I have never seen the top 10 move like tonight...

[UncleThursday]

So, obviously Panzii was top. Morella moved back to #2 and stayed there, but she did a fucking marathon session, well over 12 hours.

But then there was Aspen. Holy fuck... she moved from #6 when I looked at her at one point in the night, to #3 at the end of the night. Granted she had LovelyKittie with her, so double the regs... but moving 3 spaces in the top 10 on the last night and she didn't even log in until like 5 PM Pacific? I don't think I have ever seen that. And all the models above her were online for pretty much the whole time.

Crazy I say.

 

[Zoomer]

I saw a 6k token topic done in 15 mins flat when I had a peek. But I was only havinga peek to see if the topic would be Kittie on the Sybian :thumbleft:
Then I went to sleep because... some things are just more important

 

[Shaun__]

I saw a 6k token topic done in 15 mins flat when I had a peek. But I was only havinga peek to see if the topic would be Kittie on the Sybian :thumbleft:
Then I went to sleep because... some things are just more important

MFC lets you see topics on the main page now, if you select to in the model list preferences menu.

 

[Tffny]

I watched the madness! I saw LOTS of huge tips in the last 5 mins.

 

[KamikaziKitty]

I did crap last night but hearing other girls kicking butt is total awesome sauce!

 

[JerryBoBerry]

I was in a more chill mood last night. So instead of being in one of the top 10's I spent the whole evening in Posie's room. I find her to be very relaxing to hang out with.

 

[UncleThursday]

I was in a more chill mood last night. So instead of being in one of the top 10's I spent the whole evening in Posie's room. I find her to be very relaxing to hang out with.

I was lounge10k-ing last night, mostly. I had a few friends in PMs, I visited EveCate's room for the first time, I sent out some small tips to friends and some to Morella because, even though I don't perv her, I think it's awesome that a cosplayer made it that high in the rankings. I have her on my list just to see what she dresses up as in preview windows. I will admit, though, she has a gorgeous face.

So I'd just click Aspen's menu to see her topic/rank (the cam quality in the hotel they were in was crap). But I saw her at #6 and was like, yeah, seems normal. Then at the end of the night I saw her at #3 and was like in 5 hours? Whether people like her or not, you can't argue that she has a lot of fans who tip her a lot overall.

I also got some funny screen shots of Emmy/CoockieCapone in a sumo suit I will have to post soon. :lol:

 

[UncleThursday]

I watched the madness! I saw LOTS of huge tips in the last 5 mins.

Yeah, Morella's room thought Aspen was going to beat her, so there were massive big tips and small tips for her in the last half hour. It was crazy... Morella's smile must have hurt her cheeks so bad. Plus after that marathon, she's probably still sleeping.

 

[zippypinhead]

Here's a kind-of pattern I'm noticing with a few models: it seems like they will push hard for a high spot on the roster one month, and then disappear even from the top 20 the next month. I wonder if it's something measured and intended by some models, like it seems to have clearly been with Panzii, who obviously makes August the big month, or like a big push month followed by a month off, or is it more just a luck of the tokens type of thing? Obviously, there are those models who are consistently in the top 10 or 20, but is a big push one month, followed by a refractory period (so to speak) the next month also a popular strategy?

 

[AmberCutie]

Here's a kind-of pattern I'm noticing with a few models: it seems like they will push hard for a high spot on the roster one month, and then disappear even from the top 20 the next month. I wonder if it's something measured and intended by some models, like it seems to have clearly been with Panzii, who obviously makes August the big month, or like a big push month followed by a month off, or is it more just a luck of the tokens type of thing? Obviously, there are those models who are consistently in the top 10 or 20, but is a big push one month, followed by a refractory period (so to speak) the next month also a popular strategy?

For anyone who isn't a usual Miss MFC superstar, it is hard to be in that list more than a couple/few times a year. I have to plan top 20 run months out in advance just to barely make it. So these girls who only cam for mega months, i can understand.

 

[yossarian]

Every time I've seen somebody who isn't usually up there get that high on Miss MFC, it seems to have been a concerted effort that starts on the first of the month. I think it's too difficult a task to be accidental.

 

[bsurs]

Here's a kind-of pattern I'm noticing with a few models: it seems like they will push hard for a high spot on the roster one month, and then disappear even from the top 20 the next month. [...]

I captured this a few minutes ago. I was struck by the fact that none of the last top 20 were online, while top 20 models from previous months were back making a push. Yeah, I know there were probably a number of contributing factors -- US holiday weekend, taking a break on the first day of the month, ... Still, I think it does help illustrate your point.

 

[zippypinhead]

No judgement on my part, mind you. Just something I noticed. I actually think it's a pretty smart strategy.

 

[UncleThursday]

Here's a kind-of pattern I'm noticing with a few models: it seems like they will push hard for a high spot on the roster one month, and then disappear even from the top 20 the next month. I wonder if it's something measured and intended by some models, like it seems to have clearly been with Panzii, who obviously makes August the big month, or like a big push month followed by a month off, or is it more just a luck of the tokens type of thing? Obviously, there are those models who are consistently in the top 10 or 20, but is a big push one month, followed by a refractory period (so to speak) the next month also a popular strategy?

For anyone who isn't a usual Miss MFC superstar, it is hard to be in that list more than a couple/few times a year. I have to plan top 20 run months out in advance just to barely make it. So these girls who only cam for mega months, i can understand.

There are models many 'expect' in the top 20 almost every month. Some are in there for 9-10 months out of the year, or even all year. To some, it seems like those models put in very little effort to get there. In the cases of those models who just happen to have whale tipper fans, this might be true. But a lot of the normal top 20 models are the ones who put in the long hours every month.

Then you get the models who haven't even made top 100 any month who do pushes for that, or even lower. LilyMarie is pushing to try to be top 300 this month, since she has never been there, as an example. From the sounds of it, she's planning on doing more than her normal schedule. And good for her; I hope she can do it. I remember ZoeMadison used to just try to be top 100 a lot on her old account (dunno if she has made it on her new account, but her room count has been very high every time I see her); and this was before top 100 got the bonus.

It's obvious, for some models, just getting to a certain goal is all they want. Probably more for personal satisfaction to say 'YES! I did it!' over just the additional monetary benefits that month. Especially for non-studio models who can very often probably find excuses to not cam more often since they make their own schedule. Others who have gotten used to the earnings from a higher rank might do it because they have based their lifestyle around those earnings. And then there's those few who just have those few guys who tip them thousands at a time every day.

Still, I noticed some models last night who were super excited to see their rank on day 1. One cute Brazilian girl made it to #14 and was going nuts about it. I'm actually surprised to see she's only dropped a few places. I actually expected her to have dropped out of the top 20 already. First day rankings don't mean a lot, unless a model can keep it. Someone came into the lounge 10k and mentioned another girl saying she earned 300k on day 1, but she was only rank 9, and is still there. But I am doubting the 300k on day 1, because if so, that means the models in the top 3 are currently looking to be well over million token months. Obviously she earned a lot and enough not to drop in rank... but 300k on day 1? Highly doubtful.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Someone came into the lounge 10k and mentioned another girl saying she earned 300k on day 1, but she was only rank 9, and is still there. But I am doubting the 300k on day 1, because if so, that means the models in the top 3 are currently looking to be well over million token months. Obviously she earned a lot and enough not to drop in rank... but 300k on day 1? Highly doubtful.

I think 300k on day 1 would rank you in first place unless you were very unlucky, though I'm pretty certain number 1 miss mfc is well over a million tokens. I think the dude in the lounge probably misheard/misread and it was probably 30k tokens in the first day, that ranking you around number 9 sounds about right, though I'm not sure of the first day numbers.

I get excited about ranks on the first few days, it feels good to see your name up there and it's encouraging to know you're ranked. If I have decent ranking at the beginning of the month I'm much more likely to push further to try and keep my ranking. It's good for motivation.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Someone came into the lounge 10k and mentioned another girl saying she earned 300k on day 1, but she was only rank 9, and is still there. But I am doubting the 300k on day 1, because if so, that means the models in the top 3 are currently looking to be well over million token months. Obviously she earned a lot and enough not to drop in rank... but 300k on day 1? Highly doubtful.

I think 300k on day 1 would rank you in first place unless you were very unlucky, though I'm pretty certain number 1 miss mfc is well over a million tokens. I think the dude in the lounge probably misheard/misread and it was probably 30k tokens in the first day, that ranking you around number 9 sounds about right, though I'm not sure of the first day numbers.

I get excited about ranks on the first few days, it feels good to see your name up there and it's encouraging to know you're ranked. If I have decent ranking at the beginning of the month I'm much more likely to push further to try and keep my ranking. It's good for motivation.

Yeah. A million a month is almost assuredly a very low number for some months. Going back to when MaryJane got that 467K tip on the first day of the month, that of course put her up to number one position. But she was overtaken on the 12th of the month. So, not only did the first place make that many in 12 days but also all the tips MJ had made in that time. And that wasn't even halfway through the month. So double that megatip plus a significant amount per month is easily assumed. Very easily.

 

[Kickaz]

Miss mfc takes a lot of dedication, long hours, luck and competitive character from both the model and the members.
The stress level is insanely high so I don't blame some models that take a whole month off after a top 20 month. I believe every top model in this case earns every token she makes. Sometimes it might seem like she's just getting paid to have fun on cam or wtv but looks are deceiving. Even if she didn't do any raffles, skype and stuff of that sort looking bubbly and happy everyday takes effort. You have to add the stress to maintain success on top of that and trying to make everyone happy.
Also tokens vary a lot by the month!!! some months aren't as high as you guys think... in fact the amount of tokens it takes is much much lower!

Either way I am very grateful that my fans believed in me, having me there two months in a row! I am not sure if i will ever get close to the top 20, or top 10 again but the ride was unbelievable!

Also most girls do really long shifts the last day of the month so that explains why most of them weren't on cam the first of next month.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Also most girls do really long shifts the last day of the month so that explains why most of them weren't on cam the first of next month.

Thinking about the amount of hours it takes to get into the top 100/20 for most models I would expect them to not work the first or even second day of the next month! I'm going to try for top 100 in October, if I manage it I think i'll probably take like a week off first week of November! I tried doing top 100/top 200 in Feb, it started out well, but oh my god it was exhausting! I enjoyed it until I got too ill to work and had to call it off, but the physical and mental exhaustion from working 8 hours a day on cam was insane! I have a serious amount of respect for all the girls who work so hard and manage it! Some girls do barely cam and just wonder into the top 100, and even some seem to make top 20 without busting their arse's, those girls are very lucky, but most I think work their arse's off!

 

[UncleThursday]

Also most girls do really long shifts the last day of the month so that explains why most of them weren't on cam the first of next month.

Thinking about the amount of hours it takes to get into the top 100/20 for most models I would expect them to not work the first or even second day of the next month! I'm going to try for top 100 in October, if I manage it I think i'll probably take like a week off first week of November! I tried doing top 100/top 200 in Feb, it started out well, but oh my god it was exhausting! I enjoyed it until I got too ill to work and had to call it off, but the physical and mental exhaustion from working 8 hours a day on cam was insane! I have a serious amount of respect for all the girls who work so hard and manage it! Some girls do barely cam and just wonder into the top 100, and even some seem to make top 20 without busting their arse's, those girls are very lucky, but most I think work their arse's off!

I'm sure by now by the socks thread and things models say make you lol, people know I talk to CuteHermine a bunch. Most months, recently, she's been in the top 250 at the end. She's broken into the top 200 a few times each month, but ends between #200-#210 normally. Now, she doesn't take many days off, in fact she hasn't had any days off from camming since July 29 (as she told me).

But, if you ever watch her, she's not doing a ton of topics for things. In fact, she's rarely nude in public. Sometimes (like her birthday when she does a bath show), but rarely. Most of the time, if she bothers to have a topic, it's just 50 for a bewb flash. She ends up making most of her money in groups and privates. So, she can be doing a lot in those, depending on the day (she can do 7-10 groups a day, on a busy day, and sometimes as many privates). Her groups can last between 10-20 mins, and her privates can go a while depending on the member. I've seen a near 2 hour one.

However, the only thing she complains to me about, even being pretty close to top 200 most months, is her camscore. 2666. She said she remembers when she could make as much as she did last pay period, and her camscore would be around 4k. But she's been hovering around that 2600-2700 mark for a while. She does do decently long shifts, averaging 5 hours a day according to her, so that might be affecting it (I have seen her do 8 hour shifts).

So, it just makes me wonder, if she were to do topics, would she make more or less? I know a lot of guys in the lounges actually really like her if someone links her in them. You'll see people saying how they always think she's hot, etc. So she has 'fans' out in the MFC world. But I think a lack of topics for nude/whatever keeps them at arms distance (read: the lounges).

But, if someone were to just watch her, when she's not in group or private, they'd hardly think that she was putting any effort in at all, besides what she is wearing. But, they'd also see, except for friends, she doesn't really get any tips in public.

But, I have other friends that do topics, etc, and have a higher camscore and don't break top 250 (as members we see ranks 250 and under in the menu of models)... so :scratch:

 

[zippypinhead]

So, it just makes me wonder, if she were to do topics, would she make more or less? I know a lot of guys in the lounges actually really like her if someone links her in them. You'll see people saying how they always think she's hot, etc. So she has 'fans' out in the MFC world. But I think a lack of topics for nude/whatever keeps them at arms distance (read: the lounges).

But, if someone were to just watch her, when she's not in group or private, they'd hardly think that she was putting any effort in at all, besides what she is wearing. But, they'd also see, except for friends, she doesn't really get any tips in public.

But, I have other friends that do topics, etc, and have a higher camscore and don't break top 250 (as members we see ranks 250 and under in the menu of models)... so :scratch:

Is she looking to break higher, though? I know several models who rely on the private/group scheme to make their money, and public chat is essentially just waiting in-between. They don't seem to mind it -- it works for them. One of the things about working that way, I've noticed, is that it's more time-intensive, and so it doesn't reflect well with the camscore. So, if she's making good money with privates, but her in-between time is enough to keep the camscore down, I'd say she probably shouldn't worry too much about camscores. The models who are relying on public shows are probably going to have more leeway to call a slow night short, and thus keep their score higher. It's two different ways of working, to be sure. One needs bodies in the room and tips flowing, while the other can be made worthwhile from a private session or two, even if those sessions happen with a couple of hours in-between.

However, I could be wrong, probably am, and will thus be corrected.

 

[RebeccaT]

This makes me smile when everyone tells us camscore doesn't matter yet they all go hell for leather to get their favourites in the top ten.

So which is it?

EDIT: Morella (heck, she's awesome!) just tweeted this: Ladies, I know it's hard, but don't focus on your camscore. It does not reflect your value or talent. Focus on your monetary goals.

So which is it?

 

[mynameisbob84]

This makes me smile when everyone tells us camscore doesn't matter yet they all go hell for leather to get their favourites in the top ten.

So which is it?

EDIT: Morella (heck, she's awesome!) just tweeted this: Ladies, I know it's hard, but don't focus on your camscore. It does not reflect your value or talent. Focus on your monetary goals.

So which is it?

I would guess they kinda go hand in hand. The higher the camscore, the more likely it is the model is making mega bucks, but I've seen models in the top 100 with fairly average camscores (meaning, I guess, that they'd been working insane shifts every day that month).

As for members saying that camscore doesn't matter and then tipping themselves into financial ruin just to get their favourite model into the top ten, I think it's important to not look at members as a collective. To most members, I don't think camscore is overly important. If a member likes a model, they like her for being her, and not for having a big number underneath her name (although the bigger that number is, the more likely it is that member will find that model in the first place).

Members who are fans of high ranking models will tip masses of tokens to get "their" model into the top ten because they know it's important to her and they want to see her make a lot of money and be happy.

I'm not the type of member who would go out of their way to tip a model extra just to see them break the top 10. While I genuinely like all the models whose rooms I frequent and want to see them happy, I wouldn't give much thought to them "only" making $39,000 that month instead of the $40,000 they wanted to make in order to crack the top ten (I'm plucking figures out my arse but you get the picture).

Conversely, there are members who seem more determined to get "their" model into the top ten than even the models themselves. I've seen members become (seemingly) genuinly upset and even angry and indignant when their favourite model "only" ranked second that month when they "deserved" the top spot. I don't think I'll ever live to understand that mentality. If a friend of mine who worked on commission earnt $50,000 in a month, I'd be pretty happy for them. That a colleague of their's might have made $50,001 that same month wouldn't really be any concern of mine. I certainly wouldn't get upset over it.

Anway, all of this rambling is to say that while some members care about camscore a great deal, I think most don't really give it much thought :twocents-02cents:

 

[RebeccaT]

(I'm plucking figures out my arse but you get the picture).

...and what a picture!

Thank you for your reply. The chances of making the top 500 is a pipe dream for me but hey ho! I once made it to #1761

 

[Kickaz]

Scamscore.....
One model with 4k camscore was top 20 last month. Another one in the 2k-3k range is constantly top 100. Also the first time I hit top 100 last year my camscore was under 4k.
It's all about the goals, the dedication and not equaling your self worth to where you are ranked in the page.
My theory: there's no easy money! Work hard and you will see results!

 

[UncleThursday]

Scamscore.....
One model with 4k camscore was top 20 last month. Another one in the 2k-3k range is constantly top 100. Also the first time I hit top 100 last year my camscore was under 4k.
It's all about the goals, the dedication and not equaling your self worth to where you are ranked in the page.
My theory: there's no easy money! Work hard and you will see results!

Yeah, I see what you're saying, as well as the other before you. And I pretty much agree. In her case, she makes enough to not only live off off, but rent the apt. she cams from.

She doesn't seem to be complaining to me (well, maybe more venting, its not like she thinks it's my fault or anything ) about how much she makes. She just thinks that if she is making enough each month to be higher in rank than models she knows have a better camscore than her, that she wants a better camscore. She feels self conscious about her camscore, I suppose.

 

[UncleThursday]

This makes me smile when everyone tells us camscore doesn't matter yet they all go hell for leather to get their favourites in the top ten.

So which is it?

EDIT: Morella (heck, she's awesome!) just tweeted this: Ladies, I know it's hard, but don't focus on your camscore. It does not reflect your value or talent. Focus on your monetary goals.

So which is it?

To say something on Morella... I have her in my list. I don't perv on her, though. She is a very attractive woman, no doubt, but I personally just like seeing her preview every now and then to see what cosplay she is doing... because she does her cosplay very well.

But, on the last day last month, I did tip her, just because I think it's awesome that someone with her, for lack of a better word, gimmick was ranked #2. Nothing outrageous, mind you. I maybe dropped a total of 100 tokens on her, so it's not like I kept her in that position. But maybe once an hour when I saw her smiling and being happy, I would just throw a 10 tokens tip her way with a little encouragement tip note. And she was always audible when she thanked me, so that helped. Even though I am sure she has no idea who I am.

Did she work hard for her spot? I think so. I don't know if she even took a day off all month. And I know that the last day was a 12+ hour marathon on her part. So props to her! :thumbleft: :handgestures-salute:

Anway, all of this rambling is to say that while some members care about camscore a great deal, I think most don't really give it much thought

Camscore isn't a huge issue to me. CuteHerminie would be one of my favs even if she dropped below 1k camscore. I have model friends with well below 1k camscores, all the way up to over 10k camscores. It's not the camscore I care about... it's if I find the model attractive (at the beginning) and then if I like her personality and enjoy talking to her... as well as perving on her.

 

[MFCenthusiast]

Yeah, watching the girls go for it last month was really exciting. It's refreshing to see a lot of girls with lower camscores really push this month. Saw Panzii too, she really went for it in terms of her ideas and creativity. I went in her room thinking I'd dislike her and was finding reasons to dislike her, but she really changed my perception of her within a couple minutes and I ended up coming back a lot to see what she would do next. Shes takes camming to another level with her underwater pool shows, her shadow lighting, her games that she made for her room. Same goes with Morella and her talent in makeup, comics, and cosplay. She really shows that girls who really bring their personalities and talents out can really bring something different and unique to MFC. I am super excited about the winners for August. Exciting and well deserved month for all those unique girls. Both those girls were online every day for hours.

 

[dafdsfdasf3]

Miss mfc takes a lot of dedication, long hours, luck and competitive character from both the model and the members.
The stress level is insanely high so I don't blame some models that take a whole month off after a top 20 month. I believe every top model in this case earns every token she makes. Sometimes it might seem like she's just getting paid to have fun on cam or wtv but looks are deceiving. Even if she didn't do any raffles, skype and stuff of that sort looking bubbly and happy everyday takes effort. You have to add the stress to maintain success on top of that and trying to make everyone happy.
Also tokens vary a lot by the month!!! some months aren't as high as you guys think... in fact the amount of tokens it takes is much much lower!

Either way I am very grateful that my fans believed in me, having me there two months in a row! I am not sure if i will ever get close to the top 20, or top 10 again but the ride was unbelievable!

Also most girls do really long shifts the last day of the month so that explains why most of them weren't on cam the first of next month.

lol. ya its real stressful sitting at your computer for a couple hours playing jenga while scamming lonely losers into thinking you get naked at the end of a goal like you do. i feel bad for the guys that actually give you money. oh and you should probly lose some weight

 

[JerryBoBerry]

I'm not going to reply to his post because that will just be more to delete after he's banned. But I wonder why fucking asshat losers have to publicly decry that they are such fucking asshat losers? Are they just sick of living in mommy's basement? Have they gotten tired of picking up poop all day on their dog walking job? Or are they just angry at the world because they never learned any social skills, or how to count.

 

[Kickaz]

I'm not going to reply to his post because that will just be more to delete after he's banned. But I wonder why fucking asshat losers have to publicly decry that they are such fucking asshat losers? Are they just sick of living in mommy's basement? Have they gotten tired of picking up poop all day on their dog walking job? Or are they just angry at the world because they never learned any social skills, or how to count.

Dude needs a hug! I almost feel bad for him.