-year-old. There were a whole 20 secs worth of moves that I would question coming from a 7-year-old in the dance.

 

[Comrade_1917]

LadyLuna wrote

A grown woman appearing on stage in anything that shows any skin at all (besides maybe her lower leg, arms, face, and neck area), dancing in any fashion at all, is interpreted as wanting sex... regardless of the moves...

Context is everything. Any less cloth than what they had on, and yes, I'd agree, it would seem whorish even on a 7-year-old. There were a whole 20 secs worth of moves that I would question coming from a 7-year-old in the dance.

I agree completely. It is possible that two things can be true at once. The dancing is sexual but also harmless fun. The important thing is the state of mind of the dancer. Its like Puff the Magic Dragon, yes the song is about smoking weed but it is also a harmless song that appeals to kids. It is the state of mind of the listener that determines the connotation.

Dirty dancing = dirty mind

 

[SatanJonez]

What is sexual is in the mind of the on looker. Hell, some people get all hot and bothered over fire. Pun intended at least a little bit.

 

[Comrade_1917]

What is sexual is in the mind of the on looker. Hell, some people get all hot and bothered over fire. Pun intended at least a little bit.

Exactly it doesn't matter what those girls were doing some people would see it as sexual. There is simply nothing can be done about it.

 

[AmberCutie]

Agree or disagree?:

There is a certain age where young girls KNOW that what they're doing is provocative.

I'm sure I'm going to start a controversial conversation with just that statement.

I'll also go back to the OP and say this. I do feel bad that the girls probably don't realize that their dance instructor/teacher is choreographing a risqué routine for them. The instructor, being an adult, should know better than to have 7 year old girls do grown-up moves. That being said, you cannot fault the girls themselves doing the routine...

.... however... if the girls were say, 14 or 15, I would bet they realize that the moves they're doing would excite a male. At that point I could see blaming the actual performers for it. I've told people in my room time after time that I was 14 when I first had sex. I knew what I was doing, and I knew the clothes I wore and the way I danced influenced the way boys looked at me. I felt I was mature enough at the time to deal with all those things. That doesn't mean that all girls at that age are aware of the consequences and are ready to deal with it. This also doesn't mean I think it's ok for all teenagers to have sex. I'm just saying I personally was ready, mature enough to understand the pros and cons, and understood what it meant.

I know this is a hot topic, now and always. Lets see what others have to say.

DISCLAIMER: Please remember I am not condoning any illegal behavior. If any responses get out of hand I'll delete them immediately. Think about responses before posting.

 

[LadyLuna]

Agree or disagree?:

There is a certain age where young girls KNOW that what they're doing is provocative.

Agreed.

Moves like that done with the intention of being provocative would be provocative.

What age the girls know that what they're doing is provocative though... that differs.

Example: you and me. You were aware at 14 what you were doing. At 16 I started becoming aware that some people actually WANTED this thing called sex from which babies were made. That would also be around the same time that I found out that babies don't happen even half the time from sex to begin with...

Yeah, I was a naive little girl.

I still didn't see the point, but I realized that there was one to other people. I also got my first crush, which was purely grade-school "omg, I want to dance with him and kiss him and spend all my time with him."

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At 14, I did a dance to the song Candy, and I had NO idea that the moves were supposed to be sexual. Therefore, I did them technically correct, but without any feeling behind them, and I know for a fact that most of the class was not turned on at all by me doing those moves. Even though they were "supposed" to be provocative, the mere fact that I didn't realize it and so wasn't doing it for that made it not provocative to about 50 NINTH GRADE BOYS. If about 90% of 9th grade boys aren't turned on by it, who the hell would be? (After the dance, a whole 2 guys suddenly took an interest in my lack of sexuality with the aim of "curing" it... Granted, there were only about 100 students total in the class...)

If that dance was done for a talent show, there is no guarantee that there was any choreographer for it. It's entirely possible that the girls came up with the moves on their own, based off moves they saw in music videos. In which case, my opinion of their talent is raised by a hundred...