Why Cam girls rip me off ?

[fandango]

On the topic of destroying the MFC economy I don't think thats even true. From when I started visiting MFC most models still have things like countdowns and flashes, snapchat etc all about the same price some models charge more than others but they are still mostly in the same ranges. Privates and group shows still cost the same and tokens still cost the same so with inflation it means MFC is actually less expensive in real terms than it has ever been.

 

[Influenced]

Your being hella selfish if you think that your work panty is worth $50 your not fucking celebrities

First you are a moron. Second, if you value what they offer so much then they are a celebrity to you, third if you want it, they can charge whatever the hell they want to charge for it. If you do not like it then move on. Supply and demand, they have done the math and even if they haven't, like amber said she (if she ever did decide to do it) would charge 5k for it, hell charge 10k for em, if they want them bad enough they will buy them, seriously coming here and complaining about this crap is boring.

 

[Influenced]

you can buy a 8pack from walmart

sigh

 

[JoleneBrody]

sigh

I would charge 5000 tokens just for making me go to Wal-Mart

 

[EspiKvlt]

Panty value packs are for laundry day not for panty selling.

 

[Influenced]

I would charge 5000 tokens just for making me go to Wal-Mart

Yeah that was my point Jolene. All I could manage was a sigh due to the lameness of going to walmart I have to admit though the 8-pack made me laugh.--Just for the record though I would charge 10,000.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Incidentally, would anyone like to buy my boxer shorts? I also have an old pair of Y-fronts that I don't wear any more because they have a hole in the seam of the crotch but that I haven't thrown out yet. I mean, they're still a perfectly acceptable pair of pants (or 'underwear' for the American contingent. I'm not trying to sell my trousers here. That would be ludicrous). They're still of a wearable quality, ya know? I don't want to talk them down or anything, but I don't want to have to deal with refunds and exchanges when you inspect them and notice the hole in them either.

 

[Shutterbuck]

Incidentally, would anyone like to buy my boxer shorts? I also have an old pair of Y-fronts that I don't wear any more because they have a hole in the seam of the crotch but that I haven't thrown out yet. I mean, they're still a perfectly acceptable pair of pants (or 'underwear' for the American contingent. I'm not trying to sell my trousers here. That would be ludicrous). They're still of a wearable quality, ya know? I don't want to talk them down or anything, but I don't want to have to deal with refunds and exchanges when you inspect them and notice the hole in them either.

What's your best price? I mean, like, I can go down to the salvation army and get a garbage bag of holy shorts for $3 soooo...

 

[Violet Dawn]

Im gonna ignore the bullshit comments like grammar and buy them yourself im in the usa and yes this modern day broken bastard language you call English is my first and not by choice .

Now about the price of P.O box's and privacy, ladies please stop the bullshitting i have a P.O box aswell and its not the tippers job to pay for your p.o box and the panty. Sure shipping could cost alot but truth is it doesn't if 900tkn = $50 then your fucking taking advantage of a person, a desperate person . Your talking about security for yourself what about the guy that is buying we have to give our address as well we dont know what kind of stalker you may have or crazy drugged up boyfriend or john/trick that could come after us if he finds our address or p.o box .

Your being hella selfish if you think that your work panty is worth $50 your not fucking celebrities , its just sad that there are so many losers on the site inflating every damn thing. There girls dont even do the shit we tip for sometimes ..... But the dumbest thing on my part is to expect some moral or compassion from a bunch of Jezebel hussies .

This is a business, not a hand out. If you want dirty panties so bad go out in the dumpster and dive for them yourself. They seem to be soooo important so you shouldn't have a problem with that, right?

 

[AudriTwo]

I will pray for you @illusionxox .

 

[JezebelHussy]

Hey @illusionxox donate to $50 to my Patreon today and I will send you not one, but EIGHT, that's right, EIGHT soiled panties.

 

[ImWillTheBloody]

This guy probably picketed when (insert fast food joint) changed their "dollar menu" into a "value menu".
He probably riots when restaurants add a gratuity (if he has enough friends for that to be a problem).

 

[John117mcpo]

I kinda felt bad for the beard guy. This one is so far beyond the pale though that I half-suspect it's a put-on. *resumes sitting down, shutting up, and listening, as is proper for a noob*

 

[ThePrincessLuxy]

First "best of ACF" 2017

 

[mynameisbob84]

What's your best price? I mean, like, I can go down to the salvation army and get a garbage bag of holy shorts for $3 soooo...

A bidding war has unexpectedly broken out in my PM box. Highest bid currently stands at $700.13, a pack of gum, and a broken NES controller.

 

[Shutterbuck]

A bidding war has unexpectedly broken out in my PM box. Highest bid currently stands at $700.13, a pack of gum, and a broken NES controller.

Meh... Maybe I'll just get a real hooker instead.

 

[LilyPink]

Bwhahahaha 1:20 douchebag to awesome people ratio.

This thread is probs going to be a great resource for anyone writing a paper on the whiney entitled consumers of the sex industry.

 

[DrNecessiter]

As someone who has suffered the non-delivery of promised items a couple of times (a custom video and a valentines day box, not panties) I mostly blame myself for jumping in feet first and tipping for things before I'd gotten to know the model in any depth. Now I just stick to models I have dealt with on a long term basis and know will deliver. Has it made me a more cautious tipper? Yes. Do I blame all models for the foibles of a few? No. Did I consider complaining to MFC support? Yes. In the end, could I pay the psychic price of hounding someone who was clearly in a worse mental place than myself? No.

 

[cherrybomb1111]

I'm at the bottom of the totem pole so I don't charge much for panties. I can see some women charging a lot because they cam full time and have a boatload of other responsibilities. Plus they are high end models and any services they provide will be pricey.
I charge $25 and use an alternative payment. $5 for a cute pair of panties that I was going to wear anyways. Sad to see them go sometimes. $4 for the shipping. And $1 for the packaging (Dollar tree). That's gives me $15 profit to drop off a package at the post office that I pass everyday during my daily drive. No return address obviously. I have a guy that filled his Christmas stocking with my worn panties. He calls them air fresheners. Haha! Anyways it really sucks that some models don't follow through. Because it's makes it way harder for the rest of us to make sales. I run into a plethora of members that are always hesitant to spend because they have been scammed so many times. Makes the job difficult.

 

[cherrybomb1111]

And for all the people attacking this guy for being "whiney", I think he was more upset that the model didn't deliver on her end. Obviously he wanted the product otherwise he wouldn't have tipped multiple times for it. Anyone in their right mind would be pissed if they bought something and never received it. It's not like money is super easy to come by. $80?? That's my internet bill. I think the vent is completely justified.

BUT on the other hand.. there's no need for the name calling. Yea your pissed at one particular model but you won't find much sympathy from the models here by calling us degrading names.. unless they are into that kinda thing. Chill...

 

[Phoenix4987]

If no reconciliation can be reached, the best course of action is just to deprive future business and contact. Products like videos, panty sales, etc, are generally saturated in the cam market and these types of things don't usually require any commitment on the member's end to gain a model's trust/favor for them to become available.

 

[JoleneBrody]

And for all the people attacking this guy for being "whiney", I think he was more upset that the model didn't deliver on her end. Obviously he wanted the product otherwise he wouldn't have tipped multiple times for it. Anyone in their right mind would be pissed if they bought something and never received it. It's not like money is super easy to come by. $80?? That's my internet bill. I think the vent is completely justified.

BUT on the other hand.. there's no need for the name calling. Yea your pissed at one particular model but you won't find much sympathy from the models here by calling us degrading names.. unless they are into that kinda thing. Chill...

You are obviously a very forgiving person but just as a general, please know that if a person is mad at someone else they do not have an excuse to be terrible to you in an effort to make themselves feel better by lashing out. It is not normal healthy human behavior, nor is it excusable. there is nothing in this world that a stranger has ever done that means YOU deserve to be treated like garbage.

Maybe I've been doing this too long, but this post honestly made me very concerned for you, especially knowing you are still very new.

I know this makes me look like a condescending asshole, but please know it's not my intention.

 

[AmberCutie]

Yeah it sucks when people get scammed/ripped off by a fellow cam girl, as it paints the whole community in a bad light. But I think the moral of this story/thread is that you can choose only one of the following:

1. Vent and rant about getting ripped off or scammed so forum members will come and sympathize with you
or
2. Bitch and moan about cam girls charging what you believe is too much

When you do both at the same time, especially on a forum full of cam girls who don't hesitate defend our taboo and risky job, the first 1st is going to get lost in the mess of everyone yelling at you for your 2nd point. Just not a smart move.

And for all the people attacking this guy for being "whiney", I think he was more upset that the model didn't deliver on her end. Obviously he wanted the product otherwise he wouldn't have tipped multiple times for it. Anyone in their right mind would be pissed if they bought something and never received it. It's not like money is super easy to come by. $80?? That's my internet bill. I think the vent is completely justified.

BUT on the other hand.. there's no need for the name calling. Yea your pissed at one particular model but you won't find much sympathy from the models here by calling us degrading names.. unless they are into that kinda thing. Chill...

See the above quote.

 

[Nordling]

I'm just pissed that he insulted our language! All languages are "bastard languages," in the sense that all languages have evolved over time, borrowing from other languages, and adding new words from scratch. English has the largest lexicon of any language on the planet, and thus you can describe just about anything you can imagine--and in a host of ways--meaning you can shade your speech to be as subtle or as blunt as you choose.

Shakespeare would slap you.

 

[AmberCutie]

I'm just pissed that he insulted our language! All languages are "bastard languages," in the sense that all languages have evolved over time, borrowing from other languages, and adding new words from scratch. English has the largest lexicon of any language on the planet, and thus you can describe just about anything you can imagine--and in a host of ways--meaning you can shade your speech to be as subtle or as blunt as you choose.

Shakespeare would slap you.

I also love that he blames his native language for his terrible typing and grammar mishaps.

 

[cherrybomb1111]

You are obviously a very forgiving person but just as a general, please know that if a person is mad at someone else they do not have an excuse to be terrible to you in an effort to make themselves feel better by lashing out. It is not normal healthy human behavior, nor is it excusable. there is nothing in this world that a stranger has ever done that means YOU deserve to be treated like garbage.

Maybe I've been doing this too long, but this post honestly made me very concerned for you, especially knowing you are still very new.

I know this makes me look like a condescending asshole, but please know it's not my intention.

You are right. There is no excuse. I am just understanding of the human condition called emotions. I don't believe the comments were directed at me but cam models in general. Obviously being ripped off for a lot of money has envoked a lot of anger, frustration, and mistrust between the member and models. He is one of many many members that will no longer pay for their porn and support models because of the handful of lazy models who scam men for money and never intend to follow through with their promises. It's just sad is all. No need to feel concern for me. I know where my boundaries are and I enjoy establishing them Everytime I am on cam. So there's that.

 

[ExcellaExe]

I'm just pissed that he insulted our language! All languages are "bastard languages," in the sense that all languages have evolved over time, borrowing from other languages, and adding new words from scratch. English has the largest lexicon of any language on the planet, and thus you can describe just about anything you can imagine--and in a host of ways--meaning you can shade your speech to be as subtle or as blunt as you choose.

Shakespeare would slap you.

Especially since Shakespeare gave us a good chunk of our words. Around 200 original words and tweaking another thousand, give or take. He was great at inventing words we didn't otherwise have.

 

[PrincessSnowAngel]

so this week ive been ripped off on 100 dollars worth of gift cards, lost several hours due to "pm me for pvt" runarounds, and 50 dollars on a video i had sent expecting what i thought was a going to be a "regular" who had sworn up and down they wanted a custom and wanted a sample clip to see what type of quality videos i make. where can i go to bitch about that? never mind i dont bitch about my own poor judgments.

 

[Sevrin]

Especially since Shakespeare gave us a good chunk of our words. Around 200 original words and tweaking another thousand, give or take. He was great at inventing words we didn't otherwise have.

Actually, he probably didn't invent those words, at all.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2013-08-19/did-william-shakespeare-really-invent-all-those-words

 

[yummybrownfox]

Ok , im gonna keep this short and blunt for the 3rd no pardon me the 4th time now ive tipped a girl for her panty and she doesnt send them and while the token economy keeps inflating because of wishful guys and girls taking advantage of them , We the movers/tippers of the site run a higher risk of losing money to a lien little bitch!

And to be honest sites like this doesn't help the economy of mfc because now you will have some noob girl coming here seeing what the new "standard " is for stuff and she will put it up ""forcing"" the "veterans" to raise there limit . just this month on one girl i lost like $144.97 (custom vid + Panty) on a girl whos profile looked legit seemed legit. And fucking
900tkn is waaaaay to much for worn underware you can buy a 8pack from walmart for like $8 for 900 tokens it cost like $80 USD do you girls really think this is fair cause its obviously not .

p.s 900tkn is cheap for panties now days they go for like 1300 round that park ridicules .

I started feeling sorry for you for not getting what you tipped for, but then you started whining about 900 tokens for worn panties. Lol. You're buying a personal item of hers (could even be her favorite pair that she now is parting with) that contains her DNA (Some models would be weirded out by that thought alone). And we wouldn't charge you the same amount that we paid for the underwear. That's silly. Also, mailing it to you isn't free.

For a cam site where you get to see a lot of stuff for free, some of you guys sure do complain a lot.