Reality check

[Diana_Devil]

You seem to have a jaded point of view and have never tried sex work. You’re also generalizing and assuming the ones who “type, make money and log off” are successful. This takes a ton of work and actually I knew women who opted out of it after the pandemic because they stated how hard it was. Until you try it you have no clue. Please evaluate your judgement and closed mind..it’s toxic and outdated. Also, it is ONE of the hardest jobs. You are running a business, a private contractor who makes their own schedule, disciplines themselves to show up, entertaining men and being a good conversationalist while consistently being in a good mood so they pay you and can at least absorb positive energy because the members are looking for an escape from stress. If the cam model is having a bad day, she better work to pep talk herself in a great mood. A 4 hour cam shift can feel like an 8 hour shift if retail. Not to mention it’s also psychotherapy due to the amount of men speaking about their mental and emotional health. I have had some tell me things they were most ashamed of and have never told anyone. You think it’s just porn, and you know what about 70% of it isn’t even sexual. Then there are some that just spill their shit on you, like you absorb their heavy energy and the aftercare is crucial. Detox baths, cleansing, meditation, yoga, and herbal remedies are all necessities to handle this job. Sex workers see the true side of men that are kept hidden. Taking your clothes off is the tip of the ice berg. We have been taught it’s degrading and not having respect for yourself when in fact it’s the smart thing to do if you feel confident and hot-do you know how much confidence you need to fucking do this job Jesus-and working at a corporate job that takes advantage and under pays is much more degrading lol. I hope you educate yourself more on something you have failed to understand.

 

[InannahQoH]

You seem to have a jaded point of view and have never tried sex work. You’re also generalizing and assuming the ones who “type, make money and log off” are successful. This takes a ton of work and actually I knew women who opted out of it after the pandemic because they stated how hard it was. Until you try it you have no clue. Please evaluate your judgement and closed mind..it’s toxic and outdated. Also, it is ONE of the hardest jobs. You are running a business, a private contractor who makes their own schedule, disciplines themselves to show up, entertaining men and being a good conversationalist while consistently being in a good mood so they pay you and can at least absorb positive energy because the members are looking for an escape from stress. If the cam model is having a bad day, she better work to pep talk herself in a great mood. A 4 hour cam shift can feel like an 8 hour shift if retail. Not to mention it’s also psychotherapy due to the amount of men speaking about their mental and emotional health. I have had some tell me things they were most ashamed of and have never told anyone. You think it’s just porn, and you know what about 70% of it isn’t even sexual. Then there are some that just spill their shit on you, like you absorb their heavy energy and the aftercare is crucial. Detox baths, cleansing, meditation, yoga, and herbal remedies are all necessities to handle this job. Sex workers see the true side of men that are kept hidden. Taking your clothes off is the tip of the ice berg. We have been taught it’s degrading and not having respect for yourself when in fact it’s the smart thing to do if you feel confident and hot-do you know how much confidence you need to fucking do this job Jesus-and working at a corporate job that takes advantage and under pays is much more degrading lol. I hope you educate yourself more on something you have failed to understand.

Wow.. where was that hateful stupid uneducated post you replied to dug up from. Hehehe
I'd reply to it as well, but the original poster is deleted. So... i'll refrain.

Best wishes to all, trying to handle the difficult and emotional job.

 

[SensualJade]

Wow.. where was that hateful stupid uneducated post you replied to dug up from. Hehehe
I'd reply to it as well, but the original poster is deleted. So... i'll refrain.

Best wishes to all, trying to handle the difficult and emotional job.

It got deleted? Lol because they got destroyed haha! I didn’t even mention all the background work in regarding the research we have to do to be successful, manage our fluctuating money income which is emotional itself, and choosing the best payment method…it’s especially harder as a Canadian model. And I wish you lots of prosperity! May we override slow times and be grateful for our income as it increases this holiday season. We come first! I don’t give a shit. Words are spells.

Wow.. where was that hateful stupid uneducated post you replied to dug up from. Hehehe
I'd reply to it as well, but the original poster is deleted. So... i'll refrain.

Best wishes to all, trying to handle the difficult and emotional job.

Wow.. where was that hateful stupid uneducated post you replied to dug up from. Hehehe
I'd reply to it as well, but the original poster is deleted. So... i'll refrain.

Best wishes to all, trying to handle the difficult and emotional job.

Wow.. where was that hateful stupid uneducated post you replied to dug up from. Hehehe
I'd reply to it as well, but the original poster is deleted. So... i'll refrain.

Best wishes to all, trying to handle the difficult and emotional job.

It got deleted? Lol because they got destroyed haha! I didn’t even mention all the background work in regarding the research we have to do to be successful, manage our fluctuating money income which is emotional itself, and choosing the best payment method…it’s especially harder as a Canadian model. And I wish you lots of prosperity! May we override slow times and be grateful for our income as it increases this holiday season. We come first! I don’t give a shit. Words are spells.

Wow.. where was that hateful stupid uneducated post you replied to dug up from. Hehehe
I'd reply to it as well, but the original poster is deleted. So... i'll refrain.

Best wishes to all, trying to handle the difficult and emotional job.

 

[yummybrownfox]

The post wasn’t deleted. That Mark guy, however, was banned from this forum several months ago. 👍

 

[secretary of filth]

I'm just curious... Does anyone have personal experiences they are comfortable sharing where they hit that moment of "oh shit..." upon realizing this? Or maybe this is better suited to a models only page, lol.

Like- a lot of younger girls can read this post and get scared by it, but then quickly shake it off because it's never happened. I mean I'm just gonna be honest, I knew all of this before I did it. Whatever I post is most likely gonna end up somewhere else. Whatever I do- is going to be screencapped or whatever. The possibility is there- but admittedly, I got over that kind of quickly...
I guess maybe I'm asking if anyone here might lowkey regret getting into this job because of this reason.

Sorry to reply to a year old post, but this resonated with me.

Before my current cam persona, like a lot of you I was an exhibitionist online for free. Got involved in an online relationship where I sent the guy a bunch of nudes that went past my comfort level, kink-wise. Relationship ended badly and for a long time I lived in fear of him posting them in revenge. Like, I don’t think he would, but you never know. Some guys are very strange about camgirls.

Obviously I have taken steps to differentiate myself from those old photos, making a new username and changing up my appearance and demeanor but it takes exactly 1 obsessed psycho to notice a freckle on my bum matching up with my old pictures. So, I have to contend with the fact that it’s always a possibility they’ll be connected to me.

To keep anxiety at bay, I like to think of the old zen story about the tea cup:

"'One day Ajahn Chah held up a beautiful Chinese tea cup, “To me this cup is already broken. Because I know its fate, I can enjoy it fully here and now. And when it’s gone, it’s gone.'” When we understand the truth of uncertainty and relax, we become free."
~ version by Jack Kornfield (from The Wise Heart)

Poems To Live By - The Cup Is Already Broken

Privacy in the 21st century is an illusion. Corporations stalk our every move through our smartphones. Even normal people who don’t cam or watch porn, they’d be so shocked to find out what their telephone company knows about them. Or how much data Google has passively scraped from their searches, their emails, and so on.

So we whores might as well get paid for it!

 

[HEHEHE]

Interesting thread, I must say. Specially that it has been running for a dozen years and that you can clearly see the evolution regarding global "awareness" and its repercussions on camsites...

Studio girls have always been the majority on camsites, but there's less and less, very few actually, new independent girls nowadays, the bulk of newbies being from the 18, "clueless" non nude studio girls brought on cam by deceptive ways, then disappearing 2-3 monhts later to be replaced by a clone...

The reason is clear: less and less girls, specially in the US and western countries, are deluded or misinformed about privacy in this business... Many grew up as camsite visitors when those were at their peak, and don't need the reality check... They're aware of how popular camsites are, that geoblocking is useless, and that people around them will know (or guess), because people like to talk and you can't dramatically change your lifestyle and expect your family or friends not to understand what's going on (actually the first thing people often imagine is "escorting")....

Fewer and fewer aren't also aware of the massive piracy and paralell business that is running around camsites, with people recording, ripping, sharing, selling... their shows that will circulate around the Internet even way after they retired, with facial recognition eventually "catching" them later.. And they know that no, DMCA doesn't protect your content... They just see.

And it has a massive impact on camsites and their attractivty... As eveyone knows, guys prefer indies, while any long time or simply good camgirl who retires nowadays (and they have to at some point) is replaced by one of the girls mentioned above or a girl who will quickly get the reality check then disappear... Huge drop off in quality, hence why audience and money have shrunk so badly (partial explaination anyway)...

Thinking about a super hot newbie a few months ago you could feel she wouldn't last long... 90% of her time in private, pervs were piling up in front of her private door... 3 weeks later she was gone. You could feel it all the way she wasn"t "aware" and almost feel bad for her because you also felt that's the last thing she wanted...

Less american or western indies also means less of that american or western audience that was making for like 2/3 or so of the global one and even more of the money spent, including those US daddies or whales who used to make camsites florish (hello MyFreecams!)

(these guys as well got their reality check, but that's another topic, which wouldn't probably be very popular in a camgirl forum (basic self-preservation) even if that's also part of the explaination why audience and money have dropped so brutally...)

Oh, and about the raging debate on "camgirl", cam model" "camwhore", "performer"...

I don't really care or have a word to say on how people want to call themselves on camsites but just focus on, you know, what's on camera... But for the sake of it, and peacefully so, it is true that there's always been a conscious or inconscious effort in the different activities of the sex industry to "desexualize" or "deserotize" (I know that's not a word) what's going on a set, cam room or wherever, while at the end of the day, it's all about sex or erotism., right? Female attraction if you prefer.

Truth to be told, I don't really think anyone is lurking on camsites to see a hot girl "perform" a mammary exposition or "create" a vaginal introduction, live or on a vid she sells, but are here to see a girl flash her big boobies or finger her pussy and get excited about it, which is perfectly fine....

But again, who cares about nouns as long as guys enjoy their camgirls and camgirls enjoy their money...? Let's just call ourselves girls and guys and the wold will keep turning round.

 

[yummybrownfox]

InAweOfCB, is that you?

 

[AmberCutie]

InAweOfCB, is that you?

this one has a hate boner for stripchat… did awe do that too?

 

[yummybrownfox]

this one has a hate boner for stripchat… did awe do that too?

No, Awe liked to go on weird tangents and ramble on about "raw math." Lol.

 

[Danigirl]

Interesting thread, I must say. Specially that it has been running for a dozen years and that you can clearly see the evolution regarding global "awareness" and its repercussions on camsites...

Studio girls have always been the majority on camsites, but there's less and less, very few actually, new independent girls nowadays, the bulk of newbies being from the 18, "clueless" non nude studio girls brought on cam by deceptive ways, then disappearing 2-3 monhts later to be replaced by a clone...

The reason is clear: less and less girls, specially in the US and western countries, are deluded or misinformed about privacy in this business... Many grew up as camsite visitors when those were at their peak, and don't need the reality check... They're aware of how popular camsites are, that geoblocking is useless, and that people around them will know (or guess), because people like to talk and you can't dramatically change your lifestyle and expect your family or friends not to understand what's going on (actually the first thing people often imagine is "escorting")....

Fewer and fewer aren't also aware of the massive piracy and paralell business that is running around camsites, with people recording, ripping, sharing, selling... their shows that will circulate around the Internet even way after they retired, with facial recognition eventually "catching" them later.. And they know that no, DMCA doesn't protect your content... They just see.

And it has a massive impact on camsites and their attractivty... As eveyone knows, guys prefer indies, while any long time or simply good camgirl who retires nowadays (and they have to at some point) is replaced by one of the girls mentioned above or a girl who will quickly get the reality check then disappear... Huge drop off in quality, hence why audience and money have shrunk so badly (partial explaination anyway)...

Thinking about a super hot newbie a few months ago you could feel she wouldn't last long... 90% of her time in private, pervs were piling up in front of her private door... 3 weeks later she was gone. You could feel it all the way she wasn"t "aware" and almost feel bad for her because you also felt that's the last thing she wanted...

Less american or western indies also means less of that american or western audience that was making for like 2/3 or so of the global one and even more of the money spent, including those US daddies or whales who used to make camsites florish (hello MyFreecams!)

(these guys as well got their reality check, but that's another topic, which wouldn't probably be very popular in a camgirl forum (basic self-preservation) even if that's also part of the explaination why audience and money have dropped so brutally...)

Oh, and about the raging debate on "camgirl", cam model" "camwhore", "performer"...

I don't really care or have a word to say on how people want to call themselves on camsites but just focus on, you know, what's on camera... But for the sake of it, and peacefully so, it is true that there's always been a conscious or inconscious effort in the different activities of the sex industry to "desexualize" or "deserotize" (I know that's not a word) what's going on a set, cam room or wherever, while at the end of the day, it's all about sex or erotism., right? Female attraction if you prefer.

Truth to be told, I don't really think anyone is lurking on camsites to see a hot girl "perform" a mammary exposition or "create" a vaginal introduction, live or on a vid she sells, but are here to see a girl flash her big boobies or finger her pussy and get excited about it, which is perfectly fine....

But again, who cares about nouns as long as guys enjoy their camgirls and camgirls enjoy their money...? Let's just call ourselves girls and guys and the wold will keep turning round.

You sound so fun at parties.

 

[MarieElise]

Lol what raging debate? A couple of weird guys who aren’t even in the business are obsessed w that issue. The rest of us have lives, and more important, relevant things to focus on.

What a bunch of opinionated drivel. Yawn. It never fails to amaze me how many weirdos are obsessed w this business and the people actually in it. Who has that amount of free time? What a waste of mental energy. Scandalous, just scandalous.

ETA; if we’re going all crazy and making up words now, I’m making up one too. To describe that post; drivelated.

 

[rockin_rod]

Lol what raging debate?

They're probably standing in front of a mirror arguing with themself..... captive audience

 

[HEHEHE]

Lol what raging debate? A couple of weird guys who aren’t even in the business are obsessed w that issue. The rest of us have lives, and more important, relevant things to focus on.

What a bunch of opinionated drivel. Yawn. It never fails to amaze me how many weirdos are obsessed w this business and the people actually in it. Who has that amount of free time? What a waste of mental energy. Scandalous, just scandalous.

ETA; if we’re going all crazy and making up words now, I’m making up one too. To describe that post; drivelated.

That was scarcastic lady... I know you don't give a fuck.

 

[Sevrin]

Mom Sues School District After Claiming She Was Banned for Using OnlyFans

A mother of two is suing the Orange County, FL, public school district after allegedly being banned from her sons' school because of her OnlyFans account. Victoria Triece says that she came to the elementary school in October 2021 to help with a pumpkin-carving activity, only to be pulled aside...

nowthisnews.com

 

[yummybrownfox]

Mom Sues School District After Claiming She Was Banned for Using OnlyFans

A mother of two is suing the Orange County, FL, public school district after allegedly being banned from her sons' school because of her OnlyFans account. Victoria Triece says that she came to the elementary school in October 2021 to help with a pumpkin-carving activity, only to be pulled aside...

nowthisnews.com

They were talking about that on The View. What kills me is that 1) how would the snitch/es even know about it unless THEY were on OF themselves. Uh-huh…And 2) mothers are constantly shamed when they work “regular” 9-5 jobs, and have to miss out on their child’s school events during the day. It’s “Awww, Timmy’s mom never gets to come to his school events! Well hopefully she can come to Breakfast With Santa!” Yeah, well Timmy’s mom works for someone else, and doesn’t have the luxury of working whenever she wants, and has to request time off for every school conference, Thanksgiving luncheon, etc. Because…you know…bills and stuff, and not wanting to get fired.

Btw I saw that OnlyFans mom speaking about this, and she’s gorgeous. I bet you it’s a butthurt housewife who outed her. If a mother is able to have a job that allows her the freedom to work when she wants, and be available for all of her kids’ activities too…that’s a dream come true imo! Fucking haters. Mothers are SUPERHEROES. Always finding a way to make shit happen, and take care of their family.

 

[camster]

Models. You need to realize this right now. ANY time you put something on the internet, it is there FOREVER. It can never be eliminated, and eventually it will be found by someone who you'd rather not find it.

For example, any time you are on cam, you should assume that images or videos of that cam show will be recorded and put on the internet forever. I'm talking private shows, group shows, and ESPECIALLY public shows. It's already the case that MFC owns the rights to all of said imagery and video, and can do with it what they like.

You may not like it when members record your shows and upload them to different places on the internet, and you can try hard to get those images taken down. Sometimes you may find that you are even successful with getting an instance of something taken down. But the truth is, once it's out there it is impossible to fully retract. All it takes is one person to have saved a copy of it before it got taken down, and it can be reposted again. There is jack shit you can do about it, so it is not worth your time trying to take it down. It will only delay the inevitable, and could in fact speed it up by pissing people off and making them post it more.

A lot of models use location-block in order to block people from their hometown and surrounding area from seeing them. This is a decent short-term solution, but in the end, it's pointless. There is absolutely no way to guarantee that people from your home town will never find out. All it takes is one time for someone you know from real life to be travelling out of state and see you online, or see your pictures. It is also easy for technically-savvy people to use a proxy to get around location blocks. The point is, location block is only a temporary solution, and there are ways around it. You will be found out. It is only a matter of time.

Let's say you're super lucky, and during your several-year stint as a camwhore, you are never found by someone you know in real life. You think you're off the hook? Along with all the imagery MFC has recorded of you and could sell at any point in time, you can bet that random members (and guests!) have taken lots of imagery too. It will be on the internet forever. 40 years down the road, your kids will stumble across naked pictures and videos of you on the internet. It's going to happen. This is reality, and there is nothing you can do to change it.

The point? If you don't want your friends and family to find out you're a camwhore, then don't become a camwhore. Don't want your grandkids to see videos of you anally fisting yourself? Then don't become a camwhore. Don't want the local authorities to find out you're a camwhore? I think I'm becoming redundant here.

Do you think your real-life identity is secret? All it takes is ONE person you know from real life to find you on MFC and leak your identity. It's going to happen eventually. Hopefully it won't happen for a while, but you need to be prepared for the day when it does happen, because mark my words, it will.

Once something is on the internet, it is there forever. Making an attempt to change that fact only makes you look stupid.

its the risk we all take to make the money

 

[ActiveBitchFace]

The double standard for what is acceptable for mothers v. fathers is total fucking bullshit. I'm sorry that happened to that woman. Fuck those small-minded douchebags.

 

[yummybrownfox]

The double standard for what is acceptable for mothers v. fathers is total fucking bullshit. I'm sorry that happened to that woman. Fuck those small-minded douchebags.

It really is!

Also…I’ve seen a meme on Facebook showing a comparison of things that people will say to a father who is out with his child (praising him with “Aw, you’re such a good dad!,” etc.)…versus the things that people will say to a mother who is out with her child and doing the exact same thing (But will shame the mother or nitpick that she shouldn’t blah, blah, blah).