Models killing the chat in their room

[MFCGod]

I've seen models ask how to get people talking in their room, this is a bit the opposite, this is how not to kill the chat in your room (in my opinion anyway)

The Whole Room

I was in a new models room the other day, very nice, very chatty, busy room with lots of talking and tips coming in

Then she said "who wants to take me private? tip 7000 tokens and you can take me private... who is going to tip 7000 to take me for a naughty private guys?...."

Of course as a model you can ask for whatever you want, but if you want to kill the chat in your room dead, that's how to do it lol

As it was the last thing the model said it's left hanging in the air.... so you can't just ignore it and continue talking about something else like you were before

It essentially mutes the room for a while unless someone happens to have 7000 tokens and wants the offer

I was thinking about it; I think if she said exactly the same thing but then after replied to something in the chat, that opens back up the avenue for normal talk to resume

So it's fine to make requests or say offers, but I don't think it's good to say them then nothing else afterwards

Individuals

Sometimes I will go in to a new room, say hello, and almost instantly the model will say "do you want to buy me a shot Goblin?"

"Umm nope, I do not no" of course I can't say that, so what can I say? I'm under the spotlight to tip and effectively been muted from talking

^ On the flip side, if someone in your room is talking and you don't like them, asking for a tip is a good way to subtly shut them up, but I think new people should have a grace period (depending on how annoying they are)

I think it's ok to say to the room "does anyone want to buy me a shot?" then continue normal conversation, but I don't think you should pick out an individual (unless you don't like them) or end what you're saying on asking for a tip (as above)

ps. To be accepted into a new room I know I have to tip and I'm happy to do that, but I want to see if I like the model first, "hello, hello, buy me a shot?" isn't enough time

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There are exceptions to the above of course, regular room members and tippers will usually know whether they can keep on talking or not after a room request because they have that good faith and can tell the models tone

I guess most of this is intuitive, I just find it interesting to think about

Be interested to know peoples thoughts on the above, if I'm right/wrong or otherwise and if you would add anything

 

[godsgifttowomen]

That seems like that was a bad idea for that girl.

But for your 2nd part. I think you are complaining for nothing really. Just because a model ask you to tip doesn't mean you can't talk anymore. Just tell her maybe in a minute.

 

[SMuser69]

Personally I've always felt entering the free chat on any site was like walking up to rail at the strip club. Even though I main use Streamate, I'm generally using bio checks, search and hover over previews before I enter a room and only in there to ask specifics about what are the limits in pvt, exclusive. Every model I've had personally relationship has told me that working the sites was the "difficult" option in how they would like to make an income so always felt it was making things awkward not going into a free chat room without the intent to spend.

But to get more on your topic. Some models use fetish themes that may come off as "crazy" to people outside that fetish. There are "bratty crazy" models that if you get to know them are normal sane people but their persona in free chat is to overrate and be self-absorbed. There's a few "desperate submissive" models on Streamate that will give you a sob story every time even though they have $200 handbag and $400 shoes in the background.

tl;dr. Models forcing "tribute" or punishing their chat can be a valid strategy because it triggers fetish in some men.

 

[CharlotteLace]

^ On the flip side, if someone in your room is talking and you don't like them, asking for a tip is a good way to subtly shut them up, but I think new people should have a grace period (depending on how annoying they are)

Pretty much the only time I'll ask a single person directly for a tip or show is if they're making an ass of themselves.

Examples:
"Hey bb I think we'd all like to see tits!"
*Forever Freeloading Member* "Gosh I've missed you and you make me so horny! You know I love you! We should do a show soon!" (repeat every time you're online).

A rarer example are findom guys, but the way I go about that is much more subtle and other people typically don't notice for a while.

I'll agree, though, that aggressively demanding money to newcomers is more likely to be off-putting.

 

[Snowie1969]

Only talking to people in PM and completely ignoring most of the chat in your room works well too to kill the chat

 

[FluffyGalore]

That seems like that was a bad idea for that girl.

But for your 2nd part. I think you are complaining for nothing really. Just because a model ask you to tip doesn't mean you can't talk anymore. Just tell her maybe in a minute.

Asking for a 7000tk tip to go to a Pvt as a new model seems like a bad idea. Hmmm yes it really does. And as for him complaining for nothing, well he is the customer, and if he doesn't like it when a model calls him out and demands he tip then I wouldn't say that's nothing. Mr gods gift maybe you should rethink your career options because giving advice to either models or members quite clearly is not your forte. You have no grasp on what it is like on either side. I feel sorry for anyone that may get sucked in and listen to you ramble on about shit you just do not understand. I doubt this would ever happen anyway.

 

[Mila_]

Asking for a 7000tk tip to go to a Pvt as a new model seems like a bad idea. Hmmm yes it really does.

We don't know what the backstory to her request was. And this is something I want to explain to the guys who are reading this thread especially if you are a cool tipper who is respectful and friendly.

A model has more intel and information than you will ever have about what is going on behind the scenes with her highest tippers. She might say something in public chat but her intention is for 1 tipper to hear it. Maybe this girl knows there is a huge tipper in her room who can afford to tip 7000 tokens and he has been pestering her for a private show for a while. She might not want to PM this member to tell him "hey today would be a good day for this" because it might make her sound desperate or put the member on the spot, but she still wants to put the offer out there in case he is still interested, so she frames it as an offer for the entire room.

So don't take it personally, especially if what she is saying sounds crazy. Because she might be thinking of someone in particular, not you.

 

[Princess FeeFee]

Only talking to people in PM and completely ignoring most of the chat in your room works well too to kill the chat

This keeps being said, but honestly, there are tons of models who manage to keep high camscores and rarely have people chatting in the room at all. Maybe they have high tippers who prefer to chat/tip in private. For me personally, being distracted from my chat for even a second terrifies me, as I don't want to look boring to anyone new who comes in my room, but honestly it saves me so much time and energy when it's quiet and nobody talks and/or tips in main chat - just concentrate on arranging privates with people who prefer doing it in pm's and are actually tipping me.

 

[yummybrownfox]

You have to tip 7,000 tokens beforehand to basically reserve yourself a private session with her? Plus the ____ tokens you'll spend once you're in the private session? WOW, that seems...excessive? And no, I'm not trying to knock anyone's hustle. I just think that's excessive. I've heard of some MFC models requiring a tip before being taken private, but I think they were closer to the amount of 100 or 200 tokens...nowhere near 7,000. I never did the 'requiring a tip before we go private' thing. I just looked to see if the member had enough tokens for at least a 5-minute private (which you couldn't do if he has his token amount hidden). But now they have that feature where the model can set a token minimum for private, which I think is great.

It would've been awesome (and probably less awkward/less pressuring) if she had said something along the lines of "If anyone wants to go private, let me know cuz I ain't fucked all day." Lmao. And then she could've also put it in her room topic that she's available now for privates ("Let's go private cuz I'm horny as fuck!" or something like that).

I agree with you that it's better to ask "Does anyone want to buy me a shot?" instead of singling people out. That's probably gonna be a turn-off for a lot of guys who would have otherwise spent on her, had she not singled them out like that. There is just no need to single people out like that, unless they're making requests or demands, or being an obnoxious freeloader.

 

[Mila_]

You have to tip 7,000 tokens beforehand to basically reserve yourself a private session with her? Plus the ____ tokens you'll spend once you're in the private session? WOW, that seems...excessive? And no, I'm not trying to knock anyone's hustle. I just think that's excessive. I've heard of some MFC models requiring a tip before being taken private, but I think they were closer to the amount of 100 or 200 tokens...nowhere near 7,000. I never did the 'requiring a tip before we go private' thing. I just looked to see if the member had enough tokens for at least a 5-minute private (which you couldn't do if he has his token amount hidden). But now they have that feature where the model can set a token minimum for private, which I think is great.

It would've been awesome (and probably less awkward/less pressuring) if she had said something along the lines of "If anyone wants to go private, let me know cuz I ain't fucked all day." Lmao. And then she could've also put it in her room topic that she's available now for privates ("Let's go private cuz I'm horny as fuck!" or something like that).

I agree with you that it's better to ask "Does anyone want to buy me a shot?" instead of singling people out. That's probably gonna be a turn-off for a lot of guys who would have otherwise spent on her, had she not singled them out like that. There is just no need to single people out like that, unless they're making requests or demands, or being an obnoxious freeloader.

Many many models have really high tip requirements for private sessions, although it is usually for a True Private. I personally offered True Privates for 10,000 tokens a couple of years ago and had a handful of them. It is excessive, of course, but the model is not expecting to have a massive response, she is appealing to the 2 or 3 high tippers she already has. Someone who tips 10k for a True Private was probably already going to tip the model that much "just because" so by doing this she is just giving them the option to get something very special in return for their generosity. We really shouldn't judge other model's strategies because each room is unique, has a different dynamic and we never know what is going on behind the scenes.

 

[yummybrownfox]

Many many models have really high tip requirements for private sessions, although it is usually for a True Private. I personally offered True Privates for 10,000 tokens a couple of years ago and had a handful of them. It is excessive, of course, but the model is not expecting to have a massive response, she is appealing to the 2 or 3 high tippers she already has. Someone who tips 10k for a True Private was probably already going to tip the model that much "just because" so by doing this she is just giving them the option to get something very special in return for their generosity. We really shouldn't judge other model's strategies because each room is unique, has a different dynamic and we never know what is going on behind the scenes.

I wasn't judging anybody. I was simply stating that I think it's excessive. "Judging" would be if I had flat out called the model greedy (which wouldn't be nice).

 

[Lelo1]

Inactive rooms models price me out all the time. I don't have any motivation to tip if the goal isn't achievable. For most people that's 550, 900 tokens. And allot of the time I'm the only one tipping.

The same thing goes for models taking privates. If I can't afford the private. I see no point in tipping. That's what it sounds like happened there. several people were tipping. and when they realized there was no way to get a show, they stopped.

If you don't have allot of regulars. It's hard to have high tip goals. Because allot of people can't afford to push the show themselves.

 

[FluffyGalore]

We don't know what the backstory to her request was. And this is something I want to explain to the guys who are reading this thread especially if you are a cool tipper who is respectful and friendly.

A model has more intel and information than you will ever have about what is going on behind the scenes with her highest tippers. She might say something in public chat but her intention is for 1 tipper to hear it. Maybe this girl knows there is a huge tipper in her room who can afford to tip 7000 tokens and he has been pestering her for a private show for a while. She might not want to PM this member to tell him "hey today would be a good day for this" because it might make her sound desperate or put the member on the spot, but she still wants to put the offer out there in case he is still interested, so she frames it as an offer for the entire room.

So don't take it personally, especially if what she is saying sounds crazy. Because she might be thinking of someone in particular, not you.

I was being sarcastic as in godsgift doesn't have a tiny teeny clue to what he is talking about. What a certain model does or does not charge for Pvt is no concern of mine I have have no opinion on the matter.

 

[AwesomeKate]

Another way to kill the chat is to start doing something very sexy. If I start slowly stripping and dancing everyone stops typing. I wonder why...

 

[MFCGod]

We don't know what the backstory to her request was.

I didn't want to single anyone out by being too specific, but it was a well known porn star who was new to MFC at the time

I don't think it was out of the realms of possibility someone would want to tip her 7k, but at the same time it wasn't too likely it would happen quickly after she asked

That was an unusually large example, but I think it's the same in a slower room if a model said "who wants to buy all my videos for 1000... anyone going to buy them for 1000?"

Someone may well want to buy the videos for 1000, but no point making that the sole focus and killing the chat until they do it

^ Unless of course the model is fed up and doesn't care either way

 

[JerryBoBerry]

You have to tip 7,000 tokens beforehand to basically reserve yourself a private session with her? Plus the ____ tokens you'll spend once you're in the private session? WOW, that seems...excessive? And no, I'm not trying to knock anyone's hustle. I just think that's excessive. I've heard of some MFC models requiring a tip before being taken private, but I think they were closer to the amount of 100 or 200 tokens...nowhere near 7,000. I never did the 'requiring a tip before we go private' thing.

Mostly depends on the camscore of the model doing it. A new model with a lower camscore, yeah it would be stupid and excessive. But one with a higher camscore knows an hour long private (regular private) she'll get 3600 tokens. If she is averaging 10600 tokens an hour by just being in her room, then she has to have an additional 7000 tokens to just maintain her regular tipping average during a private.

If she were to only charge 200 tokens, then she'd only have 3800 for the hour and her camscore would fall while she took the private. That's based on an hour. For a 15 minute private only 1750 upfront would be needed, and so on.

So I can understand it for some of the higher camscore models. Really any model that averages over 3600 tokens an hour would be mathematically justified in doing so to some degree.

 

[JubalCobb]

Mostly depends on the camscore of the model doing it. A new model with a lower camscore, yeah it would be stupid and excessive. But one with a higher camscore knows an hour long private (regular private) she'll get 3600 tokens. If she is averaging 10600 tokens an hour by just being in her room, then she has to have an additional 7000 tokens to just maintain her regular tipping average during a private.

You always see the lounge guys loosing their minds when a model wants a large sum of tokens before going private. As Jerry says its a matter of simple math

I would add that he isn't accounting for spys. For a high camscore model, that number could be quite large
redo the numbers for a true private, so 4800, just to keep things simple.

 

[Snowie1969]

This keeps being said, but honestly, there are tons of models who manage to keep high camscores and rarely have people chatting in the room at all. Maybe they have high tippers who prefer to chat/tip in private. For me personally, being distracted from my chat for even a second terrifies me, as I don't want to look boring to anyone new who comes in my room, but honestly it saves me so much time and energy when it's quiet and nobody talks and/or tips in main chat - just concentrate on arranging privates with people who prefer doing it in pm's and are actually tipping me.

I am not implying that the model in question isn't making money etc.. but... it does kill the chat and that was the question.. what kills chat? Models who ignore chat going on in their room.

 

[FluffyGalore]

I didn't want to single anyone out by being too specific, but it was a well known porn star who was new to MFC at the time

I don't think it was out of the realms of possibility someone would want to tip her 7k, but at the same time it wasn't too likely it would happen quickly after she asked

That was an unusually large example, but I think it's the same in a slower room if a model said "who wants to buy all my videos for 1000... anyone going to buy them for 1000?"

Someone may well want to buy the videos for 1000, but no point making that the sole focus and killing the chat until they do it

^ Unless of course the model is fed up and doesn't care either way

Personally I constantly remind guys that I'm selling or doing a countdown. models have to constantly remind everyone why we are there and that we rely on getting tips or sales. It's just they way you do it I suppose. I will let everyone one know what I'm selling or what is in the topic, then go back to answering questions or continuing the convo. I don't just leave it hanging.

 

[Nordling]

We don't know what the backstory to her request was. And this is something I want to explain to the guys who are reading this thread especially if you are a cool tipper who is respectful and friendly.

A model has more intel and information than you will ever have about what is going on behind the scenes with her highest tippers. She might say something in public chat but her intention is for 1 tipper to hear it. Maybe this girl knows there is a huge tipper in her room who can afford to tip 7000 tokens and he has been pestering her for a private show for a while. She might not want to PM this member to tell him "hey today would be a good day for this" because it might make her sound desperate or put the member on the spot, but she still wants to put the offer out there in case he is still interested, so she frames it as an offer for the entire room.

So don't take it personally, especially if what she is saying sounds crazy. Because she might be thinking of someone in particular, not you.

May also be a model who doesn't really even want to go pvt but has set a price that will make her change her own mind...make it worth what may be distasteful at the moment, and if no one takes the offer, she's still happy.