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I wish to make you aware of an issue that could affect how all of us in the United States and possibly many other countries use the Internet on an everyday basis. It could have a major affect on the main thing that all of us on this forum are interested in- viewing porn and/or working in the Internet porn business.

The issue is “Net Neutrality.” Or as I prefer to call the concept…

The Open, Free Market, Anti-Discrimination Internet.

What is it? As it is, every bit of information carried over the Internet is treated equally. You could be reading an article on CNN.com or playing Warcraft or downloading something from BitTorrent or watching a camgirl on MFC and all the data that is coming to you or any data that you send out is not limited or slowed down by your Internet Service Provider. It is only limited by the amount of existing traffic on network.

However, if the ISPs get their way, they would be able to limit how you access the Internet. They would be able to charge you for varying levels of Internet access. They could charge Internet sites for being available to more users or charge them based on how much data they send out.

Last week, this became a real threat after Verizon and Google jointly created a blueprint for federal legislation for maintaining an “open” Internet. I put open in quotes because it does not apply to wireless access, meaning public wi-fi or cellular networks. That means they could still place limits on your netbook, iPhone or Android phone, for example.

It also states that ISPs could “prioritize general classes or types of Internet traffic” in order to manage their network. That could mean that someone playing a game online could have the flow of data to and from their computer slowed down in the name of “managing the network.” It could mean that a camgirl putting on a show could all of a sudden have her connection quality lowered, leading to lower cam quality (and we know what happens to most girls with bad cam quality). And if you think it won’t happen, Comcast did it 2 years ago to BitTorrent users.

But imagine what would happen if websites had to pay to be available to more users. Do you think that MFC (which sends out a ton of data every second, is very broadband intensive, and is essentially an independent operation) would pay that premium without having it affect the income of the models? I don’t think any cam site would do that. Of course, if the public found out that any porn site was paying for priority or improved access to any network, the ISPs customers and shareholders would probably have a shit fit.

What if ISPs said to their customers “hey, you pay us an extra $40 a month and we’ll let you have access to all those porn sites you love,” would it work? For some, yeah. I read somewhere that Internet porn is a $3 billion per year industry. But the businesses would suffer has fewer people would pay for the access and even fewer would be able to pay for subscriptions or membership.

In summary, this issue will have a major effect on how you use the Internet on an everyday basis. It is important to know what’s going on and let the government know that you want an open, unfiltered Internet that doesn’t discriminate. An Internet that treats every website, every file, every user equally.

Websites worth reading for more info

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_neutrality - covers the basics pretty well, even though it's Wikipedia

http://www.scribd.com/doc/35599242/Veri ... k-Proposal - the Verizon/Google deal

http://www.wired.com/epicenter/2010/08/ ... nkey/all/1 - Wired magazine editorial on the proposal

http://arstechnica.com/telecom/news/201 ... llapse.ars - How Google flip-flopped on this

http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2010/08/go ... neutrality - An analysis of the proposal from the Electronic Frontier Foundation

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/tue-a ... -exploiter - A more humorous look at the issue
 
Mikeythegeek said:
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I wish to make you aware of an issue that could affect how all of us in the United States and possibly many other countries use the Internet on an everyday basis. It could have a major affect on the main thing that all of us on this forum are interested in- viewing porn and/or working in the Internet porn business.

For perverts not in the US, but in the UK.
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/consumer/2010/0 ... eutrality/ - a consultation on net neutrality by the UK regulator. Everyone read it and comment.
 
I heard about this years ago and was hoping it would just go away, apparently It didn't. This is a bunch of bullshit. Not one person or company has any right to control how much of our internet bandwidth we use. If I'm going to pay for a high speed connection, I'm going to use it how much I want and at it's full potential.
 
Great thread this is very important. It is up to US net junkies to scream about it. Fuck Google and Verizon for getting fat off a free and open internet and then try to get fatter by locking it down under their control. I hope this does not happen. But if it does I hope that Hackers destroy these motherfuckers.
 
It boggles my mind that ISPs think they can treat certain types of traffic as premium content akin to premium movie channels when, unlike those premium channels, it costs them nothing extra to make them available. It becomes essentially discrimination and censorship in the name of profits. Biggest fucking bullshit ever.
 
This is happening daily.. when wireless internet cards first came out they were all unlimited access and now you can not get unlimited in some areas and you pay extra where you can get it. i am ready to move to where ever it is in the USA that i can get better internet access cheaper, not just for porn lol. i don't watch TV the internet is my playground, check right now.. you think i am on MFC cause i am logged in. i could be asleep a could be playing a game i could be reading email or talking to a friend. i have yahooIM skype and MFC open 24 hours a day, i am sure the ISP hates me, but if someone wants to reach me i want them to be able to.
 
RufffRider said:
This is happening daily.. when wireless internet cards first came out they were all unlimited access and now you can not get unlimited in some areas and you pay extra where you can get it. i am ready to move to where ever it is in the USA that i can get better internet access cheaper, not just for porn lol. i don't watch TV the internet is my playground, check right now.. you think i am on MFC cause i am logged in. i could be asleep a could be playing a game i could be reading email or talking to a friend. i have yahooIM skype and MFC open 24 hours a day, i am sure the ISP hates me, but if someone wants to reach me i want them to be able to.

Net neutrality isn't related directly to traffic limits.
It's - broadly - differentiating on services based on non-technical aspects of those services.

For example - flickr loads faster than picasa.
Or youtube streams faster than MFC.

There are fundamental limitations on bandwidth in some cases - for example - some mobile networks are near saturation - there is no more bandwidth in some areas, and they slow down - due to limitations on tower density, and the implementation of the mobile phone networks.

Either they remove 'unlimited' plans, or they look at building 4 times the number of towers.
They are not their to subsidise heavy users, but to make money - hence raising everyones bills to pay for roll-out of more dense towers isn't attractive.

In other places, this is a market limit - for example, if all ISPs in a market have to buy from a provider that makes them - at the common market pricepoint - lose money on customers that use more than XGb/mo (typically it's more complex than this), then they can't keep the same price-point, and not cap/traffic manage in some manner.

People who push for net prioritization attempt to address this by saying ' well - the free part is clogged - so let content providers pay for more bandwidth.

The only legitimate way to deal with this IMO is to let the user pay all the costs of their internet connection.

Requiring content providers to pay the end-users costs is a complete failure for an open, free net.
 
Mikeythegeek said:

So for a while now I thought I was hallucinating that it seems everytime I go on a movie downloading binge, that my connection seems considerably slower for the next couple days, and then eventually returns to normal.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm.
 
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