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Am I really the only one who is bothered by the term camwhore?
yup sounds horible, we are cam models, but unfortunatly some of the rooms you may watch we admit it that they are acting like camwhores, some even got this nick name with slut ,whore, etc so we cant blame it on noone else .. Years ago when there was only site without free shows , there was only cam models.. now when u open a free site and u see all the crazy nasty things togheter, we are called camwhores ...
 
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yup sounds horible, we are cam models, but unfortunatly some of the rooms you may watch we admit it that they are acting like camwhores, some even got this nick name with slut ,whore, etc so we cant blame it on noone else .. Years ago when there was only site without free shows , there was only cam models.. now when u open a free site and u see all the crazy nasty things togheter, we are called camwhores ...
I'll always be fascinated by camgirls slut shaming other camgirls.... Those other "filthy whores" who give us classy cam "models" a bad name...

This is the sex business, and there's no "whorarchy" where some girls would better or classier than others relatively to their persona or shows... Some non nude can be terribly vulgar while some hard girls will be the classiset girls around. It's all about attitude and respect on both sides.

There's a audience and clientele for everyone. If some girls want to play the "whore" or "slut" roleplay and persona, that's their right and there's not only a big audience and clientele for that, but that's what most people come from. They don't come to see a girl "modeling" but to fantasize, perv and/or masturbate on hot babes (eventually for money) whatever she might do, from non nude to hardcore. "Sex from money", which, pejorative connotation put aside, is the defintion of a "whore" and how, no matter what , any camgirl will be perceived by society. Go on any dictionnary, check the "whore" and the "model" definition, then see which is closer of what you find on camsites...

There are many girls who have no problem with the 'whore' term and will integrate it in their business model cos that's where their money is, or they just don't want to take the "emotional scamming road" and sell their friendship, their heart, their soul, or whatever some girls try to sell... Experience shows that the ones who are the most sensible to the W word and are shitting on other girls will often be the ones that may just don't assume their choice, using rethorical and semantical tricks to make them feel better about themselves, then blaming these other "shameless hoes" for their sorrow.

And My experience tells me girls who have no problem with that are usually the coolest, simplest girls you'll find around you'll have the best experience with, precisely because there's no ambiguity and everyone know what they're here for... Sex on one side, money on the other....
Do I disrespect them? No, I just don't know them anyway... I just come to pay for their services and my fetishes (mainky dirty talking).

You'll be in private with that girl who is just a fucking dirty talking master and knows exactly what makesyou crazy without even asking... "you want to fuck your busty, dirty little camwhore, you want to ruin that cam slut"... end of the private... Thanks lady, that was great.... so how have you been doing... Great and you? Did you get to that concert?... Yeah; Iwent with my BF, hat was great.... blah, blah, blah... See you nest time..."

Meanwhile, in the rooms around, girls will be asking you money for their rankings, their house, their cars, to make them happy, to help the orphans, or like that "model" who was litterally offering nothing on camera, for her best friend in hospital who *cough* needs brain surgery *cough*... THAT is what ruined camsites, not "whores"....
 
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And for the sake of it, "models' is just a term used by default in the relatively new sex industry where it is hard to desribe the job without being explicit, for its glamour and classy vibe. You can also find it in the porn industry where girls who will get holes dilated by huge dongs and faces coverd in cum on camera are also called "models" while guys are called... "talents". It's all about semantics.

Make me think about this pornstar who posted a long letter online to explain why pornstars shouldn't be considered as sex workers cos they were just "acting" and playing personas in their scenes, just like in Hollywood movies... Or that MFC US camgirl who had BJ tease and cumshow in her profile who didn't understand why other girls were calling themselves sex workers, as she was feeling it was like she was on TV, just chilling with guys...

Camsites and cam studios first cam with the "model" term not to frighten potential new arrivants and attract girls who may never think about becoming sex workers. Go on all the big studios websites and it's all about "glamour online modelling", soap opera lifestyle, empowerement... the only word you'll never find is "sex". Then go in their studios facilties and it's red carpet on the floor, fashion models or Effel Tower pictures on the wall, "love", "happiness".... inscritptions everywhere.

It works for howerver long it is working until girls (studio or indies) realize spending 7 hours a day showing or playing with your body for money isn't "glamour online modeling" and many quit, reason why the lifespan of a camgirl is s short.

Not saying that, because of its pejorative connatation, "whore" is necessarily the most appropriate term, but "model" certainly isn't either. "camgirl" is probably is good, clear compromise and is specific to this job.
 

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And for the sake of it, "models' is just a term used by default in the relatively new sex industry where it is hard to desribe the job without being explicit, for its glamour and classy vibe. You can also find it in the porn industry where girls who will get holes dilated by huge dongs and faces coverd in cum on camera are also called "models" while guys are called... "talents". It's all about semantics.

Make me think about this pornstar who posted a long letter online to explain why pornstars shouldn't be considered as sex workers cos they were just "acting" and playing personas in their scenes, just like in Hollywood movies... Or that MFC US camgirl who had BJ tease and cumshow in her profile who didn't understand why other girls were calling themselves sex workers, as she was feeling it was like she was on TV, just chilling with guys...

Camsites and cam studios first cam with the "model" term not to frighten potential new arrivants and attract girls who may never think about becoming sex workers. Go on all the big studios websites and it's all about "glamour online modelling", soap opera lifestyle, empowerement... the only word you'll never find is "sex". Then go in their studios facilties and it's red carpet on the floor, fashion models or Effel Tower pictures on the wall, "love", "happiness".... inscritptions everywhere.

It works for howerver long it is working until girls (studio or indies) realize spending 7 hours a day showing or playing with your body for money isn't "glamour online modeling" and many quit, reason why the lifespan of a camgirl is s short.

Not saying that, because of its pejorative connatation, "whore" is necessarily the most appropriate term, but "model" certainly isn't either. "camgirl" is probably is good, clear compromise and is specific to this job.
Lol wtf
 
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I feel sorry for the girls who live at home and their parents don't know about them being on MFC, what if their parents/family found out and they had to leave home?!
I must be an idiot then! My parents kicked me out not for being a camwhore (cos I wasn't one then) but just cos they didn't like my boyfriend!

After 6 years of living together, things got a little though financially (as I got made redundant), so I started camming. When my relationship ended four years later, I moved back home to my parents, and unfortunately throughout the pandemic (and struggling to get a job) I had to continue to cam to make money!

As much as I hate camming under their roof, there isn't much choice! I am doing unpaid voluntary work, just to be able to get into paid work again!!

Sometimes you just have to do what you have to do! That's life!
 
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This is why when I decided to work as a model, I didn't hide my choice from anyone. My family knew from day one as well as my friends. I am one of the lucky ones though, cos they supported me and my decision.
 
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"whore" is necessarily the most appropriate term, but "model" certainly isn't either. "camgirl" is probably is good, clear compromise and is specific to this job.
Calling camgirls models is, for me, more of a matter of respect. It just amazes me how they manage everything. Camming, making clips, promotion/social media, dealing with (annoying) members, doing make-up. All besides the other things like housework, sleeping, hobbies, going out, etc, etc. Not even talking about all the physical and mental strain.
If I was a model, there's just no way I could do all that. Cammodeling may be one of the hardest jobs someone can do. Using these bad words is totally disrespectful.
 
Calling camgirls models is, for me, more of a matter of respect. It just amazes me how they manage everything. Camming, making clips, promotion/social media, dealing with (annoying) members, doing make-up. All besides the other things like housework, sleeping, hobbies, going out, etc, etc. Not even talking about all the physical and mental strain.
If I was a model, there's just no way I could do all that. Cammodeling may be one of the hardest jobs someone can do. Using these bad words is totally disrespectful.

Yes, and thank you for having some respect, and being a better human being than that annoying MarkJanus guy. :h: Good grief. :facepalm:
 
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Calling camgirls models is, for me, more of a matter of respect.
I use “model” as a technical term, denoting the person in front of the camera without any judgment. I did a lot of photography for a while, and for me the word “model” neither implies glamour nor anything near sex industry, as MarkJanus insinuates. It just describes her role:

She is visible for the camera, thus she is the model.
 
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Calling camgirls models is, for me, more of a matter of respect. It just amazes me how they manage everything. Camming, making clips, promotion/social media, dealing with (annoying) members, doing make-up. All besides the other things like housework, sleeping, hobbies, going out, etc, etc. Not even talking about all the physical and mental strain.
If I was a model, there's just no way I could do all that. Cammodeling may be one of the hardest jobs someone can do. Using these bad words is totally disrespectful.
It can be pushed as much as they want.
So.. Some do 12 hours a day 7 days a week, to mass sites at once.
And multi tasking that mass for that long certainly isn't easy.

My friends looking at pushing the hours out more now from about 10h/7days to 18h/7 days...
Since she's considering adding sleep streaming.. And adding another 8 hours of streaming to her usual daily schedule.
 
Models. You need to realize this right now. ANY time you put something on the internet, it is there FOREVER. It can never be eliminated, and eventually it will be found by someone who you'd rather not find it.

For example, any time you are on cam, you should assume that images or videos of that cam show will be recorded and put on the internet forever. I'm talking private shows, group shows, and ESPECIALLY public shows. It's already the case that MFC owns the rights to all of said imagery and video, and can do with it what they like.

You may not like it when members record your shows and upload them to different places on the internet, and you can try hard to get those images taken down. Sometimes you may find that you are even successful with getting an instance of something taken down. But the truth is, once it's out there it is impossible to fully retract. All it takes is one person to have saved a copy of it before it got taken down, and it can be reposted again. There is jack shit you can do about it, so it is not worth your time trying to take it down. It will only delay the inevitable, and could in fact speed it up by pissing people off and making them post it more.

A lot of models use location-block in order to block people from their hometown and surrounding area from seeing them. This is a decent short-term solution, but in the end, it's pointless. There is absolutely no way to guarantee that people from your home town will never find out. All it takes is one time for someone you know from real life to be travelling out of state and see you online, or see your pictures. It is also easy for technically-savvy people to use a proxy to get around location blocks. The point is, location block is only a temporary solution, and there are ways around it. You will be found out. It is only a matter of time.

Let's say you're super lucky, and during your several-year stint as a camwhore, you are never found by someone you know in real life. You think you're off the hook? Along with all the imagery MFC has recorded of you and could sell at any point in time, you can bet that random members (and guests!) have taken lots of imagery too. It will be on the internet forever. 40 years down the road, your kids will stumble across naked pictures and videos of you on the internet. It's going to happen. This is reality, and there is nothing you can do to change it.

The point? If you don't want your friends and family to find out you're a camwhore, then don't become a camwhore. Don't want your grandkids to see videos of you anally fisting yourself? Then don't become a camwhore. Don't want the local authorities to find out you're a camwhore? I think I'm becoming redundant here.

Do you think your real-life identity is secret? All it takes is ONE person you know from real life to find you on MFC and leak your identity. It's going to happen eventually. Hopefully it won't happen for a while, but you need to be prepared for the day when it does happen, because mark my words, it will.

Once something is on the internet, it is there forever. Making an attempt to change that fact only makes you look stupid.
12 years later and ignoring the dumbass "Camwhore" terminology (ok bruh) but anyways....yeah. Once something is on the internet, it's there forever. Know this, and then choose to fucking own it. It's 2021. When you own who you are and are unapologetic about it, you give other people permission to step up and be/do the same. Sex workers also do have the ability to SHOW - lead by example - that living life as a sex worker, just like any other human with a job, CAN be done. We all have the ability to create our own realities.
 
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I would think that if a model drastically changed her name every so often that it would make it more difficult for people to find their vids.
 

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I'm just curious... Does anyone have personal experiences they are comfortable sharing where they hit that moment of "oh shit..." upon realizing this? Or maybe this is better suited to a models only page, lol.

Like- a lot of younger girls can read this post and get scared by it, but then quickly shake it off because it's never happened. I mean I'm just gonna be honest, I knew all of this before I did it. Whatever I post is most likely gonna end up somewhere else. Whatever I do- is going to be screencapped or whatever. The possibility is there- but admittedly, I got over that kind of quickly...
I guess maybe I'm asking if anyone here might lowkey regret getting into this job because of this reason.
 
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Lord knows why I am adding to this decade-old thread, but first I would say that the general premise of the OP is on-target, and one should probably engage in this business with the expectation that your own explicit content is "out there" and that it "will be found".

The past 11 years have helped in the way that the cam model market has been completely flooded such that if you're a short-term model, say, during one semester from your college dorm, your content will tend to get lost among the myriad porn of normal young women out there. The guy who crushed on you in high school WILL still pause and treasure your content IF he has cause to find it randomly among the many pirated videos of camgirl sessions.

When selecting a cam model name, there are two schools of thought:

1 - Select a considerably unique name so that you will stand-out in the minds and memories of those viewing your channel in the present (they'll be able to remember you more quickly).


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2 - Select a name that is both unique, and yet blends in very well among others so that somebody who googles "Sally Smith26" will get SO many other Google hits that finding your porn will be nearly impossible that way.


After so many years of new camgirl porn content having been pirated and put online, and of my having viewed so many camgirls during a parallel time frame... I am happy to report to you that it is only a small sliver of the models whose content keeps popping up in many various (unique) recordings many years after they left the business.

IF I could factor-out those still-current models who are truly successful and nearly famous, from the vast array of pirated camgirl content out there on the web, the recurrence of one individual (say, someone who was a camgirl for a semester while in college 4 or 6 years ago) is VERY miniscule... AND it gets so easily LOST amid the snowballing collections of pirated porn all over the place.


The OP also mentioned the idea of blocking out your home area... I would always do that (unless you're famous and thriving in the cam girl world). For it is one thing if some smarmy, porn-watching, middle-aged man from your neighborhood finds your porn and enjoys it... while eventually one day bothering to tell you as much in the parking lot of a nearby grocery store or restaurant... but it is quite another if the generally-non-porn-watching crowd is caused by something or someone to learn-of, and view your content. Those are people who have respect for you, and it would probably serve all involved to greatly reduce their chances of learning of your online porn content.

The greatest concern is not someone viewing your live show... but instead someone running across your content which is pirated and kept on the internet for months or years to follow. That is the reason why you should fully EXPECT that anything you put online will stay there and be found at times by people you'd really rather not have finding it.

The top cause for optimism is that webcamming is more popular than ever before, especially with Covid having inspired so many to try "working from home". That simply equates to more content being saved somewhere on the web... and eventually, when there is room for the very popular webcam models that many know how to search for by name, OR the occasional coed who cams from her dorm room to help pay her way through school, and then abruptly quits webcamming once she graduates... eventually the people storing and indexing pirated webcam shows on porn websites will stick with the girl who is more popular.

Keep in mind when choosing your webcam name, that if you choose "PolyPolyp414" or something THAT unique... it is very possible that your unique nickname can and will be used for years to follow by people still hunting for traces of your nude self on the internet.

Everyone knows a story or several about various individual web models who have battled having their content stolen and placed somewhere on the web at a porn site.


A person I know in real life was into webcamming for a bit back in 2014-2015. She to this day doesn't care too much that her content is out there. By now I know of just one address online at which one of her camgirl session tapes exists... and I... just about 'never' run across her content by accident. (but I can still search for her old camgirl nickname _ _ _ _ ####, and find at least the one long-online session).

BUT, if I didn't know that camgirl nickname, it would be way too much random porn surfing involved in attempting to find her nude content online.


Another girl, I recall having cammed with such initial excitement from her college dorm room, and she was so innocent and authentic, with a look of awe about her for the fact that 3000 men were in her room and happy to give her so much money so fast. She was a pretty college athlete far from home in either her first or second year. But she made the mistake of using a unique cam girl nickname that paralleled her instagram nickname/address... and the first person who paused to search for that nickname, was sharing her instagram details with the entire viewing audience.

She hastily logged-off never to return, and then surely went through lots of struggles in her college world as well as with her family, all for her having been preserved on the web for all to see.


Many years later I still on rare occasion find one or two of her clips while perusing porn sites.


However, if you tallied the entire number of webcam girls... or, even, the entire number of webcam girls who have ever had content recorded and placed on the web... in November of 2021 it is a very small percentage OF that vast number whose porn content is routinely run across by someone who searches for "Chaturbate" or "strip chat" on one of the popular porn websites.

Although I've watched chaturbate for a long while, if I went to one of the main few porn video websites and searched for "Chaturbate" there, it is a surprisingly small percentage of the unique cam girls there that I ever saw when they were "live" on CB.

And while a porn-loving male would surely *notice* his bright-redheaded neighbor with giant tits at any such point as when he randomly chanced upon her pirated porn content, it isn't extremely easy to just randomly find it, and IF the label on the porn is merely "red-headed hottie gets herself off" (and not "PolyPolyp414 gets herself off") then the same person won't have the means to search for still other content.


The long-ago OP of this thread made a sensible 'wake-up call', but time and trends are at least in favor of the model and her pirated and posted online content becoming lost in the shuffle.


Beyond that, in places such as Colombia and the like... webcamming is becoming just about mainstream with it being so popular there.... so tiz possible that will evolve to start becoming the case in far more places, which is also good news for those who eventually wish to disappear without a *trace* when the time comes.


Hope this is clear to most and puts some at relative ease.
 
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Yes, the op is spot on aside from the term camwhores.

But I think that should be a no brainer for people who make their living from camming.
I'm much more concerned about everyone else. You loose any control of any content you decide to put into the internet. I fear that the generation that grew up with the internet, turning up now as decision makers never knew real privacy and therefor see no reason to protect it.
 
Models. You need to realize this right now. ANY time you put something on the internet, it is there FOREVER. It can never be eliminated, and eventually it will be found by someone who you'd rather not find it.

For example, any time you are on cam, you should assume that images or videos of that cam show will be recorded and put on the internet forever. I'm talking private shows, group shows, and ESPECIALLY public shows. It's already the case that MFC owns the rights to all of said imagery and video, and can do with it what they like.

You may not like it when members record your shows and upload them to different places on the internet, and you can try hard to get those images taken down. Sometimes you may find that you are even successful with getting an instance of something taken down. But the truth is, once it's out there it is impossible to fully retract. All it takes is one person to have saved a copy of it before it got taken down, and it can be reposted again. There is jack shit you can do about it, so it is not worth your time trying to take it down. It will only delay the inevitable, and could in fact speed it up by pissing people off and making them post it more.

A lot of models use location-block in order to block people from their hometown and surrounding area from seeing them. This is a decent short-term solution, but in the end, it's pointless. There is absolutely no way to guarantee that people from your home town will never find out. All it takes is one time for someone you know from real life to be travelling out of state and see you online, or see your pictures. It is also easy for technically-savvy people to use a proxy to get around location blocks. The point is, location block is only a temporary solution, and there are ways around it. You will be found out. It is only a matter of time.

Let's say you're super lucky, and during your several-year stint as a camwhore, you are never found by someone you know in real life. You think you're off the hook? Along with all the imagery MFC has recorded of you and could sell at any point in time, you can bet that random members (and guests!) have taken lots of imagery too. It will be on the internet forever. 40 years down the road, your kids will stumble across naked pictures and videos of you on the internet. It's going to happen. This is reality, and there is nothing you can do to change it.

The point? If you don't want your friends and family to find out you're a camwhore, then don't become a camwhore. Don't want your grandkids to see videos of you anally fisting yourself? Then don't become a camwhore. Don't want the local authorities to find out you're a camwhore? I think I'm becoming redundant here.

Do you think your real-life identity is secret? All it takes is ONE person you know from real life to find you on MFC and leak your identity. It's going to happen eventually. Hopefully it won't happen for a while, but you need to be prepared for the day when it does happen, because mark my words, it will.

Once something is on the internet, it is there forever. Making an attempt to change that fact only makes you look stupid.
I remember the advice I was given when I started webcam work and before I did my 1st porno movie: It never goes away. Everybody who knows me knows what I do and I've never worried about "what if so and so finds out what I do/did." I've always believed in the saying "here I am and FUCK YOU if you can't understand me." Unfortunately for other people, I don't know how this works, but it's always the people they don't want to know they're doing webcam work who always find out they're working on the webcams. Also, there are some people out there who SUCK because they just like to get people in trouble. If you're considering a career in politics, active in a church, and/or have people who you don't want to know you're doing webcam work, you might want to think twice. Whatever decision you make, you are an adult and you accept the positives and negatives of any decision/s you make in life, webcam-related or not.
 
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Everybody who knows me knows what I do and I've never worried about "what if so and so finds out what I do/did." I've always believed in the saying "here I am and FUCK YOU if you can't understand me." Unfortunately for other people, I don't know how this works, but it's always the people they don't want to know they're doing webcam work who always find out they're working on the webcams. Also, there are some people out there who SUCK because they just like to get people in trouble. If you're considering a career in politics, active in a church, and/or have people who you don't want to know you're doing webcam work, you might want to think twice. Whatever decision you make, you are an adult and you accept the positives and negatives of any decision/s you make in life, webcam-related or not.
All fair points Danny. But I think the way society generally judges people's behaviour differently according to their gender is a huge factor in the decision-making for anyone working in, or considering working in, this industry.