Miss MFC 2011

[Anonymous]

I can eat a "sea hedgehog thing" and look pretty sexy too. In fact I've been to that same place she's eating that "sea hedgehog thing", known as a sea urchin.......She's swimmin with manatee's in cozumel. I have a picture of me kissing one...and I think I work my ass off too....

 

[Jupiter551]

I can eat a "sea hedgehog thing" and look pretty sexy too. In fact I've been to that same place she's eating that "sea hedgehog thing", known as a sea urchin.......She's swimmin with manatee's in cozumel. I have a picture of me kissing one...and I think I work my ass off too....

Yah, actually urchin is the middle english word for hedgehog, so in fact sea urchin means sea hedgehog, and I think it sounds cooler than urchin.

I'm glad you're working your ass off and I wish you all the success in this magical world etc etc.

All the stuff about "oh it goes with the territory" may be an excuse for jealous sniping, but that doesn't justify it. Make whatever excuses you want about it, at the end of the day throwing around implications of cheating and such about someone you don't know, with no evidence, is pretty low.

American models win and everyone says oh congratulations you really deserved that. Romanian model wins and it's wow, what a scam, what a cheat. And yeah I saw the same accusations of cheating and self-tipping and studio tipping about Crazysysy/Goldenlady months ago before - by models.

 

[SatanJonez]

I can eat a "sea hedgehog thing" and look pretty sexy too. In fact I've been to that same place she's eating that "sea hedgehog thing", known as a sea urchin.......She's swimmin with manatee's in cozumel. I have a picture of me kissing one...and I think I work my ass off too....

Yah, actually urchin is the middle english word for hedgehog, so in fact sea urchin means sea hedgehog, and I think it sounds cooler than urchin.

I'm glad you're working your ass off and I wish you all the success in this magical world etc etc.

All the stuff about "oh it goes with the territory" may be an excuse for jealous sniping, but that doesn't justify it. Make whatever excuses you want about it, at the end of the day throwing around implications of cheating and such about someone you don't know, with no evidence, is pretty low.

American models win and everyone says oh congratulations you really deserved that. Romanian model wins and it's wow, what a scam, what a cheat. And yeah I saw the same accusations of cheating and self-tipping and studio tipping about Crazysysy/Goldenlady months ago before - by models.

While it's true a lot of people suspect foreign models of cheating, it's not true that every American model wins Miss MFC without being bashed on for suspected cheating/scamming/whatever. The Miss MFC contest is kind of like the lottery in a twisted way, cool you won it, that's a lot of money, but it comes at a price (shit talkers, hate coming your way, members not thinking you need to be tipped anymore, etc) Examples.

 

[Keltaric]

It sorta feels like May 2010 all over again.

What happened in May 2010, if its ok to ask?

 

[Mikeythegeek]

It sorta feels like May 2010 all over again.

What happened in May 2010, if its ok to ask?

I'll answer for her since I was a witness to the whole thing.

Amber went for #1 that month, ended up third.

The girl who finished in 1st got a ton of offline tips from friends. To be fair to her, a lot of those guys liked Amber too and were up front with us (meaning Amber and her friends) about the whole thing. To the best of my knowledge, she hadn't been in the top 20 before then and hasn't been there since.

The girl who finished in 2nd played dirty. She lied and deceived members out of tokens (mainly by offering shows that despite making the countdown goal, never happened) and let her members talk shit about Amber and the girl in #1. And while Amber's pretty much forgiven her for that (she's talked about her in positive terms on here in recent months), some of us (meaning me) aren't has forgiving.

 

[AmberCutie]

It sorta feels like May 2010 all over again.

What happened in May 2010, if its ok to ask?

I'll answer for her since I was a witness to the whole thing.

Amber went for #1 that month, ended up third.

The girl who finished in 1st got a ton of offline tips from friends. To be fair to her, a lot of those guys liked Amber too and were up front with us (meaning Amber and her friends) about the whole thing. To the best of my knowledge, she hadn't been in the top 20 before then and hasn't been there since.

The girl who finished in 2nd played dirty. She lied and deceived members out of tokens (mainly by offering shows that despite making the countdown goal, never happened) and let her members talk shit about Amber and the girl in #1. And while Amber's pretty much forgiven her for that (she's talked about her in positive terms on here in recent months), some of us (meaning me) aren't has forgiving.

I'm really only referring to the girl who won. #2 has proven that she can continue to do well and give great shows so she doesn't really fall into my "out of nowhere and back into the shadows" theory. Also to note: v12_ was a present factor in both girls' rooms during the month of their success. This must be his type.

 

[Jupiter551]

Also to note: v12_ was a present factor in both girls' rooms during the month of their success. This must be his type.

Which both girls? both silolita/lovelykittie, averypearl/silolita, or?

 

[AmberCutie]

Also to note: v12_ was a present factor in both girls' rooms during the month of their success. This must be his type.

Which both girls? both silolita/lovelykittie, averypearl/silolita, or?

SiLolita and Avery. Not sure if he was around in Kitties at all. He's just one of those names that you know from huge tips and word traveling through the whole grapevine.

Now that I think about it, they have similar facial features... look somewhat alike.

 

[Jupiter551]

Oh ok, well I asked cos v12 has been one of avery's regulars since...well long before I knew her months ago I guess...it's the only place I know him from.

 

[HaileyJade]

K so I've watched #1 the past few times shes been online. What I've observed is 1) it takes her around 3 hours to get 2000 tokens for a show and 2) I never saw her do privates or groups. Now I'm pretty positive its a studio behind her being #1. Hate me if you want for my opinion, but those are my thoughts.

 

[BullFrogBlues]

Not a studio, a rich premium, v12_, who likes to make relatively unknown models, who he likes, #1. - damn so many comma's. He has done it before. At least this time the chosen one provides a little entertainment with her cooking shows.

I suspect if I was rich I would do the same...

 

[Jupiter551]

Not a studio, a rich premium, v12_, who likes to make relatively unknown models, who he likes, #1. - damn so many comma's. He has done it before.

Well I know nothing about v12_'s tipping habits, nor is it any of my business, I do know he's been one of Avery's room fixtures as long as I've known her (several months), and he's a nice guy.

Not aimed at you BullFrogBlues but, even if it was one rich premium funding her entire "campaign", how many in the top 20 don't have rich members, usually a group of them, holding them there month after month? Like about none? Crazysysy gets 50,000 in a tip - that's not a rich premium? All those models get huge tips, relatively frequently, on or offline, or they wouldn't be there.

2000 token cum shows? Are you joking? How many times do you think those top models do shows a day vs how many tokens they make? There's no way the number of tokens any top 20 model makes has anything to do with public countdowns and shows. The shows create traffic which in turn create incidental tipping, but it's just that - incidental.

The 99% of working class stiffs that make up premium membership in their rooms, all donating $20 a week, is a drop in the bucket compared to how much it takes to stay at the top of that list. Without rich premiums, none of those girls would be there, they'd be just one of the hundreds of pretty, charismatic women on MFC who struggle to make a living each day.

Now I dunno about the rest of you guys, but I can't afford to drop $50 a night on the internet much less $500 or $5000 - so does that make the models I enjoy any less worthy if all her members are average joes like me? I don't think so, but say one of the girls also has a member that can afford to spend a lot more and wants, for once, one of the underdogs to win - is there something wrong with that? And if he tips offline, so what? Yesterday, laughing about all the back and forth about this she told everyone to tip offline from now on. Funny thing - her regulars and high tippers don't tip to see her masturbate in public, they've seen it before and if they want to see it again they'll take her private. You might say "oh it's a pornsite, tips should be for porn" but models should know by now, better than anyone, that guys might tip 200 for tits, and tip 20,000 just because they like a girl.

It's true, AveryPearl isn't one of the usual suspects getting 15k tips cos they "jst so awetheom bb", she's funny, she chills out, she eats pizza nude and cooks weird things, doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks, says whatever the fuck she thinks, isn't American, isn't a plastic barbiedoll with giant silicon tits or a fake smile and her fans are gonna love her at number 1, or number 1000.

Just get over it, like Amber said - be happy for her she's going to make a lot of money this month, as opposed to the other girls in the top 20 who make piles of money EVERY month.

 

[BullFrogBlues]

Not a studio, a rich premium, v12_, who likes to make relatively unknown models, who he likes, #1. - damn so many comma's. He has done it before.

Well I know nothing about v12_'s tipping habits, nor is it any of my business, I do know he's been one of Avery's room fixtures as long as I've known her (several months), and he's a nice guy.

Not aimed at you BullFrogBlues but, even if it was one rich premium funding her entire "campaign", how many in the top 20 don't have rich members, usually a group of them, holding them there month after month? Like about none? Crazysysy gets 50,000 in a tip - that's not a rich premium? All those models get huge tips, relatively frequently, on or offline, or they wouldn't be there.

2000 token cum shows? Are you joking? How many times do you think those top models do shows a day vs how many tokens they make? There's no way the number of tokens any top 20 model makes has anything to do with public countdowns and shows. The shows create traffic which in turn create incidental tipping, but it's just that - incidental.

The 99% of working class stiffs that make up premium membership in their rooms, all donating $20 a week, is a drop in the bucket compared to how much it takes to stay at the top of that list. Without rich premiums, none of those girls would be there, they'd be just one of the hundreds of pretty, charismatic women on MFC who struggle to make a living each day.

Now I dunno about the rest of you guys, but I can't afford to drop $50 a night on the internet much less $500 or $5000 - so does that make the models I enjoy any less worthy if all her members are average joes like me? I don't think so, but say one of the girls also has a member that can afford to spend a lot more and wants, for once, one of the underdogs to win - is there something wrong with that? And if he tips offline, so what? Yesterday, laughing about all the back and forth about this she told everyone to tip offline from now on. Funny thing - her regulars and high tippers don't tip to see her masturbate in public, they've seen it before and if they want to see it again they'll take her private. You might say "oh it's a pornsite, tips should be for porn" but models should know by now, better than anyone, that guys might tip 200 for tits, and tip 20,000 just because they like a girl.

It's true, AveryPearl isn't one of the usual suspects getting 15k tips cos they "jst so awetheom bb", she's funny, she chills out, she eats pizza nude and cooks weird things, doesn't give a fuck what anyone thinks, says whatever the fuck she thinks, isn't American, isn't a plastic barbiedoll with giant silicon tits or a fake smile and her fans are gonna love her at number 1, or number 1000.

Just get over it, like Amber said - be happy for her she's going to make a lot of money this month, as opposed to the other girls in the top 20 who make piles of money EVERY month.

arrrrggghhh so many words, it is what is happening, i am not saying anything against her, i would even do it myself if I had the funds. 15k tips, fark man, 200k tips, offline and multiple times. i wouldn't be surprised if Avery hasn't passed the million mark already due to v12_. If I am wrong, so what? what I am saying is that it can happen... you can tell by observation when a model makes #1 by multiple tippers or by one or two. Nothing wrong with it, unless you are going for number one that month, then it pisses you off a bit. When that happens it is best to give up for the month if you want #1.

 

[BullFrogBlues]

I keep forgetting to mention a camscore of 9k that jumps to 20k plus has some serious tokens, off-line most likely, flowing that way.

 

[Jupiter551]

BullFrog I said in the second paragraph it wasn't aimed at you precisely cos it wasn't aimed at just your comment...it's just my thoughts about the whole thing, particularly the (common) assumptions of 'cheating'

 

[BullFrogBlues]

BullFrog I said in the second paragraph it wasn't aimed at you precisely cos it wasn't aimed at just your comment...it's just my thoughts about the whole thing, particularly the (common) assumptions of 'cheating'

I never said cheating, and if you have followed Avery for more than a few months you know what she is "worth". I have said that someone, who I have named, but I could be wrong, has decided that February Avery is number one. That is how it is.

 

[Mirra]

I have said that someone, who I have named, but I could be wrong, has decided that February Avery is number one. That is how it is.

One of the super large offline tips came immediately following the update when CrazySysy briefly passed Avery for #1 earlier this month. Based purely on the timing of that one tip, I speculate that BullFrog's above quoted statement is correct. One of her fans decided they want to see her at the top this month. I don't think most of us consider it a bad thing and, in fact, most of us wish we could do the same for our favorite model(s).

 

[Mikeythegeek]

Yeah, it's not cheating to have a "sugar daddy" carrying a girl to #1. If she can get to the top without doing public cum shows or anything that breaks the MFC rules, then good for her. But she and her regular viewers have to accept the fact that she will be ripped on by other members and some models for having that "sugar daddy."

 

[AmberCutie]

Yeah, it's not cheating to have a "sugar daddy" carrying a girl to #1. If she can get to the top without doing public cum shows or anything that breaks the MFC rules, then good for her. But she and her regular viewers have to accept the fact that she will be ripped on by other members and some models for having that "sugar daddy."

Yeah having a sugar daddy is bittersweet I think. Wonderful for your status, rank, income, but tough on your reputation as there will always be people who hate on you for it.

 

[Anonymous]

Yeah, it's not cheating to have a "sugar daddy" carrying a girl to #1. If she can get to the top without doing public cum shows or anything that breaks the MFC rules, then good for her. But she and her regular viewers have to accept the fact that she will be ripped on by other members and some models for having that "sugar daddy."

Yeah having a sugar daddy is bittersweet I think. Wonderful for your status, rank, income, but tough on your reputation as there will always be people who hate on you for it.

Very true about about Miss MFC. Anyways Ive just talked to Mr. V12_ and hes saying its just not him thats keeping Avery at the top, its him and 4 other high tippers/rollers , and the rest (normal premiums) just follow. So rather than single him out as some(one) , include him in the rest of the some {others} that tip :lol:

 

[Mikeythegeek]

Yeah, it's not cheating to have a "sugar daddy" carrying a girl to #1. If she can get to the top without doing public cum shows or anything that breaks the MFC rules, then good for her. But she and her regular viewers have to accept the fact that she will be ripped on by other members and some models for having that "sugar daddy."

Yeah having a sugar daddy is bittersweet I think. Wonderful for your status, rank, income, but tough on your reputation as there will always be people who hate on you for it.

Very true about about Miss MFC. Anyways Ive just talked to Mr. V12_ and hes saying its just not him thats keeping Avery at the top, its him and 4 other high tippers/rollers , and the rest (normal premiums) just follow. So rather than single him out as some(one) , include him in the rest of the some {others} that tip :lol:

Yeah, no single member can carry a model to #1 by themselves, no matter how much they want to. Sure, some of us joke about winning the lottery to carry Amber to #1, but let's be realistic here, people! :lol:

 

[Jupiter551]

She's also started doing public shows just this month (to win miss mfc) - normally it's a countdown to get naked, public shows are more softcore etc.

I still don't see how it's any different to say, KristyLIVE with her group of high rollers - cept Avery's regulars don't make a point of publicly ripping on other models

The ONLY difference I can see in fact is that those guys aren't always tipping huge amounts in public - and there's good reason for that, for one thing you don't want bloobs raging about how she just got x tips so she has to ream her butt with a dildo, secondly some people find it a little gauche to flash large amounts of money around (even in tips).

BTW I concur with what Mirra said - if I was a Bill Gates or Justin Beiber of this world I'd pick some of my favourite underappreciated models and treat them.

 

[Mikeythegeek]

The ONLY difference I can see in fact is that those guys aren't always tipping huge amounts in public - and there's good reason for that, for one thing you don't want bloobs raging about how she just got x tips so she has to ream her butt with a dildo, secondly some people find it a little gauche to flash large amounts of money around (even in tips).

In those situations, the best thing to do is have someone else who's a regular say publicly that he does that out of love and doesn't request anything for it. If the beggar wants the model to do something, then they need to tip her. It usually shuts them up.

 

[SweepTheLeg]

Having to see this lady would require me to take off my filter and allow eastern european women to show up on my screen and I have no interest at this point and time so I don't know how rad or bogus this girl is.

But I don't think you should act surprised when there are those who are bitter and make snide remarks toward a girl, and have questions of legitimacy of someone who makes more money when she's not on cam than she does when she is. While I see a girl who is gunning for #1 spot and comes on twice a day almost every day and works for the money. Who do you think I am going to root for?

its a moot point, mfc is set up this way and its a double edged sword. While I am in favor of offline tips because it allows you to tip your favorite ladies when they can't come on and it allows the girls to not have to come on ALL the time, I don't like how someone can simply coast to victory. ho hum

 

[Jupiter551]

The conspiracy revealed!

 

[Keltaric]

Yeah having a sugar daddy is bittersweet I think. Wonderful for your status, rank, income, but tough on your reputation as there will always be people who hate on you for it.

That was the root of the question I was getting at in the thread about whales.

Do sugar daddy's create resentment from other members, other models, etc?

And how do you deal with that? How do you make sure people that tip 10-100 at a time don't feel irrelevant? Because in the long run, those people are pretty important as well.

 

[SweepTheLeg]

Think it depends on the lady. I've seen ladies show appreciation for any tip and will give attention to anyone they deem worthy and interesting (I think im walking talking living proof of that- or I'm doing something right at least) while having those 'sugar daddies' that tip the most and the most often, yet I also have witnessed how some other girls can act on the days the sugar daddy isn't around and they aren't being tipped as much or as often as they are used to and can come off like trying to guilt trip others to tip.

 

[GiaMisaki]

K so I've watched #1 the past few times shes been online. What I've observed is 1) it takes her around 3 hours to get 2000 tokens for a show and 2) I never saw her do privates or groups. Now I'm pretty positive its a studio behind her being #1. Hate me if you want for my opinion, but those are my thoughts.

wait she's #1 and it takes her 3 hours to pull 2k tokens? i'm not even popular on MFC and i can pull that in half the time. thank god for offline tippers i guess...

 

[Jupiter551]

wait she's #1 and it takes her 3 hours to pull 2k tokens? i'm not even popular on MFC and i can pull that in half the time. thank god for offline tippers i guess...

Nah I think that's called "exaggeration" :liar: , I'm giving some of you girls scratching posts for next christmas, might stop you clawing at each other.

I saw her pull in about 8k+ tonight in 2 hours. Most of that was from people I've never seen before. I tipped Julia offline more than once in the past before she was even trying for mfc, her regulars usually aren't tipping for shows. Why not just wish her well and get on with life.. :roll:

 

[kayceecane]

Why not just wish her well and get on with life.. :roll:

It seems every time I come back to this thread, you've posted something else. I know you're sticking up for a model that you really like, but if you want to let it die as well, then just stop feeding the fire if you feel that way! hah!

From what I've seen you're stuck on defending her, which if you like her, cool! However, the only thing you're going to do talking to people who DON'T necessarily like her the way YOU do, is go in circles fighting over something you can't win. This is the internet, and its a forum. Just wish them well and get on with life.