Facebook allowing nudity if you're famous

[TacoBelle]

So a friend of mine sent me this:


"Flea -bassist from RHCP- uploaded a picture on Facebook that shows his penis. I'm a complete supporter in allowing breastfeeding pictures or even female nipples on Facebook/instagram, but I feel like the actual genitals of both sexes needs to be blocked from potentially being seen by children. If they incorporated a "spoiler" system, where you have to verify that you're 18 to view it, that's fine. Anyway, I have never reported a picture to FB before, but I did this one. Got this bullshit in response.




And here's the actual photo. Warning: shows penis.
"



Is it just me or are there major double-standards? That is obviously a peni. Most definitely.

 

[Shaun__]

So a friend of mine sent me this:


"Flea -bassist from RHCP- uploaded a picture on Facebook that shows his penis. I'm a complete supporter in allowing breastfeeding pictures or even female nipples on Facebook/instagram, but I feel like the actual genitals of both sexes needs to be blocked from potentially being seen by children. If they incorporated a "spoiler" system, where you have to verify that you're 18 to view it, that's fine. Anyway, I have never reported a picture to FB before, but I did this one. Got this bullshit in response.


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And here's the actual photo. Warning: shows penis.
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Is it just me or are there major double-standards? That is obviously a peni. Most definitely.

Everyone knows if a photo is in black and white that it is artistic not pornographic.

 

[dilligaf0]

So a friend of mine sent me this:


"Flea -bassist from RHCP- uploaded a picture on Facebook that shows his penis. I'm a complete supporter in allowing breastfeeding pictures or even female nipples on Facebook/instagram, but I feel like the actual genitals of both sexes needs to be blocked from potentially being seen by children. If they incorporated a "spoiler" system, where you have to verify that you're 18 to view it, that's fine. Anyway, I have never reported a picture to FB before, but I did this one. Got this bullshit in response.


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And here's the actual photo. Warning: shows penis.
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Is it just me or are there major double-standards? That is obviously a peni. Most definitely.

And another reason I don't facebook.

 

[Gen]

Facebook always sends the same email about "we found it doesn't violate our community standards", I've seen that for rape and death threats a lot. Facebook has terrible community management. I wonder how much review actually happens.

I read an article about a year ago about how social media networks employ cheap labour (usually oversees) to monitor user uploads and remove the bad stuff. The people doing it would see decapitations, violent child porn, animal abuse, etc regularly and have to try to block it all as quickly as possible. The burnout is obviously high but a lot of people couldn't afford not to do it. Really hard stuff.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Is it just me or are there major double-standards? That is obviously a peni. Most definitely.

I just can't stop thinking it should be called a Fleanis.

 

[zippypinhead]

If this actually happened (I'm not one to trust much of anything that Facebook friends send me, especially when it concerns controversial issues, like #freethenipple) I would imagine that this is not about being famous. Plenty of famous ladies have had topless pics recently and rather loudly removed from sites like Facebook and Instagram, after all. If anything, this is probably a case where whatever automated software is in place to catch this sort of stuff is just a lot more finely attuned to spotting bare boobs than it is to spotting dick.

 

[Teagan]

Last month I reported a post of a picture where it was several males naked and bottomless. They were all facing away and it was butts and not peen but still violated the TOS for sure. FBs reply to me was it didnt violate their standards. Such horse shit. It wasnt artistic or anything either so there was no excuse. As someone who had a pic removed and account deleted before for simply having a pic of me in a thong (not bent over even but just a thong shot of myself, I was fully covered) it's absurd of how 7 male bare asses is somehow okay instead.

 

[AerynShade]

Sounds similar to how Twitter ignores dick pics but will totally shut down a cam model's account for no reason at all.

 

[Ginger.Liqueur]

It's an awful double standard.

If anything, this is probably a case where whatever automated software is in place to catch this sort of stuff is just a lot more finely attuned to spotting bare boobs than it is to spotting dick.

A friend on mine posted a picture where she's wearing jeans and a sheer top. You could vaguely make out her nipples if you blew the image up but definitely wasn't the focus of the picture. It was removed for violating the ToS. She re-took the image but wore neon coloured pasties underneath (to emphasize her nipples although they were more covered than before) and it was also pulled down. It's like the software is programed to search through the images of anyone who identifies as female but only recognizes male anantomy when it's extremely obvious or has been reported first.

 

[fandango]

It's an awful double standard.



A friend on mine posted a picture where she's wearing jeans and a sheer top. You could vaguely make out her nipples if you blew the image up but definitely wasn't the focus of the picture. It was removed for violating the ToS. She re-took the image but wore neon coloured pasties underneath (to emphasize her nipples although they were more covered than before) and it was also pulled down. It's like the software is programed to search through the images of anyone who identifies as female but only recognizes male anantomy when it's extremely obvious or has been reported first.

I'd bet it might even be as simple as they only turn it on for a female account. It would be interesting to see if she changed her gender to male or just got a guy to post it up if the same pic would be automatically removed.

Whatever is behind it the whole situation is ridiculous though

 

[TacoBelle]

Update: apparently enough people reported it that it got taken down, finally.

 

[Guy]

The analyst who reviewed the photo must have been really out of it that day.

 

[weirdbr]

I'd bet it might even be as simple as they only turn it on for a female account. It would be interesting to see if she changed her gender to male or just got a guy to post it up if the same pic would be automatically removed.

It's a bit unlikely - if anything, I'd turn on the filter for accounts of male users simply because the majority of online porn is posted by men.

The answer might be simply because detecting nipples is easier than dicks - in fact, one of our earliest implementations of nipple detection was a lightly modified 'red eye' detection algorithm and it worked really well.

 

[Ginger.Liqueur]

The answer might be simply because detecting nipples is easier than dicks - in fact, one of our earliest implementations of nipple detection was a lightly modified 'red eye' detection algorithm and it worked really well.

That would also explain why her image was removed the second time. The pasties essentially acted like a highlighter for the automated system to pick up.

 

[Miss_Steamshow]

Flea's cock isn't nudity. It's a cultural phenomenon.

 

[Jesse0328]

Not that it's excusable, but a large social media site like that probably gets so many TOS violation reports, that it's basically a crapshoot whether something gets enforced or not. There might be an algorithm catching the obvious stuff but if human review is involved, then you have a human making hundreds, if not thousands of decisions per day of what's obscene or not.