Why do I pay for cams when can watch free?

[Ppeter5]

Yeah could be a mistake, or could be a scam.

Yes i found it to be a scam from her. I have also taken up with the site i am on that she had whatsapp for sale and asked a few times if i would buy photos,then on the last lot not deliver the photos its been 2 weeks now. and because they are sent via whatsapp i will not get a refund. Even though agreed through the site on sending them and payment sent through site.they are not interested because it is being sent via whatsapp. Which is crazy

 

[Deleted member 37064]

While I understand why it can be frustrating to members to watch people freeload, I would remind them they don't know what's really going on sometimes. I have a guy that my room probably all assumes is a freeloader, but when he comes in he drops usually 4-10 1000token tips. I can make 4000-10000 tokens off him in a matter of an hour. He never wants anything for them and he tips them as a "ninja" so the room cant' see them. That's his business. I also have members who have been big tippers in the past and no longer can and they are honestly, always welcome. I understand that might be frustrating to see someone sit there and tip nothing day after day but 3 years ago that person spent over $10,000 on me when he got his inheritance. It's not something anyone but me and that person need to know but ???

This is why I don't call anyone out, or ask others to tip a model. I tip hidden, or ninja, myself quite often. I know others tip ninja or hidden, and aside from a model's reaction, no idea what the general amount might be.

Things do change for people over the years, I know mine certainly has.

 

[Smoothie]

This is why I don't call anyone out, or ask others to tip a model. I tip hidden, or ninja, myself quite often. I know others tip ninja or hidden, and aside from a model's reaction, no idea what the general amount might be.

Things do change for people over the years, I know mine certainly has.

Yes, calling people out is a bad look. I never do it either.

Just because we can tip doesn’t give us the right to shame others.

 

[Danigirl]

I'd still rather take 10 tokens from a member who stayed 4 hours than no tokens.

Here's my thoughts on the discussion in general:

I don't like "perma" freeloaders - people with no intent to pay ever. However, I don't mind folks hanging out chatting in my room when they are unable to tip for days, weeks etc. Life happens. Right now Covid has seriously impacted many of my regulars incomes. I want them to keep coming in my room. partly cos I give a shit about them, they've shown they give a shit about me. And partly because, if they were to say.. go away for a month or two and return when they have enough to spend again, that's when you LOSE people. They get into other hobbies, the memory fades a bit. If you keep folks engaged and invested in your community when they can tip, they will.

Also, frankly, if everyone who was not able to tip that day or tip "sufficient or better" to what they saw/how long they stayed my room would be far less chatty and entertaining. There is something to be said for a positive contribution to a chatty/fun room atmosphere. I'm NOT saying it replaces an obligation to tip, it does not. But it does help me keep my room fun and helps me find new tippers.

While I understand why it can be frustrating to members to watch people freeload, I would remind them they don't know what's really going on sometimes. I have a guy that my room probably all assumes is a freeloader, but when he comes in he drops usually 4-10 1000token tips. I can make 4000-10000 tokens off him in a matter of an hour. He never wants anything for them and he tips them as a "ninja" so the room cant' see them. That's his business. I also have members who have been big tippers in the past and no longer can and they are honestly, always welcome. I understand that might be frustrating to see someone sit there and tip nothing day after day but 3 years ago that person spent over $10,000 on me when he got his inheritance. It's not something anyone but me and that person need to know but ???

And yeah im thinking of some specific situations, but the point is .. you never know what's going on between a member and a model. You don't know how much the guy tips, spends on other sites. I've had a basic hang out in chat that tell me they can't seem to get tokens on MFC (for whatever reason) But they buy shit loads of my porn on other sites. I verified it was him..

I guess I just see the big picture. I also want to mention that I am aware I'm talking about a specific type of chat room style, and that this won't apply to all cam models or sites. But that's how I approach it.


One other thing to note - I know many of my regulars financial situations. As such the guy making what I suspect is high 6 figures a year ..were he to drop a 10 tokens and stays all day.. that might be a little more insulting to me than the guy I know works at Walmart dropping 10 tokens and staying all day. I don't provide 'sliding scale' services but I do make a mental note of it in relation to their situation if I'm aware of it. If someone on a low income saves up and drops a huge tip, honestly it does mean more to me than someone for whom the big tip may be far less of a financial burden.

This! I love seeing members who spoiled me in my room regardless if they're tipping that night or not. They are my supporters. I tend to get a ton of grays on one site because I'm usually in the top 10 rooms when I'm on. If each gray tipped a couple tokens I'd have an extra $100. Every tip counts and I thank every one who tips. I had one of my big tippers in my room on Friday but he left because my lovense tip queue was backed up (never a bad thing) and he likes it when he gets the reaction as soon as he tips. Some people called him out for not tipping and I just lost it on them. They weren't tipping but thought because he was there that he would handle all the tips and they'd get a free show. That's bullshit. Dont ever ask another member to tip for you. Especially not this tipper. He has a special spot in my heart because he tips insane amounts and has never ever been anything but completely respectful and wonderful to me. Zero demands.

I also have dudes that tip me on Onlyfans then watch on cam. Of course I want them watching me on cam too. Don't expect them to tip both places. If you found my show enjoyable, tip what you can when you can. And don't be rude or demanding. All good then.

 

[Smoothie]

I had one of my big tippers in my room on Friday but he left because my lovense tip queue was backed up (never a bad thing) and he likes it when he gets the reaction as soon as he tips. Some people called him out for not tipping and I just lost it on them. They weren't tipping but thought because he was there that he would handle all the tips and they'd get a free show. That's bullshit. Dont ever ask another member to tip for you. Especially not this tipper.

Thank you for this story (and for appreciating your regulars so much... it’s reassuring).

I have had this happen to me in rooms where I’m a big tipper. It’s one thing if I get a strong sense the “non-tipping regulars” are expecting/waiting for me to fund the show by myself. But I’ve also been confronted in chat by non-tippers trying to tell me how to tip. That’s a special kind of ballsy/entitled.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Thank you for this story (and for appreciating your regulars so much... it’s reassuring).

I have had this happen to me in rooms where I’m a big tipper. It’s one thing if I get a strong sense the “non-tipping regulars” are expecting/waiting for me to fund the show by myself. But I’ve also been confronted in chat by non-tippers trying to tell me how to tip. That’s a special kind of ballsy/entitled.

Yep, same here. The first few times I had it happen, I kind of let it slip. Then, after that is when I changed my tipping habits to ninja tips. Personally, I don't care if a show makes it all the way to a cumshow, oil show, or whatever is at the end. I'm there to enjoy time with the model, and many times I can't stay long enough for it to get to the end.

While I get what @Miss_Lollipop @Danigirl and other models are saying about people who tip elsewhere then come join them on the camsite being welcome. I do have a question in regards to this: From a chatroom perspective only, if they do not contribute towards to topic at all, is it really much different? It'd be like someone buying merchandise then coming to the concert and walking in expecting others to cover the price of admission for them. Again, IMO, if you're there enjoying then please contribute something while there.

Not hating, only raising this up as a point of discussion.

 

[CheeseMoon]

Dont ever ask another member to tip for you.

I wholeheartedly agree, and in my experience grey members who do this are (mostly) just ignored, unless the mod or knight is of the abrasive type and just can't let the equally abrasive asshole off the hook. Not all guys are good at eating humble pie, and not all mods/knights are content with just shutting people up. And ... models can't really be expected to ban greys while a Domi and a buttplug is in full swing with a tip queue the length of equator.

However, I have seen someone tipping on a grey user's behalf, but I'm not sure what that was all about. Patronizing, bizarre humor or an in-joke, I guess.

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

Yep, same here. The first few times I had it happen, I kind of let it slip. Then, after that is when I changed my tipping habits to ninja tips. Personally, I don't care if a show makes it all the way to a cumshow, oil show, or whatever is at the end. I'm there to enjoy time with the model, and many times I can't stay long enough for it to get to the end.

While I get what @Miss_Lollipop @Danigirl and other models are saying about people who tip elsewhere then come join them on the camsite being welcome. I do have a question in regards to this: From a chatroom perspective only, if they do not contribute towards to topic at all, is it really much different? It'd be like someone buying merchandise then coming to the concert and walking in expecting others to cover the price of admission for them. Again, IMO, if you're there enjoying then please contribute something while there.

Not hating, only raising this up as a point of discussion.

Not that black and white to me. Example: bob buys his videos on manyvids because Bob prefers their system. That morning Bob buys a $10 video. Later that night Bob joins my room and doesn't tip. Jimmy is also in my room that night. Jimmy finds the exact same video on my share page for 100 tokens. He buys it while I am online and 100tks comes ofc my countdown.

Both members contributed the same amount to my earnings that day, for the exact same thing. Both can chill in my chat and be welcome.

 

[Danigirl]

Yep, same here. The first few times I had it happen, I kind of let it slip. Then, after that is when I changed my tipping habits to ninja tips. Personally, I don't care if a show makes it all the way to a cumshow, oil show, or whatever is at the end. I'm there to enjoy time with the model, and many times I can't stay long enough for it to get to the end.

While I get what @Miss_Lollipop @Danigirl and other models are saying about people who tip elsewhere then come join them on the camsite being welcome. I do have a question in regards to this: From a chatroom perspective only, if they do not contribute towards to topic at all, is it really much different? It'd be like someone buying merchandise then coming to the concert and walking in expecting others to cover the price of admission for them. Again, IMO, if you're there enjoying then please contribute something while there.

Not hating, only raising this up as a point of discussion.

I don't run a goal so I don't care what platform the funds come from. I have a few campaigns on mfc share for toys etc but not for shows.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Not that black and white to me. Example: bob buys his videos on manyvids because Bob prefers their system. That morning Bob buys a $10 video. Later that night Bob joins my room and doesn't tip. Jimmy is also in my room that night. Jimmy finds the exact same video on my share page for 100 tokens. He buys it while I am online and 100tks comes ofc my countdown.

Both members contributed the same amount to my earnings that day, for the exact same thing. Both can chill in my chat and be welcome.

If you run topics, or have specific goals in your chatroom, then it's different. The money earned on MV might count towards your overall revenue goal. But, not towards the chat room topic such as the one on the Share page. Now, I'd say they're similar if the sale of Share video doesn't count towards topic.

I don't run a goal so I don't care what platform the funds come from. I have a few campaigns on mfc share for toys etc but not for shows.

Question to both of you, or other models, do you know all the screen names of your followers on their different sites? Can you tell the difference between a silent member who's never tipped/paid across any of your platforms or a member who follows you on a content site but doesn't tell you they're there?


It's not so much about people being welcome or unwelcome. It's more about the onus being placed on camsite members to meet goals, topics, etc. for a model to continue broadcasting. If you're fine with a content site member coming to visit and hang without tipping in a chatroom (goals or not), then you're fine giving paid content away to your camsite tippers on from your clipsite? If you think about it, content members get a two-for-one in this aspect. Whereas camsite members have to tip both places to get equivalent content. I doubt either of you would continue camming if the tips from the camsite dried up and all your revenue came from content sites.

This is why I view content/clip sites as being completely separate from camsites. They are different mediums, and if one takes part in both, they should tip appropriately. Though, of course this bring another equation into the mix, and that is available money the particular member has. To which, they then should decide how to distribute it across one, or both sites.

Hopefully this makes sense.

 

[Danigirl]

If you run topics, or have specific goals in your chatroom, then it's different. The money earned on MV might count towards your overall revenue goal. But, not towards the chat room topic such as the one on the Share page. Now, I'd say they're similar if the sale of Share video doesn't count towards topic.





Question to both of you, or other models, do you know all the screen names of your followers on their different sites? Can you tell the difference between a silent member who's never tipped/paid across any of your platforms or a member who follows you on a content site but doesn't tell you they're there?


It's not so much about people being welcome or unwelcome. It's more about the onus being placed on camsite members to meet goals, topics, etc. for a model to continue broadcasting. If you're fine with a content site member coming to visit and hang without tipping in a chatroom (goals or not), then you're fine giving paid content away to your camsite tippers on from your clipsite? If you think about it, content members get a two-for-one in this aspect. Whereas camsite members have to tip both places to get equivalent content. I doubt either of you would continue camming if the tips from the camsite dried up and all your revenue came from content sites.

This is why I view content/clip sites as being completely separate from camsites. They are different mediums, and if one takes part in both, they should tip appropriately. Though, of course this bring another equation into the mix, and that is available money the particular member has. To which, they then should decide how to distribute it across one, or both sites.

Hopefully this makes sense.

Who said we were giving anything away? I do all my shows in the freechat because I make more per hour there than I would in a trueprivate for the hour. Plenty of grays get it too. Guys send me tips on onlyfans just because a lot of the time. I have a lot of content on OF that I don't have on cam sites and vice versa. I'm just happy that guys like my show and content enough to contribute.

 

[Miss_Lollipop]

If you run topics, or have specific goals in your chatroom, then it's different. The money earned on MV might count towards your overall revenue goal. But, not towards the chat room topic such as the one on the Share page. Now, I'd say they're similar if the sale of Share video doesn't count towards topic.

I run goals/countdowns but not everyone is there for that? There is a lot more to the experience of being in my room than twiddling ur thumbs waiting for the cum show. The way you view that is just way too simplistic.

Question to both of you, or other models, do you know all the screen names of your followers on their different sites? Can you tell the difference between a silent member who's never tipped/paid across any of your platforms or a member who follows you on a content site but doesn't tell you they're there?

not always. Thats why i try not to assume.

It's not so much about people being welcome or unwelcome. It's more about the onus being placed on camsite members to meet goals, topics, etc. for a model to continue broadcasting. If you're fine with a content site member coming to visit and hang without tipping in a chatroom (goals or not), then you're fine giving paid content away to your camsite tippers on from your clipsite?

uh, people can buy the vids when im live on mfc and they count to goals. So...??? How is that any different.

And clearly if im doing public shows im fine giving away things that are not behind a paywall. Im FAR more comfy with a clipsite buyer watching my chat than a basic who never goes prem or a member who never tips ever.


Honestly if it bugs members so much to be in a room where they feel like others are not pulling weight, then they should frequent models who only do shows behind paywalls. Mfc is simply NOT built that way and i believe you're setting yourself up for a frustrating experience if you expect it to be that way. I am noticing a swing back towards paywalled shows and content so maybe the freemium bubble will burst.

If you think about it, content members get a two-for-one in this aspect. Whereas camsite members have to tip both places to get equivalent content.

no they dont? Camsite members can spend while im live and get a video PLUS it counts to the countdown. Bonus for them.

I doubt either of you would continue camming if the tips from the camsite dried up and all your revenue came from content sites.

The clip sites are there as my back up should that happen... but they also generate traffic. Some folks may sit and never tip but some do, and tip more. I think I would still go live on some free platform in some way if i wasnt being tipped because my live stream always drives traffic to twitter, onlyfans, clip sales...Theyre not as separate as u make out.

 

[Lelo1]

have made it more affordable by staying out of PM =)

If you're tipping, Private shows aren't necessarily more expensive.
There are models at almost every price point.

I'm working on the goal - was too slow though - she PM'd me - said had to go

Reading a room is very important.

Some times people have regular hours, and they can't stay late. So tipping to show if they have to go, does you no good.

As an example:
If some ones show goal is 200, and you only have 50, then you ether have to be ok with the perks and no show.
OR see if they'll do a private for 50.
Or find some one else who who will take 50. Ether as part of a goal or private.

 

[Beawaresweety]

I've read many replies and I totally respect other models' point of view.
But it works a little different for me, that's why I said what I said.

I'm a private based model, I don't have a huge following base, I don't set "goals", I don't do public shows and I pay personal attention to people who tip me.

I barely get tips "just because".
People usually tip for my content (which is fine, I appreciate!) or for PM.

I don't want to sound tacky but I have the feeling that I have to work off every single token I get. I have to deal directly with every person who tips me.

That's why I'm less tolerant.
I give enough and even a little more than enough to people who pay me. But if they stop paying me, I stop providing the service. And I won't allow them to take my time and energy away for weeks or months.

My room is really good for those who want to have some sexy private time and who want to be noticed and heard.
Freeloading in a generic sense is pretty much pointless there. No freebies. But sometimes people want to take my energy and time away and not pay a nickel for it. I guess, my room is perfect for this weird form of freeloading.

So yeah, I see other points and respect other people's opinions but to each their own. And the system that works for a public based model, would never work for a private based model.

 

[MarieElise]

I am also a private based model, so for the most part I don't like people lingering, who are not paying.

However, that being said, since I really don't do anything in free chat, other than feet flashes, topless flashes, and light flirting. I genuinely don't mind folks, who are not paying that night, hanging out. My caveat is that they stay mostly silent, and that if they do contribute to the convo, it's something positive and friendly, to everyone. I also don't want them to interrupt me a ton, when I'm talking privates and potential privates, with members who are considering a show, right then, at that moment.

But if someone who doesn't spend much on streamate, but buys my clips elsewhere, wants to hang in my free chat, when I am on, fine. Maybe they like my smile or something, or they are bored and lonely, and that's fine with me. I just ask, that if I speak directly to them, that they respond. Also that they do not demand much/ any individual attention. There have been a lot of times, when I just honestly appreciate a conversation that I am having in free chat, that's related to music, or something nonsexual. So that's fine, as long as they are totally open to me leaving abruptly, at any time, for a show. I also want them to be open to the fact that some days I genuinely enjoy silence, and just sitting emoting, silently (while I fidget). It kind of makes me laugh, often, to have someone just hang out silently, and to try to out silent and out stare them It just strikes me as very funny.

 

[Smores]

The first reason to tip is to just show appreciation for the model. Some of them do this for a living. Others just want some extra spending money. In either case, there is nothing sadder than seeing a model trying to do her best and having an audience of zombies fail to acknowledge her effort. Without expecting anything back, I think it just common courtesy to show her that you like what she is doing.

The second reason to tip is to help create energy in the room, which ultimately improves the model's self confidence and often improves her performance. How you do that can be tricky, since you never want to simply overwhelm the room. At that point all the other tippers stop and let you carry the room. If someone is tipping X tokens in a yellow wall, I will send X once for every three times he sends. That reinforces his energy without taking away his feeling that he is king of the room. I try to look for ways to subtly encourage the tips sent by other users, in the hope that we can get three or more of us all supporting the show.

 

[Lelo1]

One other thing to add about tipping. How a model respond to tips can be reflection of how they might respond in private. So tipping can be a way to establish trust between tipper and model. And it could be a gauge of what a private might be like.

If you tip from their menu, do you get what you tipped for? Was it prompt? Did they make it fun and entertaining? All good signs.

Or did they forget about the tip? Do you have to ask again? Do they try to skip out on tips? Did it take 5 minutes? Did they seem board? Because any of those things could be problematic in privates.

 

[Finchomatic]

One other thing to add about tipping. How a model respond to tips can be reflection of how they might respond in private. So tipping can be a way to establish trust between tipper and model. And it could be a gauge of what a private might be like.

If you tip from their menu, do you get what you tipped for? Was it prompt? Did they make it fun and entertaining? All good signs.

Or did they forget about the tip? Do you have to ask again? Do they try to skip out on tips? Did it take 5 minutes? Did they seem board? Because any of those things could be problematic in privates.

As for the promptness, it all depends on how busy the room is at the moment and if the broadcaster is on 2-3-4 sites at once.

 

[Danigirl]

I've read many replies and I totally respect other models' point of view.
But it works a little different for me, that's why I said what I said.

I'm a private based model, I don't have a huge following base, I don't set "goals", I don't do public shows and I pay personal attention to people who tip me.

I barely get tips "just because".
People usually tip for my content (which is fine, I appreciate!) or for PM.

I don't want to sound tacky but I have the feeling that I have to work off every single token I get. I have to deal directly with every person who tips me.

That's why I'm less tolerant.
I give enough and even a little more than enough to people who pay me. But if they stop paying me, I stop providing the service. And I won't allow them to take my time and energy away for weeks or months.

My room is really good for those who want to have some sexy private time and who want to be noticed and heard.
Freeloading in a generic sense is pretty much pointless there. No freebies. But sometimes people want to take my energy and time away and not pay a nickel for it. I guess, my room is perfect for this weird form of freeloading.

So yeah, I see other points and respect other people's opinions but to each their own. And the system that works for a public based model, would never work for a private based model.

That's the great thing about camming. You get your money however best it suits you. You ban whoever you want. You set the vibe for your room however you want. You're in charge! I love seeing the different ways to succeed. Personally, I hate privates. I hate feeling I have to do whatever they want (unless it crosses my boundaries) for however long they want. Maybe I'm viewing it wrong or maybe it's just my personal preference. I love having the freedom in the freemium to make it my show and do whatever the hell I want. It works for me and I make my money. The income is worth the freeloading hassle and I've got a great group of tippers most of the time. It's also my personal fetish/kink to be watched so there's that too. But every model has their own groove and it's awesome to see others success.

 

[Finchomatic]

That's the great thing about camming. You get your money however best it suits you. You ban whoever you want. You set the vibe for your room however you want. You're in charge! I love seeing the different ways to succeed. Personally, I hate privates. I hate feeling I have to do whatever they want (unless it crosses my boundaries) for however long they want. Maybe I'm viewing it wrong or maybe it's just my personal preference. I love having the freedom in the freemium to make it my show and do whatever the hell I want. It works for me and I make my money. The income is worth the freeloading hassle and I've got a great group of tippers most of the time. It's also my personal fetish/kink to be watched so there's that too. But every model has their own groove and it's awesome to see others success.

As a customer/client, I dislike privates based on the fact that I have no clue how to keep it going longer than 10 minutes as a singular person.

 

[Beawaresweety]

That's the great thing about camming. You get your money however best it suits you. You ban whoever you want. You set the vibe for your room however you want. You're in charge! I love seeing the different ways to succeed. Personally, I hate privates. I hate feeling I have to do whatever they want (unless it crosses my boundaries) for however long they want. Maybe I'm viewing it wrong or maybe it's just my personal preference. I love having the freedom in the freemium to make it my show and do whatever the hell I want. It works for me and I make my money. The income is worth the freeloading hassle and I've got a great group of tippers most of the time. It's also my personal fetish/kink to be watched so there's that too. But every model has their own groove and it's awesome to see others success.

Dani, what a great topic to discuss!

Why I absolutely love privates:
1. I love the fact that someone pays for my time. I know I'm gonna earn what I want to earn, for doing some naughty things I'm comfortable with (I discuss privates before going to reduce the risk of unpleasant surprises for both of us).

2. I don't have to do anything if I'm not getting paid.
I don't have to keep it entertaining for the whole room. I really don't know how to work with a big audience. It may get weird and awkward really fast. That's why I respect and adore public based models who actually know how to keep it going in the front of so many people.

3. I suck big time at multitasking and I'm a little bit of control freak. I feel like I'm losing control when I can't manage all the little things in my room.

4. I know how to make someone happy (cum, lol) during an 1-1 interaction. I love catering to different fetishes.
I've got a huge imagination so I can produce a shit ton of fantasies. Just let me know what you like and I'll create a whole new universe for us.
I'm not so sure about what "I love". I love getting paid.
I also love sleeping, eating, playing with my cat... Ah, are you asking about sex? Well.. dunno but it wouldn't be so entertaining to watch.
Plus, I don't want to mix up my own weird or boring preferences with my show that must be pleasant for others (in my opinion).

My private life is my private life and camming is camming.
And the next point steams from the previous one:
5. I love freedom and privacy. I did a private show, I made someone happy (cum), they left my room. That's it. I'm free to do anything. If I want to leave, I can do that.
If I feel like doing some more privates, I can do that.

I've got some health issues so I don't have any energy to stay in touch with my fans offsite. I also don't have to wait for someone to reach a goal I may have set.

I'm free to log off once I feel bad (mostly physically) or once my financial goals for the day have been reached. And so I know no one is left disappointed. If they wanted to spend some sexy time with me, they probably did. If they didn't, not my problem.

What a wonderful feeling!

So yeah, camming gives us freedom, gives us choice, give us many opportunities. We do what we want, the way that fits us the best.

That's why camming is so cool.

 

[MarieElise]

As a customer/client, I dislike privates based on the fact that I have no clue how to keep it going longer than 10 minutes as a singular person.

I don't think you necessarily need to keep it going more than 10 minutes. Unless I'm missing something.

 

[Beawaresweety]

I don't think you necessarily need to keep it going more than 10 minutes. Unless I'm missing something.

Yeah. Private shows over 15-20 minutes quickly become tiresome for both participants.

And I believe that's a model's job to keep it going in a private show.
A member is there to enjoy the performance. Not to come up with a shit ton of ideas how to keep the show interesting for a model.

 

[jekster]

Yeah. Private shows over 15-20 minutes quickly become tiresome for both participants.

And I believe that's a model's job to keep it going in a private show.
A member is there to enjoy the performance. Not to come up with a shit ton of ideas how to keep the show interesting for a model.

My Last private went for over 2 hours.. I must be the exception

 

[Smores]

My Last private went for over 2 hours.. I must be the exception

My last one went 2 hours and 15 minutes, and I honestly felt like it was all rushed. I would say with the vast majority of models it is under 20 minutes, and that is about the time to explore what they have to offer. The model I was with for a longer time has become a good friend, and I would not spend that amount of time with most models.

 

[CheeseMoon]

[...] and I would not spend that amount of time with most models.

I did pvt exactly once in my member "career", and it was total shit and a complete turnoff. I never did it again. Wrong model, wrong me, wrong everything. I don't know.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Honestly if it bugs members so much to be in a room where they feel like others are not pulling weight, then they should frequent models who only do shows behind paywalls. Mfc is simply NOT built that way and i believe you're setting yourself up for a frustrating experience if you expect it to be that way. I am noticing a swing back towards paywalled shows and content so maybe the freemium bubble will burst.

I've been on MFC for over four and a half years, so I'm not setting myself up for a frustrating experience. Nor am I looking at it "just way too simplistic".

But, I'm just going to say thank you to you and Danigirl for your answers. Both of you misunderstood my question, and I don't have the time to try and explain it more than I already have. So, I'll just leave it as it is.

 

[Makko]

I took a few privates. And they were all close to an hour. They were absolutely great, but, I want to make each private a bit different than the former. Because if each private is the same, I just as well could have watched the older ones which are in my Archives. I really want to do more privates, but this is a big obstacle for me.

 

[Danigirl]

I've been on MFC for over four and a half years, so I'm not setting myself up for a frustrating experience. Nor am I looking at it "just way too simplistic".

But, I'm just going to say thank you to you and Danigirl for your answers. Both of you misunderstood my question, and I don't have the time to try and explain it more than I already have. So, I'll just leave it as it is.

Yeah don't have time to try to show or explain why i don't feel ripped off in how I do my business either

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Yeah don't have time to try to show or explain why i don't feel ripped off in how I do my business either ✌

It's not about a model feeling ripped off, which is why I think you misunderstood.