Above avg:
Hi! I was a successful MFC model for over a decade, and have since switched to clips in recent years.
I’m going to explain why your proposal is problematic advice:
As someone that cammed successfully with lots of lower cost options for 10 years .. and I guess comparatively “cheap” prices on things…
1. It may generate some extra sales, if you have a room that attracts a high view count.
2. It attracts a type of consumer that can be very pushy, or may treat you badly. There is an air of expectation after tipping small amounts for a while where they expect continued attention. This is generalizing, but it was my experience and I did not realize it was driving away people with bigger budgets.
3. It’s a very quick way to burn out, both physically and mentally.
No one is saying that we should all sit and complain about slowness (though venting is normal and healthy on bad days) and not take any action. There are many tips for models on this forum. When something isn’t working well you have to focus on what you can control and change it up till it works.
What we are saying is that:
1. People who have never cammed before (I’m assuming you have not here?) are not going to have as much knowledge or full understanding on these topics.
2. Following bad Advice can be harmful, both to our industry as a whole as well as a models brand image, mental health etc.
3. When you first arrive in an industry discussion space, handing out advice especially with so little compassion or self awareness will rub people the wrong way.
I made good money on MFC when my prices were cheap. I also made good money when my prices went higher.
As my prices have gone up, the quality of clients has gotten so much better. I’m still very “reasonable” with entry level products but it’s a world of difference.
A cheap fan base will slowly surely suck the LIFE out of you. they’re also the most likely to pirate or share your content btw. The antidote to a slow room may seem easy “lower prices” but price = perceived value and you will be treated as lower value if you price yourself too low.
Thanks for taking the time to write this up.
Ambercutieforum is our water-cooler.
The part visible to all isn't the full story either, most models aren't speaking about their wins publicly because that would be really hard to do in a productive way.
To any other viewers who see this thread, please know that if we weren't overall happy or content we would do what we must to change that. (5 cent sex acts aren't going to happen from people in places where an everyday 3 bedroom house costs over a million dollars this is 1923 and we're worth more than a McNugget **also more than 5c**!)
The public area on this forum is where many models make their first ever posts, they're still working things out and looking for support. (Not OP here, but it's often the case)
This means that what you all see is very different than the models only area where we talk nitty gritty technical stuff, statistics (not me, I have no attention span... looking at MartyTheMagnificent here), health stuff, oh&s, the list goes on and on...but my point is that the average forum visitor is definitely not able to determine if a thread participant is successful, generally happy, generally frustrated, or even if they have a high income or not...they might be focusing on many low effort small income streams, or one or two high effort and high income streams.
Camscore does not equal current or past income level. Don't believe me? Look up threads about mfcodels going for "rank". That said, one model might rank #400 and another #401...they can still be on entirely different incomes, let's say the first worked 300hrs and the second worked 20hrs. The first one made more, yes. But the second one is on a higher hourly rate.
At some point here I got carried away in trying to explain stuff to the random people who will find this thread in the future...
Basically Lacey has put a whole lot of truth into a very readable and approachable post.
Takeaway thought- Never ever assume you know more about a job than those who are professionals at that job. Especially if they're internationally recognized industry members with years of experience!