A serious question, in the form of a poll

[justjoinedtopost]

Not trying to be snarky here. Dead serious.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

I think it depends a bit on which site. I'm assuming you mainly mean MFC, where I would say chatting/Interacting with rooms. For a site like SM where you have guys popping in and out due to it being a private based site I'd say good cam and lights are more important. For example I'll get guys on SM who sometimes don't want to go private because they think I'm busy if I'm chatting too much...like they've actually said that. I tell them that if I'm in free chat, I'm not busy, but it's definitely way different than on MFC where you WANT to keep the chatter going.

Adding extra to answer my thoughts on the other two- I let members message me first, because frankly I find it rude to do otherwise.

I find wearing less revealing outfits causes members to take me to private more, due to the fact that they can't just sit and fap as easily to a clothed body.

 

[Amberlie_]

I dont think any of those are the most important although good equipment will certainly help. On token sites interacting is also important. Success is subjective - some models may see immediate money as the only defining factor (like I do), others may be using it as a spring board into more mainstream modelling, or as a way to gain notoriety to utilise in selling themselves or their services in some other way, and some may only cam on the side fora little pocket money or for fun. The things that help towards success will therefore be different in each case.

There is no one size fits all "successful camgirl". For eg I am already "sucessful" in making a lot of money from camming and having bought, invested, and paid off a lot of things. Being on the right paid chat only sites, and becoming very knowledgeable about my customer's fetishes, and about psychology in general have been far more important in my sucess than chatting to (mainly) freeloaders on token sites. My cam, lighting, and equipment have certainly helped but are not the defining factors. Showing anything for free, especially pussy, would NOT have helped. I spend a good amount of time interacting with people who have spent a lot on me, but giving this extra attention to people who have not spent, would be detrimental since I could be using that time more efficiently on a sure thing.

If I were to write this poll id probably have the choices as
A) there is no right answer as sucessful is subjective
B) knowing your target market inside out
C) Marketing
D) awareness of psychology and sales

Of course all the above are totally biased toward by own definition of "sucess" as a camgirl

 

[MDouble00]

I mean obviously it is making sure your vagina is showing. However, I went with option one. I only use MFC, but I prefer being in a room where the model is talking and interacting with the members. And where the model isn't just sitting there like a statue.

I understand that sometimes a room can just be dead and no matter what the model tries she isn't getting a response from the members.

I contrast this to the models that seem to feel that they can just lay in bed or sit down in front of the camera and be non engaging and expect tips to flow in.

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

Being interactive and entertaining can often overcome many other obstacles a camgirl may face, so I chose that.

Obviously non nude models do just fine so 'vagina' showing isn't important.
Pming guys who have tipped - this only helps... sometimes? And going after dudes who have tokens showing is usually LESS than helpful.
Good camera/lighting is a close #2. I chose the first option because if you're interactive and chatty with a shitty set up, you are still likely to do better than if you're not interactive but have a stellar light and cam set up.

I based my responses on MFC

 

[mynameisbob84]

If I was to compile a completely subjective list of the most important things when it comes to camming success (that's been compiled exclusively from watching cams and reading what models and members have to say here and never having actually cammed myself and thus should probably be taken with a grain of salt, innit) it would look like this...

• Looks - It sounds shallow, but before a member even steps foot in a girl's room, they have to first be attracted physically to her.
• Personality/interactivity/attitude - Being physically attractive will always bring members in to a room, but it's a model's personality and how they choose to interact with that room that will determine how long those members stick around, and whether or not they tip.
• Lighting/sound/presentation - A model could be as beautiful as Monroe and as funny as Murray, but if their camming setup means that it looks and sounds like they're broadcasting from the Lego Dimension in the dead of night while Nickelback are performing a nearby concert, it's all for naught
• Strong content/countdowns/tipping incentives - While a model's regulars might be tipping "just because", most members will require a reason to tip - finishing a countdown to a show that sounds appealing, videos, pic sets, raffles with interesting prizes, whatever it may be, it needs to be something that members will want and it needs to be priced accordingly.
• Marketing/social media presence - Building a following, letting everyone know of your camming schedule and any changes to it, interacting with regulars and potential regulars off-site, it all adds up
• Up-to-date profile - Maybe not the most important thing, but an informative, attractive profile with any current deals, raffles, incentives, an up-to-date list of videos with prices and previews, a list of likes/dislikes that convey the model's personality, a tip menu, links to social media/clipstores/blogs, an accurate schedule listing, effective tags and a unique look will only help a model.

 

[Gen]

Of your choices, I picked interactive; my second choice would be good lighting. The other two aren't very important in my opinion.

Personally I think the most important factors (in order) are looks, personality/persona (different in my mind but I think one can make up for another), equipment quality.
Everything else, like good content or work ethic or whatever, obviously factors in but is secondary to being hot and endearing in decent lighting, imo.

(Also taking this as MFC-based.)

 

[MDouble00]

I want to add to my original response that my "obviously" showing vagina was in jest but sarcasm doesn't always come across in text. Of the choices presented interaction was the strongest with the lighting being a solid second option. The other two options don't really line up with them.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

If I were to write this poll id probably have the choices as
A) there is no right answer as sucessful is subjective
B) knowing your target market inside out
C) Marketing
D) awareness of psychology and sales

Of course all the above are totally biased toward by own definition of "sucess" as a camgirl

That is an excellent fucking answer. B, C, and D especially.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Being interactive and entertaining can often overcome many other obstacles a camgirl may face, so I chose that.

Obviously non nude models do just fine so 'vagina' showing isn't important.
Pming guys who have tipped - this only helps... sometimes? And going after dudes who have tokens showing is usually LESS than helpful.
Good camera/lighting is a close #2. I chose the first option because if you're interactive and chatty with a shitty set up, you are still likely to do better than if you're not interactive but have a stellar light and cam set up.

I based my responses on MFC

Your response means a lot to me. I have been a deadbeat freeloading guest in your room a few times, and anyone who has figured out how to get tips for blowing up balloons knows what the fuck she is talking about.

Good luck with the 160,000 tokens. I hope you get it, and then some.

If any models out there stumble across your post, and they are wondering why they can only manage 300 tokens for spreading their labia for 4 hours, they would do well to pay close attention to your words.

 

[missrosexox]

Being white and skinny and conventionally pretty helps a lot.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

I think it depends a bit on which site. I'm assuming you mainly mean MFC, where I would say chatting/Interacting with rooms.

Yes, this pertains to CB and MFC.

Also, I agree with the bit about PM'ing the members first. Good way to make somebody feel bad. If I don't have tokens, I feel guilty.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Being white and skinny and conventionally pretty helps a lot.

Well, don't let the fact that you only got 2 out of 3 hold you back. Shoot for the stars bb.

 

[missrosexox]

Well, don't let the fact that you only got 2 out of 3 hold you back. Shoot for the stars bb.

I was acknowledging the disproportionate obstacles for BBW models and women of color in an industry obsessed with conventional standards of beauty. You asked a serious question; I answered it. I wasn't trying to sound snarky. Have a nice day, dear.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

I was acknowledging the disproportionate obstacles for BBW models and women of color in an industry obsessed with conventional standards of beauty. You asked a serious question; I answered it. I wasn't trying to sound snarky. Have a nice day, dear.

I know, I know. Sorry. Couldn't help myself. I try to keep my trolling to a minimum these days, but your post was just too much for me to pass up.

Iarta-ma te rog.

 

[Amberlie_]

Being white and skinny and conventionally pretty helps a lot.

I'd say I fit this description pretty much, but i Suck at token sites. So it's not necessarily true that these are important factors. Personality seems far more key on mfc especially.

 

[Ambers Troll]

For me I think, ethical, interesting, and amazing at communication (some form of sexual expression in particular) is key to a successful cam model.

 

[Empress Mika]

I consider myself successful and I have experience camming on nearly every cam site available. For me personally, and I realize my experiences may likely be different than many because I am non-nude, my success isn't primarily about interacting with my room. It used to be but, as @xKatieBabyx has stated, a model could very well end up giving too much energy and time without compensation. I've since moved on from this approach and instead just sit, relax, hang out, and play games.

For me, it's about interacting on a one-on-one basis with an individual member or small group of members. These connections stay, even while I am in free chat and what have you. This sounds like SM (and I do cam on there) but it also works on token sites for me as well. Privates, PMing, messaging and off site contact are my main methods. I have stated before to "make friends, not tokens" in some of my advice threads in the models only area and this philosophy still holds true for me. I feel this can easily get this mixed up with "just talking to those that have tokens" or "only talking to a member and maintaining a friendship for tokens" and neither of these are what I mean. Maintaining a balance between not spending too much off site time, ensuring not to get "too close" in sharing personal information, and not coming only to rely on a few members but still actively seek new tippers - these are all pieces of the puzzle to keep in mind, of course, but it should seamless and it will be with the right people.

Therefore, I wasn't able to vote in your poll because nothing matched but.. yeah ^_^;

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

Your response means a lot to me. I have been a deadbeat freeloading guest in your room a few times, and anyone who has figured out how to get tips for blowing up balloons knows what the fuck she is talking about.

Good luck with the 160,000 tokens. I hope you get it, and then some.

If any models out there stumble across your post, and they are wondering why they can only manage 300 tokens for spreading their labia for 4 hours, they would do well to pay close attention to your words.

The balloon thing isn't that crazy - a while back i was posted on a balloon fetish forum and so all the a balloon fetish people know I take tips for balloon blowing and popping. I keep a selection of their fav sizes on hand. Because size matters if you have a balloon fetish, apparently.

next time don't be a guest! Chatters are much appreciated

 

[Gen]

I'd say I fit this description pretty much, but i Suck at token sites. So it's not necessarily true that these are important factors. Personality seems far more key on mfc especially.

I still think Rose is right to say it helps. The way I see it, being conventionally pretty doesn't make you successful, but the girls who ARE successful are generally conventionally pretty.

It's like Hollywood - being beautiful isn't enough to make you a successful actress, it's essentially a bare minimum because pretty much every successful actress is beautiful. But to get to that point, yeah, most likely being conventionally good looking is going to help.

if we think of Miss MFC as a measure of success, the vast majority of the girls are conventionally attractive, as well as being charming, fun, creative, hard working, engaging, etc. There are fucktons of unattractive women who are also charming, fun, etc but they're not going to draw as big of a crowd.

I think sometimes people get defensive or weird when it's said that you have to be baseline pretty conventionally hot to do well, but it's a visual medium. It always just kind of seemed like an obvious fact to me, at least on MFC? It doesn't mean you don't have to work hard or be awesome in fifty other ways; it's just a baseline starting point to attract the broadest crowd possible.

To be honest, in some ways, camming offers more options to non-conventionally-hot girls than other industries -- there is a bigger market than any of us could ever dream of for every kind of model. BBW porn, for example, is insanely popular. In real life, the highest paying jobs for students (waitressing, bar tending, stripping) wouldn't be as likely to hire a BBW. So camming has been good in that there are practically infinite people looking to buy what I'm selling. I think it can be hard when you are automatically kind of pushed to the margins or considered a niche just because of one aspect. But it's still an industry where not everyone is looking for the same thing and so whatever you are, someone out there is fervently googling looking to find someone exactly like you.

 

[Empress Mika]

I still think Rose is right to say it helps. The way I see it, being conventionally pretty doesn't make you successful, but the girls who ARE successful are generally conventionally pretty.

I think I am considered conventionally beautiful by many so I cannot speak as though I understand the perspective of someone that isn't. However, I can note something very interesting to me that I've lately had to come to terms with (as many models probably already know from the DMP).

My best nights on cam (tips wise) are when I'm dressed down in normal non-sexy clothes, have absolutely no make-up on, and cam in a location that looks really bland without professional lighting. To me, this means that I do not look my best. There's even a yellow undertone to it, as seen here:

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To me, this set up looks really... bad, haha! I used to only cam here when I was taking it easy to just hang out and expected, quite literally, 0 tokens. To think that this is my most successful set up still boggles my mind.

Contrast this to how I used to cam. I would give 500% to my room, perform beautiful fan dancing shows, interact, the works. I have make up on and have good lighting:

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I've tried to make sense of it. Models and members alike have told me the first one is "more inviting" and "brighter" and I look "more obtainable" and "real" as compared to the second image. I mean, wow, the second image takes so much more time and effort both on cam and off cam! I only wish I figured this out, sooner!

For me personally, it messed with my mind. I always thought that looking my absolute best with my hair and make up, wearing sexy outfits and having what I thought to be a great environment with great lighting would be important for my success. Many people in this thread have noted looking good and having a good set up and lighting is important. That's certainly what I thought and tried to always do.

However, at a certain point, it seems to be that looking "too good" and having a set up that is "too good" is a bad thing. When I look my best and cam in an environment that is my best, I do not do as well than when I, quite literally, don't even bother with any of it. It seems as though there are way more guys that are looking to connect with someone they feel is "real". Of course, I'm real in both of my set ups and my personality is the same... but the perception certainly makes a big difference. This could also be because I am non-nude and rely heavily on my friendships for success? Take from it what you will but, for me, looking my best and having what I think to be my best lighting set up is not as successful as just letting everything be.

 

[Nordling]

I don't think any particular quality is "most important." For me, at least, what attracts me and makes me stay is a combination of things...a gestalt. You can't say one is most important because they're all necessary.

Also, there are aspects that I believe are unconscious--that is, the watcher isn't even aware of them but they affect the gestalt.

And . . . to make it even more complicated . . . what combination works for one model, a totally different combination works for another model.

 

[Amberlie_]

This is very true, especially when it comes to Bio pictures and intro videos. Having said that I find a HUGE difference between paid sites and token sites in terms of when you're actually on cam - i cannot go between the two with the same dress and makeup style because my paid chat guys like the full works, stockings, dresses or baby doll, makeup, heels, lipstick (I also feel far sexier and more confident like this), but mfc guys HATE that and just won't tip if I'm at all dolled up! I am still trying to find a balance because lately I've been splitting as many of my sites as I can so dressing for it is difficult lol.

I think I am considered conventionally beautiful by many so I cannot speak as though I understand the perspective of someone that isn't. However, I can note something very interesting to me that I've lately had to come to terms with (as many models probably already know from the DMP).

My best nights on cam (tips wise) are when I'm dressed down in normal non-sexy clothes, have absolutely no make-up on, and cam in a location that looks really bland without professional lighting. To me, this means that I do not look my best. There's even a yellow undertone to it, as seen here:

​

To me, this set up looks really... bad, haha! I used to only cam here when I was taking it easy to just hang out and expected, quite literally, 0 tokens. To think that this is my most successful set up still boggles my mind.

Contrast this to how I used to cam. I would give 500% to my room, perform beautiful fan dancing shows, interact, the works. I have make up on and have good lighting:

​

I've tried to make sense of it. Models and members alike have told me the first one is "more inviting" and "brighter" and I look "more obtainable" and "real" as compared to the second image. I mean, wow, the second image takes so much more time and effort both on cam and off cam! I only wish I figured this out, sooner!

For me personally, it messed with my mind. I always thought that looking my absolute best with my hair and make up, wearing sexy outfits and having what I thought to be a great environment with great lighting would be important for my success. Many people in this thread have noted looking good and having a good set up and lighting is important. That's certainly what I thought and tried to always do.

However, at a certain point, it seems to be that looking "too good" and having a set up that is "too good" is a bad thing. When I look my best and cam in an environment that is my best, I do not do as well than when I, quite literally, don't even bother with any of it. It seems as though there are way more guys that are looking to connect with someone they feel is "real". Of course, I'm real in both of my set ups and my personality is the same... but the perception certainly makes a big difference. This could also be because I am non-nude and rely heavily on my friendships for success? Take from it what you will but, for me, looking my best and having what I think to be my best lighting set up is not as successful as just letting everything be.