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Discussion in 'Ask-a-Model!' started by badassboy, Mar 6, 2019.

  1. ForceTen

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    Yep, if it's an accepted cam site on ACF, I see no reason why it wouldn't have its own section. Aside from Amber being super busy, and not having time to do it.

    But, I'm just a lowly member so what do I know or think. ;) :p
     
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  2. badassboy

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    LOL, Yaaa i get in now never read any post in General cam chat but makes sense . i ask alot of questions on here because i seem to be the go to guy with my member friends , if we are not talking politics, sports or just bull shitting were talking about the ladys, have a good day buddy
     
  3. JigglesJane

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    You should definitely read the general cam threads. Good stuff in there.
     
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  4. ForceTen

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    Just click on "new posts" and start reading topics that interest you. There's a ton of info, and more things come up in conversation in general cam and other threads than could ever be asked in threads like these.
     
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  5. CamGirlJade

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    This is the first time in the whole thread that you have addressed what I said as my feelings and not as an opinion that I never gave. So, yes, you did. I never said you force anyone, I said I don't want to have to do that. That's what it would feel like to me to need to reroute the clientele I find on Streamate in order to get what I feel is a decent payout.

    I am allowed to be happy about whatever I want. It has no affect on anyone. Policy here is not made based on it, nor did I ever say it should be. It's irrelevant. The only thing I really wanted to say is that I don't think Streamate is a good site. I want good sites to get the most attention. I don't see anything wrong with that. I don't think it's unfair. You being offended doesn't change how I feel. If you tried to gently change my mind on whether or not Streamate is a good site (the actual issue) without trying to just shame me into feeling differently, we might get somewhere.

    You don't know anything about me, and if you addressed me in a reasonable way, I would be happy to learn that Streamate actually is a good site, one that is fair to ALL of their models. Why don't they provide the gold show feature to everyone? This isn't about an approach that I like or not, like a private based site versus a public based site, it's about whether or not I think it's a site that's fair and that is a good representation of the camming industry as a whole. You definitely do not get it.

    Putting words in my mouth, quoting me and saying my name like you're trying to talk to a toddler, and telling me what I know (when I actually don't) comes across as incredibly arrogant and condescending to me. I do think you've been acting as though I am unreasonable, and you only further illustrated the point by going off about how I've got a "bad attitude" and a closed mind, one that's not worth trying to reason with.

    Obviously feel free to disagree with the actual opinions that I give. I appreciate logical discourse. But I'm done having a pissing match here because I made the mistake of expressing my personal feelings about only wanting to see what I've been led to believe are good camming sites represented. Apparently you're not going to explain you're POV because I've got a bad attitude and I'm closed minded, so I don't know why you are rhetorically asking whether you can or not. Obviously you're welcome to explain your POV on the actual opinions that I give as well. It would just be nice, and actually helpful, if you didn't insult me.
     
  6. CamGirlJade

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    I never said it shouldn't. Nor did I ever say I'm happiest when sites that "fit my hustle" get more representation. I'm happiest when sites that I think are fair to all of their models get more representation. As major cam sites here with their own sections here, those are the ones that newbies will try out first. The ones that get used the most end up representing the cam industry as a whole the most.
     
  7. CamGirlJade

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    I don't have to use their revshare program in order to get a decent payout. Manyvids has one too. Most sites do. I'm saying that I think that having to try to hustle people to signup under your link in order to get a decent payout is tacky, not using a whitelabel while you stream in general.
     
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  8. JoleneBrody

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    Off topic sorry but I didn’t know Manyvids has a revshare program!?! Do you mind sharing some info?
     
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  11. Brett M

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    Ok my bad.
     
  12. JoleneBrody

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    It’s ok, I appreciate the link still but SMuser is right.
     
  13. CamGirlJade

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    For every model you get signed up you get 5% of their earnings for life. Check out earnings>MV Revshare. Out of the blue @CurvyJ messaged me and signed up under me. I get tidbits of her earnings without any cost to her. I'm happy to promote her to my following in exchange. Pornhub does something similar I believe. I realized I don't feel great about advertising my links, as the internet is full of enough affiliate marketing already, but the option is there. When people come here asking about a mentor I think that's when they become valuable tools. Why would anyone want to mentor someone? Monies!
     
  14. JoleneBrody

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    Yeah I thought you meant like a true revshare program for paying members, not referred models. Thank you though!
     
  15. CamGirlJade

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    They market themselves as open to whatever models want, within reason, so maybe if enough people pitched it to them they will offer that as well. Most sites have a limit on it though, you only get money for the first 500 tokens spent or whatever, as it's just an extra bonus thing. But the 5% they offer on models is a bonus for life, on top of the 60-80% they pay. It's too bad their site is constantly full of glitches.
     
  16. AudriTwo

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    It's called affiliate marketing. With the benefits of social media, you are able to direct your traffic. Because sm has a great affiliate program where we have constant new traffic. Streamate sees the benefit, and rewards their models. I truthfully haven't fully taken advantage of up until a year ago. When I was on my game I made a fuck ton of money only 25 hours a week just streaming. Barely sold vvideos. I got a decent payout without doing any that. I now make a 1/3 of model earnings from people signing up through my link. I get 20% when members spend on other models. So I'm making money doing nothing. I logged on after taking a couple days off and already was at goal for the day.

    It's not tacky. It's a business strategy that works. I think it's tacky to insult another model's hustle, because that's what you are doing. Every site is different and requires different strategy.
     
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  17. ShinyFork

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    This comes off as impossibly rude. A girl dances for hours and hours and you have the audacity to tell her she's "boring"? Tip for something then. What, exactly, do you expect to see in a cam room? If she's sitting there, she's boring. If she's on her phone, she's boring. If she's talking about current events, she's boring. Now if she's dancing she's boring? Sounds like you expect HBO, not a cam girl.

    As for girl's pricing, there are girls priced extremely low and girls that are high. Find someone that suits your taste instead of going for a high end girl and trying to nickel and dime her. We price ourselves after a lot of thought and consideration. When you grow marketable tits, you can have a say on how you price them.

    Member input is great when it's framed as "Hey, have you thought about doing a raffle?" but literally sitting there whining about prices (indicating you're a low/non tipper) and then trying to showboat how she's boring and should do x,y,z is out of line. If the girl didn't know about spanks as an option she obviously never took ten minutes to research camming.

    This just comes off as those predatory new girl stalkers who try to get off on some false authority and undercutting naive girls.

    I only read the first couple of posts so many someone else said this.
     
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  18. CatOwned

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    I can't believe nobody owns the URL marketabletits.com.
     
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  19. JigglesJane

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    No one else said this. I wasn't sure how to frame the point, myself. You've done it perfect! Thank you!
     
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  20. CamGirlJade

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    I'm aware of what affiliate marketing is. I still think it's tacky. Everyone and their dog has a revshare link that they're pushing on the internet these days. I tried it, and it didn't feel good. I also think that the banner ads on Chaturbate are tacky, and Pornhub for that matter. It's not a big deal. If you want to take my little old opinions super personally, go nuts, but don't try to censor people and talk down to them because you're sensitive. I'm still open to hearing about other reasons that might change my view on whether or not Streamate actually is a good representation of the camming world (the original subtopic), but so far this thread has just descended into a bunch of high school level bullshit.
     
  21. Emberblaze

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    There you have it folks. Promoting your business is tacky. Posting your revshare links is tacky :haha: I mean, it's not like our Twitter accounts are where we advertise or anything... Oh wait. It is. :rofl:

    Television commercials, billboards, YouTube ads that all tacky too?

    The world runs on advertising. Self promotion isn't tacky. If you don't like it, just don't do it. Telling other models their hustle is tacky though... That's definitely tacky and probably also high school level bullshit :haha:
     
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  22. CamGirlJade

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    Affiliate marketing is a specific kind of marketing, unlike other marketing. You can't lump it in with the rest like it's the same. If you try to come at people with affiliate marketing in real life, they look at you like you're part of a pyramid scheme and stay 10 yards away from you. If you don't feel the same way I feel about it, that's fine, but seriously, stop trying to shut down my opinions because they offend you. That's the high school level bullshit that I'm talking about, and 99% of what I've gotten in this thread. That's on top of having words put in my mouth. No one here seems interested in actually having a discussion, so I'm done. If anyone wants to message me, and actually talk about things like sane humans, feel free.
     
  23. Emberblaze

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    Your opinions of not liking affiliate marketing doesn't offend me. You shitting on other models hustles by calling it tacky offends me.
     
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  24. CamGirlJade

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    I was shitting on (or rather trying to warn members/new models about) the website for not giving models what I feel is a decent payout, and many of you have decided to take offence to that because you choose to use that website and/or it's your main hustle. I get it.. but people shit on MFC for camscore all of the time, and I don't attack them for it. Rather than try to change my mind with the facts, people have put words in my mouth and put me on the defense. Now we're nitpicking one little point that was put across. What do you want the outcome of this argument to be? Can it be constructive?

    Maybe what I should have actually said, if we really want to get into it, is that since affiliate marketing can be done by anyone, it has attracted a lot of bad apples. As a result, in my experience, it tends to make people suspicious. People can get the sense that those doing it are only recommending whatever it is they're recommending to their friends/family/acquaintances, or in this case following, for the money, because some people will try to hawk anything for a dollar. Those bad apples have fucked the reputation of that business model. So even if sincere people are doing it, it can come off as insincere, which is tacky. I also really dislike it when websites don't have their own traffic/require models to drive traffic. I don't mind a little self promotion, but I am not interested in needing it. I know Streamate has other ways of driving traffic, but I haven't seen any benefit from it.

    I'm interested in hearing about any of the other things about SM that are good, that might change my original feelings on it, but an affiliate program unfortunately doesn't help, at all. Especially not in the way that it was presented.
     
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  25. Emberblaze

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    Let me PM you something that might change your mind.
     
  26. DJ_Pioneer

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    I don't know what channels you watch on YouTube, but affiliate marketing through links has been a thing for years over there it is not just a porn site thing, even Amazon has an affiliate program.
     
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