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[lsqueen]

Hello @punker barbie . Please assist me.

Could you check if I have any restrictions on my account? Bcs i haved 40th place on contest stats 700+ viewers but site never added me to the main page.or new users are logging in very slowly, even though I haven't disabled the ads .Its weird and sad. My account: lsqueen

This has been going on for several broadcasts and sometimes I am simply not shown on the site. There are enough colored users in the room, I don’t know what this problem is connected with. I have been working for 7 years and this is the second time I have had this.

 

[cbhours]

Hello @punker barbie . Please assist me.

Could you check if I have any restrictions on my account? Bcs i haved 40th place on contest stats 700+ viewers but site never added me to the main page.or new users are logging in very slowly, even though I haven't disabled the ads .Its weird and sad. My account: lsqueen

This has been going on for several broadcasts and sometimes I am simply not shown on the site. There are enough colored users in the room, I don’t know what this problem is connected with. I have been working for 7 years and this is the second time I have had this.

Are you sure? Your follower growth is very high for such short broadcasts if you arent hitting the first page.

The position in the API also indicates that you are hitting the main page (even factoring in the newer recommended slots for anonymous viewers).

 

[lsqueen]

Are you sure? Your follower growth is very high for such short broadcasts if you arent hitting the first page.

The position in the API also indicates that you are hitting the main page (even factoring in the newer recommended slots for anonymous viewers).

Yes, since the beginning of August, my rating has dropped below 96% since July 27th, and viewers have been slowing down, and there are few purple ones. It feels like the room is empty. This has happened before. I've now returned to 100%, but for now, traffic is slow and sporadic. It seems like nothing else has changed

 

[lsqueen]

Hello @punker barbie . Please assist me.

Could you check if I have any restrictions on my account? Bcs i haved 40th place on contest stats 700+ viewers but site never added me to the main page.or new users are logging in very slowly, even though I haven't disabled the ads .Its weird and sad. My account: lsqueen

This happened after three dislikes on the page. Viewers suddenly disappeared. I've now restored the rating, but nothing has changed.



This has been going on for several broadcasts and sometimes I am simply not shown on the site. There are enough colored users in the room, I don’t know what this problem is connected with. I have been working for 8 years and this is the second time I have had this.


I also wrote to support twice, but they don’t answer me.

 

[hidden_evelina]

Hi there.

It's not about dislikes that you had mentioned.

I have 0 dislikes and I have been in a worse position than you are for about 2 months now. It's the new algorithm that has downgraded some rooms. You're not the only one and you did nothing wrong. Some specific rooms have been affected by the change harder than others (I suspect the ones that were making money fast : 4-5k tokens per hour on average in my case before, but I might be wrong). Before the update I had 1000-2000 viewers after 2-3 hrs of camming and awesome tips that kept coming in non stop. Now I have only 250 viewers on average and hardly anyone new enters my room. I show my pussy or the squirt goal is super close and the number of viewers is going down. No joke. There's such a slowdown in my show now that nobody has seen in 9 years of my camming career on CB. People started massively unfollow me as they arent used to "no show in my room" (I have a bot that shows me the number of unfollows and I'm shocked). I've been camming for 9 years and have almost 800k followers. After the update everyone in my room disappeard. I now only depend on a handful of regular 500-1000tk supporters who pay my bills. Before the change I had new big tippers daily because of good exposure on page 1.

Anyway, I dont give up and continue doing my thing as there's nothing I can do about that. Maybe that's a sign I need to retire... . Trust me I'm the biggest loser to that change. You at least have 700 viewers and still quite a good spot on page 1. Take an advantage of that.

Good luck to you. Just keep doing what you're doing and things will be good.

 

[lsqueen]

Oh, I have pretty much the same thing you're describing. Yesterday there were 300 people and nothing else moved. I've always relied on more than just the audience, but now sometimes it feels like most people are broke. I work with anal fuckmachine and use giant toys


it feels like it's being artificially held back


Thanks for the support, I'm not giving up. It's just a little easier now that I'm not alone. I had good traffic for all eight years, even when I quit for a year. I got it all back, but now this is happening. I was making money quickly, just like you. I hope everything gets better.

 

[hidden_evelina]

The site stopped being token driven after all those years. Before, the tips were taking models higher and higher on the front page so new tippers joined and the show became crazy. Model, tippers and viewers had lots of fun. Now CB "force" the model's current followers to do that job and they can't do it everyday that's why you see quiet viewers and no tips. Shows like yours or mine have become dead because of lack of decent number of new visitors.

That's sad but that's how CB decided that they wanted their site to work and there's nothing we can do about it.

 

[AmberCutie]

Have you been having this same issue since February of this year?

Thread 'Help or Advice'

Feb 24, 2025

Hello @punker barbie . Please assist me.

Could you check if I have any restrictions on my account? Bcs i haved 40th place on contest stats 700+ viewers but site never added me to the main page. Its weird and sad. My account: lsqueen

This has been going on for several broadcasts and sometimes I am simply not shown on the site. There are enough colored users in the room, I don’t know what this problem is connected with. I have been working for 7 years and this is the first time I have had this.

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[hidden_evelina]

Back in February 2025 there was a maxiumum number of fake Russian viewer bots running on CB that were pushing many popular rooms to page 2 and letting small rooms that used those fake bots take their places on front page. But that's an old issue and sorted. So things looked similar back then. I was kept on page 2 for ages with 300 viewers and couldnt get to page 1 for ages while in January I had easily 2000 viewers in no time.

 

[bamdicted]

Something doesn't smell right

 

[cbhours]

The site stopped being token driven after all those years. Before, the tips were taking models higher and higher on the front page so new tippers joined and the show became crazy.

how far back you talking? i am not aware of the site ever being token driven

 

[Vixxen81]

how far back you talking? i am not aware of the site ever being token driven

It's always been viewer driven but there was a time where active tipping was thought to be the second driving force for rank. Specifically, big tips.

 

[punker barbie]

Hello @lsqueen I have confirmed that the support team has responded to your inquiry. Ticket #24963499

 

[hidden_evelina]

Alright. I didn't mean that the site was 100% token dependent but the tipping used to have a great impact on the room placement. It just always attracted lots of new viewers and more tippers in busy rooms because there was a permanent action.

Hard tipping or yellow walls consisted of at least 15+ tk tips from a few tippers in the certain type of rooms (cum/squirt tease) was making them fly at great speed to high places with over 1000+ viewers where the tips from new tippers didnt stop coming in there for longer. Since the change it's a slower growth for these rooms no matter the tips. They just stuck at certain places with a particular number of viewers and the room doesnt move much no matter how big or fast people are tipping. My favorite girls are my_moon_light and nyconik but they're losers to the change just like me. No more 20ish tippers per hour. Our shows slowed down horribly as we lost good exposure from tipping and don't have access to new tippers and it's not about economy or holidays. The change was overnight with the new algorithm.

Unfortunately, I myself got stuck with 250 viewers within the first 2 hrs of camming which had always been long enough for me to leave. Even though they tip me hard my room doesnt move from the tips as fast as it did before the algo change (I lost visibility). Tippers come in, the goal is about to be reached, I take off my panties, show pussy, and the viewers are leaving lol WTF). That's what happened to my show. No exposure no new tippers lots of dead moments suddenly.

I feel that similar thing happened to those fuck machine shows that the creator of this thread does. They grow with the tips too.

That's why I said the site stopped being token driven as it applies to the show I and some others make.

 

[Dan Epstein]

Please don’t roast me for my questions.
When we say ranking do we mean the placement in the mosaic like homepage? Does it guarantee higher conversion rates?
I do vanilla paid campaigns for a living, so maybe I’m overthinking it and I’ve been away from the industry for too long.

 

[Squinkle]

My favorite girls are my_moon_light and nyconik but they're losers to the change just like me.

I also lost to this change. My viewers were cut in half. I make 6000 tokens per hour on CB, on average (which hasn't changed even after the algorithm change occured). I see no reason I should be locked at ~350 viewers when I used to have double that or more. Don't they want me to make money for them? Don't they benefit from my visibility?

Tbh, I think they SPECIFICALLY targeted the fuck machine tag (and a few others) with this algorithm change. I am on that tag, and I keep track of other models on my tags. ALL of the people on that tag are suffering with hugely reduced viewership. Some worse than others.

Maybe they decided they didn't want such vulgarity on the first page or something? Idk. It's annoying though.

 

[hidden_evelina]

I feel for you girl. It's not about vulgarity or anything like that. There are those rotating spots (at least 35 of them located between 3-70 places on homepage) where the models are displayed according to what a user supposedly wants to watch. And they formed a kind of barrier that makes it harder for models now to be moved further up. You need your own followers to come join your room and help you compete with the real high traffic models. Now it's harder than ever.

 

[KingMarti]

Please don’t roast me for my questions.
When we say ranking do we mean the placement in the mosaic like homepage? Does it guarantee higher conversion rates?
I do vanilla paid campaigns for a living, so maybe I’m overthinking it and I’ve been away from the industry for too long.

From what I have seen over the years the conversion rate is generally lower in the rooms with higher traffic, but 1% of 10,000 is more than 10% of 100. In smaller rooms the conversion rate tends to be higher because you dont have as many people that are there for a free show, but even though the % of people tipping is lower because the amount of people in the room is higher you end up with more people tipping. To put it into context of vanilla, if you run RON where you cover every adspace on every site in the network you'll get a higher CTR but a lot of the targeting will be mismatched so you'll end up with a lower conversion but if you push enough traffic you'll usually hit higher earnings than a very targeted campaign, but the difference is with ads you would be paying to get all the traffic thats not converting which is where you end up with the negative roi. I think that should make sense

 

[Dan Epstein]

From what I have seen over the years the conversion rate is generally lower in the rooms with higher traffic, but 1% of 10,000 is more than 10% of 100. In smaller rooms the conversion rate tends to be higher because you dont have as many people that are there for a free show, but even though the % of people tipping is lower because the amount of people in the room is higher you end up with more people tipping. To put it into context of vanilla, if you run RON where you cover every adspace on every site in the network you'll get a higher CTR but a lot of the targeting will be mismatched so you'll end up with a lower conversion but if you push enough traffic you'll usually hit higher earnings than a very targeted campaign, but the difference is with ads you would be paying to get all the traffic thats not converting which is where you end up with the negative roi. I think that should make sense

Makes a lot of sense, thanks. Maybe the homepage is not the ideal place for a tipper acquisition? I wish CB were transparent about dwell time on the specific room (just for the model to access), bounce rate, and returning viewers rate. Just bulk numbers you know, not any privacy breach. Empowering the models with data without resorting to snake oil solutions

 

[KingMarti]

Makes a lot of sense, thanks. Maybe the homepage is not the ideal place for a tipper acquisition? I wish CB were transparent about dwell time on the specific room (just for the model to access), bounce rate, and returning viewers rate. Just bulk numbers you know, not any privacy breach. Empowering the models with data without resorting to snake oil solutions

I would say the benefit of homepage placement isnt really tipper acquisition, it's attention, while a high % of guys never tip, some of those will sign up for onlyfans, buy clips etc. The higher exposure also helps subsidse the chrun rate too since when one tipper leaves you have enough exposure to have new tippers find you. That's kind of the hard part about running low traffic rooms is dealing with member churn since you dont have the constant influx of traffic, if one member that was tipping a lot leaves it can take a lot longer to get another one and in that time it's easy for the room to become stale because you cant just do shows to get traffic because then you set the expectation of free shows but you also cant do nothing because then you get no traffic, when theres more traffic to start with it's more likely that someone or a group of people will keep things running or at worst you can drop the amount or change up the goals to meet the tipping habbits until things pick up again.

Those metrics proberly could (if they havnt been already) put into an app, I know theres one that tracks online hours, tips made, top tippers, so I dont see why you couldnt generate a list for say bounce rate that maintains a list and how long members were in the room, which would give you the bounce rate, average viewer duration. I dont know a whole lot about what the apps have access to but if you can track in and out of members which I think you should be able to because you can have in chat notifications of it I would think you could set up and app to track it.

 

[Dan Epstein]

I would say the benefit of homepage placement isnt really tipper acquisition, it's attention, while a high % of guys never tip, some of those will sign up for onlyfans, buy clips etc. The higher exposure also helps subsidse the chrun rate too since when one tipper leaves you have enough exposure to have new tippers find you. That's kind of the hard part about running low traffic rooms is dealing with member churn since you dont have the constant influx of traffic, if one member that was tipping a lot leaves it can take a lot longer to get another one and in that time it's easy for the room to become stale because you cant just do shows to get traffic because then you set the expectation of free shows but you also cant do nothing because then you get no traffic, when theres more traffic to start with it's more likely that someone or a group of people will keep things running or at worst you can drop the amount or change up the goals to meet the tipping habbits until things pick up again.

Those metrics proberly could (if they havnt been already) put into an app, I know theres one that tracks online hours, tips made, top tippers, so I dont see why you couldnt generate a list for say bounce rate that maintains a list and how long members were in the room, which would give you the bounce rate, average viewer duration. I dont know a whole lot about what the apps have access to but if you can track in and out of members which I think you should be able to because you can have in chat notifications of it I would think you could set up and app to track it.

I mean, why wouldn’t CB voluntarily provide this to models? I’m not talking about complex tracking, just the option to get everything in the place where it’s actually measured. After all, if models are equipped with it in-house, all parties benefit from it.

 

[KingMarti]

I mean, why wouldn’t CB voluntarily provide this to models? I’m not talking about complex tracking, just the option to get everything in the place where it’s actually measured. After all, if models are equipped with it in-house, all parties benefit from it.

I would think they just assume that most people just want to log in and stream and wouldn't want to have to learn what bounce rate is or micromanage stats, I would think the amount of people that would actually use it wouldn't be worth the dev time to set it up and might make the platform seem too complicated for people to want to use it. I mean that would be my guess at why they don't just have everything already.

 

[Vixxen81]

I would think they just assume that most people just want to log in and stream and wouldn't want to have to learn what bounce rate is or micromanage stats, I would think the amount of people that would actually use it wouldn't be worth the dev time to set it up and might make the platform seem too complicated for people to want to use it. I mean that would be my guess at why they don't just have everything already.

Some apps keep track of that. But we do have the soft data of how much a person has tipped us in their drop down.

 

[Dan Epstein]

I would think they just assume that most people just want to log in and stream and wouldn't want to have to learn what bounce rate is or micromanage stats, I would think the amount of people that would actually use it wouldn't be worth the dev time to set it up and might make the platform seem too complicated for people to want to use it. I mean that would be my guess at why they don't just have everything already.

I beg to differ. I think OP is an example of a smart model who would absolutely harness data tools. The revenue from a minority of models who would use it, is an example of a Pareto. What do I know anyway? I just did prepaid cards and tradeshows back in the day