Celebrities and Camgirls - what if you were famous?

[LilyMarie]

I had an interesting conversation with the guys in my room last night and I'd love to hear some more opinions about it.

If you were famous, would you openly communicate with camgirls?


We got onto the subject because while I was on cam, one of my favorite bands, The Naked and Famous, tweeted at me.
I had recommended their new album on Twitter the day before, and they replied to me with "@LilyMarieMFC thanks for liking our album. We like yours too." (https://twitter.com/TNAF/status/339188174398033920)

After I was done freaking out with happiness and shock, we talked about the fact that they were "brave" enough to tweet me.
The band is fairly successful, especially in Australia and New Zealand. They have 45,000 followers - anyone who goes on their Twitter and clicks on "all" rather than "no replies" can read their positive, friendly tweet to a woman who tweets pictures of her naked breasts and doesn't make a secret of the fact that she gets naked and masturbates online for money.
The tweet is still there a day later, so apparently whoever tweeted didn't regret their decision.

Worst-case scenario: Some fans might start being repulsed by the band and stop listening to their music. I know there are people who are fully able to behave that way.


What would you do if you were a musician, a band, an actor, a TV host, an athlete, or anyone well-known whose career somewhat depends on his/her fans?
Would you communicate in a positive way with camgirls or other adult workers if the opportunity presented itself, like it did with The Naked and Famous and me? Would you care about what your fans might think about you if you did this? Would you care if you maybe lost fans over it? What about underage fans you might have?

 

[emptiedglass]

I suppose it'd depend on what I was famous for, and the type of 'image' I was going for.
Most likely I'd probably do the same as I do now, which is to make up a handle not associated with my actual name. Sadly, a lot of people - not to mention employers - will judge you based on it. If I were a rockstar or an actor, I wouldn't care so much. However, if I was known for being part of a Christian rock band or for acting in children's shows, I'd be a little more discreet. The same would apply if I were in politics or an executive for a large company.
Given the name of the band you referred to, I don't think associating with camgirls will cause them any irreparable damage. :lol:

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Given the name of the band you referred to, I don't think associating with camgirls will cause them any irreparable damage. :lol:

My first thought too. I'm older so I'm pretty much use to the following concepts in the pictures below. Tweeting with a camgirl would be considered downright tame compared to some of the activities of musicians in the past.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Given the name of the band you referred to, I don't think associating with camgirls will cause them any irreparable damage. :lol:

Anytime I think of pop and rock stars/bands. These two quotes come to mind,'Sex and Drugs and Rock & Roll", and "Money for nothing and chicks for free".
Hell one of the big perks of being a musician is you can flirt, fuck, and generally have fun with, hot young woman with no consequences as long you don't get them pregnant. Naked and Famous has a great name, and excellent taste in girls, but tweeting to a camgirls doesn't qualify as brave IMO.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

That said, (from my previous post) I do understand where you're coming from. I have sort of a similar thing happening to me. Nathan Fillion (Firefly and Castle) follows me on twitter and we DM every now and then. He's been following me for around a year now I guess. So he can see all my tweets, of which MOST are mfc related. I make some pretty crude comments, I reply with sex related comments, make gay related jokes (not in a mean way) with some of the other members on mfc. Basically any of the stuff that could be mentioned on a daily basis when tweeting to camgirls and other members of an adult site. He's still following me after all this time. I honestly ask myself 'why' every once in a while. Wouldn't that hurt his reputation if his followers knew someone he follows does that? :?

 

[mynameisbob84]

I guess it would depend on what I was famous for. If I was a politician or a kid's TV presenter, openly conversing with someone in the sex trade over social media could prove problematic. If I was in a band though, then I don't think tweeting at cam girls would ever be an issue. Compared with some of the things musicians have done in the past, thanking a cam girl for liking their album doesn't even register as being controversial :twocents-02cents:

 

[Albert_1]

Like others have said as long as I wasn't a kids entertainer (which I can't see myself ever being lol) I'd have no problems interacting with someone in the sex business. If fans had a problem with it to bad for them. I have no time for close minded people, unless they're in my family in which case I reluctantly have to.

 

[Jessi]

This isn't really the same level, but bloggers I follow obsessively and some etsy stores I like started following me. And Im just like "wuuuuh? are you sure you want your other followers to see that?". Course, Im the one following stuff with my "work" account but real parts of myself overlap quite a bit with MFC.

 

[emptiedglass]

When I follow someone on Twitter, I don't even look at who they follow themselves. It's generally only that one person who's captured my interest.
A lot of people will automatically follow anyone who follows them.
Outside of Twitter, I've occasionally associated with alcoholics, drug addicts, people who have cheated on their spouses or their taxes, smugglers, thieves... the list goes on. It doesn't mean I've approved of their actions, or always knew about them. Should I be judged by my association with such people? :lol:

 

[emptiedglass]

Forgot to mention that I'm also a serial jaywalker. I wonder how many unfollows I'll get now.

 

[Albert_1]

When I follow someone on Twitter, I don't even look at who they follow themselves. It's generally only that one person who's captured my interest.
A lot of people will automatically follow anyone who follows them.
Outside of Twitter, I've occasionally associated with alcoholics, drug addicts, people who have cheated on their spouses or their taxes, smugglers, thieves... the list goes on. It doesn't mean I've approved of their actions, or always knew about them. Should I be judged by my association with such people? :lol:

Wow, sounds like you know a lot of cool people.

 

[emptiedglass]

When I follow someone on Twitter, I don't even look at who they follow themselves. It's generally only that one person who's captured my interest.
A lot of people will automatically follow anyone who follows them.
Outside of Twitter, I've occasionally associated with alcoholics, drug addicts, people who have cheated on their spouses or their taxes, smugglers, thieves... the list goes on. It doesn't mean I've approved of their actions, or always knew about them. Should I be judged by my association with such people? :lol:

Wow, sounds like you know a lot of cool people.

They can certainly recount some better stories than I ever will!

 

[IsabellaSnow]

A lot of people find the sex industry really interesting, especially from afar. Look at the books and the series about Belle de Jour "secret diary of a call girl". They were extremely successful and had a pretty famous british actress as the lead role. Belle in fact got famous originally for having a witty and funny blog about her escapades as a London call girl.

I don't think any celebrity would get bad press replying politely to a tweet from a fan, whatever that fan does. If they were tweeting/following a whole load of camgirls and sending them pervy messages then yes maybe then. Otherwise no. A lot of people really don't like the sex industry/the idea of it, but I've heard these same people defending the workers pretty passionately. A large amount of the bad press that comes from the sex industry is the idea that women may have had shit lives/felt either pressured into doing it or like they didn't have much other choice. It's not entirely untrue, it's not a job most people would do and often there have been aspects of a persons life that makes them more relaxed about that sort of thing.

Yes there are some women and men who feel very threatened by the presence of the sex industry, but looking at how many celebs have dated porn stars and glamour models and have been idolised for it, no I don't think a friendly tweet replying to a cute camgirl with a few topless pics on her twitter is going to cause any issue.

 

[southsamurai]

i dunno. im still trying to get published (a nightmare) i have my author pages that are separate from my personal ones anyway. i wouldnt have any problem with my cam activity being public, hell pretty much everyone who knows me knows anyway. i've only got one childrens book and i dont plan to publish it and i cant imagine any of my other stuff being affected. actors and musicians it doesnt really matter as far as i can tell.

so if i was famous (which i am not even known at all really lol) no i wouldnt keep it a secret or anything, but at least on the two big social pages (twitter and fb) i would keep the cam stuff on the ones its on now. the author stuff would get crowded out and i might miss something related to that. otherwise i would just use one. my author twitter is pretty useful. no agents or publishers who have committed yet, but plenty of reviewers and other writers on there that are spreading the word... if slowly lol.

 

[blockbyblock]

I think the other members covered most of the bases with their replies. The only thing I'd draw attention to is the fact that Twitter is a youth dominated social network. Facebook skews a little older nowadays. I think the combination of openness about sexual desires/preferences and the general "Don't give a damn" of youth makes sites like Twitter, Instagram, and Tumblr perfect avenues for erotic models of all sorts.

The potential downside of this "ease of access" would be a casual fan may think that Model X and Model Y are personal friends with them and treat them thusly. As long as the fan and the model are mature/act mature, any misunderstandings between the audience and the model can be sorted between adults. The decision basically lies with the model: how much do I deal with before I ban/block?

But back to positive thinking: Woo for the shout-out on Twitter, Lily! :mrgreen: And if I ever accidentally became famous, I wouldn't try to scrub my voyeuristic past because 1) it's the internet, so it's out there somewhere and 2)the people I've met are great people who happen to take off their clothes in front of other people. Deleting my history with them or pretending it didn't happen would be wrong (in my mind) and would make me feel worse than anything a mainstream media outlet could write about me.

 

[theRileyDaniels]

Im sorry im geekying out over the fact the Jo TALKS TO NATHAN FILLION!! I literally just died a little.

 

[emptiedglass]

Im sorry im geekying out over the fact the Jo TALKS TO NATHAN FILLION!! I literally just died a little.

I'm a bit jealous, too. :lol:

 

[LilyMarie]

When I follow someone on Twitter, I don't even look at who they follow themselves. It's generally only that one person who's captured my interest.
A lot of people will automatically follow anyone who follows them.
Outside of Twitter, I've occasionally associated with alcoholics, drug addicts, people who have cheated on their spouses or their taxes, smugglers, thieves... the list goes on. It doesn't mean I've approved of their actions, or always knew about them. Should I be judged by my association with such people? :lol:

The question is if you'd still tweet people who are considered immoral if you were a celebrity, though.
Besides, with alcoholics, drug addicts, people who have cheated on their spouses or their taxes, smugglers, thieves you usually can't tell who they are from their twitter profile.

Thanks for your replies, everyone!

In case someone's interested, here's what some of the guys in my chat said that night, I copied some of it from my chatlog...

I wouldn't
My public image would probably suffer, even though you are awesome (...)
There's a bit of a stigma attached to porn and webcam models and stuff. and whilst it is silly, I don't think I would be able to publically link myself to them. (...)
It is sad. Especially since your industry is massive. You're not just a subversive little sector of society

i wouldn't care
thats there decision
do you think everybody looks at who they are tweeting

 

[Gen]

If I suddenly became famous, I'd still tweet my camgirl friends!

I don't think people usually look too much at who celebs reply to (although ill click them if theyre hot, lol). To me it's different if the person replies to a fan tweet or if they're like, openly following them and replying to their naughty tweets/photos. The first seems harmless and if you had an issue with camgirls you could assume that they didn't even know they were a camgirl, whereas the second is more deliberate. Either way is fine with me (obviously, haha) but if I was cultivating a certain image, I wouldn't follow camgirls or anyone scandalous.

It's only kinda related but there was a hockey player on my favourite team who joined Twitter, but quickly came under fire because he followed only super hot girls and would openly try to pick up on Twitter. A lot of athletes do this but more subtley? Idk how to describe it but eventually it got out of hand as it affected a lot of how people viewed him and stirred up so much drama that the team made him delete his account. Kind of interesting to see people's reactions.

 

[southsamurai]

Im sorry im geekying out over the fact the Jo TALKS TO NATHAN FILLION!! I literally just died a little.

meh, i talk to laurell k hamilton and charlaine harris here and there lol. charlainne doesnt like me much though lol... she says im too dark. nathan is hot and all, but to get my geek going gimme writers of vamps and weres lol

 

[PunkInDrublic]

I'd have no problem conversing with any sex worker if I was a musician. I'd probably go out of my way to converse with them. Especially if I was part of a smaller band I'd want as many sex workers at my shows as possible.

Would be completely different if I was a popular athlete. Nike ain't looking to sponsor a guy that chills with sex workers. Parents aren't buying the jersey of the guy that hangs around with sex workers. Would have to be way more private about my sex life if I were a famous athlete.

 

[Brad]

I am Gene Simmons. I am Howard Stern. I am the long haired Jew that doesn't give a fuck. Only I'm not famous.
:lol: :lol: :lol:


I would hope that if I was famous my fans would be shocked only if I didn't communicate with cam girls. Otherwise they shouldn't be my fans and they can all go to hell.
:thumbleft:

 

[emptiedglass]

The question is if you'd still tweet people who are considered immoral if you were a celebrity, though.
Besides, with alcoholics, drug addicts, people who have cheated on their spouses or their taxes, smugglers, thieves you usually can't tell who they are from their twitter profile.

Not everyone considers what you do to be "immoral" behaviour.
People need to lighten up and stop being so damn judgemental.

 

[LilyMarie]

The question is if you'd still tweet people who are considered immoral if you were a celebrity, though.
Besides, with alcoholics, drug addicts, people who have cheated on their spouses or their taxes, smugglers, thieves you usually can't tell who they are from their twitter profile.

Not everyone considers what you do to be "immoral" behaviour.
People need to lighten up and stop being so damn judgemental.

Nope, not everyone, but the majority of people for sure. It's why most of us don't just go around telling people we're camgirls

 

[pg240]

There was an era during which business people played everything extremely close to the vest, thinking why run the risk of antagonizing any potential customer. Now many entertainers -- which is a business, after all -- have no qualms about alienating as much as 50 percent of their potential customer base by openly espousing political and social views on an endless array of issues. So my guess is many people in today's social media culture wouldn't give a crap about this. If they liked you, they'd follow you. I suspect that LilyMarie might even have two fan bases -- one on MFC and one on Twitter. She's highly entertaining on both platforms, and there is a slight distinction between the two because she generally keeps the "adult" stuff private on Twitter.

Personally, I doubt if I would openly follow a camgirl if I were famous. I'd probably be old school and tend to shy away from alienating anyone who might be willing to give me a buck. Camming is actually pretty tame compared to many activities one could get involved in, but that view is certainly open to interpretation. Prudes do still exist. Besides, I'm a bit introverted and tend to care too much what people think about me. People are obviously more open about many things today than they were 20 years ago when the Internet took off, but I suspect I'd still hide behind a "handle" to associate with camgirls -- most of whom do the same things, I believe.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

I don't know much about Twitter but isn't it probably just a publicist or something doing Twitter for them?

 

[AllisonWilder]

If I was famous, I'd still tweet at my camgirl friends, I just don't know that I would be as publicly creepy as I am now (and I'm sure that I'm often a creepy tweeter) because I'd probably be trying to keep some things private. I imagine I'd utilize DMs more.



Also, Lisa Loeb (and a few smaller, not quite as well known bands) followed me on Twitter and I was incredibly shocked. I'm always pleasantly surprised when a celebrity openly interacts with/follows me because of the content of my twitter.

 

[Brad]

I think a huge part of it is IF you were famous WHAT would you be famous for? I would never be famous in a field that required Puritan type behavior. I wouldn't be a politician or a preacher for example. More likely I would be an actor, or a rock star, or an athlete based on my skills and passions. So for myself it would actually feel very normal to continue to chat with cam girls and that is why I said that if someone didn't like it then they really wouldn't be a fan of mine anyway.

 

[emptiedglass]

I don't know much about Twitter but isn't it probably just a publicist or something doing Twitter for them?

I suppose some might be.
There are a number that I've seen with many self-shot pics and, um, less then professional commentary that would lead me to believe that they are who they claim to be. While I'm not sure how they go about it, Twitter also verifies the authenticity of any "official" accounts.
They probably also have 'private' accounts that they only share with close friends and family.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

I don't know much about Twitter but isn't it probably just a publicist or something doing Twitter for them?

I suppose some might be.
There are a number that I've seen with many self-shot pics and, um, less then professional commentary that would lead me to believe that they are who they claim to be. While I'm not sure how they go about it, Twitter also verifies the authenticity of any "official" accounts.
They probably also have 'private' accounts that they only share with close friends and family.

Exactly, I'm fairly certain Fillion actually does his own tweets. If you follow him at all he's always tweeting pics of himself, hiding stuff for fans to find when he's travelling, at award shows, on set. And he makes too many personal statements and replies. It's not just someone paid to tweet his appearances or random quotes to keep it looking busy.
I think you can tell the ones that are just paid assistants. :twocents-02cents:

Will Wheaton, Dina Meyer, Lexa Doig are themselves, too many swear words and 'real life' moments involving their kids and embarrassing stuff. :lol:

David Hewlett tweets a pic of his morning face most days after waking up (not pretty). Fairly sure you wouldn't pay someone to do that for you, you just have to be that quirky on your own.

There probably are many who do hire people to tweet for them, I just tend to think they are a bit more 'dry' and I don't follow them for long.