Do You Think Girls Who Look Under 18 Should be Banned?

[JickyJuly]

Jicky, how does it make sense for a company that cars about profit to get rid of any source of income, regardless of size? Sure for you, a woman in a diaper is a turn off. Obviously someone likes it, so why deny those harmless people their fun?

As for your rape for profit comments: ra
pe fantasy is one of, if not the most prevalent fantasy among women. I have to ask: ever seen ' The Accused?' 'Irreversible?' Lots of money made from pretend rape.


"Winningduh," I have no feathers. I lost them ast the nursing home.

When I see girls who look young pretending to be 10 or wearing diapers it kills the mood for me. It also sets my thinking wheels in motion about the site that is helping perpetuate such "fantasies" and whether it's someplace to spend time and $. I'm not a parent and I never had personal experience with pedophiles. So, I feel like my thoughts here are unbiased. Is it that weird to assume pedophillia turns off the majority?

As far as rapey stuff goes, if two consenting adults want to play at it fine. However, pretending to/fantasizing about raping a child is a different thing. I feel that women playing a part in that is wrong.

I have not seen the movies you mentioned. Rape scenes make me kind of ragey. That is why I prefaced my comment by saying that my opinion may not be relevent. I am biased. Once you experience rape, the idea of fantasizing about it doesn't really make much sense. And, if you consider the amount of women who have survived assaults, to call rape fantasies profitable feels yucky.

 

[Jupiter551]

As for your rape for profit comments: rape fantasy is one of, if not the most prevalent fantasy among women.

I agree I've been with a number of women who like to roleplay rape fantasy and I've gone along with it because they it turned them on and turning on your woman is a GOOD THING.

BUT - rape fantasy among men, well I hate to have a double standard here but a man who fantasizes about rape and a woman who fantasizes about rape are very likely coming from two VERY different motivations. For women, rape fantasy is often about being absolved of any "guilt" about letting themselves go sexually - because they are roleplaying as if they have no control over it (guilt might be the wrong word, but for instance the ability to act like some random guy's fuckslut, which most women wouldn't do in anything other than a bedroom fantasy setting with their trusted boyfriend/lover). Women who fantasize about rape and roleplay it with their partner, unsurprisingly have NO desire to actually be raped - the fantasy and reality in this case don't correlate at all.

None of that applies to a man having fantasies about raping women. Personally, I tend to wonder if men fantasizing about rape are using it as a surrogate for actually committing rape. Or a stepping stone - it's a common psychological theory that sociopaths and sex-offenders start out with fantasies, escalate to mild abuse, before finally committing the "deed". After a while, for that type of person, the fantasy is no longer enough.

Which is also how I feel about "ageplay". You can call it a fantasy, but think about the type of people who are having those fantasies. If you're fantasizing about fucking a child, you ARE a pedophile. You may not (yet) be acting on your urges, and hopefully you never will, but even sexually fantasizing about it makes you a pedophile and such people need psychological help, not encouragement in the form of fantasy fulfillment.

Here's an example I got a cap of a while ago. Note the model's name, the fact she's dressed specifically to look under 18, and the comments from sick fucks in chat were nauseating.

 

[PaigeParker]

As for your rape for profit comments: rape fantasy is one of, if not the most prevalent fantasy among women. I have to ask: ever seen ' The Accused?' 'Irreversible?' Lots of money made from pretend rape.

If anyone gets turned on by Irreversible I think they may have a problem... that rape scene is not the sexy fantasy rape, but the fear for your life, do I even want to live again after this rape. I watched that scene and even though I knew it was just a movie, it was still difficult to watch. It makes it even worse when you see the ending.

 

[schlmoe]

As for your rape for profit comments: rape fantasy is one of, if not the most prevalent fantasy among women.

I agree I've been with a number of women who like to roleplay rape fantasy and I've gone along with it because they it turned them on and turning on your woman is a GOOD THING.

BUT - rape fantasy among men, well I hate to have a double standard here but a man who fantasizes about rape and a woman who fantasizes about rape are very likely coming from two VERY different motivations. For women, rape fantasy is often about being absolved of any "guilt" about letting themselves go sexually - because they are roleplaying as if they have no control over it (guilt might be the wrong word, but for instance the ability to act like some random guy's fuckslut, which most women wouldn't do in anything other than a bedroom fantasy setting with their trusted boyfriend/lover). Women who fantasize about rape and roleplay it with their partner, unsurprisingly have NO desire to actually be raped - the fantasy and reality in this case don't correlate at all.

None of that applies to a man having fantasies about raping women. Personally, I tend to wonder if men fantasizing about rape are using it as a surrogate for actually committing rape. Or a stepping stone - it's a common psychological theory that sociopaths and sex-offenders start out with fantasies, escalate to mild abuse, before finally committing the "deed". After a while, for that type of person, the fantasy is no longer enough.

Which is also how I feel about "ageplay". You can call it a fantasy, but think about the type of people who are having those fantasies. If you're fantasizing about fucking a child, you ARE a pedophile. You may not (yet) be acting on your urges, and hopefully you never will, but even sexually fantasizing about it makes you a pedophile and such people need psychological help, not encouragement in the form of fantasy fulfillment.

Here's an example I got a cap of a while ago. Note the model's name, the fact she's dressed specifically to look under 18, and the comments from sick fucks in chat were nauseating.

While everybody is entitled to their opinion...it seems there is a lot of conclusion jumping going on. Who is the correct arbiter on what's wrong and what's not wrong? Whose to say that watching an "ageplay" or rape fantasy cam show doesn't reduce the urge to take this IRL? Personally, I'm more offended by the pee/poo/vomit shows than the young looking girls on MFC.

As far as the above pic, the only thing I find objectionable is the model's name...click "next", problem solved. If the girl above was wearing a baby bonnet/diaper and sucking on a pacifier, whilst saying "fuck me daddy"...that's a different story altogether. IMO, she doesn't look a whole lot different from Britney Spears (from 10 years ago, lol) or Miley Cyrus. And this whole pedophile/non-pedophile thing...do we have the correct perspective?

I've seen the Britney Spears "school-girl" video, thought she looked hot. A few weeks ago, the local HS was having a fundraiser...cheerleader bikini car-wash, I took a gander (I only drove around the block 3 times, I promise). Going to the beach, the mall, etc...WTF, if I look before checking IDs, I guess I'm a sick fuck. Several years ago the "Britney Spears school-girl" outfit was the biggest Halloween costume seller...bunch of pedophiles there, I imagine. I guess if my fav camgirl does a "school-girl" or cheerleader show, I should look away...

On this, I'm of a mind that there are two distinct issues: "pedophilia" and "age of consent". Both wrong, but if I happen to see a hot chick, think "that's hot"...find out that she's aged 17 years and 364 days...not sure if I should be branded a pedophile. And if I don't have any urge to slam her on the bed and go to town...no harm, no foul, right?

I feel like I'm wandering...I think everybody needs to decide for themselves what's OK with them and stick with that. Interesting to see the varying opinions.

 

[Keithy]

Well, lucky for you Schlmoe, age of consent usually hovers about 16 years old.
Also pedophilia refers specifically to prepubescent minors. Teenagers is ephebophilia (which nature has said good to go, laws usually disagree) and pubescent minors is Hebephilia (11-15 range set in puberty). Teleiophiles refers to a matured adult (18+) Sexual preference and Gerontophilia (and graeophile) is for the elderly. Totally they are known as Chronophilia (sexual preference based on age group). Alphamegamia is specifically if you're just into Older men and anililagnia if you're into older women.

 

[Jupiter551]

it seems there is a lot of conclusion jumping going on. Who is the correct arbiter on what's wrong and what's not wrong? Whose to say that watching an "ageplay" or rape fantasy cam show doesn't reduce the urge to take this IRL? Personally, I'm more offended by the pee/poo/vomit shows than the young looking girls on MFC.

As far as the above pic, the only thing I find objectionable is the model's name...click "next", problem solved. If the girl above was wearing a baby bonnet/diaper and sucking on a pacifier, whilst saying "fuck me daddy"...that's a different story altogether. IMO, she doesn't look a whole lot different from Britney Spears (from 10 years ago, lol) or Miley Cyrus. And this whole pedophile/non-pedophile thing...do we have the correct perspective?

It's not conclusion jumping, it's evidence based on years of empirical study of violent offenders.

[many rapists follow a pattern of]...escalating to the point of fantasy, fantasies about rape, and eventually planning to rape and committing rape. (Ron Sanchez, Ph.D.
Supervising Psychologist, Utah State Prison, works primarily with sex offenders)

Regarding the role of sexual fantasy for sociopathic individuals:

The most crucial factor in the development of the serial rapist or killer is the role of fantasy. It has been suggested that the escalation from fantasy to reality in these instances, can be attributed to pornography. (paraphrasing: Douglas, J., (1996). MindHunter. Mandarine Publishing)

If you'd heard that girl, and her members you'd realize she was absolutely playing up to pedophilia fetishists, I've seen other girls on there talking in little girl voices asking if daddy wants to touch her in the bad place in group...shit like that. Ageplay is the only thing I go out of my way to report.

It's also illegal. It's illegal in pornography to represent someone as being under the age of consent even if it's well known he or she is NOT under the age of consent. For precisely the reasons outlined above. Porn producer Max Hardcore served a jail sentence a few years ago for an actress in one of her films replying she was 12 in what was clearly an "ageplay" roleplay scene. Likewise, in America at least there had been a debate about whether pedophilic themed digital porn would be legal as no children were harmed in its making - and again it was ruled to be illegal because it plays to and encourages heinous acts.

 

[schlmoe]

Well, lucky for you Schlmoe, age of consent usually hovers about 16 years old.
Also pedophilia refers specifically to prepubescent minors. Teenagers is ephebophilia (which nature has said good to go, laws usually disagree) and pubescent minors is Hebephilia (11-15 range set in puberty). Teleiophiles refers to a matured adult (18+) Sexual preference and Gerontophilia (and graeophile) is for the elderly. Totally they are known as Chronophilia (sexual preference based on age group). Alphamegamia is specifically if you're just into Older men and anililagnia if you're into older women.

Yeah, I've heard all those terms, too. I was just trying to highlight the absurdity of this one item. There's a "tar and feather" mentality going around in the public that is trying to set in stone that if you look at anything under "age 18, zero days", you're a pedophile. I remember when Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes hooked up, a lot the buzz had implications of pedophilia.

And today, I don't think certain movies could be made (Pretty Baby, Blame it on Rio, etc). Not saying if that's good or bad.

As far as being "lucky" on the age of consent laws...ahhh, luck has nothing to do with it. I'm just an opportunistic glancer...

 

[Blair]

I don't think they (us, lol) should be banned, it's not their fault look younger and what's more importante, they are over age and is legal, end of the history.

In my case I look younger (people said that I must have 15 years more or less, and in the pubs always I have to show my DNI) but I tried to hide it with a bit of make up. But the thing is that in clothes, accesories and room decoration I have the same tastes as my cousin who has 12 years haha so it makes me look younger. Also helps that I am very thin and I have to buy most of my clothes in kids shops (like zara kids, I love all the clothes from there!).

What I don't like is that girls put in her topics things like "I am a little girl who loves to cum in her daddys cock", awful. One thing is look younger and other pretend to look younger and attract pedophiles.

 

[schlmoe]

It's not conclusion jumping, it's evidence based on years of empirical study of violent offenders.

[many rapists follow a pattern of]...escalating to the point of fantasy, fantasies about rape, and eventually planning to rape and committing rape. (Ron Sanchez, Ph.D.
Supervising Psychologist, Utah State Prison, works primarily with sex offenders)

Regarding the role of sexual fantasy for sociopathic individuals:

The most crucial factor in the development of the serial rapist or killer is the role of fantasy. It has been suggested that the escalation from fantasy to reality in these instances, can be attributed to pornography. (paraphrasing: Douglas, J., (1996). MindHunter. Mandarine Publishing)

If you'd heard that girl, and her members you'd realize she was absolutely playing up to pedophilia fetishists, I've seen other girls on there talking in little girl voices asking if daddy wants to touch her in the bad place in group...shit like that. Ageplay is the only thing I go out of my way to report.

It's also illegal. It's illegal in pornography to represent someone as being under the age of consent even if it's well known he or she is NOT under the age of consent. For precisely the reasons outlined above. Porn producer Max Hardcore served a jail sentence a few years ago for an actress in one of her films replying she was 12 in what was clearly an "ageplay" roleplay scene. Likewise, in America at least there had been a debate about whether pedophilic themed digital porn would be legal as no children were harmed in its making - and again it was ruled to be illegal because it plays to and encourages heinous acts.

For the most part, I was just playing devil's advocate, and mostly agree with what you are saying. Obviously, I did not have the proper context to comment on the pic you posted (the chat room comments), and had I seen it, I would have been offended/disgusted as you were.

As far as the studies you quoted, I'd agree that those conclusions could be drawn...except I doubt there was a control group involved. I could be wrong, but if the study only took in confirmed sociopaths/psychopaths, the conclusions could only be applied to the % of the general population who fit that criteria.

I think we agree more than we disagree on this. Anyway, cheers!

 

[JickyJuly]

That picture is what I had in mind when answering this thread too. Even the way she has her background set up bothers me. The diaper girl also popped in my head, but I'm not sure if that's an age thing or just toilet games. Either way, yucko for me.

 

[Jupiter551]

Yeah no worries, I'm not at all against girls who happen to look under 18 either - just those that specifically try to attract the sector of the market that goes for that.

I agree, forensic psychology is a fledgling science that is constantly revising theories and breaking new ground....though some patterns are far too prevalent to be ignored.

 

[danavixen]

I freakin hate being 19 and looking 12 when I go without make up. I'm ready to be 45...

Talk to me in 10 years.

 

[Rose]

I freakin hate being 19 and looking 12 when I go without make up. I'm ready to be 45...

Talk to me in 10 years.

Already been through menopause, have osteoporosis and arthritis. Physically I'm so done with being "young". It's annoying. I'm ready for the outside to match the inside.

 

[Traditio]

Average age of first sex in germany is 15.9 in america it is 1.5 years higher.
(i stay with american statistics because that is more relevant for most reader here.)
"Average" so there are also the ppl in the list that never ever had sex in their life.

Around a third of all american teenagers have sex before reaching the "Age of Consent".
Two thirds! have sex BEFORE they reach the age of 18.
This "Age of Consent" is an artifical value and more based on moral than on ratio.

So banning someone who has legal age because she looks like e.g. 16 is crap in my eyes.
We are not talking about exceptions here - one third have sex before that age - that means it is "normal".
Compare to 10% of americans that claim to be bisexual or gay but it is seen more common that ppl are bisexual or gay but that ppl have sex below 16 years of age.

There are a lot fantasies around. I don't agree with a lot of them but tolerance is about to accept things you don't like.
What about the rape stuff that was mentioned before - what about BDSM - wouldn't it support to hurt people, humilate them?
what about a member who seeks a milf model to roleplay he is 14 and will be seduced by his teacher? he pretends to be underage - should it be banned?

the european union is about to forbid displaying minors in sexual and/or romantical relationships.
i think that is wrong - there are such things and it should be okay to reflect the world as it is. and i don't think anyone will be saved from sick perverts through it.
if you think it is great to have such a law you have also to realize that it will forbid work like "Romeo and Juliet".

i have zero tolerance about real crimes against children. But consenting adults shall do whatever they like with each other as long as no other comes to harm.

 

[Keithy]

the european union is about to forbid displaying minors in sexual and/or romantical relationships.
i think that is wrong - there are such things and it should be okay to reflect the world as it is. and i don't think anyone will be saved from sick perverts through it.
if you think it is great to have such a law you have also to realize that it will forbid work like "Romeo and Juliet".

Banning Romeo and Juliet was actually my first thought when I read the first sentence. They're about twelve and I do believe they have them some awkward twelve year old sex.

 

[Sevrin]

They're about twelve and I do believe they have them some awkward twelve year old sex.

You've not read Romeo and Juliet I take it.

 

[Rose]

the european union is about to forbid displaying minors in sexual and/or romantical relationships.
i think that is wrong - there are such things and it should be okay to reflect the world as it is. and i don't think anyone will be saved from sick perverts through it.
if you think it is great to have such a law you have also to realize that it will forbid work like "Romeo and Juliet".

Banning Romeo and Juliet was actually my first thought when I read the first sentence. They're about twelve and I do believe they have them some awkward twelve year old sex.

If I remember correctly she was actually 14 and he was 17 or 18. So technically they were both legal. Just sayin...They determined her age when the nurse answered the mother about Juliet's impending birthday and that if Juliet weren't wed soon she'd become an old maid.

 

[Keithy]

They're about twelve and I do believe they have them some awkward twelve year old sex.

You've not read Romeo and Juliet I take it.

I read it last in middle school. So I don't remember it since very well since it was like 15 years ago? Something like that. But yeah, 16 for romeo and 13 for Juliet. Having sex with a 13 year old would still probably pretty weird though. I'm more of a Hamlet and Macbeth guy.

Also in the US that would only be legal under a state with close age consent laws.

 

[Sevrin]

They're about twelve and I do believe they have them some awkward twelve year old sex.

You've not read Romeo and Juliet I take it.

I read it last in middle school. So I don't remember it since very well since it was like 15 years ago? Something like that. But yeah, 16 for romeo and 13 for Juliet. Having sex with a 13 year old would still probably pretty weird though. I'm more of a Hamlet and Macbeth guy.

Also in the US that would only be legal under a state with close age consent laws.

I mean, you remember there being sex scenes in Romeo and Juliet?

 

[Keithy]

I mean, you remember there being sex scenes in Romeo and Juliet?

I remember it being in a movie of R&J I saw, but I believe it was implied in the play.

 

[Jaydenrainey]

to be completely on topic should they be banned? no i dont think so.
its not their fault they look young as far as age play goes that should be banned yes. age play can be taken two ways the standpoint that says at least hes not out there doing it with little girls and the other standpoint which i have. age play normalizes this fantasy and makes it less taboo to the customer making it feel like a normal appropriate thing to do after a few times. i think this kind of roleplay might trigger someone to go and try it in rl and thats why it should be banned. however mfc likes money, and a lot of the girls who look 16/act like 16 make alot of it. i have a friend who signed up who is 19 and could easily be 14 she didnt pretend to be that age but she still had a ton of pervs and a 5000 camscore by the end of the week.
i personally have the opposite issue most people think im older than i am, between the makeup, and my personal level of maturity i seem more 30 than 21. without makeup an without hearing me speak most people assume im 19. im rather eloquent for my age and have the experiences of a 40 year old. my level of bubbliness is also none. lol

 

[Jupiter551]

the european union is about to forbid displaying minors in sexual and/or romantical relationships.
i think that is wrong - there are such things and it should be okay to reflect the world as it is. and i don't think anyone will be saved from sick perverts through it.
if you think it is great to have such a law you have also to realize that it will forbid work like "Romeo and Juliet".

Banning Romeo and Juliet was actually my first thought when I read the first sentence. They're about twelve and I do believe they have them some awkward twelve year old sex.

Well as others mentioned it's legal for minors to have sex with minors, and besides - you can't take cultural things from hundreds of years ago and apply today's standards to them. Many princesses in Europe were wed and pregnant by 13 or 14 - basically as soon as they'd menstruated they were considered of marriagiable age.

And yes, I find that distasteful in the extreme - but that wasn't ABOUT pedophilia, even though it would fall into that category if we looked at it today.

Modern example? Game of Thrones the HBO series - in the book, Daenarys Targaryen is something like 12 or 13 when she's wed to Khal Drogo and is pregnant not long after. And in a medieval type setting it makes historical sense there's nothing pervy about it. In the tv series however she's an adult - and it's obvious why they changed it, it's one thing to read it in a cultural context, but it doesn't mean it's appropriate for it to be visually depicted.

 

[Jupiter551]

Oh and btw I'm reading ice & fire book 3 again right now and just got to the part where Sansa Stark

*Spoiler* highlight to see

is married off to Tyrion Lannister

In the book she's 12 at the time. In the series she's what, 16? 17?

OT, I despise Sansa lol, she's no true Stark! Sorry, inner nerd emerged lol.

 

[Keithy]

Well as others mentioned it's legal for minors to have sex with minors

Not in every state as I already said, only when a close in age exemption exists. This distinction is very important. Missouri is merely the severity of the crime and not whether a crime was committed for example. If you're under 17, no sex. Some states both parties can be charged for sexual contact prior to the age of consent. In Massachusetts it's 16 unless the person "is of a chaste life" and then the age is 18. I don't see any Close Age Exemption, it actually reads like the opposite.

you can't take cultural things from hundreds of years ago and apply today's standards to them. Many princesses in Europe were wed and pregnant by 13 or 14 - basically as soon as they'd menstruated they were considered of marriagiable age.

I don't see how this is relevant to what I said. I was responding to the fact that legislation in the EU mentioned prior would ban it. Which is stupid. It would ban it for the fact that it had a romantic relationship with minors. Unless you're responding directly to the pending law I was also responding to and not to my post, but it didn't read that way to me.

 

[Sevrin]

the european union is about to forbid displaying minors in sexual and/or romantical relationships.
i think that is wrong - there are such things and it should be okay to reflect the world as it is. and i don't think anyone will be saved from sick perverts through it.
if you think it is great to have such a law you have also to realize that it will forbid work like "Romeo and Juliet".

As a fellow devotee of Shakespeare :roll: , I am interested in learning more about this proposed legislation. Would you happen to have a link to more information?

 

[Jupiter551]

I don't see how this is relevant to what I said. I was responding to the fact that legislation in the EU mentioned prior would ban it. Which is stupid. It would ban it for the fact that it had a romantic relationship with minors. Unless you're responding directly to the pending law I was also responding to and not to my post, but it didn't read that way to me.

Yeah I was responding about the EU law. Which the more I think about it, the more ridiculous it seems. Is there a teen movie out that doesn't depict romance between underage "kids" in some way? That's just outrageous to outlaw that.

Or what about a film like Hard Candy? Pedophilia was sort of a general theme but it in no way glorified it or showed it, or made it graphic...I dunno, unless they're talking about banning media which shows pedophilia in a positive light (and I can't think of any media like that) it seems a really nutty law that will never be passed.

Censorship laws are already in place to remove graphic or openly-supportive depictions of sexual violence/sexual assault.

It's almost like...we're not even supposed to talk about it, or show its impacts...isn't it worse to hide it? How would it be any different than proposing to outlaw murder depictions in films.

 

[Traditio]

age play normalizes this fantasy and makes it less taboo to the customer making it feel like a normal appropriate thing to do after a few times. i think this kind of roleplay might trigger someone to go and try it in rl and thats why it should be banned.

I exaggerate a bit to show my point:
wouldn't it be the appropriate conclusion of this to ban games like CounterStrike or Grand Theft because the roleplay will make shooting on people feeling normal?
Should we have an eye on Bruce Willis because he shot soo many people in films that he will be desensibilized and may kill someone?

Is age play automatically sick, does it make sick or does it trigger people who are already sick? And in the latter case - shall we forbid it to everyone because some sick man will take the wrong conclusions?
Then we should ban alcohol for all because some people will get addicted. And gambling.

We have to protect people but we also have to respect their freedom of choice.

 

[Jupiter551]

age play normalizes this fantasy and makes it less taboo to the customer making it feel like a normal appropriate thing to do after a few times. i think this kind of roleplay might trigger someone to go and try it in rl and thats why it should be banned.

I exaggerate a bit to show my point:
wouldn't it be the appropriate conclusion of this to ban games like CounterStrike or Grand Theft because the roleplay will make shooting on people feeling normal?
Should we have an eye on Bruce Willis because he shot soo many people in films that he will be desensibilized and may kill someone?

Is age play automatically sick, does it make sick or does it trigger people who are already sick? And in the latter case - shall we forbid it to everyone because some sick man will take the wrong conclusions?
Then we should ban alcohol for all because some people will get addicted. And gambling.

We have to protect people but we also have to respect their freedom of choice.

One major difference - depictions of violence are not sexualized. Nor are they intended to be (unlike a cam show).

There is no moral standpoint to defend pedophilia fantasies on camsites - what if some guy has had secret fantasies about this for a while but always been too scared to do anything about it...figures he can do it on MFC with no chance of getting busted. Then likes it so much he can't help himself constantly thinking about molesting some child, maybe even his own child. One day, unable to control himself he finally acts on it.

That hypothetical fucker is responsible for his actions but it is wrong wrong WRONG for anyone to feed and encourage those kinds of fantasies if there is EVEN A CHANCE a child will be harmed as an indirect result.

Lastly, sex-offenders have generally been shown to be unable to resist their urges. It isn't a matter of "oh he's using MFC so he won't molest a child", the rate at which convicted pedophiles reoffend is staggering. There is no cure. That's why some places require chemical castration on some individuals - because it isn't a matter of whether they'll molest another child, it's a matter of how quickly they'll do it.

 

[JickyJuly]

age play normalizes this fantasy and makes it less taboo to the customer making it feel like a normal appropriate thing to do after a few times. i think this kind of roleplay might trigger someone to go and try it in rl and thats why it should be banned.

I exaggerate a bit to show my point:
wouldn't it be the appropriate conclusion of this to ban games like CounterStrike or Grand Theft because the roleplay will make shooting on people feeling normal?
Should we have an eye on Bruce Willis because he shot soo many people in films that he will be desensibilized and may kill someone?

Is age play automatically sick, does it make sick or does it trigger people who are already sick? And in the latter case - shall we forbid it to everyone because some sick man will take the wrong conclusions?
Then we should ban alcohol for all because some people will get addicted. And gambling.

We have to protect people but we also have to respect their freedom of choice.

One major difference - depictions of violence are not sexualized. Nor are they intended to be (unlike a cam show).

There is no moral standpoint to defend pedophilia fantasies on camsites - what if some guy has had secret fantasies about this for a while but always been too scared to do anything about it...figures he can do it on MFC with no chance of getting busted. Then likes it so much he can't help himself constantly thinking about molesting some child, maybe even his own child. One day, unable to control himself he finally acts on it.

That hypothetical fucker is responsible for his actions but it is wrong wrong WRONG for anyone to feed and encourage those kinds of fantasies if there is EVEN A CHANCE a child will be harmed as an indirect result.

Lastly, sex-offenders have generally been shown to be unable to resist their urges. It isn't a matter of "oh he's using MFC so he won't molest a child", the rate at which convicted pedophiles reoffend is staggering. There is no cure. That's why some places require chemical castration on some individuals - because it isn't a matter of whether they'll molest another child, it's a matter of how quickly they'll do it.

A meat cleaver to the testicles would cure it i suspect. :dance:

 

[Sevrin]

For some people, pedophilia is something that happens to other people, like mudslides or hurricanes. Others have experienced it first hand and are still trying to cope with its effects and are still confused about whether it was partly their fault and wonder why it was allowed to happen and their relationships with others are coloured by these things that happened to them that they don't want to talk about and others don't want to hear about. I mean, there are support groups, but who wants to march under the banner of "People subjected to inappropriate physical attention from adults when they were young and who still aren't over it"? Try putting that on your FB page or MFC profile and watch how many people post on your wall.

If you look young, good for you. All else being equal, that improves your earnings potential on cam sites, and should you wish, extends the length of time you can work on them successfully, should you so wish. But remember that you are also a citizen and are responsible for the choices you make.