Camming to be featured in Hot Girls Wanted: Turned On

[JickyJuly]

They clearly value profits over people

Made a little alteration. There we go!
Let's say we give ol' Rashida Jones the benefit of the doubt and say she is horrified by the mistreatment of young folks. Her heart is genuinely broken for them, and she must do something about it! Why didn't she stay in her own lane, use her own contacts and expose the way Hollywood chews up women, men and, most notably, children? Let's think on that. It would affect HER wallet. It would affect HER business and personal relationships. It would likely get HER shunned in her own circles. It might even disappoint or affect HER family. Plus, you can't really call a documentary Hot Kids Wanted: Turned On and without a salacious title, where's the money coming from? She works among people who abuse the vulnerable. She profits in an industry built on breaking people, and she's not trying to change that for herself.

 

[JoleneBrody]

Actually, that's not true. At any given time roughly a 1/3 of the top 100 models have a date raffle and they are often immensely popular. I thought the portrayal of the meeting was pretty accurate from the members side. Of the ~10 guys, including myself, that have won date raffle, or paid for model meetings that I've talked to about the experience, every member expressed a similar sentiment to the guy, "Approximate" in the show.

"I'm really nervous, but I'm excited, I know nothing more is likely to happen than date, but damn it would be great if it did.' In most, but not all cases nothing happened. Approximate, may have been more obsessed than most of the members, but judging by the large number of threads on "I'm in love with a camgirl, I think she loves me I'm going to fly to Europe to meet her.", I'd say there are plenty of guys even more delusional.

Now I can't speak for how models feel, (that's why I'm on the forum), but either the model, Alice, is an oscar-worthy actress, or she had genuine feelings for Approximate. I sure have read lots of post by models say they do have real feeling for their favorite members. It was a bit unusual for her to fly to meet the guy instead of the other way around, but I think that's because she was excited about meeting him also.

Approximate said "I'm socially awkward in simple situations, and this is really complicated". To me that's one of the most interesting things about the model/member relationship. It starts with sex (virtual) and then evolves into a friendship, often over an extended period of time. This is bassackwards from most real life relationship. I thought the show did a good job portraying the weird world of relationship in camming.

I'm watching this episode now and I'm honestly tearing up over how honest, caring and respectful Alice was to do what she ended up doing.

 

[Guy]

More models are saying they appear in the new series without their consent, and apparently Hot Girls Wanted even shows some model's REAL NAMES and their personal facebook pages! WTF This just keeps getting worse. I encourage more people to email Netflix with your disapproval!

Why isnt MFC condeming all of this on Twitter?

 

[JoleneBrody]

Why isnt MFC condeming all of this on Twitter?

They are known for being professional and staying in their lane. Getting involved in drama is just not something MFC does.

 

[Guy]

OMG. I cant believe Lisa Ann said about all of this.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Really like this back and forth between her and IAmMegaGirl. Not really sure what to make of it all atm.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Wellllll, actually that's not true. You cannot have offer outside contact on Cams or Streamate. So... 1/3 of the top models on ALL sites don't have date raffles, just MFC (and to some extent CB).
Also, that's bad math. How does 33 models on MFC offering date raffles translate to what @Guy said being untrue? That's a really small percentage of models offering to potentially meet members.

Now if you're just speaking as to members feeling comfy meeting models, that's another thing entirely.

If you had watched the series, or even just episode 5, you'd realize that camgirl in question is actually primarily a SM model and that's where they meet. One of the members, that paid for date that I know was also with a SM model, the rest are from MFC. You are a smart woman, I'm sure you realize that what the TOS prohibit and what actually happens on camsites are different things.
I'm not claiming that 1/3 of cammodels meet members, I don't know the percentage. It's not uncommon to meet members, if that means 2% or 33% of successful models meet member I'm not sure. (I'm exclude girls who quit camming after a few months). But I am quite sure it far great than the 1/1000 that Guy claimed.
I don't care if you don't believe me that the portrayal of their meeting was sensitive. But you all really should pay attention, to Jolene.

I'm watching this episode now and I'm honestly tearing up over how honest, caring and respectful Alice was to do what she ended up doing.

 

[AudriTwo]

If you had watched the series, or even just episode 5, you'd realize that camgirl in question is actually primarily a SM model and that's where they meet.

She is an idiot. She may get canned if it's found they swapped contact info through the site.. They don't care how much money you make. And they can easily find proof if they look hard enough. I got a 24 hour time out last week for uttering the word "twitter" Just because a model does it, and may get away with it, doesn't make it okay.

6. Do Not Solicit Personal Contact With Customers
It is inappropriate to solicit for escort, prostitution, or personal contact with customers. That includes exchanging emails, addresses, online chat IDs (Yahoo, MSN, ICQ, etc.), and social media sites (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.). Accounts found to be participating in this type of activity will be terminated and payments will be withheld.

https://www.streamatemodels.com/conduct.php

 

[Phoenix4987]

Ah man, I kinda avoided the topic. But seeing episode 5, I'm kinda jealous. It seems really nice to have a relationship like that with a model. Seems so honest.

Approximate knows her well enough Alice's SO feels comfortable saying hey. Like he got to know the real her. And then also meet her.

All the feels

 

[Guy]

She is an idiot. She may get canned if it's found they swapped contact info through the site.. They don't care how much money you make. And they can easily find proof if they look hard enough. I got a 24 hour time out last week for uttering the word "twitter" Just because a model does it, and may get away with it, doesn't make it okay.



https://www.streamatemodels.com/conduct.php

I wonder if that meeting was staged. Could have been her SO or a friend.

 

[SaffronBurke]

You are a smart woman, I'm sure you realize that what the TOS prohibit and what actually happens on camsites are different things.

Streamate is a site where models get suspensions for saying "just Google me" when someone asks where else to find them. They are fucking SERIOUS about that shit. Actually going so far as to organize a meetup is a surefire way to lose your account for good. Being that it's in the documentary, it's entirely possible that someone might report her to the site, and they will ban her for it. They keep chats and feeds on file so they can verify reports.

 

[Lexi Emerson]

I just checked out Alice on Twitter after finishing her episode and it appears she was not told she was filming for HGW until after it was all filmed. I was curious how they got so many people to film with them after the shitshow that the first film caused in the sex industry. I am curious if they would have got the same people to film with them if they were aware right off the bat that they were filming for the series.

Also this episode with Alice and Approximate pissed me off about 14738274 times. Not even because of how they filmed it but because the whole thing was just insane. I feel legitimately bad for Tom. I felt he was really led on and while he may have been naive, I think that Alice did way too many stupid things.

I loved the first episode and I feel like it's went downhill from there and each episode annoys me a little more for some reason.

 

[marvelb0y]

Episode 5 was definitely very cringe worthy even if it's honest. It just seems like Alice set the guy up for a huge fall by crossing all sorts of boundaries at the outset. Your typical MFC date raffle says, a normal date in a public place with no expectation of sex. What did Alice do? She went to his apartment right when she got there and took a shower in his bathroom. And she brought a whole bunch of lingerie and toys with the stated plan of doing a private for him in person. She also said she is polyamorous which is probably how she justifies why her husband is cool with the whole arrangement. For any guy, all this just screams, I'm gonna get lucky with this girl. And yet, she wasn't prepared to do any of that and by her honesty, devastated the guy. You can say she deserves some credit by being honest. I see her as leading him on for four years and then realized she didn't need his money bad enough to carry on the charade.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Episode 5 was definitely very cringe worthy even if it's honest. It just seems like Alice set the guy up for a huge fall by crossing all sorts of boundaries at the outset. Your typical MFC date raffle says, a normal date in a public place with no expectation of sex. What did Alice do? She went to his apartment right when she got there and took a shower in his bathroom. And she brought a whole bunch of lingerie and toys with the stated plan of doing a private for him in person. She also said she is polyamorous which is probably how she justifies why her husband is cool with the whole arrangement. For any guy, all this just screams, I'm gonna get lucky with this girl. And yet, she wasn't prepared to do any of that and by her honesty, devastated the guy. You can say she deserves some credit by being honest. I see her as leading him on for four years and then realized she didn't need his money bad enough to carry on the charade.

It was hard to watch but honest. It was different than a date raffle, date because it wasn't a raffle. It was meeting between two long time internet friends. There are examples of camgirls having sex, dating, and even marrying members, rare but does happen. I think Alice talking to her friend saying she was polyamorous and saying that if she lived in Australia maybe things would be different, demonstrated she had some real feeling for Approximate. I believe she went there at least open to having a sexual relationship with him.

I know from my own online dating experience, that just because you really connect with somebody over the internet, doesn't mean you will in real life. I've also found the opposite girls that didn't find much of on connection on the internet, but we had chemistry in real-life. The chemistry wasn't there for Alice, and if Approximate wasn't so desperate for a relationship probably not really there for him either.

I'm not judging either one of them. Relationships are complicated enough, you throw in money, sex shows, and the false sense of intimacy that you get from the internet, it becomes 3 Dimensional chess. There aren't any rules for this stuff, and they both came across good people trying to do the right thing in the strange new internet/camgirl world. To some extent, leading guys on is part of the job description of a camgirl. I really don't think Alice crossed any lines, so I am curious what people found stupid about her behavior.


Alice still has her account on SM, and on Twitter, she seems very pleased with the episode.

 

[SuzySirenXO]

Do you think that the whole thing could have been staged?

Highly doubtful. A smart person can and will google their favorite cam girl to find them elsewhere. Most of us purposefully keep our user names the same across platforms so that our friends and various users can find us easily.

News flash about everyone thinking it was probably staged or whatever.

WE ARE HUMANS TOO WITH REAL FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS.

 

[Guy]

Article about whats going on.
https://memeburn.com/2017/04/netflix-hot-girls-wanted-sex-workers/

 

[Guy]

Highly doubtful. A smart person can and will google their favorite cam girl to find them elsewhere. Most of us purposefully keep our user names the same across platforms so that our friends and various users can find us easily.

News flash about everyone thinking it was probably staged or whatever.

WE ARE HUMANS TOO WITH REAL FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS.

I was talking about the meeting, not the whole episode.

 

[SuzySirenXO]

I was talking about the meeting not the whole episode.

Still incredibly doubtful. If it was a staged meeting, why have her there for days and days? They give you a rundown of their online relationship prior to the meeting.

Your posts about it seem like you NEED it to have been staged. Why is that?


Edited to add: The emotions that both of them clearly show within that episode seem incredibly genuine to me. And yes...while some cam girls are excellent actresses, I don't think thats the case here.

 

[Guy]

Still incredibly doubtful. If it was a staged meeting, why have her there for days and days? They give you a rundown of their online relationship prior to the meeting.

Your posts about it seem like you NEED it to have been staged. Why is that?

Not saying it that the meeting needs to have been staged. Its just a theory that I have.
Sorry if I offended anyone.

 

[AudriTwo]

All it takes is someone to report her to the site. Like any salty model will. If it's her first offense, they usually give a warning.

Even if she doesn't get in trouble. What she did on Streamate is not allowed. So don't come to Streamate thinking you will actually meet your model friends, like she did.

 

[Guy]

All it takes is someone to report her to the site. Like any salty model will. If it's her first offense, they usually give a warning.

Even if she doesn't get in trouble. What she did on Streamate is not allowed. So don't come to Streamate thinking you will actually meet your model friends, like she did.

There not even allowed to meet a member at a convention?

 

[AudriTwo]

There not even allowed to meet a member at a convention?

They cannot swap contact info at all on the site. If they find you on their own, fair game.

 

[MojitosJourney]

There not even allowed to meet a member at a convention?

Conventions are OK, but she can only organize meeting you at the convention while she's on cam if Streamate is officially attending said convention and she's one of the models invited to sign at their booth. Still not allowed to swap personal info (phone numbers, e-mail etc) while she's on cam.

 

[Guy]

They cannot swap contact info at all on the site.

From what I understand, all private based sites have that policy.

 

[AudriTwo]

From what i understand, all private based sites have that policy.

No it depends on the sites. ToS and CoC will usually tell you if you can and can't.

 

[Ambers Troll]

Episode 5 was very much what I feared I would see, doesn't do much to dispel the stigma involved in the camming relationship. Having said that it wasn't exactly biased or vindictive against model or member; personally it was much the same message on the relationship as the camgirlz documentary.
Tom and Alice were shown as genuine, nice people. I enjoyed seeing them meet up but was curious what impact it had on them when life returned to normal routine. There would have been some catch up chat at the very least, I am curious to what extent their chat has changed.

There was definitely a few views of other cam models and their user names that should have been better protected. Perhaps before doing shows on any group film makers may want to learn a little more about the concerns of their subjects. It looked like they tried a bit to protect other model's identities, but it was not quite enough. Perhaps the makers got the site's permission?, but that doesn't make it right.

 

[Guy]

If anybody on here wants to voice their feelings about whats going on, you can do that here

More models are saying they appear in the new series without their consent, and apparently Hot Girls Wanted even shows some model's REAL NAMES and their personal facebook pages! WTF This just keeps getting worse. I encourage more people to email Netflix with your disapproval!

You can also voice your feelings about whats going on by writing a user review on IMDB.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6333104/

 

[justjoinedtopost]

This idea may be anathema in a culture that has been taught that voyeurism is a virtue, but is there any reason they couldn't have blurred the faces/other sensitive info from the models that didn't know they were going to be shown?

And why be outraged as a cam model about this, if you are quite ok with mass media doing it day in/day out, to numerous other people who aren't involved in sex work? Hypocritical if you ask me.

 

[Guy]

This idea may be anathema in a culture that has been taught that voyeurism is a virtue, but is there any reason they couldn't have blurred the faces/other sensitive info from the models that didn't know they were going to be shown?

And why be outraged as a cam model about this, if you are quite ok with mass media doing it day in/day out, to numerous other people who aren't involved in sex work? Hypocritical if you ask me.

But what if one or more of those models blocked their state?

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Highly doubtful. A smart person can and will google their favorite cam girl to find them elsewhere. Most of us purposefully keep our user names the same across platforms so that our friends and various users can find us easily.

News flash about everyone thinking it was probably staged or whatever.

WE ARE HUMANS TOO WITH REAL FEELINGS AND EMOTIONS.

I find the whole they aren't allowed to exchange contact info to be incredibly silly. (Not to mention super stupid on the part of Streamate) I went to Twitter and typed in Alice Frost, found the one that I was 95% sure was her, went to Streammate found that she changed her SM name to AliceHole Frost. The whole thing took under a minute, and it's not like googling somebody name requires a degree or even high school diploma to figure out.

Also, I think it is unethical to review something you haven't seen.