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Discussion in 'General Cam Chat' started by girlfriendcutie, Jun 24, 2018.

  1. girlfriendcutie

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    What are your thoughts on your favorite models income? Lets say you discover she makes 5k a month, or 10k a month, or even 40k+ a month... Would your tipping habits change? Are you more or less likely to tip in the future? Does it not matter either way, as long as she's providing you with a good model to member experience. I'd like to hear your thoughts on the subject.
     
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  2. BufordT

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    Well, my visits are infrequent so it might not be the best perspective but the first thing I will consider is my budget. That is hopefully understandable as the primary concern. After that it would not really matter how much the model makes to me personally since I would be paying for something specific and hopefully getting what I pay for. Of course if the model has either said or inferred something untrue such as she is need of tips and isn't then I would definitely change my spending if that is why I was spending in the first place. Even if that isn't why I was tipping the idea of deceit usually will turn off/shut down a customer. The best policy is honesty, aside from personal details of course. If I was a model I would not discuss how much I make because it probably would affect some people more than others. But if it came out accidentally try to be honest but don't make it a topic of discussion. The visits I do make are private sessions mostly so it is slightly different than tip shows but the general thought processes are the same I think.

    By the way, customers, especially regular customers will usually have a fairly good idea of how well a model is doing financially in the business. They won't have an overall financial picture of course but a general sense if you are making good money at the job. Unless a model has tried to change that impression the specific dollar figure shouldn't shock too many people.
     
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  3. DJ_Pioneer

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    It doesn't affect me, the people who want to feel like they are saving the model with their tipping might feel differently.
     
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  4. DuoShi

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    Wouldn't matter to me. My tipping habits are primarily driven by my financial situation. As long as the model is being who she is and/or providing content I want at that moment. Tokens are getting thrown.
     
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  5. SecurityResearcher

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    It doesn't matter to me.

    Being in a top model's room, and seeing multi-thousand token tips each evening, we can of course do the math to know how much she is making ... but, she is providing entertainment.

    Her personality and engagement matter more to me: if she still says "thank you" to whatever I can afford to tip, which will never rival her top tippers, then I feel valued and appreciated and I like to support her.
     
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  6. Benenu

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    To me the amount a model makes a month does not effect my tipping. As others have said, many of us can do the math and come up with a rough estimate. That being said, during a show, unless I'm trying to request something, I usually tip less if there are lots of other tippers, since I know the model is still making money for the day.

    If a model were to flaunt their wealth it might be a different story. I have seen a couple of models that travel around the world, or own houses that I could never think of affording; I find it hard to "support" them with tips. So they need to work harder to keep my attention, or I will likely go to a different room.

    For each person , I think it will come down to what they can afford, and what they expect to get from their tips. I think the people who would complain about the amount a model makes, are those that want everything for a small tip.
     
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  7. MiniatureKiwi

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    As a member, I base my tipping on the overall feel of the room at the moment of time I'm there. If it's a slow night and the model I'm watching is being laid back and enjoying the conversation, I'm not going to fork over a ton of tips, but I will definitely support with at least something. If it's a faster night with a lot of members present with a lot of goals being reached, I'll start tipping a lot more. The amount the model makes on a monthly basis is of no concern, as long as it's apparent that she cares about everyone's support.
     
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  8. WickedTouch

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    It generally doesn't matter to me what the model is making at that time... whether she is holding on to a top 20 place or down at the foot of page 4, I'll tip the same level either way. I'll respond with tips based solely on the quality of the performance in her room. Her monthly income is of no concern to me.

    :)
     
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  9. Brett M

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    This plus the simple fact of your own mood. Maybe you had a great day yourself or bad one, so that will also effect what you do. But what kiwi said is pretty much the nail on the head.
     
  10. fandango

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    I don't care at all how much a model makes. I'm aware that the top ones all make far more than me and probably the medium ones do too IDK I don't care enough to try and work out where my salary would put me on a camscore or missmfc average.

    I find the logic of not tipping because they earn more than me makes no sense. It would be like me saying I'm not going to go and see the Avengers because Robert Downey Jr gets paid much more than me and my ticket money isn't "saving" him. If I'm enjoying it I'm happy to pay for it.

    Saying that though I do normally skip over all the top model rooms and go to the lower camscore ones. It's nothing to do with how much money they make but more that I just like the less busy rooms. If there was a crazy busy room but the model only had 1k camscore I'd skip that too and if a high earning model had a more chill less busy room then I'd tip her the same amount as I would have for anyone else.
     
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  11. eyeteach

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    Doesn't matter in the least to me. As a matter of fact I want her to earn as much as she can, I want her to be more successful than she ever imagined she could be. I wouldn't ask her how much she makes but if she volunteers that info in private I would be awfully proud for her and of her.
     
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  12. Protocosmo

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    I want any model that I enjoy visiting (also any and every model) to be a successful as possible. If they're not making enough to keep camming, then guess what. They go away. However, I can only tip what I can tip.
     
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  13. Frank Kodis

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    For me it depends. There was, not very long ago on mfc one really fake lying bitch with plaster tits that was making awfully large amount of money. And every time i saw her as #1 i felt like bitch-slapped, feeling that there is a lot of girls that deserved support way more than her.. but i never had problems tipping high rollers who were in my opinion genuine.. I guess it is very personal for me.
     
  14. homeless_guy

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    10-20% of my tips tipped are probably pity tips (not to be confused with 'donation without a request or reward' tips.) It would disqualify her for those, but as long as she's still doing something to make it seem worth it, she wouldn't really need the pity tips and there would probably be no change. But in general there are a lot of guys that only tip the highest income/camscore/ popularity girls when they really want something and it is easy to feel like they're already taken care of if you see them driving a really nice car, or witness a 10,000 token tip, or see the high amount they made that day displayed by her CB app or just seeing them at the top of the page with a full room.

    It is easy to feel like your little 100 or 200 or 500 tokens won't really make a difference to her or as if it will barely be noticed or appreciated and I think that appreciation and joy and comfort provided is a big part of why it's fun to give money to women. I think this element is in large part why a thing like findom can even exist. If she won't even feel it then what's the point? So while those top girls already have a hard enough time interacting with everyone, it adds yet another layer of abstraction to the "interaction" and devalues the prospective transaction for many. But on the flip side, I guess theoretically it could definitely make people want to tip more or bigger if they feel that's what's required to get her attention but I don't think this is an experiment they would try too many times because being liked for having money can be a worse feeling than not being liked. This inverse correlation between success and quality of human interaction services that can be provided, is a tricky thing to navigate.

    There's even a guy in the lowest MFC lounge that issues a regular public service announcement every 30 minutes or so while he's there that says something like "Don't tip a model if she has a better house than you. Give to the low popularity models instead because they will be more appreciative" he spams that very often and has been doing so for well over a year at least and I rarely see anybody challenge these sentiments.

    But I think if you have a good enough offer for a product or service or goal that they want to spend money on, it shouldn't make much difference in regards to that. However, it is hard to sell just porn these days because porn is abundantly available for free. And if there's still some human interaction and/or perceived genuineness in gratitude and behaving like a real human, then people who derive joy from giving money to women can definitely still feel good and happy from, and pleased by contributing to such a person as well (even if they think, know or learn that she is doing very well financially.)
     
  15. BufordT

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    If someone has a bad attitude, is fake or a "bitch" or whatever other things turn off people, that will cause those people not to tip. If that person is also making a lot money then thinking other girls are more deserving is natural. I'd say in that case money wasn't the cause but it just added fuel to the fire. Maybe there are a few people who dislike someone solely based on how much they make but I don't think it's a lot. It sounds like the only reason the money was a problem for you was because you already had a reason to dislike that particular girl.
     
  16. ForceTen

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    Personally, it generally doesn't bother me what a model makes. I tip for a variety of reasons, none of which is to financially "help" a model. I tip because I'm enjoying the conversation, what she's doing (joke, topic, did something funny or cool such as what you did last summer), etc. Heck, I've tipped simply for no reason at all. I tend to regularly visit top models frequently, so I know they're pulling in some good money and still tip accordingly based on how I feel. For me, it's about enjoyment for both. I've been in your room numerous times, and tipped you each time have been there. However, I think our schedules are changed now and I very rarely ever see you online now.

    I will say though that if something were to bother me about what a model makes is when they're saying they're broke, and don't have money for something they need but yet she's in the top 100 (or significantly better) frequently. I get that sometimes people run into difficult times. But, if someone is pulling that kind of money down, and doesn't save some of it, that's on them. Learn to save, stop blowing it on whatever, and put it to where it needs to go.
     
  17. Frank Kodis

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    I guess You're right.. but i never understood why essentially NN annoying "girl" gets so much attention and keep winning.. sometimes i sat in her room for hours trying to track down _any_ reason for that and i failed..
     
  18. Goblin

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    I think it's pretty common knowledge now what kind of money models are earning from what kind of ranks (on MFC), I don't think it puts off the majority
     
  19. dilligaf0

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    I don't work for the I.R.S.
    It's none of my business what anyone else makes.
    As well as it's none of their business what I make.
     
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  20. homeless_guy

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    I think you guys are looking at it too shallowly to answer properly. Of course almost nobody is going to tip someone less just because of what she makes. But if they see or learn of her earnings and success and that causes them to think she's stuck up, too popular and with already enough sugar daddies to not care about interacting with the room satisfactorily, lazy, with impossible goals, likely lacking gratitude and things like that- it can and will have some effect on some people to some extent. (Even if you as an individual are too cool to discriminate.) :cool:
     
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  21. Slapstick

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    I would be ecstatically happy for my favorite model if I learned she was making $10K+ per month. As @Protocosmo said, if the model is not making sufficient money she will go away and I do not want my favorite models going away.

    I also don't think it would change my spending habits with a model if I learned she made a ton of money. I pay for "services rendered" and if she is rendering services I have no problem paying for them. I make good money as a software developer and I don't expect clients to pay me less because I am well paid!
     
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  22. Brett M

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    Exactly. You don't go to any company and expect to or want to pay them less because they had a profit of XX amount last quarter or year. You're paying for a service or good, and so long as you're happy with what you tipped/spent for, then it's all fantastic.
     
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  23. SaffronBurke

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    Her hustle isn't your thing and that's fine. It doesn't mean that there's no reason for anyone to tip her, though. There's so many different reasons to visit a camsite. Some dudes are into happy-go-lucky fun girls. Some are into the stuck-up-bitch attitude. Some are into feeling like they're saving the damsel in distress. Some just wanna nut. Some want a conversation. Fortunately, there's a model for everyone. On MFC, if a model really annoys you and you're upset anytime you see her online, put her on ignore and she shouldn't show up anymore.
     
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  24. briandf255

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    I don't really care as far as not wanting to give a model my money just because she makes more than I do or more than some other models do.

    How much a model makes only comes into play when she charges more than other models to the point where 1) I simply can't afford to buy her content or 2) I can find models with a similar look who sell comparable content for less. Obviously, this is not a factor on sites where the models do whatever they do in front of a group and get tips in return, but I don't hang out in group chats, so my perspective is different from guys who mainly do just that.
     
  25. heart42

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    As long as a "model" has the right attitude they're worth anything to me as several of them are great friends Cutie as I learned a lesson with all the models I've been around as I never get too demanding of them unless I tip as for me it's Hello (name of model) unless the name is inappropriate,how are you & I amy ask about certain things but that's about all I do. Thank you for asking this question Cutie as it's an important question to ask
     
  26. EmptyKins

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    What do you mean, "unless the name is inappropriate"?
     
  27. heart42

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    What I mean Empty is if there's a racially motivaved reason especially if it involves a certain people as when I lived near Chicago racial slurs were used constantly as I remember going home on a Friday afternoon form work and racial slurs were used & I won't use them myself. Does this answer your Question Empty. I also ask politeley if I can call them by I different name as well especially if I like them which keeps the conversation going
     
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  28. Useful-Title

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    This is a question that I never actually pondered before. And to be honest I don’t think it would bother me at all.

    I am more interested is being in a fun room and watching a fun show then anything else. But that is just me, and my opinion.
     
  29. fandango

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    Is this a common enough thing for you to need to make a point of it? I don't think I've ever seen a model with a racial slur as her username.
     
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  30. heart42

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    I try not to as I myself try to act personable to models as possible but there are some not all models that use a nationality in their name as that can cause a problem for some people
     
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