MFC has corrupted me! Or, shown me who I really am.

[Deleted member 4846]

Since becoming a member on MFC I have been so turned on by some of the shenanigans that I've started doing some silly / risky / naughty things myself, and I don't mean just going to the kitchen in the middle of the night without any underpants on.

Recently I've taken up cycling on a regular basis, the places I frequent are usually fairly quiet so there's plenty of opportunity for the occasional naturist moment out in the woods (in theory someone could come along at any moment, they are all public trails and roads). I've also been slightly less than fully clothed around the office, which also has secluded spots or empty rooms but not entirely devoid of any other occupants.

Any other members let their inner perv out? Just me?? It's fun and risky, and doing it for myself just increases the enjoyment of watching sexy webcam models taking risks on cam in public places too.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Not to massively rain on your parade but what you're doing sounds a lot like flashing... I'm very glad you're finding something you enjoy and are opening yourself up to new experiences, but flashing is a pretty serious criminal offence, especially if you're a man. There's a reason for this. If you did get caught by someone, whether in your office on on a country rode you could cause real mental damage to the person. Put yourself in a woman's (or even another man's) position if she walked in on you accidentally in an area of the office rather undressed? Well you would probably be fired for sexual harassment and might end up listed as a sex offender, and she would be insanely freaked out. If you got caught outside you could potentially be seen by children. It's actually pretty threatening. Flashers do cause quite a lot of mental damage. I know what you're doing isn't quite flashing, more being an exhibitionist, but I would seriously reconsider the places you experiment in.

Try nature walks/nudist beaches where you can be in a safe environment where you're not going to cause any damage with your fetish.

Even though camgirls doing public shows could get caught and arrested as they are female there is much less of a threat. If people see a nude woman getting kinky on camera in public the police wouldn't be happy with her, but it'd be obvious she's doing it as a job and not because she's a danger to society. A man walking around alone on the other hand? I really doubt they would take it lightly. There is also the fact that camgirls will often make public shows look more public than they actually are.

Now maybe I totally got the wrong end of the stick here... if that's so then I apologise, if not please please be careful! Sexual experiences are fun but your boner and sexual thrills are not worth potentially messing someone else up for life and ruining your own life if someone catches you.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

Just make sure to ask if a model watches cams and tip the right amount for c2c instead of saying something stupid like "I'll help you get there BB". If you do this there shouldn't be too many problems involving camming sites at least. :lol:

 

[Deleted member 4846]

I am careful and I don't wave my boner around, it's more to do with a bit of cheeky exhibitionism to the world at large, not in places where there are lots of people (or anybody) around. In the office settings I am particularly cautious. I do take your points though, Isabella. I would not call it flashing as that's normally directed at someone purposefully so that they will see.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I am careful and I don't wave my boner around, it's more to do with a bit of cheeky exhibitionism to the world at large, not in places where there are lots of people (or anybody) around. In the office settings I am particularly cautious. I do take your points though, Isabella. I would not call it flashing as that's normally directed at someone purposefully so that they will see.

If there weren't the chance of getting caught it wouldn't be exciting to you. Whether or not if you're waving your boner around if you get caught it's a serious offence. If on one of these very public yet secluded trails a family comes across you, or a lone woman walking her dog, or even a bunch of teenagers, there you go, you're suddenly a threat. Whether they can see your cock/boner clearly or you're waving it around, if you're naked you are still flashing them inappropriately, as it is of sexual nature it would be taken very seriously. I know that if I came across you I would be terrified and it'd really mess me up for a while. You may not call it flashing, and no you're not deliberately flashing strangers your penis, but you are getting aroused by the idea of being caught with your penis out. I seriously recommend you keep it in your pants and arrange to go to events/places where you can release your inner exhibitionist without the risk of totally fucking up. Your little bit of cheeky exhibitionism may seem fun but it could mess someone else up a lot and could get you in a lot of trouble. Sex is not worth it.

I know everyone here is very blase about various fetishes, and I'm all for fetishes, I love the idea of outdoor sex (not so much to be caught but because I love the outdoors), I just think that even if the fetish is cool and sexy, it absolutely needs to be performed in an appropriate environment. There is no excuse for risking other peoples mentalities for your own sexual gratification. (even if that is not your intention)

 

[Red7227]

I know everyone here is very blase about various fetishes, and I'm all for fetishes, I love the idea of outdoor sex (not so much to be caught but because I love the outdoors), I just think that even if the fetish is cool and sexy, it absolutely needs to be performed in an appropriate environment. There is no excuse for risking other peoples mentalities for your own sexual gratification. (even if that is not your intention)

He will also get added to the sex offender register in most countries which will limit where he can live and his employment opportunities.

I've come across girls running around naked a few times and its nothing but cute, i would probably be fine with guys as well, but i cannot say for certain. MFC does distort one's world view severely, just remember that its you that has changed and not the world. It is still run by the same bunch of repressed douchbags that were running before you discovered MFC.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I did a little research on it last night, even in countries in europe that are very relaxed about public nudity if you are caught using public nudity for sexual gratification they take it really seriously and the person will be prosecuted.

What I think a lot of men forget, or at least have no personal experience about so really cannot know, is what it's like being a woman. If a man saw a naked girl/woman it'd be "oh, look at that!" even if she weren't attractive. I doubt it'd be threatening to them or even upsetting. Women pose as very little physical threat to men. Not only are we physically weaker, but although there are the odd few crazed psycho females the majority of women don't have very threatening natures (as in it's pretty much unheard of to find women lurking around intending on raping/harming men for their own pleasure). Men also don't have to see men as a major threat, although men sometimes do horrible things to eachother, and a man might find it creepy seeing another man, most men have never had to think about men as potential sexual threats.

Women on the other hand it's different. For thousands of years women have been oppressed and dominated by men. This means we automatically fear them. We cannot help it. As much as we can nurture it out of us there is still an instinct inside of us that would see a threatening situation with a man and freak out. Or walk around alone and the fear is that a man comes out and murders/rapes us. Chances of it happening most of the time are slim, but there's still a chance.
This is why if a woman comes across a guy naked/undressed, especially if she actually catches sight of you being hard then her automatic thought is going to be that she's in danger and that you're potentially going to rape her or someone else. It might seem really silly that most women would react so strongly when a man probably would just think "wow, that guy's a bit weird", but it's survival instinct. They've come across something that to them looks like a real threat. Some women would be less fussed by this sort of thing, but I know a few girls who've come across similar things and I know how much it's messed them up. Don't underestimate the power of fear.

Anyway, this has probably either given you a massive boner or made you go placid.... Sorry to be a bit of a downer, it just seems that you have found this fun new way to get aroused and haven't really thought through the possibly quite serious implications. There is a reason that even countries that are really relaxed with public nudity take this sort of thing really seriously and it's not because they're massive prudes.

 

[Deleted member 4846]

Well, I thank you Isabella for pointing out the other side of the coin. You are correct that I hadn't really thought I could be seen as a threat, one could say there wasn't really any thought gone into it at all (typical man, eh?

Now I feel awkward and want to hide in a hole, and bury this thread in a bottomless pit. Feel free to delete, forum mods.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Women on the other hand it's different. For thousands of years women have been oppressed and dominated by men.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I think we've read different history books.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/th ... ppression/

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Well, I thank you Isabella for pointing out the other side of the coin. You are correct that I hadn't really thought I could be seen as a threat, one could say there wasn't really any thought gone into it at all (typical man, eh?

Now I feel awkward and want to hide in a hole, and bury this thread in a bottomless pit. Feel free to delete, forum mods.

Don't feel embarrassed about your fetish, the good thing is you weren't intending on harming other people, and it's actually good that you hadn't thought it through completely and done it anyway.
I do think you should pursue it as you're enjoying it, just not in the office/in public places but in places where it's allowed.

There's a club in London called torture garden which is full of lots of debauchery, has a really good atmosphere, it's all fancy dress but you do get people who walk around naked/undressed, no one minds because it's all in the atmosphere. You know it's not threatening, people are just having a good time and enjoying themselves. As much as it might not seem as exciting as it's "allowed" trust me, it really is. There's also a room where everyone goes to have sex! There are plenty of clubs/places similar to this which you may want to look into. It's not actual nudity that's the issue, it's the threat it implies to passers by. As far as I see it whenever you do a sex act/fun act you should think it through and work out if you could end up harming anyone. If not then have all the fun times you want! If you could then either rethink it altogether or find a way around it.

I do think members need to keep in mind when they see public shows that they are often not what they seem. Yes sometimes they are and there are some very daring girls out there, but I reckon for the most part camgirls aren't seriously risking being registered as a sex offender just to put on a good show.

It's like they used to say on those tv shows when I was a kid "Don't try this at home!!!!"

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Women on the other hand it's different. For thousands of years women have been oppressed and dominated by men.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I think we've read different history books.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/th ... ppression/

Well obviously an article written by someone who admits at the beginning of the article to not being a historian and have only read a few history books changes everything!

Us stupid women, complaining about how we were looked after, fed and have men giving up seats for us! Our freedom and choices are surely a totally fair payment for such good treatment by men? I mean sure, some men totally used their power over us to harm us... but you know, some men didn't get allowed the vote! Which is totally the same as no women being given the vote. Totally the same.

And I do agree with the article, that no one should ever complain about any of their problems because there are people with worse problems out there! I mean how can all the women for centuries who were forced into marriages they didn't want at a young age complain when there were people somewhere else being sold into slavery? I mean those women were fed, clothed, fucked and were often allowed to stay at home to raise children. What more could they want?

Being a child from the late 20th century I really am dam unlucky, those women 100 years ago had it so easy!! I wish my parents had picked a man for me to marry and then all I'd have to do after that is bear children and look pretty. But I guess some of us just aren't that lucky...

 

[mynameisbob84]

Women on the other hand it's different. For thousands of years women have been oppressed and dominated by men.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I think we've read different history books.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/th ... ppression/

Well obviously an article written by someone who admits at the beginning of the article to not being a historian and have only read a few history books changes everything!

I think (and hope) Jerry was being flippant and not putting that article forth as proof that women haven't been oppressed in the past. The article might even be satirical, I'm not sure. I hope it is. In fact, I hope the entire site is. If there are men out there who really feel they need a website just for them ("compassion for boys and men") to make their voices heard over the din of those wacky feminist tirades ("Equality? Equal pay? Misrepresentation of women in media? Discrimination? Sexual harrassment? A fundamental grasp of modern history? Pffft. Fuck all that shit. We are men and we will not entertain the idea that our bitches might possibly feel a bit oppressed from time to time") , then I just don't feel as if there are enough facepalm gif.s to go around :?

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I think (and hope) Jerry was being flippant and not putting that article forth as proof that women haven't been oppressed in the past. The article might even be satirical, I'm not sure. I hope it is. In fact, I hope the entire site is.

I hope so too... but I'm hormonal and didn't find it amusing.

I also wouldn't be remotely surprised if it's true or there are websites out there who say similar things seriously. There are people out there who still adamantly try to deny the holocaust ever happened... even though it was all documented... and there were enormous amounts of witnesses... and the sites it happened still exist.... and the people who were involved actually admitted what had happened.... In fact, no one involved has ever tried to deny it, just seems to be some modern Nazi's who try and deny it for some reason.

Anyway, the point I was making was less about women not having the vote and more about the fact that even today women are constantly being raped/abused by men, something that has been going on seemingly since the dawn of time in pretty much every society. However "civilised" we are, and however "equal" we are politically this is still a really big threat.
(And by "constantly" I don't mean every woman is constantly being raped, I mean constantly there are women being raped)
It only takes a few men out of a hundred to do things like this to make it a big deal, this is why I ask the men who do care about women and don't want to hurt us to remember that not all men think the way you do and be sensitive that we can't tell you apart from the bad guys.

 

[LilyMarie]

If there are men out there who really feel they need a website just for them ("compassion for boys and men") to make their voices heard over the din of those wacky feminist tirades ("Equality? Equal pay? Misrepresentation of women in media? Discrimination? Sexual harrassment? A fundamental grasp of modern history? Pffft. Fuck all that shit. We are men and we will not entertain the idea that our bitches might possibly feel a bit oppressed from time to time") , then I just don't feel as if there are enough facepalm gif.s to go around :?

http://www.reddit.com/r/mensrights

r/MR is a subreddit consisting of both men and women who believe that there is serious discrimination against men inherent in western societies.

 

[mynameisbob84]

If there are men out there who really feel they need a website just for them ("compassion for boys and men") to make their voices heard over the din of those wacky feminist tirades ("Equality? Equal pay? Misrepresentation of women in media? Discrimination? Sexual harrassment? A fundamental grasp of modern history? Pffft. Fuck all that shit. We are men and we will not entertain the idea that our bitches might possibly feel a bit oppressed from time to time") , then I just don't feel as if there are enough facepalm gif.s to go around :?

http://www.reddit.com/r/mensrights

r/MR is a subreddit consisting of both men and women who believe that there is serious discrimination against men inherent in western societies.

Jebus. Who do these men think they're being discriminated against by? All those women who are put in charge of all the important decisions? Or... other men?

 

[Deleted member 4846]

I think we all agree it comes down to the fact that men are generally physically more powerful than women, and a strong man can easily overpower a typical woman to get their way if they so wished. I see how that fact could make a naked man seem threatening to a woman, particularly if she has children with her (like in the animal kingdom, a mother will attack anything that comes too close to her offspring).

There can never be true equality in every respect between the sexes while this difference in strength exists because there will always be some who take advantage of it. Men need to play the role the y chromosome has given them. So, I need to show some responsibility and not risk accidental threatening behaviour. As for the ladies, please continue to be beautiful and sexy. It would be a boring world if we were all the same!

 

[Red7227]

Anyway, the point I was making was less about women not having the vote and more about the fact that even today women are constantly being raped/abused by men, something that has been going on seemingly since the dawn of time in pretty much every society. However "civilised" we are, and however "equal" we are politically this is still a really big threat.
(And by "constantly" I don't mean every woman is constantly being raped, I mean constantly there are women being raped)
It only takes a few men out of a hundred to do things like this to make it a big deal, this is why I ask the men who do care about women and don't want to hurt us to remember that not all men think the way you do and be sensitive that we can't tell you apart from the bad guys.

Human men don't have peacock tails, build giant exotic nests, or sing and dance provocatively to attract girls, however they are bigger, stronger and faster.

Males are designed to beat dinner and each other to death while making every female they can catch pregnant. In the majority of ancient societies women were often little better than slaves and even in modern Victorian (Australian) law until about 30 years ago it was technically impossible for men to rape their wives because they were grouped with chattels and had become their property when they were married.

We are approaching social equality at the moment but it is still in the nature of a few people to act on their baser genetically encoded instincts and whine that they are not getting what they deserve from life.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Human men don't have peacock tails, build giant exotic nests, or sing and dance provocatively to attract girls, however they are bigger, stronger and faster.

You know... I was just thinking about this. Yes, on average men are bigger, stronger and faster than women, just like on average black men have bigger penis's than white men. The fact is though, that is an average, not all black men are bigger than white men, and the average is actually ridiculously close.

My entire life I have been physically stronger/as strong as boys and men. Yet my entire life I have been taught to avoid lifting heavy things so that men can do it. And when I do prove that I'm stronger I'm punished by the man acting upset because his pride has been hurt and older women looking disapproving.

I am perfectly capable of moving furniture, yet say when my aunt needs furniture to be moved, she has always asked my brother and cousins, even in times when I was stronger and more developed than they were. If I offer or try to do it everyone would get annoyed at me and look horrified. They'd tell me I cannot do it because I'm female and that I'll get in the way.

How many times do you have to be told you're not strong enough, that you're a victim, that men are always stronger than you, before you start believing it?

I'm sorry but I'm an active horse rider, I have done judo since I was a child and I'm a kick boxer. I may only stand at 5ft 6 but my bones are bigger and stronger than most men I know, why is it that I don't lift up heavy objects around men I'm perfectly capable of lifting? Why is it when I'm at the yard on my own I carry giant buckets of water and feed with very little complaint, yet around my boyfriend it suddenly seems exhausting holding a shopping bag?
I swear women are trained to believe we're weaker than we are. That we're less capable. I mean sure, my brother is far stronger than me, he's the male version of me, so yes, men are stronger, but that doesn't mean all men are stronger.

I wonder what the world would be like if girls weren't left out of sword fighting games, or told off for showing their strength as children, or taught to appease men by seeming weaker than they are, or taught to get away with being lazy because it appeases men. Women are taught to use weapons like tears, vulnerability and sexuality and avoid using physical strength because we're always told that we will lose. Well tears, vulnerability and sexuality are going to make the situation a hell of a lot worse if faced with a rapist/a murderer or someone other than a nice, normal dude. People say "don't fight back or it'll make it worse/they might kill you" I say fight back and don't think twice or regret it and show them how strong a woman can actually be. Block out the fear we are fed our whole lives. Women used to be taught we're not as intelligent as men, that we're incapable of doing certain things, and it definitely seemed that women believed it, maybe the strength thing is largely in our heads too.

 

[Red7227]

Human men don't have peacock tails, build giant exotic nests, or sing and dance provocatively to attract girls, however they are bigger, stronger and faster.

I wonder what the world would be like if girls weren't left out of sword fighting games, or told off for showing their strength as children, or taught to appease men by seeming weaker than they are, or taught to get away with being lazy because it appeases men. Women are taught to use weapons like tears, vulnerability and sexuality and avoid using physical strength because we're always told that we will lose. Well tears, vulnerability and sexuality are going to make the situation a hell of a lot worse if faced with a rapist/a murderer or someone other than a nice, normal dude. People say "don't fight back or it'll make it worse/they might kill you" I say fight back and don't think twice or regret it and show them how strong a woman can actually be. Block out the fear we are fed our whole lives. Women used to be taught we're not as intelligent as men, that we're incapable of doing certain things, and it definitely seemed that women believed it, maybe the strength thing is largely in our heads too.

Yep. One of the things I noticed back a few years ago when I had a TV, was the rate at which female basket ball players tore their cruciate ligaments was about 5 times higher than in men. One of the reasons suggested by a sports scientist was that most girls do not engage in the sort of continuous sporting activity that boys do when growing up, so that where they to take up sports at a later age, their bones and ligaments are not fully adapted to the loads they are under. I would hope that these days things have moved along enough that girls can do what they want at school and not have to confirm to stereotypes but who knows.

 

[Just Me]

Human men don't have peacock tails, build giant exotic nests, or sing and dance provocatively to attract girls

I have seen all of these done by men to attract girls. :lol: Granted, men do not in actual fact have peacock tails but they certainly use substitutes (cars, clothes, hairstyles). Exotic nests? Fancy apartments, homes and condos seem an appropriate stand in. Sing and dance? Musicians and entertainers.