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rock tumbling is a cool hobby. sure it costs money because you need to purchase a tumbler and grit. but for the most part, go for a walk in the woods or along a crick and collect some rocks. rocks cannot emotionally manipulate or seduce you...

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I don't know, I've seen some people get really attached to rocks... :giggle:


Hell, use an old protein shaker or old peanut butter jar with a screw top lid, fill it with sand and shake/tumble it. Cheap, takes care of physical motions and can watch that plain old rock turn into something else... ;)
 
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I don't know, I've seen some people get really attached to rocks... :giggle:


Hell, use an old protein shaker or old peanut butter jar with a screw top lid, fill it with sand and shake/tumble it. Cheap, takes care of physical motions and can watch that plain old rock turn into something else... ;)
when i was a kid, that's what we would do. no wonder i used to be able to do pull-ups. we were shaking cans of rocks for hours.

hell get in shape and a kick-ass rock collection. win/win
 
when i was a kid, that's what we would do. no wonder i used to be able to do pull-ups. we were shaking cans of rocks for hours.

hell get in shape and a kick-ass rock collection. win/win

You missed out on marketing that motion... ;)

 
I don't appreciate being guilt tripped, especially since we're not in a relationship. Told her if I wanted that kind of treatment, I'd have stayed with my ex.

Would call that the Psycho GFE.

Well, I think I've never mentioned it, but in my case, what was even worse is that I just logged into the chat to tip and say hi. And the reason was because she had told me she was going to change her schedule for whatever reason, I don't remember now - just had thought to do somenthing since. But, as more often than not happens in life, you think to do somenthing nice and then everything goes to shit. I mean, go figure.

I explicitly had told her I wasn't 100% sure if I was going to be able to see her. So I just tipped and said hi. Now, true that I didn't say why I couldn't go private, I mean, I could have pm'd the reason but the shitshow happend.

And the reason was only because I was on my fuck*ng phone at 6.30 am off to take a taxi to go take a fuck*ng flight. Only thing I was thinking that moment was: "If you ever think I'm willing to deal with your shit, you are tripping".

My personal opinion and I agree with what you've said: not only in camming but in sexwork in general - done at a certain level of course - and in life in general it's always more about chemistry, relationships, interactions, respect, boundaries and such, which btw leads to repeated business. It's alway more than look and sex, at least for me.


I can always find a new girl.
Bingo. Didn't know what "aheago" means. Had to look it up. Well, I guess you learn something new everyday.
 
Would call that the Psycho GFE.

Well, I think I've never mentioned it, but in my case, what was even worse is that I just logged into the chat to tip and say hi. And the reason was because she had told me she was going to change her schedule for whatever reason, I don't remember now - just had thought to do somenthing since. But, as more often than not happens in life, you think to do somenthing nice and then everything goes to shit. I mean, go figure.

I explicitly had told her I wasn't 100% sure if I was going to be able to see her. So I just tipped and said hi. Now, true that I didn't say why I couldn't go private, I mean, I could have pm'd the reason but the shitshow happend.

And the reason was only because I was on my fuck*ng phone at 6.30 am off to take a taxi to go take a fuck*ng flight. Only thing I was thinking that moment was: "If you ever think I'm willing to deal with your shit, you are tripping".

My personal opinion and I agree with what you've said: not only in camming but in sexwork in general - done at a certain level of course - and in life in general it's always more about chemistry, relationships, interactions, respect, boundaries and such, which btw leads to repeated business. It's alway more than look and sex, at least for me.


I don't think it's necessary to say why one doesn't want, or can't, do a private with a model. But, sometimes they're very persistent and unfortunately they act such we've experienced. With this particular model, we usually get along quite well, and have over the years we've known each other. Only been a couple of times where something like this has come up with her, and the last time was about two years ago. If it happens again though, won't be another.

The thing that gets me about this is she knows I visit a couple of other models, and had done privates with most of the models in her old studio before she changed studios (she said the old one was closed down for some reason). She seems okay when it's not models in her studio. But, it feels like she's possessive when it's models she knows.


But, as you and others have mentioned, time spent on a cam site is meant to be enjoyable and not stressful such as has happened recently. Which, I completely agree with and is why my list of models tends to not grow, as like you it's about chemistry and respect in my interactions with models and is why I keep going back to the same models.


Bingo. Didn't know what "aheago" means. Had to look it up. Well, I guess you learn something new everyday.

I had to look it up too. I've seen it before, just never realized there was a term for it.
 
I had to look it up too. I've seen it before, just never realized there was a term for it.
Me too! I was dombfounded, then realized I am just to old to know about it. Seems like an invasion of Japanese anime culture! I'm in for the tentacle stuff but not the Ahegao.. brrrrrrrrr
 
Don't buy that. She's bullshitting you. She's possessive about your tokens.

Oh yeah, definitely what I was referring to on being possessive. ;) I think she gets more visibly upset when it's a model she knows, and makes me wonder if she confronts them saying I'm off-limits to them? Come to think of it, I know she did it with a different model in the past who told me that happened and quit over it.

Thinking about it further, there was also another one I used to visit prior to the one I've been talking about. She told me how since the one started, she felt like she got pushed to the side and eventually just quit.

I'm seeing a pattern here and may need to rethink this...
 
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LOL Is this Eli speaking or the Gordon Ramsay in you? Of course you are right, though. The whole problem burns down to the fact that so many guys develop an emotional link to their models. Maybe I am lucky that this has never happened to me, or I am just better able to keep my feelings in check. OP's situation is already fucked up (OP, I am not judging you here!) when he talks about friendship and those extra long talks. Why did he and her even take it that far? All those other guys who fell in love or had/have a friendship with a cam model, visited a model not for sex in the first place. The sex is just a catalyst to burn away their feelings of loneliness.
As so many of you sex workers stated, it is not always only about sex. I think it should be, though. I am not here to emotionally support the model (she could pay me for it, but I would only be leading her on) and no model ever should emotionally support me. In my opinion, if you hustle your customers with "I love you.. I need you.." stuff (hope you get what I mean), some customers will not be able to draw the line between fantasy and reality. It is just bound to happen, as it is human! It just doesn't fit into the worldview of many men that a cam model always, and I mean always, refers to his tokens when she says such things.
To members I say: Don't ever let that emotional link develop! She is not your friend, lover, companion, bff, whatever! Your tokens are her friend, and her best lover.
To models I say: Develop that emotional link if you must as a hustle, but don't be surprised if some guys will get attached and eventually get annoying and stalkerish.
If both sides would stick to the business and the sex, those situations could be avoided. But, as we are all humans, this will not happen. I don't think it is ok to call all those misled guys sick stalkers who need a therapist. I think the minority of men and women lead a perfectly "healthy" life with a perspective and a plan, as you say. In fact, I bet a shitload of people nowadays are outright lonesome. Most relationships are nothing but a beautiful mask. The nice house with a garden, wife reclining beside the pool and happy kids climbing the apple tree - it is not true, it never happens, it is just a big facade. Most of us are not cut out to just hide and eat their own darkness, so they seek help and connection, a place to take their personal shit to. We are all connected via the net, and cam models are so easily accessible - cozy and anonymous, from the safety of our homes. I do not think it is astonishing that so many lost souls flock around cam sites. It is the EASIEST place they can try. And they do, and always will.


Spot on, Eli.

The model I visit came up to me with the same bullshit some days ago:
Me: "Good evening. Having fun?"
Her: "Hello."
*silence*
Her: "You lost me!"
Me: "What do you mean, I lost you??"
Her: "You were not here for some days!"
Me: "LOL yeah, I wasn't. So?"
*no reply*
Me: "You look hot tonight. Wanna play?"
Her: "Yes."
Me: "Good. Tell your room you will be gone for an hour, maybe. "

That's all there should be. She knows she will make 2K from the vibes, I know that I pay her so I can masturbate while watching her cum over and over again. Transaction done, where the hell does all this friendship thing fit in?
I agree with you with the fact that camgirl lover shouldn't be all called named like "creepy, stalkers or weirdo".
Now as a person who was for a short period one of those camgirl "lover" I don't think the notion of seeing a therapist should be avoided.

I once became one of thoses lovers not beacause i was naive or unaware about cam business. Because of personal circunstances i developped self esteem issues and felt like i couldn't interract with real world and getting into love fantasies was the easiest things to do. Going to a therapist and working on those self esteem issues the need of runaway from reality is not a bad thing.

For the qustion about cam model who let this happen i don't know how it happens on their side but according to what I've seen it's hard to put a blame on them.
First: it's all about fantasy. The model in pvt session will act as your friend girlfriend or what you've asked for. She can't always say "hey guy remember it's a fantasy". Adult people should know that they buy fantasy.
Other point some model sometimes are instructed (i think about studio model) to give some piece of hope to customers in order to make them regular.

There are models too who sometimes like members have poor boundaries and accidently give too much of themselves and some customer are attached to them

And third point there are some models not all who are consciously trying to make their customer falling in love with them (it's not all models). Because it's easiest.

I think just that camsite should make more honest advertising it would help reducing some issues.
Lot of people register in camsite because they believed it was something like Tinder.
 
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This is just my personal opinion, I don't think it's camsites business to teach people how to be responsible. There's no business who do that and, honestly, it's not their job.
I agree it's not their job. But a lot of times they advertise themselves like dating sites which is not true
 
I agree it's not their job. But a lot of times they advertise themselves like dating sites which is not true
think also that they can be advertised by affiliates who will say whatever to get clicks :/
 
But a lot of times they advertise themselves like dating sites which is not true
Have no idea how camsites are advertised. It could be what @DoD404 has written above. And I surely don't know all the camsites but by just merely looking at how the most popular ones are named, I don't find them to be misleading, they don't use any words like idk "romance", "date", "meet" - and I assume for legal reasons, too.

So, despite what one may or may not think, believe and/or wish, there is the fact that there's nothing, not even in their names, than can hint, evoke or suggest - not even remotely - that they are sites to go to if you are looking for romance and dating.

I have no idea how dating and romance sites and apps are advertised or marketed. I suppose laughing couples running into the sunset together, possibly on a white horse, rolling together on the beach while drawing hearts on the sand or having a drink at a fancy club. I highly doubt camsites and porn sites are advertised that way.
 
First of all, sorry for the double post. But I was just thinking, I mean, Chaturbate, litterally means chat and jerk off. Now, me, personally I've nothing against dates and romance like that, but I never got them through that site.
 
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