SuzySmartz and her Smartz modles

[Bocefish]

Each person who enters her room already know the rules ..
I think something is wrong. The way it uses the mfc. I've seen use the mfc classes in college. You can see and hear fellow teachers in the classroom. You have to respect the privacy of students and teachers. Because some students did not know that it has connected the camera and this is bad .. because of privacy.
As for the rest ... all members know the rules. if not undress patience ..

WTF did he just say ????????

 

[Sevrin]

Each person who enters her room already know the rules ..
I think something is wrong. The way it uses the mfc. I've seen use the mfc classes in college. You can see and hear fellow teachers in the classroom. You have to respect the privacy of students and teachers. Because some students did not know that it has connected the camera and this is bad .. because of privacy.
As for the rest ... all members know the rules. if not undress patience ..

WTF did he just say ????????

I think he is saying that she did shows from her classroom at school, and that her fellow students and teachers were visible in the frame and could be heard and that these other people were unaware that their images and voices were being broadcast, and that she was not respecting their privacy. That kind of thing would appear to be contrary to MFC rulez, at the very least.

 

[Bocefish]

Ah OK, that makes sense now. I had no idea she did shows from her classroom.

 

[AmberCutie]

Each person who enters her room already know the rules ..
I think something is wrong. The way it uses the mfc. I've seen use the mfc classes in college. You can see and hear fellow teachers in the classroom. You have to respect the privacy of students and teachers. Because some students did not know that it has connected the camera and this is bad .. because of privacy.
As for the rest ... all members know the rules. if not undress patience ..

I am going to actually agree with something xander says!

I do think it's inappropriate to bring a live webcam feed into a room where you're surrounded by folks who don't know they're being broadcast.

 

[xander77]

as to do a print screen when she was in the classroom. But I forgot
could hear the teacher and you could see several colleagues. Boys and girls to take notes in class.
If she does nude in her bedroom in mfc .. We have to respect ..
Now take the mfc for a classroom ..
We have to respect colleagues ...
Now imagine that a member who is Suzy's room and sees a friend who is in that classroom?

Ps: Amber Thanks for agreeing with me. I know sometimes I'm wrong ...

 

[Jebbaz]

she announces that on twitter every day.

 

[Singularity1]

Find me a quote of Suzy calling some specific naked model a whore. Suzy is mostly kind, most of the time, to most of the MFC girls.

Big hairy deal if Smartz models want to be on MFC with clothes on. Why do you even care. Go poke something in your own self. Its her choice, not a law. Its a free country. Wear a parka on mfc if u want to. Wear no clothes on mfc. Do stupid pet tricks. Show naked pets. Hey like, all we are saying is give peace a chance.

And nobody has the right to tell models they cant join "Smartz" if they feel like it. Or sign a contract if they feel like it. Its that irritating free country thing again. The girls who join smartz are not robots and maybe they like already have similar values before they even meet Suzy. Consider that the Smart girls are merely tapping into a stream like a pre-existing underground current . Dar, apparently, other people really do feel the way she does, not least of whom are the guys. We'd just like to thank all the little people. If I could mention the increasing traffic online in dollars, tokens, controversy, and big ass buzz, all evidence you'd be hardon pressed not to notice.

And why wouldn't MFC allow a contract, especially exactly because people are signing on. Not wise to ignore a trend if you are in business to make money. The point being, as Smartz is gaining market share, mfc in turn gets a bigger piece of the action as new people bring in revenue. If the people want robed nice girls, then . . . the customer is always right. Otherwise Suzy can go make money elsewhere and her friends and clientele are free to choose to go with her.

Apparently the naked-only-nazis, NONs, feel threatened and want to outlaw the real-authentic-darlings, RADs.

Singularity1

 

[Bocefish]

LMFAO :lol: NONs and RADs

 

[LadyLuna]

The only thing most of us models have a problem with is her dissing those of us who take our clothes off.

If you read, most of us have defended her right to be non-nude. You're looking for the posts where the username is PURPLE for the model posts.

I have no problem with models who wish to be non-nude. As long as they don't say that I'm disrespecting myself or degrading myself for having fun my way, which does involve getting naked in public chat and sticking things in for pvt/grp.

 

[Sevrin]

Singularity1

You have to love a guy who not only signs his posts, but signs them "Singularity1". Redundancy within redundancy. Other than that you have a point. In fact, move over Suzy; there's a new sheriff in town. Let me be the first to welcome the newest camwhore and future junior senator from Delaware...

*NEW* ChristineSmartz !!!

 

[Jebbaz]

this thread is really getting childish.

 

[Bocefish]

this thread is really getting childish.

I have a feeling it's going to get even better now that we have the NONs vs. RADs terminology. :lol:

Are there not websites dedicated solely to cam girls that don't get nude? I'm almost certain there are at least a few, as there are escort services and massage parlors that are truly just as advertised.

I finally read the so-called smartz pledge and found it rather amusing, albeit naive and hypocritical. If girls don't want to get nude, no problem, to each their own. I do have a problem with people putting down models who choose to get naked on a site that is 99.9% in favor of doing just that. Not so long ago, MFC mandated that models get naked within one minute of accepting a private.

 

[MilaMilan]

Find me a quote of Suzy calling some specific naked model a whore. Suzy is mostly kind, most of the time, to most of the MFC girls.

Big hairy deal if Smartz models want to be on MFC with clothes on. Why do you even care. Go poke something in your own self. Its her choice, not a law. Its a free country. Wear a parka on mfc if u want to. Wear no clothes on mfc. Do stupid pet tricks. Show naked pets. Hey like, all we are saying is give peace a chance.

And nobody has the right to tell models they cant join "Smartz" if they feel like it. Or sign a contract if they feel like it. Its that irritating free country thing again. The girls who join smartz are not robots and maybe they like already have similar values before they even meet Suzy. Consider that the Smart girls are merely tapping into a stream like a pre-existing underground current . Dar, apparently, other people really do feel the way she does, not least of whom are the guys. We'd just like to thank all the little people. If I could mention the increasing traffic online in dollars, tokens, controversy, and big ass buzz, all evidence you'd be hardon pressed not to notice.

And why wouldn't MFC allow a contract, especially exactly because people are signing on. Not wise to ignore a trend if you are in business to make money. The point being, as Smartz is gaining market share, mfc in turn gets a bigger piece of the action as new people bring in revenue. If the people want robed nice girls, then . . . the customer is always right. Otherwise Suzy can go make money elsewhere and her friends and clientele are free to choose to go with her.

Apparently the naked-only-nazis, NONs, feel threatened and want to outlaw the real-authentic-darlings, RADs.

Singularity1

Maybe you should read the posts models put on here , before you start ranting.....
Most models have zero problems with the 'Smartz' girls not getting naked...Hell for all I care she can go on dressed like an Eskimo.
If there are guys willing to tip her for that I could care less...

The problem the models who do get naked have with Suzy is the way she behaves 'holier than holy'. Her words: we have no self esteem.... Yes really.....

So next time you come on here defending your beloved Suzy, maybe read the posts first ...

What's next in this 'Smartz Revolution' and your absolute leader Kim Il Suzy: we all need to become non-nude vegans?

 

[Jebbaz]

Mila I dont like your signature, thats the first time I've ever read it.

 

[Bocefish]

Its a free country. Wear a parka on mfc if u want to. Wear no clothes on mfc. Do stupid pet tricks. Show naked pets.

Apparently the naked-only-nazis, NONs, feel threatened and want to outlaw the real-authentic-darlings, RADs.

Singularity1

Are we to assume there is also a revolution to dress pets?

Are the dogs outside of smartzville now considered naked-only-dog-nazis, NODNs?

What about the cats?

 

[SatanJonez]

Its a free country. Wear a parka on mfc if u want to. Wear no clothes on mfc. Do stupid pet tricks. Show naked pets.

Apparently the naked-only-nazis, NONs, feel threatened and want to outlaw the real-authentic-darlings, RADs.

Singularity1

Are we to assume there is also a revolution to dress pets?

Are the dogs outside of smartzville now considered naked-only-dog-nazis, NODNs?

What about the cats?

My cat is a NOCN for sure.

 

[EveCates]

Everyone keeps speaking of her "message". Her "revolution" and "trying to make a change". I guess I don't quite understand the point. Why exactly does she want us to all pretend we are non-sexual beings and that the way the industry is needs to change? Sexuality, desire, attraction, these are all some of our most BASIC human instincts. That's why this industry exists. We are sexual beings. Every single one of us whether you admit it or not, and yea some people would like to pay to have urges fulfilled and clearly some of us are more than happy to get paid to do it.

I for one love that I can express my sexuality through my job. The naked body is so natural, being sexual is SO natural. It is nothing shameful, scary, weird, or gross. She keeps talking about dignity. Who is she to judge someones dignity? Who is she to say someone must be ashamed because of what they choose to do on cam? It all sounds like a bunch of self-entitled, holier than thou bullshit she pulled straight out of her ass. In my opinion, if you are going to try to cam as a non-nude model, at least have a personality, she is so god damn boring.

 

[SatanJonez]

I couldn't help it:

The Smartz Pledge

I, ____Smartz, promise to uphold the Smartz ideals which include the following: I promise to support women in their fight to be seen as equal to men in the workforce.

Trust me, we're equal in this case. Woman in the sex industry make at least 30% more. That's not just cam models, but porn stars, prostitutes and strippers. If you want to fight inequality in the work place check EVERYWHERE ELSE. Even huge companies have stated they only hire females and minorities when they are needed to, to show they are equal opportunity employers.

I promise to support women for being themselves on cam 100% of the time. I promise to spread the word of decency across the lands about real women being honestly entertaining.

Holy shit, I guess I'm pretty fucking awesome. I'm real AND I feel comfortable enough to get naked at the drop of a hat. I'm also very honest and open with my fans about what I like/don't like and will/won't do. I don't kiss ass just because some dick bag has a fuck load of tokens. Frankie Chemical is who I am, she's just naked a hell of a lot more cause she can be.

I hereby, sworn in my name, to take the pledge as a Smartz Fan, and to only support women who keep their dignity while on cam.

What exactly is the definition of dignity in this case? Keeping your clothes on? I can do a shit load of naughty things with clothes on. I have a fantastic imagination and a lovely sex drive.

Imagination. Education. Equality.

Xoxo Suzy Smartz

I have a dream that all women are one day equal with men in the corporate world, political world, and relationship world.(Go on laugh it up…) So far women are officially equal to men on the relationship field in the fact that they don’t look down on each other anymore for being whores, sluts, tricks, etc. It’s not whoredoms that I want to rant about, it’s dignity. I can’t believe how women take their bodies to the utmost bottom level of sales, sticking random objects up themselves to make RENT! How do I make well over my rent in a month by keeping my clothes on? Well maybe if you took the pledge and joined my Revolution I can teach you, but right now I’m ranting because I’m enraged. It’s not that I’m against nudity, personally. It’s just that in the entertaining realm, in the “adult site” realm, you can make nudity sexy as hell, and still not raw and raunchy. I know some women enjoy it, and let them be who they want to be, but it’s just sad to see the ones who want different. I want to help the women on cam who look sad, and don’t know they can be entertaining in way more wholesome and fun ways, than doing a cucumber.

Okay, I get that some models are into a "raunchier" form of camming. I won't name names, but PinkSockMilf had her pink sock with a NERF bat up her butt LONG before she started camming. You can tell that just from the way her asshole can easily fit a fist or two up there. Cam whores usually have their sexuality set in their minds before they start camming.

Also, most of those "sad" models you see are, 80% of the time bored. Those are the chicks who get online day after day and do the exact same thing. They have a script that runs through their minds. They're not sad, they're concentrating on what move comes next. And how much time has ticked pass so they can count how many tokens they earned.

I want my girls to succeed. I want my company to go far. I want to find women who are on the same page as me in this succession, who will work daily towards a better world for all of us. Men want real women. Contrary to the popular belief, there is more to men than blowjobs, steaks, and sports. They want a real connection when they settle down after drinking their beers and finishing their sports. They don’t just wanna cum on your tits and get the fuck out, GIRLS! No matter what GAMES you play, men have feelings too. All people want to be loved at the end of the day, And I don’t mean FUCKED. I mean loved, with companionship, and a chance for a future. When I work in this industry seeing women sell their bodies and holes for mere cents to the dollar, I get sick. Why can’t you just do what I DO? And now we have reached the all famous question, “How do you do it Suzy?”

MFC is NOT a dating site. We are for all intents and purposes fantasies to the people watching us. Some are more truthful fantasies than others. I, for one, have always made it known: I'm married. Not to say some models like to keep that information private and they have a right to. Being married and not saying it in this industry, in my opinion, is not leading anyone on. If you need to know what read the first six words of this sentence again.

And because I enjoy masturbating. I love being sexual. Once again, it's awesome. And because I don't want to.

Education. Is. The. Issue.



It all started with the want to go to a better school, and so I hopped on cam and did my homework. School is back again and we will be broadcasting live before, during, and after class!

So why am I ranting? Why Am I mad? Because my message isn’t getting sent. People may believe in Smartz for a day, but then click Next Model, pay a girl 2 dollars for her naked body, jerk off, and fall asleep forgetting about dignity, morals, and all that crap holding them back from whats making them happy at each next waking moment. Who cares about the well being of the earth, and womankind right?>…….

Welcome to the human race my dear. Life SUCKS. As "whores, sluts, and raunchy tricks" we provide a nice vacation from what people deal with on a daily basis while at the same time getting away from our own troubles. If someone wants to come into my cam room and stare at my ass for a quick pick me up, no way in fuck I'll deny them that. And in return a lot of the time when I'm feeling down these people cheer me up.

I care. I care too much. I work too hard; I don’t work hard enough. I work hard enough to get what I want, and pay my rent each month. I care enough to try and do something to better this world, starting with women in the industry. I’m a non-nude missionary trying to spread my message, but currently a fish out of water. I’m flipping around trying to get girls to realize, this is the platform to entertain men on a level that they really haven’t seen.

They have seen it. Back in the days where seeing a chicks ankle was the equivalent of a modern day hardcore porn. Why go backwards? As women, in this industry WE hold the power. Especially in camming. For once in the work force we can do whatever the fuck we want. Nude or not. If Suzy makes any money she's proof of that as much as Amber is.

When will people learn that all I am is a 20 year old girl with a whole bunch of energy, hope, and faith in what I believe? When will people start to follow the ambition in my heart to make a company of women who can entertain on a real level, from their own homes, from their own hearts, and morals? When will this dream come true? And how fast is the ball rolling? When will people hop on the Smartz Train?

TODAY.

Let’s start today. The Campaign is NOW!

Xoxo Suzy Smartz

It's actually awesome that she has so much ambition and faith in the human race. Go her, honestly. But thinking that nudity and sexuality are some how degrading women when they use it as a force to wield power instead of having it used against us like it has been for hundreds of years.

And the whole "morals" thing. Jesus balls. I have morals believe it or not. I know right from wrong. But everyone has a different opinion of what that means much like what I said with "dignity" earlier.

Sorry for the long ass post, but I read it and couldn't help adding my own opinion. I hope this chick is going to law school because she'll make a fabulous politician some day.

/rant

 

[Daisy]

Wow.. I would have never read that diatribe if it wasn't quoted in Frankie's post. That shit sounds a whole lot like it was a forced ideology rammed down her throat by someone else. I wonder what College she goes to, I'm going to guess Berkley or something of the like... looks like someone had a very influential Professor at one point really do some serious after hours brainwashing.

As most of the other Models have said, I personally don't care if someone takes their clothes off or not. I really don't care what's going on in the other room next to me or the one before. That's their business.. But don't tell me, 1. I can't/shouldn't do something (because I'm just going to do it anyways) and 2. That I have no self esteem for doing so. Holy shit, it takes a whole lot of self confidence/esteem to put your bare body on display for thousands of people to see. Some people have a hard time just looking in the mirror at themselves naked at home! MFC has made me more confident and empowered as a Woman then anything else in my life ever has.

Besides, didn't Jennifer23 already do this on MFC? She was a non-nude model for a long time before Suzy's Crew. I think that was her name, she always wore the sweater and had that one camera angle. Maybe Jennifer23 should sue for copyright infringement.. Or maybe Jennifer23 is secretly behind the scenes pulling the strings of this revolution.. hmm the plot thickens.. :lol:

 

[SatanJonez]

I effed up on some of it because I was in a typing frenzy, but yeah. I made my point now I'll go back to shutting the fuck up. :lol:

Also, at least Jennifer23 (or whatever number it was) didn't really talk shit. If a model came at her, she'd defend herself, but I don't remember her ever saying that she was better than anyone else. Just that she didn't want her nude body on the internet for all to see.

 

[Daisy]

If a model came at her, she'd defend herself, but I don't remember her ever saying that she was better than anyone else. Just that she didn't want her nude body on the internet for all to see.

Yes, that's her.. I never had any problems with her at all because she didn't stick her nose in others business. You are right, I don't ever remember her putting other Models down. I guess that was an unfair comparison to Jennifer. I think she did fairly well too and didn't ruffle any feathers..

 

[MilaMilan]

Mila I dont like your signature, thats the first time I've ever read it.

Sarcasm is an acquired taste Jebbaz......

 

[MilaMilan]

I couldn't help it:

The Smartz Pledge

I, ____Smartz, promise to uphold the Smartz ideals which include the following: I promise to support women in their fight to be seen as equal to men in the workforce.

Trust me, we're equal in this case. Woman in the sex industry make at least 30% more. That's not just cam models, but porn stars, prostitutes and strippers. If you want to fight inequality in the work place check EVERYWHERE ELSE. Even huge companies have stated they only hire females and minorities when they are needed to, to show they are equal opportunity employers.

I promise to support women for being themselves on cam 100% of the time. I promise to spread the word of decency across the lands about real women being honestly entertaining.

Holy shit, I guess I'm pretty fucking awesome. I'm real AND I feel comfortable enough to get naked at the drop of a hat. I'm also very honest and open with my fans about what I like/don't like and will/won't do. I don't kiss ass just because some dick bag has a fuck load of tokens. Frankie Chemical is who I am, she's just naked a hell of a lot more cause she can be.

I hereby, sworn in my name, to take the pledge as a Smartz Fan, and to only support women who keep their dignity while on cam.

What exactly is the definition of dignity in this case? Keeping your clothes on? I can do a shit load of naughty things with clothes on. I have a fantastic imagination and a lovely sex drive.

Imagination. Education. Equality.

Xoxo Suzy Smartz

I have a dream that all women are one day equal with men in the corporate world, political world, and relationship world.(Go on laugh it up…) So far women are officially equal to men on the relationship field in the fact that they don’t look down on each other anymore for being whores, sluts, tricks, etc. It’s not whoredoms that I want to rant about, it’s dignity. I can’t believe how women take their bodies to the utmost bottom level of sales, sticking random objects up themselves to make RENT! How do I make well over my rent in a month by keeping my clothes on? Well maybe if you took the pledge and joined my Revolution I can teach you, but right now I’m ranting because I’m enraged. It’s not that I’m against nudity, personally. It’s just that in the entertaining realm, in the “adult site” realm, you can make nudity sexy as hell, and still not raw and raunchy. I know some women enjoy it, and let them be who they want to be, but it’s just sad to see the ones who want different. I want to help the women on cam who look sad, and don’t know they can be entertaining in way more wholesome and fun ways, than doing a cucumber.

Okay, I get that some models are into a "raunchier" form of camming. I won't name names, but PinkSockMilf had her pink sock with a NERF bat up her butt LONG before she started camming. You can tell that just from the way her asshole can easily fit a fist or two up there. Cam whores usually have their sexuality set in their minds before they start camming.

Also, most of those "sad" models you see are, 80% of the time bored. Those are the chicks who get online day after day and do the exact same thing. They have a script that runs through their minds. They're not sad, they're concentrating on what move comes next. And how much time has ticked pass so they can count how many tokens they earned.

I want my girls to succeed. I want my company to go far. I want to find women who are on the same page as me in this succession, who will work daily towards a better world for all of us. Men want real women. Contrary to the popular belief, there is more to men than blowjobs, steaks, and sports. They want a real connection when they settle down after drinking their beers and finishing their sports. They don’t just wanna cum on your tits and get the fuck out, GIRLS! No matter what GAMES you play, men have feelings too. All people want to be loved at the end of the day, And I don’t mean FUCKED. I mean loved, with companionship, and a chance for a future. When I work in this industry seeing women sell their bodies and holes for mere cents to the dollar, I get sick. Why can’t you just do what I DO? And now we have reached the all famous question, “How do you do it Suzy?”

MFC is NOT a dating site. We are for all intents and purposes fantasies to the people watching us. Some are more truthful fantasies than others. I, for one, have always made it known: I'm married. Not to say some models like to keep that information private and they have a right to. Being married and not saying it in this industry, in my opinion, is not leading anyone on. If you need to know what read the first six words of this sentence again.

And because I enjoy masturbating. I love being sexual. Once again, it's awesome. And because I don't want to.

Education. Is. The. Issue.



It all started with the want to go to a better school, and so I hopped on cam and did my homework. School is back again and we will be broadcasting live before, during, and after class!

So why am I ranting? Why Am I mad? Because my message isn’t getting sent. People may believe in Smartz for a day, but then click Next Model, pay a girl 2 dollars for her naked body, jerk off, and fall asleep forgetting about dignity, morals, and all that crap holding them back from whats making them happy at each next waking moment. Who cares about the well being of the earth, and womankind right?>…….

Welcome to the human race my dear. Life SUCKS. As "whores, sluts, and raunchy tricks" we provide a nice vacation from what people deal with on a daily basis while at the same time getting away from our own troubles. If someone wants to come into my cam room and stare at my ass for a quick pick me up, no way in fuck I'll deny them that. And in return a lot of the time when I'm feeling down these people cheer me up.

I care. I care too much. I work too hard; I don’t work hard enough. I work hard enough to get what I want, and pay my rent each month. I care enough to try and do something to better this world, starting with women in the industry. I’m a non-nude missionary trying to spread my message, but currently a fish out of water. I’m flipping around trying to get girls to realize, this is the platform to entertain men on a level that they really haven’t seen.

They have seen it. Back in the days where seeing a chicks ankle was the equivalent of a modern day hardcore porn. Why go backwards? As women, in this industry WE hold the power. Especially in camming. For once in the work force we can do whatever the fuck we want. Nude or not. If Suzy makes any money she's proof of that as much as Amber is.

When will people learn that all I am is a 20 year old girl with a whole bunch of energy, hope, and faith in what I believe? When will people start to follow the ambition in my heart to make a company of women who can entertain on a real level, from their own homes, from their own hearts, and morals? When will this dream come true? And how fast is the ball rolling? When will people hop on the Smartz Train?

TODAY.

Let’s start today. The Campaign is NOW!

Xoxo Suzy Smartz

It's actually awesome that she has so much ambition and faith in the human race. Go her, honestly. But thinking that nudity and sexuality are some how degrading women when they use it as a force to wield power instead of having it used against us like it has been for hundreds of years.

And the whole "morals" thing. Jesus balls. I have morals believe it or not. I know right from wrong. But everyone has a different opinion of what that means much like what I said with "dignity" earlier.

Sorry for the long ass post, but I read it and couldn't help adding my own opinion. I hope this chick is going to law school because she'll make a fabulous politician some day.

/rant

what more is there to say.....

 

[morment]

I hope this chick is going to law school because she'll make a fabulous politician some day.

the thing is that if she does actually try to get into politics her career as a non-nude cam model will still come back to bite her on the ass.

also, wanted to say that I loved the rest of the rant too, just didn't need to copy it all over again.

 

[Sevrin]

I hope this chick is going to law school because she'll make a fabulous politician some day.

the thing is that if she does actually try to get into politics her career as a non-nude cam model will still come back to bite her on the ass.

also, wanted to say that I loved the rest of the rant too, just didn't need to copy it all over again.

She was a nude model before she got religion.

 

[AmberCutie]

Find me a quote of Suzy calling some specific naked model a whore. Suzy is mostly kind, most of the time, to most of the MFC girls.

Big hairy deal if Smartz models want to be on MFC with clothes on. Why do you even care. Go poke something in your own self. Its her choice, not a law. Its a free country. Wear a parka on mfc if u want to. Wear no clothes on mfc. Do stupid pet tricks. Show naked pets. Hey like, all we are saying is give peace a chance.

And nobody has the right to tell models they cant join "Smartz" if they feel like it. Or sign a contract if they feel like it. Its that irritating free country thing again. The girls who join smartz are not robots and maybe they like already have similar values before they even meet Suzy. Consider that the Smart girls are merely tapping into a stream like a pre-existing underground current . Dar, apparently, other people really do feel the way she does, not least of whom are the guys. We'd just like to thank all the little people. If I could mention the increasing traffic online in dollars, tokens, controversy, and big ass buzz, all evidence you'd be hardon pressed not to notice.

And why wouldn't MFC allow a contract, especially exactly because people are signing on. Not wise to ignore a trend if you are in business to make money. The point being, as Smartz is gaining market share, mfc in turn gets a bigger piece of the action as new people bring in revenue. If the people want robed nice girls, then . . . the customer is always right. Otherwise Suzy can go make money elsewhere and her friends and clientele are free to choose to go with her.

Apparently the naked-only-nazis, NONs, feel threatened and want to outlaw the real-authentic-darlings, RADs.

Singularity1

It really does seem that you didn't read any of the other posts in this thread. If it was a pure hate for Suzy thread, I would have shut it down long ago. For the most part, we are discussing her ideals and her statements, not bashing her in anyway. Well except maybe that she needs to word things differently since she's coming off a tad bit high and mighty. And that her rap is more spoken word poetry... but really we aren't hating on her. Go back and read it all.

 

[LaylaAnn]

Ok, so I think we can all agree that we are in this field of work because we ENJOY it. We are grown women with the freedom to do as we choose ( thanks to the REAL feminist leaders). With that said, I dont like how she goes after the "sad" girls who have to, and Im paraphrasing here, shove things in them to make rent. Typical over privileged child. I`m sure she has no clue what it is like to be a woman in another country, or a single mom with no support system, or no means to seek a higher education. How dare you look down your nose at someone you could most likely not survive a day in their shoes. Get over yourself

 

[LaylaAnn]

Oh and I really dont appreciate the implication that if I get nude I am immoral with no dignity. NON?? Really? So if I get naked I`m a nazi?? The only way to be authentic is to subscribe to her belief system? RAD? I prefer CMP...close minded prude.

 

[LaylaAnn]

Find me a quote of Suzy calling some specific naked model a whore. Suzy is mostly kind, most of the time, to most of the MFC girls.

She doesn`t need to name a specific model. The generalization is there. Also, mostly kind, most of the time, to most of the girls. Unless another model gives her a legitimate reason, it should be ALWAYS.

Ok I`m done now...LOL

 

[Bocefish]

A good cult following consists of idealism, dissatisfaction with self, disillusionment with the world, coinciding with frequent periods of psychological vulnerability or confusion and seeking purpose. Cult victims are attracted by the enthusiasm, devotion, and commitment of a purpose. Cult recruiters capitalize on this by offering to satisfy these needs and membership usually promises improvement of society in one form or another.

Sounds eerily similar to what is going on with the so-called smartz revolution. Just sayin'. :whistle: