Help! My first video

[SouthernRose]

So this fellow has been asking me to do a girlfriend experience video. It is my first video ever! I told him that. He wants it custom, saying his name, he wants full cum with toys.
He wants it to be 10 to 15. I said since I'm new I'll do $50 for ten minutes to 20 minutes, thinking I was being reasonable.
He is balking, saying he is use to paying $25.
Am I being unreasonable?

 

[Vera]

No. Industry standard is $10 per minute. If you are a total newb and working with a webcam/non HD equipment I'd only go as low as $7 per minute. He's a cheapass trying to take advantage of you.

Most serious buyers have no issue buying at $10 per minute. Custom porn is a luxury. The dudes who don't respect your rates are more likely to give you trouble in the long run.

 

[PrincessMilfx]

He is lowballing you. I do little strip tease videos on a sale like if i need fast cash 1 song for 25$ they come out to about 4 mins & like only flashing & dancing. Custom & fetish up to 10 mins should go around $ 100 & thats really depending on what the fetish is. I tell guys my rates start at 5$ a min....when they start adding requests( name), nudity, dildos or fetish then the price goes up accordingly. ...i think im a little on the cheap end too.

 

[SouthernRose]

No. Industry standard is $10 per minute. If you are a total newb and working with a webcam/non HD equipment I'd only go as low as $7 per minute. He's a cheapass trying to take advantage of you.

Most serious buyers have no issue buying at $10 per minute. Custom porn is a luxury. The dudes who don't respect your rates are more likely to give you trouble in the long run.

I Was thinking that. I asked him to clarify exactly what he wanted to make sure I am charging him correctly.
Also, hat gif in your signature line cracks me up. What is that from?

 

[a_haze420]

Agree with everything vera said. I charge 10$ per minute minimum. Any crazy requests outfit changes fetishes etc I add more to it. He is being a cheapskate. Even as a brand new model with just a webcam and some crap lighting I charged 7$ per minute and as soon as I upgraded my equipment my price went up too.

 

[Vera]

I know it's easy to be intimidated when you first start out, but it is much easier to lower your prices than it is to raise them. (Not that I recommend ever lowering your rates.)

@SouthernRose It's from Me!Me!Me!, an amazing mindfuck of a music video/short-form anime with a ton of references to Neon Genesis Evangelion. It starts slow but builds toward glorious WTF-ery. The tiddy guns are toward the end.

 

[SouthernRose]

I know it's easy to be intimidated when you first start out, but it is much easier to lower your prices than it is to raise them. (Not that I recommend ever lowering your rates.)

@SouthernRose It's from Me!Me!Me!, an amazing mindfuck of a music video/short-form anime with a ton of references to Neon Genesis Evangelion. It starts slow but builds toward glorious WTF-ery. The tiddy guns are toward the end.

OMG I Love this! It is just so weird and twisted

 

[SouthernRose]

Agree with everything vera said. I charge 10$ per minute minimum. Any crazy requests outfit changes fetishes etc I add more to it. He is being a cheapskate. Even as a brand new model with just a webcam and some crap lighting I charged 7$ per minute and as soon as I upgraded my equipment my price went up too.

Thank you. I don't feel so bad

 

[Innocent_Intentions]

When I was new to making videos, I charged $35 for 5 minutes and $45 for 10. It went up depending on what else was wanted. Even at those prices I would get people telling me I was charting too much. Now that I know more, I charge at least $50 (depending on the content for 5 minutes and $100 for 10. Double it If they want my fiancé involved. There are many cheapskates. Know your worth and stick to it!

 

[yummybrownfox]

So this fellow has been asking me to do a girlfriend experience video. It is my first video ever! I told him that. He wants it custom, saying his name, he wants full cum with toys.
He wants it to be 10 to 15. I said since I'm new I'll do $50 for ten minutes to 20 minutes, thinking I was being reasonable.
He is balking, saying he is use to paying $25.
Am I being unreasonable?

You are absolutely not being unreasonable. In fact, I charge 1,000 tokens or $100 for a 10-minute custom video. I’m pretty sure I once saw a model on Streamate charging $25 for a custom video, and I thought But wouldn’t that only be $8.75 in her pocket? I don’t see how that’s even worth it. Custom videos are a pain in the ass to do.

Let him balk all he wants. As I said on here a few days ago in another post, this is not a yard sale, and guys should not expect cam models to be price negotiating with them. This is adult entertainment.

 

[AriAngel]

When I first starting doing customs, I lowballed myself too. Then my boyfriend said this to me:

Consider this. Your customer is paying for premium porn. This is the best they can get. They get to pick the girl. They get to pick what she does. What she says. What she wears. Premium stuff comes at a premium price.

This is the difference between going to a restaurant and buying a meal VS having a personal chef make whatever the hell you want.

I'm still kinda lowballing myself, but I like receiving customs so that I can resell them in my ManyVids store. If someone asks me to say their name in a vid though, I charge them out the ass because you can't resell it.

Make sure you remember that filming a 10-15 minute clip takes WAAAY longer than that. Consider: the time it takes to get ready (for me about ~1 hr), time to set up the background or props or whatever (~20 mins), getting 15 minutes of usable footage usually takes me over an hour, editing the video (again, this can take up to an hour or more if you're more creative with it)
And then you also have to take into consideration the money you've spent on your equipment (camera, lights, clothes, toys, etc) AND also keep in mind that this isn't a regular job. There is a lot of risk involved with being a sex worker. Put that into consideration when pricing your vids as well.

Hope this helps

 

[SouthernRose]

So I explained to him politely what the industry standard was, the amount of work that goes into a video, and that he was really lucky to have someone quote such a great price for a custom vid.
About two hours later me messaged me again and agreed to pay 50 dollars for the ten minute video.
Negotiating is hard. I want to please and I am always second guessing myself.
Thank you so much for the help! I couldn't have done it without the support.

 

[AriAngel]

So I explained to him politely what the industry standard was, the amount of work that goes into a video, and that he was really lucky to have someone quote such a great price for a custom vid.
About two hours later me messaged me again and agreed to pay 50 dollars for the ten minute video.
Negotiating is hard. I want to please and I am always second guessing myself.
Thank you so much for the help! I couldn't have done it without the support.

Great job!! Negotiating IS hard, but it pays off. You can't let guys boss you around.

 

[Ivy Adams]

Good for you for messaging him and letting him know!

What helps me when I price things out is to not only think about the actual customization of the video, learning the outline/script if they have one, setting the scene etc., but I calculate my time and then I figure out based off what I'm going to be making hourly from the custom once all is said and done. Regardless of what equipment or how new you may be, never forget that your time is your most valuable product.

If I sell a 10 minute custom at $10/min off MFC then I'm bringing in $50 Net Profit for a 10 minute video.
Assuming a video takes around 2-4 hours to finish everything from filming, to editing, to uploading
Also factor in whether the video has name moaning (I charge a $35 additional flat fee) or exclusivity (I charge a $250 flat fee) because that will determine how re-sellable it is going to be.

So if I am bringing in $50 for a 10 minute video that takes me 4 hours to make start to finish, I am making $12.50 an hour for the video.

If I'm not happy with the amount that my time is making then I adjust my pricing and figure out what DOES make my time worthwhile and brings in a big enough profit margin to make it monetarily worth it.

 

[ElaySmith]

It is my first video ever!

To me this is the perfect excuse to try to mark something up, after all, there can only be one first and especially if that first is in a custom video with a name!

ps. here's another thread you might find helpful

 

[DJ_Pioneer]

Good for you for messaging him and letting him know!

What helps me when I price things out is to not only think about the actual customization of the video, learning the outline/script if they have one, setting the scene etc., but I calculate my time and then I figure out based off what I'm going to be making hourly from the custom once all is said and done. Regardless of what equipment or how new you may be, never forget that your time is your most valuable product.

If I sell a 10 minute custom at $10/min off MFC then I'm bringing in $50 Net Profit for a 10 minute video.
Assuming a video takes around 2-4 hours to finish everything from filming, to editing, to uploading
Also factor in whether the video has name moaning (I charge a $35 additional flat fee) or exclusivity (I charge a $250 flat fee) because that will determine how re-sellable it is going to be.

So if I am bringing in $50 for a 10 minute video that takes me 4 hours to make start to finish, I am making $12.50 an hour for the video.

If I'm not happy with the amount that my time is making then I adjust my pricing and figure out what DOES make my time worthwhile and brings in a big enough profit margin to make it monetarily worth it.

I got curious about the pricing so I checked out the videos that you have uploaded to Pornhub, judging from the production quality that those videos have I would say that the price you charge for your custom videos are more than fair if they are of similar quality.

 

[SouthernRose]

To me this is the perfect excuse to try to mark something up, after all, there can only be one first and especially if that first is in a custom video with a name!

ps. here's another thread you might find helpful

Oh man... I already agreed to do it for $50.