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[WebcamStartup]

You make no sense. I don't even see how the twitter image you posted relates to the OP. YNOT is more of a blog and news site, OP is a tube site who needs participation from models to use for promotion.

Apples and oranges.

Illustrates the expressed need to bridge the B2B-side with the model-side. That's the relevance. Something that you're perfectly positioned to do.

Seriously, name a single entity better positioned for this.

 

[LittleLei]

I don't want full video scrapped from your webcam like others tube site, maybe custom short teasing with a big call to action under each video to your cam site like "Book a private show with her", i was here to find a win/win situation... and to adapt/structure of my tube site with your needs of promotion.

^^
I feel like if you would have started out asking for what kind of material you ideally needed for your "tube" site I would've been a little more accepting of the idea. When I hear tube, I think, "MY VIDEO THAT GOT CAPPED/RECORDED, I DIDN'T GIVE ANY PERMISSION FOR THIS USE, NOW IM GOING TO SEND A DMCA TO GET THIS REMOVED."

I HATE tube sites, because like Charlotte has explained all those freeloaders who have seen me on tube sites make it a point to let everyone in my room know they've seen me on a tube site and I have never been taken into a show or tipped after they make the statement.

Since it is a tube site I'm just sort of not following along because what if there are full length shows of mine already on the tube site, not seeing how a custom "come book with Leiaway" teaser would help me $$$ wise.

I however feel though if this wasn't a tube site, I would be more open ear for more information.

 

[WebcamStartup]

Which if any of you are having some major tube site issues, holler at me. I've made the right strategic partnerships for world-class DMCA protections. Seriously, I got a foreign torrent site taken down after they didn't respond to DMCA request. My partners shot a 2257 complaint to the embassy to the country the torrent site was hosted in. Torrent site is no more.

I normally don't plug myself or anything I offer, due to reasons just like this, I don't want to be "That Guy" like the OP, but I keep seeing all these DMCA issues come up. So, if you're having issues with tube sites, torrent sites, everything else, let's talk. Algorithms that look for files in different languages, the whole damn thing I'm working with is very impressive.

 

[WebcamStartup]

I know a grip of clip producers that have great luck marketing their clips via tube sites. Many of them offer a CPM to publishers as well as backlinks (traffic plus SEO benefit). So, if it's gaining conversions, earning an extra (even though pathetic) CPM and also helping with SEO, there's a benefit there.

The trick is having control over your content on the tube site. There's no benefit when a pirate uploads something to their own (non-branded) account. Also, if it's pirated, it's probably a full show and not a teaser with a call-to-action like it should be.

Hell, take it a step further, embed the teaser into a blog post, optimize that blog post to target the longtails relevant to the clip being sold and you just gained additional search real estate. Register for HubTraffic or comparable program (outside of Pornhub network) and you can double-dip on the CPM.

So yes, pirated content on tube sites is very, very, very bad. But if you're in control, it can be effective. More so for the clip sellers and not camgirls, I imagine, but I know that many of you are also producing and selling clips as well.

If you want to know more about this, holler at the original poster. I've been working with them for years (BEFORE I jumped into the camming vertical, actually) They know adult traffic and they know all about conversions. They can break this stuff down better than I can.

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

You girls are really good at scaring off the industry and the entire B2B-side of things away from this forum. Not even gonna namedrop. I'm gonna let you girls all assume that it was just some random sleazy dirtbag SEO trying to take advantage of models so you all can feel good about another roast session of a "stupid idea".

No one is "roasting" anyone. They come here to ask for our thoughts on their business ideas, and we give them. As to "scaring them off," well, they were never really here to contribute to the community beyond gathering our opinions anyway. So, uh, big loss?

You yourself have admitted that 90% of these types of posts are "stupid ideas" so I'm not sure why you are acting so defensive. In fact, it's not even your post, why do you care so much? Business partnership in the making?

 

[WebcamStartup]

No one is "roasting" anyone. They come here to ask for our thoughts on their business ideas, and we give them. As to "scaring them off," well, they were never really here to contribute to the community beyond gathering our opinions anyway. So, uh, big loss?

You yourself have admitted that 90% of these types of posts are "stupid ideas" so I'm not sure why you are acting so defensive. In fact, it's not even your post, why do you care so much? Business partnership in the making?

Actually, some historic partners of mine. Some great people, too. Really know their shit as far as traffic and conversions are concerned. And yes, this topic has started a great dialogue about everything EXCEPT what was originally covered in this post. Okay, a little bit about the tube site, but it's more about some of the other properties they're working with.

I'll call it roasting, as it's automatically preconceived that they're evil, sleazy people wanting to manipulate all the models. Hell, reread the first initial replies. Like I said, 90% of the time I will agree with you all completely, but there's that 10%. For example, go read the initial comments for Nood.tv, as well as that thread that was started about the camming social network with the model search algorithms. I'm having some very great conversation with the devs behind that right now, too. Interesting concept, I can't wait to see the POC. Plenty of more examples, just read through these forums. I've seen it happened back before I had an account and when I was just lurking myself.

And I don't think you all realize how many industry professionals lurk here. I do. They email me. Fuck, we gossip about this forum! There are people that can provide great value to you girls, that don't even want to create an account as they've seen the level of reception that is received.

There's people with great tools and ideas that can provide great value to you all that are turned off by this forum. *SO* you're all stuck with the idiots with idiotic ideas. How's that working out?

And I've made comments such as this before. Last time AmberCutie revoked my rights to even comment on that thread any further. I guess people don't like being called out like that. Thanks Amber for letting me follow up and respond on this one!

And, I will make this same point in the future. It's just a matter of time. Like I said, 90% of the time, I totally agree with you all, but this is an example of the other 10%.

And in everyone's defense here, the OP did a horrible job at explaining things. It was worded towards the internet monetization community, and not the model community. Sometimes it's very easy to forget that people aren't experienced with traffic and internet monetization.

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

There's people with great tools and ideas that can provide great value to you all that are turned off by this forum. *SO* you're all stuck with the idiots with idiotic ideas. How's that working out?

How's it working out? I don't think the intention of the forums was ever to create space for, uh, entrepreneurial hopefuls to come polish up their "ideas." So it's of no concern how many of them stay or go. Since when are we supposed to be a focus group? Unpaid at that...

Thanks for, once again, suggesting that I just don't know what I'm talking about and need to read more forum posts. But I am very well aware of the culture of ACF, so don't you worry. I do not need you to educate me on how a community I am a part of works.

I don't know why you say these posts are automatically seen as evil. I read thoroughly before making my response. But you are right, there's about a 90% chance that their post will be garbage. One thing you've said that I will continue agree with.

And I don't think you all realize how many industry professionals lurk here. I do. They email me. Fuck, we gossip about this forum!

Ooh, cool guy.

Maybe someone should go start a forum for "industry professionals" to bounce all their ideas and gossip around among themselves, since all the mean camgirls~ keep scaring them off.

 

[WebcamStartup]

How's it working out? I don't think the intention of the forums was ever to create space for, uh, entrepreneurial hopefuls to come polish up their "ideas." So it's of no concern how many of them stay or go. Since when are we supposed to be a focus group? Unpaid at that...

There are members of this forum currently leveraging some of these peoples existing tools. This is not them trying to polish ideas. The OP worded it towards the internet monetization community, and not towards models. I guess that's what happens when you're working with a traffic company.

Thanks for, once again, suggesting that I just don't know what I'm talking about and need to read more posts on the forum. But I am very well aware of the culture of ACF, so don't you worry. I do not need you to educate me on how a community I am a part of works.

Please tell me where and how I suggested you don't know what you're talking about. It's cute that you even took my comments as such.

I don't know why you say these posts are automatically seen as evil. I read thoroughly before making my response. But you are right, there's about a 90% chance that their post will be garbage. One thing you've said that I will continue agree with.

Thank you for that. A lot of girls here automatically assume that everyone is out to get them.

Maybe someone should go start a forum for "industry professionals" to bounce all their ideas and gossip around among themselves, since all the mean camgirls~ keep scaring them off.

XBIZ, primarily. Kind of a big deal. Did anyone show up to Miami? YNOT really acknowledges that there's a need to bridge the two sects and there's plenty of models that see the benefits of being able to connect with the industry.

 

[WebcamStartup]

And someone please dispute the fact that people offering value aren't wanted here. Because that's why you should be concerned about the outside perception that AmberCutie has. I'm trying to bring that to everyone's attention.

There's a lot of valuable people with valuable tools that don't want anything to do with this site. You're stuck with the dumbasses making up the 90% I keep referencing.

 

[THE MOLLIE MARIE]

Please tell me where and how I suggested you don't know what you're talking about. It's cute that you even took my comments as such.

Here ya go. Anyway this is a really unproductive conversation, so I will end it with this: I think your tone comes across as very condescending at times, but I can appreciate your attempts to get more information/clarification from these types of posters.

 

[WebcamStartup]

Here ya go. Anyway this is a really unproductive conversation, so I will end it with this: I think your tone comes across as very condescending at times, but I can appreciate your attempts to get more information/clarification from these types of posters.

I apologize if I come off that way. I don't mean to be condescending.....Okay.....I'm being *VERY* condescending in this particular thread, but it's the nature of the point I'm trying to make.

Normally I try to not condescend.

 

[AmberCutie]

And in everyone's defense here, the OP did a horrible job at explaining things. It was worded towards the internet monetization community, and not the model community.

And yet you seem upset at the fact that we tell OP we aren't interested in his schpeel when you admit he didn't introduce himself well, nor have an offer that we are likely to find favorable.

This sort of behavior is why I asked you to stop posting in other threads (and then physically removed you when you didn't comply).

Also, while you are an active poster here, none of us know you or your business well enough to trust you to "vouch" for anyone. I'm glad you seem to get some helpful business emails out of being a member here, though. Glad ACF is being good to you.

We're done here.