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Re: Hey it's another one of them posts - Cam she really like

Abort dude.

Call it off.

The "friend" is going to lash out and say you will never get to talk to her again.
Soon enough she will be back on MFC and when you go into her room, she will act bitter and angry at you and if you toss her some cash she will suddenly soften and love you again.

Just tell her you're broke and watch how fast the communication dries up.
 
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If you guys want further updates, here it is:

So "Zoe" came out of hospital today (I never called the hospital or even ask for proof but she sent me a pic of her arm which do clearly show bandages where at least an IV has been).

I am talking with Zoe now as I type this, I asked her how she was, how scared I was for her and I hope she is alright. Zoe told me she is ok, it was stress and lack of nutrition that made her sick.

Zoe is saying she really still wants to see me on Wednesday (I haven't cancel the flight / hotel yet, just said that I was going to).

Zoe has told me about her rent issues, that she needs to pack a bag, the landlord will want his rent or she has to leave and will be homeless.

I said, what about next month? Even if you got the money this month, what will you do next month? She said she will work as much as possible on cam, to ensure she makes enough for rent.

I said, you have to understand from my point of view. Of course I don't want to see you out on the street. I am not a bad man. I am afraid that you don't "love" me as you say but only want money.

She has said why would I ask you to come here if I didn't love you. I just need help this time. Please I beg you...

So this is where we are as of right now.... To be honest, I am starting to get angry over this. If this is true, I could be throwing away a lot over a few hundred pounds, surly it is worth the risk? but it is almost like if I don't send money I am the bad guy, and it is this guilt trip method that to me almost confirms that this is only about money.

Thank you all for the kind words and advice so far, I do genuinely appreciate it.
 
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Bonjour said:
If this is true, I could be throwing away a lot over a few hundred pounds

NO! Get that shit out of your head!

Expecting money from a romantic interest (you still have yet to meet) is so far from normal, it's in the stratosphere. In fact, it's the kind of thing a girl should be afraid to admit to someone she is still hoping to meet and make a good first impression. You are not her daddy and she looks like an immature lazy unstable princess.

If this story IS true, is she mentally stable and mature enough for you anyway? She isn't able to pay her rent because she didn't work enough... not really a super adult mature way of getting on in the world.
This sounds like the classic bait and switch. "oy vey, I'm so miserable camming I got sick with sadness please save me daddy *pout*" BLECH!
gross.
 
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Bonjour said:
If you guys want further updates, here it is:

So "Zoe" came out of hospital today (I never called the hospital or even ask for proof but she sent me a pic of her arm which do clearly show bandages where at least an IV has been).

I am talking with Zoe now as I type this, I asked her how she was, how scared I was for her and I hope she is alright. Zoe told me she is ok, it was stress and lack of nutrition that made her sick.

Zoe is saying she really still wants to see me on Wednesday (I haven't cancel the flight / hotel yet, just said that I was going to).

Zoe has told me about her rent issues, that she needs to pack a bag, the landlord will want his rent or she has to leave and will be homeless.

I said, what about next month? Even if you got the money this month, what will you do next month? She said she will work as much as possible on cam, to ensure she makes enough for rent.

I said, you have to understand from my point of view. Of course I don't want to see you out on the street. I am not a bad man. I am afraid that you don't "love" me as you say but only want money.

She has said why would I ask you to come here if I didn't love you. I just need help this time. Please I beg you...

So this is where we are as of right now.... To be honest, I am starting to get angry over this. If this is true, I could be throwing away a lot over a few hundred pounds, surly it is worth the risk? but it is almost like if I don't send money I am the bad guy, and it is this guilt trip method that to me almost confirms that this is only about money.

Thank you all for the kind words and advice so far, I do genuinely appreciate it.

The begging for rent money is a huge red flag. Even if it's all true, you're the last person she should be asking for money. Her parents, brothers or sisters, the bank, her employer (I assume she works for a studio), payday loans, her friends out in the real world, these are the people she should be seeking money from. Not a potential romantic interest who she hasn't even met yet.

Needing money is sucky (I'm having to sell a bunch of stuff that I'd rather not sell in order to get myself out of the financial poop right now so I speak from experience) but there's really no excuse for begging people from the internet to bail you out. She's not even proposing a loan, or offering to pay you back (or is she?), she just (seemingly) wants you to give her hundreds of dollars. Fuck that noise.
 
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mynameisbob84 said:
The begging for rent money is a huge red flag. Even if it's all true, you're the last person she should be asking for money. Her parents, brothers or sisters, the bank, her employer (I assume she works for a studio), payday loans, her friends out in the real world, these are the people she should be seeking money from. Not a potential romantic interest who she hasn't even met yet.

Needing money is sucky (I'm having to sell a bunch of stuff that I'd rather not sell in order to get myself out of the financial poop right now so I speak from experience) but there's really no excuse for begging people from the internet to bail you out. She's not even proposing a loan, or offering to pay you back (or is she?), she just (seemingly) wants you to give her hundreds of dollars. Fuck that noise.

She hasn't spoken to her mom or sister for a number of years (Ironically her mom kicked her out of the family home because she didn't work)

She used to work for a studio but now works from her flat that she cant pay the rent for

She has one friend, who was the one I have been speaking to while she was in hospital. Her friend has said that should would pay me back 100 euros a month for 4 months if I did pay for the rent

You guys are all right of course, but it is difficult when you have feelings for someone.
 
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She has just said, don't give me any money. Just come here. Please I beg you, I really want to see you.

I still don't know... I have already paid for the flight and hotel but I can cancel them still...
 
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I hate to say it but Id be out too. No no no.

First it was the friend asking you for money and she didnt even know about it, but now IT IS actually her asking for it outright. Nope. Not only is that inappropriate but this screams scam in every way now.

Hey I can slap some band aids on my arm and say I was in the hospital too. I could even use some black eye shadow to look like a bruise around it and red lipstick to make a tiny dot that will look like a needle hole. Its that easy to fake. I call bull shit on that one big time.

She said she'll work more next month to make sure she'd make rent then.. but why didnt she this month? Like you said she hates the job but so what. Millions of people hate their job but they do it to have a place to live and feed themselves every day. Hate it or not she should have already been working and not expect/guilt you to paying it for her. Girls here have worked hours and hours on end to make rent or for bills so she can too before the rent is due in 2 WEEKS from now !

Tell her you are sorry but no. You can not in good conscience pay her rent. That you feel it may be a scam. That you're sorry if it is not but it looks like one and she has to understand that. That you're gonna cancel the trip now and that's final. That she should work as much as she can to pay her rent and focus on that. You'll visit her on cam if you can but a visit now would cut into time she should be working anyway. And if she needs to move she should figure that out as well. That once things calm down for her you can reschedule then without money involved. Include something in there about how you appreciate her not guilting you or trying to make you feel bad by saying no as well.

Replying with something like that will fish out a lot of the truth actually. Youll see if she does indeed go to work and is putting in the hours like she should be and would be if it's not a scam. Youll also see a lot of what's what by her reaction to saying no to paying her bills. If she flips out on you in any way run away instantly. If she comes up with any excuses as to why she now cant work then again run the fuck away. If she includes any guilt trips or more sob stories then again run the hell away. Basically unless she gets her ass in gear and goes to work and leaves you alone about the money and still wants to meet up later then i would run the fucking hell away.

I would not go there now under any circumstances. All thats gonna do is mean she could meet you and act like a perfect angel to get you to pay the rent. No. Any responsible normal person is gonna say to cancel so they could work to HAVE A PLACE TO LIVE. Geezus. As much as I may wanna see or meet anyone ever im gonna want a place to live first and foremost.
 
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Bonjour said:
She has just said, don't give me any money. Just come here. Please I beg you, I really want to see you.

I still don't know... I have already paid for the flight and hotel but I can cancel them still...

Life is confusing, dude. I only have a handful of rules I really live by:
a) Never hit anything harder than you.
b) If it seems too good to be true, I probably is.
c) Ain't nothing free.
c.1) Some things aren't worth the cost.
c.2) Money isn't everything and not all costs involved are monetary.
d) If it don't feel right (i.e. if you feel you have to seek an outside opinion on more than one occasion)... it's wrong.
d.1) If you have to second-guess (third/fourth) a good majority of the advice you're given as well as your own better judgement... you're probably going to do it anyway.

Best of luck, man.
 
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Bonjour said:
She has just said, don't give me any money. Just come here. Please I beg you, I really want to see you.

I still don't know... I have already paid for the flight and hotel but I can cancel them still...

I think that this sounds like a classic scam. I'm SO sorry. Even if it isn't a scam, it's incredibly uncool and very inappropriate. I'll bet that she feels like if she can just get you there, she can charm her way into your wallet (ugh, I'm so sorry, I hate saying that).

The timing of her hospital visit is just TOO convenient. All of this crazy drama RIGHT before you're supposed to be there? Her "friend" told you that Zoe would be mortified if she knew that she had asked you for money for her, but now that you ARE talking directly to her, she is begging you for it? That sounds pretty weird. Also, this all coming up right before you're supposed to arrive? That's SO fishy!

This just isn't your responsibility! I know you care about her, but I would seriously step away. Let her take care of herself like a grown-up and maybe after things settle down you can see what happens. Has she given a reason why she wasn't working all month? Maybe she felt confident that you would bail her out in time?

I would strongly suggest that you cancel everything! She should be able to understand that this doesn't seem like the ideal time for a trip, especially since she needs to either be resting up after her hospital visit or spending time trying to get together rent money or come up with some sort of plan. Even if this is all legit, this is NOT the time for a visit. If you're not ready to call it quits completely yet, you can at least tell her you think this isn't a good time for a visit and see what happens after all of this blows over.

I'm sorry that this is happening, you seem really nice and certainly don't deserve this sort of treatment! Hopefully you can figure out what's really going on soon but I think going there at this point is a mistake.

EDIT: Teagan covered a lot of this already in her awesome post, but I'm leaving mine up to just reiterate some points and add another voice to the "Please, please cancel your trip" advice.
 
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Thanks Everyone.

This will be the last update on this - I have basically told her I wont be sending any money, I wont be coming to Bucharest and thank you for everything (I have pretty much copied what Teagan_Chase wrote as that was very sensible, sound advice).

She has messaged back saying she is crying and I just reiterated that maybe at such time you are in a better position maybe then we can revisit this.

Well I can say one thing, this has been an interesting month!

Again, thank you everyone, it was great to get everyone's advice, there are a lot of very smart sound people on this board.

Now, I am going to go on MFC and fall in love with another internet model... Any takers? :-D
 
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Bonjour said:
Thanks Everyone.

This will be the last update on this - I have basically told her I wont be sending any money, I wont be coming to Bucharest and thank you for everything (I have pretty much copied what Teagan_Chase wrote as that was very sensible, sound advice).

She has messaged back saying she is crying and I just reiterated that maybe at such time you are in a better position maybe then we can revisit this.

Well I can say one thing, this has been an interesting month!

Again, thank you everyone, it was great to get everyone's advice, there are a lot of very smart sound people on this board.

Now, I am going to go on MFC and fall in love with another internet model... Any takers? :-D

I will gladly take giftrocket and amazon gift cards as thanks. I swear it won't go to rent but ridiculous toys that make my kitties happy. :lol:

In all seriousness though I think youre making the right decision right now.
 
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Dude, *hugs*. I know that this has been tough for you, but it's a huge relief to see you're being smart about this. I'm sorry some people are sucky, but good on you for keeping yourself safe. :)
 
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Sorry to hear that it didn't work out for you, dude. I honestly do know how it feels to have strong emotions for a model on MFC.

On the plus side of it, now you haven't lost a ton of well-earned money for nothing.
 
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It's very easy to get swept up in emotion, even with strangers.

This thread itself is a perfect example.

You lay out the situation in the beginning, but included information about yourself. Your physical appearance and your low self esteem triggered everybody here to encourage you. Even myself when I read the first post I was thinking like.. Ah man, he's gonna get scammed.. Aw poor bastard don't do it.. oh.. well.. maybe this could be real.. there could be hope.. he should totally go for it. Fuck it.

If you had rolled in here and been like

"HELL YA! There is a cam girl that is IN LOVE with me because I'm so handsome and charming! She even said she wants me to visit her in Romania! Jackpot bitches!"

Everyone here would have replied and said "HAHAHA LOSER!! You're being SCAMMED! Enjoy losing all your money DUMBASS!"

But because you triggered our sympathy, we even believed this could be the real deal.

And then when the classic scam signs started popping up, all of our hearts broke :(

edit: and now we hate you for breaking our hearts. Jerk.
(kidding)
 
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I'm sorry to hear that things didn't work out, but I'm so glad that you've decided to back out. :clap:

Just an FYI, I passed out in April which also gave me a concussion, and I was only kept in the emergency room for maybe a couple hours. They did testing and sent me on my way once I started feeling a little better.

(I know there are circumstances where people need to stay longer though.)
 
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I prolly should not be posting as I am very late to the party, and have only read about half the first page and all the post on page 3. I do gather there were some red flags that came up in those post in the middle. I have a friend who became very close with a model, (eastern block, but that is only relevant imho as to the logistics of his story) She too had problems with rent. She also had problems with camming. Her rent problems I believe were genuine. (She was actually between places for a short time, and was very happy when she got into a new apt.) I am also very sure her camming problems were genuine. I got to know her a bit, and though she wanted to do better camming, she often did things that were self destructive. I believe she never really wanted to cam, and it showed. And anybody who has been around camming very long can tell you, that being on cam when you don't want to be is very hard to hide, and that it is very hard to keep new visitors in your room long enough to get to know and like you if it seems you are not so happy to be there. (That may have nothing to do with why your model friend has not been working enough to pay bills, I'm just saying that it can be almost impossible to cam enough if you are doing it just to pay bills, and dread being on cam. It's a vicious circle.)

With out going into any detail, (b/c that would be a breach of my friend's trust, and b/c I don't know all the details) the way I believe things went for him, was something like this. At some point they became close enough that there was an open invitation for him to travel to visit her. I am not sure why he did not do so, but my feeling was that he did not see that as leading to anything more substantial. It was pretty clear he fancied something more than a week with an attractive model, and if he had only wanted that spending $1500-2500 on airfare wouldn't make any sense. I know that he had offered to fly her over here with a no obligation visit of a week or two. If she wanted to stay than they could figure it out from there, and if not she could get back on the plane and fly home. In this way, he was out no more $ than going to see her, and it put at least a bit of the commitment in her hands. (It also was working with home court advantage or more importantly not giving up home court advantage, and not being familiar with things if there were any problems.)

I'm sure he did quite a lot for her for over a year, but never did the complete saviour thing and pay her whole way, and eventually he could not do as much as she needed. And she never did make the commitment to come visit. She doesn't cam any more and I know he might have liked if it had gone differently, but I'm sure he is better off than had he spent the $ to visit her, with the same end result, and I'm guessing happier too. I believe they are still in touch, so who knows. (And to be honest, when I was younger I did the saviour thing more than once, and in the end it is my experience that you do not get respected for it and are often treated like a sucker.)

On being 50lbs over weight thing - that should only bother you, if it bothers you! What I mean is, yea, if you feel you want to do what it takes to shed the extra pounds, and being lighter will make you feel better, and/or better about yourself than that's what you will do. But in the mean time don't let that get you down wrapping all your worth in how you look. Yes, obese is an ugly word, and can even hurt, (especially if you thought 50 lbs overweight was just chunky as I did) when it is listed under the doctors evaluation of your most recent examination. And, being a bit more than a bit heavy is not the best look, but I assume you can still wipe your own ass without assistants? Well OK then, you are a race car in development, that extra weight is like the street tires you're running, or the stock fuel system, and when you lose the weight it will be like adding race slicks, or a supercharger, to the race car you already are. I'm pressing you on this point b/c I used to be very much like you I think - I thought I didn't stand a chance, b/c at best I've always been ,,, lets say a little thick. I was so sure that i didn't have a chance, that often I was the main reason I didn't have a chance. Remember woman don't tend to be the superficial, visual douchebags us men are, so be confident that the great person you are will count for something. Maybe being a little heavy does handicap you a little, but if you are a caring, kind, dude with a good sense of humor, (which you seem to be from what your post here suggest), let that shine, and don't let the extra pounds make you feel ugly.

Even if this turns out to be more scam than real, it can happen, and it is not always a scam. This story
https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... es#p293430
doesn't prove that one way or the other, but I do know where you are coming from.
 
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I think you spotted warnings and others highlighted them to be sure.

Just highlighting a few bullets:
1) Why is it the whole rent? Why not partial?
2) Is her apartment luxury? A 'friend' has an apartment and it's $200 a month in Bucharest.
3) Why can't they make it this month? What will happen next month? If they usually make it with extra left over then why were there no savings to reduce this months? Next month how can they afford the rent + pay back if their usual take home is below it.

I'm aware that for some it is a hand-to-mouth existence. Even with hospital some things do not add up (other than I'm aware it can cost money to see Doctor over there as well).

It is hard to say no to people you like, but the old saying goes - anything that's too good to be true most likely is.

Last point would be... what were you looking to get out of all this? If you're not willing to move/live in the country then I don't think you should be chasing their ladies :p Lust != love.
Good luck for the future :)
 
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Bonjour said:
Thanks Everyone.

This will be the last update on this - I have basically told her I wont be sending any money, I wont be coming to Bucharest and thank you for everything (I have pretty much copied what Teagan_Chase wrote as that was very sensible, sound advice).

She has messaged back saying she is crying and I just reiterated that maybe at such time you are in a better position maybe then we can revisit this.

Well I can say one thing, this has been an interesting month!

Again, thank you everyone, it was great to get everyone's advice, there are a lot of very smart sound people on this board.

Now, I am going to go on MFC and fall in love with another internet model... Any takers? :-D

I am so sorry this happened to you.

Just my :twocents-02cents: again:

I don't know how things are in Romania, but here in the UK if you can't pay rent they are not going to kick you out the first time you miss a payment. Legally they can't in most places as far as I'm aware. (I actually know someone who's been struggling for about 3 months to evict a tenant for non-payment - they don't even stand a chance to get them out till at least March, April). Especially in the winter months, what kind of landlord would risk the lawsuit and the media exposure? I can just see it in the Daily Main: 'Hartless Landlord evicts tenant for being 1 one day late on rent' haha

I am in the low to medium popularity level on MFC and I am also only on only 3-4 nights a week (4 on a really ambitious week and rarely longer than 3 hours) and to be perfectly honest, I am not even trying as much as I could and I still find a target of 3-4 hundred quid in a 2 week period more than achievable. Your Zoe sounds like she's in the higher end of the spectrum so you do the maths. lol


Next time a model asks you for medical bills money check if that country has something similar with our NHS, I might be completely off the charts here, but I do think the US system is pretty unique and most places in Europe do have some free state paid medical thingy. (unresearched opinion, but hey ho)

And again, I am so sorry this happened to you. I was hoping for a nice little happy romantic ending when I started reading this thread. We are so concerned about model safety generally that most of us do forget the risks members expose themselves often too. So this has been a real eye opener for me. And I'm sure it's been like that for a lot of members, so thanks for sharing your adventures with us.

Take care xoxo
 
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Hi Zoomer, mate

Zoomer said:
1) Why is it the whole rent? Why not partial?

Her rent is 400 euros, her payout today on MFC was 70USD (coincidently, the amount I tipped her...)

Zoomer said:
2) Is her apartment luxury? A 'friend' has an apartment and it's $200 a month in Bucharest

It is just a standard studio apartment, not luxury at all. Living in London I could only dream of paying 400 euros a month for rent :)

Zoomer said:
3) Why can't they make it this month? What will happen next month? If they usually make it with extra left over then why were there no savings to reduce this months? Next month how can they afford the rent + pay back if their usual take home is below it.


She hasn't been working is the only answer I can think of, and next month I am going to guess will be the same as this month. Although she has said that she is going to start working 7 hours a day so she doesn't get in this situation again, so maybe it won’t be

Zoomer said:
Last point would be... what were you looking to get out of all this? If you're not willing to move/live in the country then I don't think you should be chasing their ladies :p Lust != love.

I don't know what I was looking to get out of it... That's a lie actually, I just feel stupid to admit what I was looking to get out of it was a relationship and potentially a serious one, even if that meant relocation, although if it did ever happen she would come to England rather then me coming to Romania.

(It took me ages to figure out how to do the multiple quotes thing lol but it is so obvious once you figure it out :)
 
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Hi All,

I know I said my last update would be the last update but you have all been so great that I thought I would share the last interactions that happened today.

So basically today was the last day that Zoe had to pay her rent otherwise she would have to pack her bags. I have asked her what she is going to do and she said she can stay round her friends for a couple of nights but then she will be living in a park!!! I did mention that this is even more of a reason for me to cancel my trip. She needs to focus on getting somewhere to live, not to entertain me for a week while I am out there visiting. Zoe is really pissed that I cancelled my trip and I am finding it difficult to figure out if she is genuinely disappointed that she won't see me or if she is just pissed that a gravy train has stopped

Queen_Anne said:
I am so sorry this happened to you.

Thank you

Queen_Anne said:
I don't know how things are in Romania, but here in the UK if you can't pay rent they are not going to kick you out the first time you miss a payment. Legally they can't in most places as far as I'm aware. (I actually know someone who's been struggling for about 3 months to evict a tenant for non-payment - they don't even stand a chance to get them out till at least March, April). Especially in the winter months, what kind of landlord would risk the lawsuit and the media exposure? I can just see it in the Daily Main: 'Hartless Landlord evicts tenant for being 1 one day late on rent' haha

I did ask does she not a have a lease agreement, or does she not have tenants’ rights? Apparently not, I know in the UK it is certainly true that it is not easy to evict a tenant for being a week late or even a month late on rent, in Romania it would seem not to be the case. Gotta love the Daily Mail though, just for the comments section alone, that site is priceless!

Queen_Anne said:
I am in the low to medium popularity level on MFC and I am also only on only 3-4 nights a week (4 on a really ambitious week and rarely longer than 3 hours) and to be perfectly honest, I am not even trying as much as I could and I still find a target of 3-4 hundred quid in a 2 week period more than achievable. Your Zoe sounds like she's in the higher end of the spectrum so you do the maths. lol

Zoe has a camscore of like 1100 so very average but as MFC is her only job if the mycamgirl.net site is accurate her time on cam has been like, 38 hours in the last 6 months which is broken down to 16 hours in the last 3 months, 5 hours in the last 30 days and 0 hours in the last 7 days. Even if I did pay her rent this month, she is going to be in the exact same situation next month I feel with that amount of time spent working.

Queen_Anne said:
Next time a model asks you for medical bills money check if that country has something similar with our NHS, I might be completely off the charts here, but I do think the US system is pretty unique and most places in Europe do have some free state paid medical thingy. (unresearched opinion, but hey ho)

Wikipedia mentions that Romania has a national health service but it would seem to be an insurance based system (similar to our NI(or is NI for pensions? I can never tell)) but where only if you pay in do you get the service free at the point of use, not completely universal like it is here. There also seems to be a lot of corruption, I do believe her that you need to pay an insurance premium to use the hospital facilities.

It’s the guilt trip that causes me the most pain, directly asking for money would be easier in a strange way. It’s the “OMG, I have to pack my bags, what am I going to do? I am going to have to sleep in the park” that is the killer. I can’t go there, to this girl that I have fallen for and visit her in the park, that’s crazy! I would end up giving her money for rent just because I couldn’t see her like that, then she ends up with her rent paid without even having to ask for any money and I end up feeling like a sucker.

I have blocked her on WhatsApp because I just can’t deal with the guilt; it almost feels like it is my fault that she is in the situation she is in. I know I don’t owe her anything but I could have helped and I chose not to. Probably the right decision overall but I can’t help but feel really shitty about it.

Thank you all, I think I am going to stick with trying to find an English girl away from the internet. Wow, how old fashioned! 

(Sorry for the really long post)
 
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Bonjour said:
I have blocked her on WhatsApp because I just can’t deal with the guilt; it almost feels like it is my fault that she is in the situation she is in. I know I don’t owe her anything but I could have helped and I chose not to. Probably the right decision overall but I can’t help but feel really shitty about it.

Thank you all, I think I am going to stick with trying to find an English girl away from the internet. Wow, how old fashioned! 

(Sorry for the really long post)

It's not, you don't, and you made the right choice as hard as it must have been. Once again I'm sorry this story turned out this way, but I'm amazed at how well you handled it.
Based on how you handled this situation alone, I can tell you have good things in your future.
 
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Bonjour, I won't say too much and make this about me, but I understand to a point what you have been through. While the model who scammed me never invited me to visit (I cut it off before that point), she did play the guilt game. Said her rent was due and she would be homeless, her son was starving, boss would not pay her, she had no family or friends to help her, etc. I felt horrible and I helped more than I should have, in tokens and real money.

Turns out she had no boss, was not being evicted and she had family and friends to help. What threw me off was when I researched all avenues of help she could turn to and she said she would not beg for charity. That was a big heads-up. When I clued in finally, I too just blocked and deleted her from all methods of communication. Sorry this had to happen to you, but better to learn now than when you are in Romania not speaking the language or knowing anyone else.

As for your previous post where you said you expected ridicule, nobody here would. We all thought she was the real deal too. And you went in with eyes wide open, alert to being scammed. Other threads with guys asking similar questions go downhill, because the guys are blinded to the scam. So there is nothing to ridicule with you ;)

Edit: Do not beat yourself up and feel guilty. The evidence strongly points to her scamming you. Cutting that off is not something you should feel guilt over.
 
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glad you see her scheming ways before it was too late! this often happens.. all the time to guys who say "wow that girl is beautiful!" and shes from romania or other "suspect" countries.. I'm sure some women over there are not scammers, and legitimately wants a better life (which is why they go on these mail order bride sites) but its always good to be careful, especially on the internet, you never know who will catfish you. Even if she was who she was, it doesn't mean she was telling you the truth about things and you can not have a relationship based on lies, it just wont work. :twocents-02cents:
 
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Quick follow-up. Is she currently pregnant? How long ago was that original incident where you noticed she was upset?
 
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Maybe doesn't belong here but I found out today my model fire r received my Christmas gift to her. Said it was the nicest thing she has ever received from somone. Made me happy to hear that.over
 
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Over time that feeling of guilt will go away. You are in absolutely no way shape or form responsible for the situation that SHE got herself into, especially with the little effort in hours that she's put into MFC. You can't help people that aren't willing to help themselves.


At least if you cancel your plane ticket, you get to keep your $ and your kidneys! ;)
 
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justamember said:
Maybe doesn't belong here but I found out today my model fire r received my Christmas gift to her. Said it was the nicest thing she has ever received from somone. Made me happy to hear that.over
Roger. Ten four. :handgestures-salute:
 
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Bonjour said:
It’s the guilt trip that causes me the most pain, directly asking for money would be easier in a strange way. It’s the “OMG, I have to pack my bags, what am I going to do? I am going to have to sleep in the park” that is the killer. I can’t go there, to this girl that I have fallen for and visit her in the park, that’s crazy! I would end up giving her money for rent just because I couldn’t see her like that, then she ends up with her rent paid without even having to ask for any money and I end up feeling like a sucker.

I have blocked her on WhatsApp because I just can’t deal with the guilt; it almost feels like it is my fault that she is in the situation she is in. I know I don’t owe her anything but I could have helped and I chose not to. Probably the right decision overall but I can’t help but feel really shitty about it.

Thank you all, I think I am going to stick with trying to find an English girl away from the internet. Wow, how old fashioned! 

Sorry to be late to join this thread matey, it's obviously your decision, but my suggestion (I refrain from using the word 'advice') would have been to go, but for a shorter time - flights are peanuts from Luton/Stansted on Wizzair/Ryanair, and a couple of nights in a reasonable hotel isn't going to break the bank, even at late notice, you'll get a 1 bedroom studio for eur 40 per night.

I'd guess that you'd know a lot more, and be much more comfortable with your decision (either way) with a face-to-face, and the short duration wouldn't give her the time to 'work you', if that was her aim.
Further, from my (limited) experience, Bucharest is nice enough, streets are clean, no 'Hostel' type gangs waiting to whisk you off, no muggers on the streets, most people speak a decent level of English, food/drink is pretty cheap.

From my (again admittedly limited) experience, the girls that are scamming won't give you their real name & address, and won't actually meet - something unexpected 'comes up' at the last moment.

I bet even now, you're thinking "what if?"...
 
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