model recorded our exclusive and selling it!

[llast1]

a model made me pay more than triple her original price to perform a request in exclusive 90/min, and I request exclusives always so models can't record and sell my show, specially with her because i know her she always sells her privates, so i paid more than triple her original price, and at the end she recorded even our exclusive using external apps and is selling it on stripchat and on chaturbate under the same name.
tried support for a week and i only get AI responses that the model didn't break any rules, and that the exclamation mark at the exclusive button that says "After the show, you can save the recording to “My Collection”. The model cannot save it." doesn't mean that the model can't record any show she want and do whatever she want with!!!!!!!

 

[AmberCutie]

It sounds like you asked for something in the show that is out of her usual to perform, and got what you asked for. It's always within a model's rights to use her own content how she sees fit. Exclusive meant that no other people were present IN the show, at the time of the show.

responses that the model didn't break any rules

it sounds like you already have your answer.

Get over it dude.

 

[katandcrown]

I agree with Miss Amber.

Models can request a copy of their shows from site for downloading and doing what they want with them [atleast for CB].

The only way to find fault is if you make a signed contract for a paper trail; but is it really worth that headache? I would personally just be happy that the model even obliged for an exclusive show and if she delivered everything you wanted in it, that's a bonus.

 

[MarieElise]

a model made me pay more than triple her original price to perform a request in exclusive 90/min, and I request exclusives always so models can't record and sell my show, specially with her because i know her she always sells her privates, so i paid more than triple her original price, and at the end she recorded even our exclusive using external apps and is selling it on stripchat and on chaturbate under the same name.
tried support for a week and i only get AI responses that the model didn't break any rules, and that the exclamation mark at the exclusive button that says "After the show, you can save the recording to “My Collection”. The model cannot save it." doesn't mean that the model can't record any show she want and do whatever she want with!!!!!!!

Any footage that features her is, by law, hers. Unless she signs away rights to it. It is her face/ body/ likeness. She does not belong to you, nor does her body or anything about her. If you got off in the show and enjoyed it, I genuinely do not see why this would matter in the slightest, or now negate the nut you (presumably) previously had. I do not understand why you would think that models cannot record and resell exclusives if they wish, or why you were under the impression that it wasn't allowed? Perhaps the use of the word "exclusive"? That usually just means it's a true one-on-one, at the time it was performed.

In the future, I advise that you verbally ask if the model wishes to do a show with you, knowing that you request she not ever reuse the footage. Technically, even a verbal agreement probably isn't binding, but I feel like a lot of us would be straight up about whether this was something we wanted to abide by or not. If you were a valuable customer to me, I would not mind it myself. If you were a fly-by-night guy I just met wanting a high demand fetish show, I'd tell you no. The footage was getting resold, and you'd be welcome to find someone else if that was a deal-breaker for you.

 

[llast1]

First of all, it wasn’t something extreme, it was just feet play, i didn’t say i own her, or she must obey and follow my orders.

I want to know to why does it say at the exclusive show button "After the show, you can save the recording to “My Collection”. The model cannot save it.".
For 8 years i’ve been taking models only exclusive privates, because of this message, and now everyone say it doesn’t mean models can’t have a a copy!, was i just been paying extra for something fake!.

 

[happyguy]

I think OP has a point.

During Exclusive Private on Stripchat when the recording option is enabled by the model, it is clearly stated "Only you get recording of show" - meaning the user.

Then by pressing the question mark icon by this text the following pop up appears: "After the show, you can save the recording to 'My Collection'. The model cannot save it".

To me that implies that Exclusive Private show recordings are not saveable by models and should not be offered for sale.

 

[MarieElise]

Of course the language is to trick you and give you a false sense of security. That happens on all these sites as well as in regular marketing all the time too. Personally I don't like it or agree with it either, but in the US there are very few regulations on marketing. I grew up in Europe, where it was more regulated. But that's not the case here, never has been (at least since 1997, from my experience). And if it isn't going to be regulated then all companies have the option of playing somewhat dirty, as they compete for money. Which they do. That's capitalism, and loosely regulated marketing.

I could give you literally a million examples of it in everyday marketing on pretty much every site on the internet that sells anything. As well as in actual stores, its just easier to pull it off on the internet.

Again, moving forward, just communicate openly and honestly with models about this PRIOR to the show. That is the only solution to this other than you quitting cam sites altogether. Vet who you have shows with more thoroughly if you want to avoid this in the future.If you're only spending 90 tokens a minute you might not have the best of luck with that, but who knows.

 

[MeAbc]

That is corect happyguy. We cannot sell exclusive show videos. I dont understand how this model was able to sell an exclusive privare show to anyone because we dont have that option. If she has it must be illegal.

 

[Natural9]

That is corect happyguy. We cannot sell exclusive show videos. I dont understand how this model was able to sell an exclusive privare show to anyone because we dont have that option. If she has it must be illegal.

It is not illegal. She just used other software to record the show so she could sell it. She knowingly lied to him and did what she wanted anyways. Now if HE had recorded it using "other" software and posted it online anywhere even for free it would be a a crisis of epic proportion...lol

 

[Maxi]

Who gives a fuck? He’s a got the recorded session in his account to watch again and again any time.

I literally see no difference to Exclusive Private other than cam 2 cam. And I’m sure OP wasn’t shown on video the model posted.

Give me a break…

 

[MeAbc]

It is not illegal. She just used other software to record the show so she could sell it. She knowingly lied to him and did what she wanted anyways. Now if HE had recorded it using "other" software and posted it online anywhere even for free it would be a a crisis of epic proportion...lol

That is still against Stripchat rules isn't it? Models are not permitted to have viewers on their recorded shows. The reason Stripchat doesn't allow exclusives to be sold is because it is a violation of the viewer's privacy. The viewer who is on cam with the model can be seen in exclusive videos. Cam models are not permitted to show viewers on cam while they perform for them. If a model uses external software to record an exclusive show and the viewer is on cam the model could be suspended or banned from broadcasting.

We can however save recorded regular private shows and sell them. Viewers are not shown on regular private shows.

 

[llast1]

Who gives a fuck? He’s a got the recorded session in his account to watch again and again any time.

I literally see no difference to Exclusive Private other than cam 2 cam. And I’m sure OP wasn’t shown on video the model posted.

Give me a break…

I give a fuck!
I paid extra to not allow her to record our time together, even if i wanted her to start a private with me and go to sleep or eat, or do whatever we agreed on, according to the site this is my only right from an exclusive show that the model doesn’t have a recording, and even this one huge difference between regular pvt, and exclusives was broken, and when talking to support they say a model can do whatever she want!!!!

This nonsense sounds a lot like chaturbate support, when I tell them a model ignored what we agreed on, or lied about what she can do in a private, because i left chaturbate due to the same response “a model can’t be held to perform anything in a private going alone with you is the one thing guaranteed for you as a user”

 

[Natural9]

That is still against Stripchat rules isn't it? Models are not permitted to have viewers on their recorded shows. The reason Stripchat doesn't allow exclusives to be sold is because it is a violation of the viewer's privacy. The viewer who is on cam with the model can be seen in exclusive videos. Cam models are not permitted to show viewers on cam while they perform for them. If a model uses external software to record an exclusive show and the viewer is on cam the model could be suspended or banned from broadcasting.

We can however save recorded regular private shows and sell them. Viewers are not shown on regular private shows.

If the model used 2 monitors and had her cam on one monitor and his on another she did not record him at all. I highly doubt she would have posted it on SC and CB if he was in the video. That would be a rule violation for an unverified person on cam.

 

[Vixxen81]

If the model used 2 monitors and had her cam on one monitor and his on another she did not record him at all. I highly doubt she would have posted it on SC and CB if he was in the video. That would be a rule violation for an unverified person on cam.

Never would have been approved on CB.

 

[MarieElise]

I give a fuck!
I paid extra to not allow her to record our time together, even if i wanted her to start a private with me and go to sleep or eat, or do whatever we agreed on, according to the site this is my only right from an exclusive show that the model doesn’t have a recording, and even this one huge difference between regular pvt, and exclusives was broken, and when talking to support they say a model can do whatever she want!!!!

This nonsense sounds a lot like chaturbate support, when I tell them a model ignored what we agreed on, or lied about what she can do in a private, because i left chaturbate due to the same response “a model can’t be held to perform anything in a private going alone with you is the one thing guaranteed for you as a user”

So it's been explained to you now several times by us here and by support from the site. Are you just being obtuse for attention now? You were fooled by language and were explicitly guaranteed no such thing, Fucks sakes. Just do us all a favor and leave cam sites, I think we'll all be good. You're not on any recording; it's her likeness, if you can't handle that. Then ba-bye then We've all taken time to address you, as has support. As far as I'm concerned, the chapter is closed.

 

[Natural9]

specially with her because i know her she always sells her privates,

You knew and volunteered anyways.

 

[Vixxen81]

You knew and volunteered anyways.

I think this is the most important detail. User may have an exploitation fetish they aren't aware of but fed anyway.

 

[llast1]

BTW new user here!
my comments are added to the thread after hours, i'm answering after hours to be polite...

 

[Vixxen81]

BTW new user here!
my comments are added to the thread after hours, i'm answering after hours to be polite...

There is no such thing as "after hours" on a forum.

 

[Maxi]

I give a fuck!
I paid extra to not allow her to record our time together, even if i wanted her to start a private with me and go to sleep or eat, or do whatever we agreed on, according to the site this is my only right from an exclusive show that the model doesn’t have a recording, and even this one huge difference between regular pvt, and exclusives was broken, and when talking to support they say a model can do whatever she want!!!!

This nonsense sounds a lot like chaturbate support, when I tell them a model ignored what we agreed on, or lied about what she can do in a private, because i left chaturbate due to the same response “a model can’t be held to perform anything in a private going alone with you is the one thing guaranteed for you as a user”

But it’s the model’s performance; it’s their show - it’s not yours - you’re never even seen. The model moves on to the next Exclusive Private hopefully within minutes.

It’s not ‘special’ after it ends. It’s content that hopefully can be monetised afterwards, for very good reason.

 

[AmberCutie]

That is still against Stripchat rules isn't it? Models are not permitted to have viewers on their recorded shows. The reason Stripchat doesn't allow exclusives to be sold is because it is a violation of the viewer's privacy. The viewer who is on cam with the model can be seen in exclusive videos. Cam models are not permitted to show viewers on cam while they perform for them. If a model uses external software to record an exclusive show and the viewer is on cam the model could be suspended or banned from broadcasting.

We can however save recorded regular private shows and sell them. Viewers are not shown on regular private shows.

For some reason I thought you were a model, too?

We models can use our own software to record OUR stream, not CB/SC/MFC's stream. We as models own our own content in this way, it's OUR stream, OUR content to do what we please with.

If the model actually recorded the member's cam image on the vid, I can see that being an issue, but so far that hasn't directly been stated in this thread.

 

[llast1]

There is no such thing as "after hours" on a forum.like lit

Like literally why the fuck would l lie about this?
The first 3-4 replies i sent i got a notification “ your reply will be visible to others, after the moderator checks it”
I’ve learned that models can save everything, and i ended my discussion on that part, the last thing that triggers me is why stripchat advertising exclusive shows like this.

I’ll repeat it for last time I’M TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING SITE MESSAGE.

With all due respect to the models you’re talking from your POV and the profit you get, and I’m talking about the site.

 

[Vixxen81]

Like literally why the fuck would l lie about this?
The first 3-4 replies i sent i got a notification “ your reply will be visible to others, after the moderator checks it”
I’ve learned that models can save everything, and i ended my discussion on that part, the last thing that triggers me is why stripchat advertising exclusive shows like this.

I’ll repeat it for last time I’M TALKING ABOUT THE FUCKING SITE MESSAGE.

With all due respect to the models you’re talking from your POV and the profit you get, and I’m talking about the site.

And with all do respect not a single model on here gives a flying fuck about your perspective because you're wrong and don't know how to read things properly.

 

[yummybrownfox]

For some reason I thought you were a model, too?

Yes, you are right. I just looked at MeAbc's post history, and they said that they're a model on Stripchat.

 

[AmberCutie]

The first 3-4 replies i sent i got a notification “ your reply will be visible to others, after the moderator checks it”

That doesn't make it "after hours" lol... anyway

stripchat advertising exclusive shows like this.

From what you and others have stated, SC says that the show won't automatically be recorded and saved on the models side.

Regular privates sound like they are automatically recorded and available to be resold directly in the interface. Exclusives aren't. That's it, that's the benefit of the higher rate private.

Did the video she sold of your private include your cam to cam video on it? If THAT's the case, then I think you have an argument why it should not be resold.

 

[llast1]

That doesn't make it "after hours" lol... anyway


From what you and others have stated, SC says that the show won't automatically be recorded and saved on the models side.

Regular privates sound like they are automatically recorded and available to be resold directly in the interface. Exclusives aren't. That's it, that's the benefit of the higher rate private.

Did the video she sold of your private include your cam to cam video on it? If THAT's the case, then I think you have an argument why it should not be resold.

Are you really an admin here and saying I’m laying about the wait period for my first replies here?.


Is this another language or English ( "After the show, you can save the recording to “My Collection”. The model cannot save it." )

WTF does cannot mean?

 

[Vixxen81]

Are you really an admin here and saying I’m laying about the wait period for my first replies here?.


Is this another language or English ( "After the show, you can save the recording to “My Collection”. The model cannot save it." )

WTF does cannot mean?

SHE'S THE OWNER OF THE SITE YOU'RE POSTING ON.

 

[AmberCutie]

Are you really an admin here and saying I’m laying about the wait period for my first replies here?.

I'm the owner of this forum and the one who has approved your previous posts. I'm just confused why you call it "after hours".

Is this another language or English ( "After the show, you can save the recording to “My Collection”. The model cannot save it." )

WTF does cannot mean?

Do you know how regular privates work on the model side?

From what I've gathered, the model has the ability to automatically save a private afterwards, and have it easily able to be resold on her page from there. I could be wrong.

 

[llast1]

instead of just talking, and saying i’m wrong, i don’t know how to read, and that i’m going after the model (when I’m clearly saying my problem is with the site’s message) why don’t you go to stripchat hit the exclusive button and see what you get!

 

[llast1]

SHE'S THE OWNER OF THE SITE YOU'RE POSTING ON.

Yet, she’s implying that i’m laying about the wait period until a moderator checks my reply!!