Mila Milan - Busted ?

[Anonymous]

I'm old enough that the actions of the painfully stupid tend to amuse me to no end. And risking the death penalty to make online porn and have a little meth for lunch in a shithole that the law makes it a death sentence is almost too stupid a move to be real.

Mila is no young pup fresh off the boat who stumbled into the nasty world of crime, she's (from what read) been in this business for years. To say "I didn't know it was illegal" there is comical, that she thinks anyone will believe that.

She must be high. Really high.

The first child she pushed out should have had her re assessing her career, safety and future security. Not sending the kids to a nanny and then making web porn in a villa where you have to pay the cops not to beat you to death for chewing gum.

She's a moron. :roll:

Her poor kids. I weep for them, not her.

Yeah, we get it...you think it's funny and that she's a moron. Glad to hear her situation has given you a good laugh.....

And I tell you what...if one day she's ever able to rejoin us on this forum, please don't become a phony and start kissing her ass, talking about "Hey, welcome back! We've missed you!"

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Reality check, people. MilaMilan has been involved in porn since a very young age in Austria. A nagging drug habit and no real means to get money were her reasoning for doing porn back then. She then realized being a corteasan was the easiest way to make money and began her life as a prostitute. With her proceeds she moved to Thailand and was very well to do. I remember her 1st month on cams and her having a servant and somebody to make all her meals and do her day to day activities. NO model on the amateur level has had such a lavish lifestyle within her 1st week/month of being on cam. I can even recall her offering members her services via MFC for her to fly out and do what she does. I can even recall her falling in love/lust with one of her clients and it not working out. With the proceeds from camming and prostitution she sought after a life long dream of being a designer in which she was somewhat successful, but her nagging drug addiction and constant need for easy money brought her right back to the sex trade industry. I can recall more than one night when Mila was on cam and her eyes were completely glazed over and her nodding lightly and being generally unresponsive to her chat room. Things you don't find with normal weed and booze, but rather the side effects of powerful opiates. As time went on, so did her life, hence the twins and her relationship with their father. Her fall from Grace was long before the public became aware of her lifestyle. As for her defense that she didn't know what was legal/illegal in Thailand, that's a bunch of shit. She wrote a book on the world of camming and all its legal and illegal practices. "Nice try though, playing dumb." As for her kids, Thailand is very different on the way they govern drug addicts and the ability to take care of their children. But for all of you who think field drug tests are a fluke, they're not. They very high grade testing devices that can tell what's in your system with just a few squirts of piss(squirt show@3000 tokens). They've been tailored to detect particular drugs and cost about $8 per test. This being said a mother who cares about her kids and family does not do drugs and involve herself in the sex trade industry. But a drug addict with kids, does. All in all, this is no surprise. I can't say I foresaw this coming, but I definitely knew that it could happen, just like it has.

People, paragraphs are your friends!

 

[JoleneBrody]

I'm old enough that the actions of the painfully stupid tend to amuse me to no end. And risking the death penalty to make online porn and have a little meth for lunch in a shithole that the law makes it a death sentence is almost too stupid a move to be real.

Mila is no young pup fresh off the boat who stumbled into the nasty world of crime, she's (from what read) been in this business for years. To say "I didn't know it was illegal" there is comical, that she thinks anyone will believe that.

She must be high. Really high.

The first child she pushed out should have had her re assessing her career, safety and future security. Not sending the kids to a nanny and then making web porn in a villa where you have to pay the cops not to beat you to death for chewing gum.

She's a moron. :roll:

Her poor kids. I weep for them, not her.

Yeah, we get it...you think it's funny and that she's a moron. Glad to hear her situation has given you a good laugh.....

And I tell you what...if one day she's ever able to rejoin us on this forum, please don't become a phony and start kissing her ass, talking about "Hey, welcome back! We've missed you!"

I'm really not interested in getting involved in this discussion but I feel a need to correct you here... or at least clarify.
Seems I recall Mila's last return being met with rolling eyes and aggravation from most all well in the know peeps... I seem to have missed this phony welcome party you keep mentioning.

Hope Mila is well and all of this puts her in the direction of better and healthier things.

 

[Anonymous]

and I'm not gossiping OR finding this situation funny at all

I know, Ash, because that's not the type of person you are. Thank you for being one of the mature people involved in this discussion.

 

[Anonymous]

II feel a need to correct you here... or at least clarify.
Seems I recall Mila's last return being met with rolling eyes and aggravation from most all well in the know peeps... I seem to have missed this phony welcome party you keep mentioning.

No clarification is needed because I know what I read. There were a lot of posts welcoming her back, thanking her posts, so it seemed like all had been forgotten.

 

[Paulie Walnuts]

Yeah, we get it...you think it's funny and that she's a moron. Glad to hear her situation has given you a good laugh.....

And I tell you what...if one day she's ever able to rejoin us on this forum, please don't become a phony and start kissing her ass, talking about "Hey, welcome back! We've missed you!"

I said it amuses me, I didn't say I got a laugh out of it. Amusement mixed with disgust actually.

No I'll not be one of those suck ups, trust me. I have no need to suck up to people like that.

I havent seen any evidence here that Mila mistreats or neglects her children.

Jessi, this entire episode I call child abuse/neglect. The sex trade I can accept, the putting yourself as a mother in direct danger daily of being jailed for life or executed for.... internet porn?

:snooty: If that's not gross negligence I dunno what is.

 

[Jessi]

I havent seen any evidence here that Mila mistreats or neglects her children.

Jessi, this entire episode I call child abuse/neglect. The sex trade I can accept, the putting yourself as a mother in direct danger daily of being jailed for life or executed for.... internet porn?

:snooty: If that's not gross negligence I dunno what is.

I can kind of agree with that. But my response was more geared toward someone else's statement that being a sexworker meant she didnt care about her kids. She probably cares about them very much, but she's obviously pretty misguided, and from her behaviour not totally balanced individual. I'm not excusing her actions, and frankly as a camgirl she's really embarrassed me. I think she's probably delusional about how she's tried to provide for them. I dont think she has ill will toward her children
I'm going to leave this thread now :handgestures-salute: I dont want to contribute to anymore speculation about a subject that has nothing to do with me

 

[Whisperly]

Let's say (heaven forbid) the worst of the worst happens - then what will you all be saying? "Law is LAW - she clearly deserved it", "I saw her say this and I hate her so IDK LOL!". And then when I again jump in to question whether that should be here or not, then people will again suddenly adopt this hyper-sensitive conscience and moral awareness - because you can twist my words in such a way to make it look like I am suddenly ordering Amber about or some nonsense? SMH. Wow.

There have been incredibly cruel things written about Mila in this thread that have been defended as mere opinion, and I get a slap on the wrist for my opinion that surely moderation should filter out such blatant and cruel hate-speak? I actually find that creepy. But, after this thread has been absolutely littered with incredibly cruel comments and jokes, I shouldn't be surprised.

Why should this thread not exist (in my opinion)? Because this is NOT a civil discussion. This is not just mere "opinion" is it? This is gossip, slander, disgusting jokes, and the extremely bitter desire of a few people to get their story out about how much they hate Mila for their own personal reasons. People are jumping on this story to use it as a chance to vent their angst about her.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Let's say (heaven forbid) the worst of the worst happens - then what will you all be saying? "Law is LAW - she clearly deserved it", "I saw her say this and I hate her so IDK LOL!". And then when I again jump in to question whether that should be here or not, then people will again suddenly adopt this hyper-sensitive conscience and moral awareness - because you can twist my words in such a way to make it look like I am suddenly ordering Amber about or some nonsense? SMH. Wow.

There have been incredibly cruel things written about Mila in this thread that have been defended as mere opinion, and I get a slap on the wrist for my opinion that surely moderation should filter out such blatant and cruel hate-speak? I actually find that creepy. But, after this thread has been absolutely littered with incredibly cruel comments and jokes, I shouldn't be surprised.

Why should this thread not exist (in my opinion)? Because this is NOT a civil discussion. This is not just mere "opinion" is it? This is gossip, slander, disgusting jokes, and the extremely bitter desire of a few people to get their story out about how much they hate Mila for their own personal reasons. People are jumping on this story to use it as a chance to vent their angst about her.

So you're saying that due to a small handful of posts (out of 9 pages) that are "hateful" and "cruel", the discussion shouldn't be allowed to continue? I would argue that the majority of opinions stated in this thread (opinions that have often sat at opposite ends of the spectrum) have been communicated intelligently and respectfully.

You're free to disagree with that and you're free to express your disagreement. Just as other members are free to express opinions that you personally may find to be little more than "cruel hate-speak". Or at least they are until Amber tells them they can't 'cos, it's her forum and stuff.

 

[JickyJuly]

You are a piece of shit rolled up in some gum stuck on the bottom of a used Goodwill shoe, dude

You're certainly entitled to your opinion angry lady.

If you can look at a situation that you know has left a pair of babies and a child floating around in Thailand without their mother and call it entertainment, you are in fact a piece of shit. Fact. It looks like you'll not be lonely on the shit pile anyway. I'm not condoning Mila's actions. Obviously, it's foolish at best to cam where you know it's illegal. To do so while you have dependents is selfish, egotistical and greedy- BUT there's nothing entertaining about a situation that leaves 3 week old babies alone in the world. It's sad. Maybe that sadness is Mila's own fault, but that doesn't make anything more "entertaining".

 

[Whisperly]

So you're saying that due to a small handful of posts (out of 9 pages) that are "hateful" and "cruel", the discussion shouldn't be allowed to continue?

No. There are a million ways to speak about this without divulging into cheap jokes, cheap shots, hateful remarks, and "life stories" about how apparently fucked up other people think she is. But, because those posts have been left to fester, and this discussion has since been jumped on by many as the best vehicle for those who dislike her to "say their part" about her flaws - for whatever reason - then I'd say that if ever there was an orgy of opportunism, it'd be this thread.

 

[mynameisbob84]

So you're saying that due to a small handful of posts (out of 9 pages) that are "hateful" and "cruel", the discussion shouldn't be allowed to continue?

No. There are a million ways to speak about this without divulging into cheap jokes, cheap shots, hateful remarks, and "life stories" about how apparently fucked up other people think she is. But, because those posts have been left to fester, and this discussion has since been jumped on by many as the best vehicle for those who dislike her to "say their part" about her flaws - for whatever reason - then I'd say that if ever there was an orgy of opportunism, it'd be this thread.

If this thread has become an orgy of opportunism, it's not because a few unsavoury comments went uncensored, it's because there are people out there who - for whatever reasons - don't like Mila. The posts with an anti-Mila bent (whether you agree with them or not) don't exist because of this thread. This thread has become what it is (and I still maintain that with few exceptions, this has been a civil discussion) because not everyone is a Mila fan :twocents-02cents:

 

[MemberEd]

I don't know Mila. I was not a fan. I'm just curious, did Mila watch member cams? I don't want to wish misfortune on anyone but I can't help but think. How sweet it would be, for Mila, if she found out any of the guys here calling her "stupid" also found themselves being charged with making porn, because they were exposing themselves on cam?

 

[Whisperly]

If this thread has become an orgy of opportunism, it's not because a few unsavoury comments went uncensored, it's because there are people out there who - for whatever reasons - don't like Mila. The posts with an anti-Mila bent (whether you agree with them or not) don't exist because of this thread. This thread has become what it is (and I still maintain that with few exceptions, this has been a civil discussion) because not everyone is a Mila fan :twocents-02cents:

I'm not a Mila fan.

I don't know her; I've never seen her shows; I've no real idea of who she is, what she does, what she's about; and I am totally and completely open to the possibility that I may only not her like her shows, but not take kindly to her personal business, whatever it may be. Fuck, I might even dislike her just as much as the people who are busting nuts over this story. On the other hand, I might absolutely love her and all she does. Fan status on Mila isn't the issue here.

I don't have a problem with people who don't like her, for whatever reason, or just aren't fans. None of my business. People have the right to feel and to think whatever they wish, about whomever they wish. I do take issue with people jumping all over a story on a public forum because they have uncontainable hate-filled balls waiting to bust their disgusting, bitter loads over someone they don't know but want to spread slander and bs about.

So yeah - I'm not a Mila fan. I'm a fan of being able to talk about things like this in a civil manner without degenerating into complete low-life hateful bollocks, big tales, cheap shots, etc, etc.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Just a point of reason in these posts. Let's not forget that the only information we have so far is what the police have put out there in a propaganda style press conference designed to further [most likely] a political agenda.

No one knows what the future may bring. The entire case may be thrown out, she may be found not guilty, guilty but deported or jail time. We don't know. And in my personal opinion I have never known a police officer to actually tell the truth. They are there for the sole purpose of collecting evidence to arrest you and get you convicted. In the U.S. they have absolutely no obligation to collect ANY piece of evidence that will prove you completely innocent even if it is laying right in front of them. They can legally ignore it to further their agenda.

So I think I'll wait to see what a trial brings before I convict her to 20 years in jail and her kids get thrown into the public system and all the other fabrications of woe being slung around here. We don't know what will happen.

 

[mynameisbob84]

So yeah - I'm not a Mila fan. I'm a fan of being able to talk about things like this in a civil manner without degenerating into complete low-life hateful bollocks, big tales, cheap shots, etc, etc.

As am I. And I still belive that for the most part, this discussion has been civil. While there may have been some hateful bollocks being espoused throughout the course of this thread, I just can't get behind calls for censorship. Apart from anything else, what one person deems a "cheap shot", another might view as a perfectly valid opinion.

This is clearly a divisive issue and it's going to promote heated debate. As with any heated debate, there's bound to be people saying things that other folk are going to deem distasteful. It's the internet. It happens. And while a moderator trawling through threads like these, deleting any comment that might be considered inflammatory is an option, it ultimately creates an atmosphere where people feel as if they're not free to express their opinons.

And one of the great things about this forum is that people are free to express their opinons (at least, I've always felt that way posting here). If you see a post you disagree with on an ethical level, you're free to respond to it. But I don't think it's reasonable to expect that all such posts are deleted by a moderator just in case somebody somewhere is offended by them (and obviously there are limits to that - if someone's posting child porn or something, it should be deleted as soon as possible for example - but I don't think anything posted in this thread has pushed that limit yet).

 

[waogo]

Just a point of reason in these posts. Let's not forget that the only information we have so far is what the police have put out there in a propaganda style press conference designed to further [most likely] a political agenda.

N one knows what the future may bring. The entire case may be thrown out, she may be found not guilty, guilty but deported or jail time. We don't know. And in my personal opinion I have never known a police officer to actually tell the truth. They are there for the sole purpose of collecting evidence to arrest you and get you convicted. In the U.S. they have absolutely no obligation to collect ANY piece of evidence that will prove you completely innocent even if it is laying right in front of them. They can legally ignore it to further their agenda.

So I think I'll wait to see what a trial brings before I convict her to 20 years in jail and her kids get thrown into the public system and all the other fabrications of woe being slung around here. We don't know what will happen.

I am pretty sure "ignoring evidence" is, in fact, not legal at all in the US, it has to be presented, either way, but the WAY it is presented is up to the lawyers, not the cops. Assuming it was glaringly obvious, cause, you know, cops are people, too. Not everyone is Sherlock Holmes, who notices everything.

Anyway, this thread is getting silly, with calls for censorship of differing opinions, because someine doesn't like thosr opinions.

 

[Whisperly]

Anyway, this thread is getting silly, with calls for censorship of differing opinions, because someine doesn't like thosr opinions.

Oh yeah, and if I started debasing you as much as Mila has been debased in this thread, would you be all for "differing opinions" then? Or would you be much more liable to retaliate in some way - because I was addressing you in a hateful, aggressive manner because I wasn't a fan of yours? As I said before, this isn't just "opinions", is it? People have been fucking vile in this thread.

Ahh, the different varieties of the most appalling shit you can attempt to shine by simply saying: "it's just my opinion"...

 

[BMania]

I won't comment on whether or not Mila did something bad, good, or otherwise. BUT, she made accusations about others, and that is what others are doing to her. Is is fair game? I don't know.

 

[Whisperly]

And again, there's bs here that isn't even just being presented as opinion: there are people claiming to know personal details of her private life that they are spreading around like it's nothing... it's fun? It passes time? Like Mila is a fictional character? Like she may as well be because she's in the news so who cares? Or even who cares because they just hate her so.. free range? Like I genuinely don't get why there's such little understanding of how fucked up this is?

 

[ScarletRaven]

My thoughts and prayers go out to all of you who are so perfect and able to judge other human beings so harshly. All I can say to you is...peace be with you.

Good luck my friend Mila, I will always be here for you to support you as you were for me.

 

[UncleThursday]

I'm old enough that the actions of the painfully stupid tend to amuse me to no end. And risking the death penalty to make online porn and have a little meth for lunch in a shithole that the law makes it a death sentence is almost too stupid a move to be real.

Mila is no young pup fresh off the boat who stumbled into the nasty world of crime, she's (from what read) been in this business for years. To say "I didn't know it was illegal" there is comical, that she thinks anyone will believe that.

She must be high. Really high.

The first child she pushed out should have had her re assessing her career, safety and future security. Not sending the kids to a nanny and then making web porn in a villa where you have to pay the cops not to beat you to death for chewing gum.

She's a moron. :roll:

Her poor kids. I weep for them, not her.

I think it's pretty obvious why she stayed in Thailand, a country where she could be jailed for the internet porn and potentially put to death for the alleged drug charges. Thailand is one of the cheapest places to live.

Like you said, she's no young first timer. She's been in the adult business in some form or another since her late teens. People have shown old remarks form her saying she knew it was illegal in Thailand, yet she still did it. Because she could afford to rent a large estate on her earnings, have servants, etc. That's kind of hard to do in many places in the world, even if one is making $50K+ a month.

Another big mistake was actually keeping her money in Thailand, where the Thai government could freeze her assets. She should have held most of it offshore, maybe in a Swiss bank or something like that, and only kept enough for expenses in Thai banks.

She probably figured she'd never be arrested, or if she was, she could bribe her way out of it. Looks like she lost both gambles.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

If you can look at a situation that you know has left a pair of babies and a child floating around in Thailand without their mother and call it entertainment, you are in fact a piece of shit. Fact.

I don't think anybody finds that to be entertaining. I would like to hope we all feel the same for the kids involved. You can go ahead and stay furious and insult me if it somehow makes you feel better tho.

 

[zippypinhead]

After spending ten minutes in the MFC Premium Lounge, I'd say that the conversation here has actually been pretty measured and respectful.

:shock:

I think I need a drink....

 

[CamelNut]

People, paragraphs are your friends![/quote]
Don't be a homo because you're used to read and writing at an "MFC" grade level. I'm sorry your sentenced consist of "omg ur so hot bb" there were just around 300 words on that post, I guess you've never made your way through a university level textbook?

 

[RedHerby]

I think it's Mila own fault and she did screw up.

I wish that if I ever screw up my life like this I have friends like ScarletRaven, Whisperly, yummybrownfox

 

[Jupiter551]

And again, there's bs here that isn't even just being presented as opinion: there are people claiming to know personal details of her private life that they are spreading around like it's nothing... it's fun? It passes time? Like Mila is a fictional character? Like she may as well be because she's in the news so who cares? Or even who cares because they just hate her so.. free range? Like I genuinely don't get why there's such little understanding of how fucked up this is?

Mila IS a fictional character - they said her real name in those articles. I don't wish her any harm, and it's an unfair justice system, but I won't deny that it IS interesting. I'm still waiting on what you plan to do to make the sovereign country of Thailand change its ways. Will you be picketing the Thai Embassy?

I don't know why Mila chose to set up her 'empire' in a country with a huge sex-trafficking and tourism trade, and correspondingly harsh punishments for sex work, but I expect the favourable exchange rate and low pay for employees combined with a steady supply of eligible girls would at least be SOME motivating factor to a self-described entrepreneur.

Just before this episode I noticed on her profile page she had been trawling for investors...I hope they didn't knowingly invest in her studio or other things that can be traced back to 'crimes'.

There are lots of things we haven't heard, and possible reasons for things but all we really know is she committed a crime in the country she chooses (remember she has dual citizenship right?) to live in.

No one forced her, she knew very well what the deal was with camming, and so did her associates. It sucks but I also see it as colossally arrogant to somehow suggest that as soon as a westerner known to this board breaks a law that country should change its laws. No - just as Thai citizens in foreign countries are expected to obey local law so are we.

My thoughts for her children, I hope a grandparent or something can take care of them. I think I'm the last person who would be judgemental but I ALSO think that it appears to be a fairly dodgy environment to raise kids in.

I'm not saying that because she does adult work either, I'm saying it because she works from home, works with various adults at her home (and some may also live there), films gangbang scenes, and apparently someone in there - if drug testing reports are true, her - has taken meth recently and 3g (which is a highish amount for personal use to have at any one time) of it was found by police. You may say police are lying, and you might be right, but at this point there's no evidence to suggest the police are lying and if we give them the presumption of innocence....yeah. I wouldn't want my child growing up in that environment.

 

[Jupiter551]

Don't be a homo because you're used to read and writing at an "MFC" grade level. I'm sorry your sentenced consist of "omg ur so hot bb" there were just around 300 words on that post, I guess you've never made your way through a university level textbook?

no I fear you misunderstand; paragraphs are useful for readers to quickly re-read salient points, and to attempt to organise even a rambling and illogical argument like yours into an intelligible fashion :thumbleft:

 

[CamelNut]

Some people are being way too judgmental here and going over the board..

What about some respect? or whatever happened to "If you don't have anything good to say, keep it to yourself"

your thought process is old school. in today's society if you don't have anything nice to say, get a twitter account. it's not just here, it's the entire world from military presence in n. korea in the public media to the lonely forum discussing who's going to control your band of warriors when your WOW leader gets married and goes off to live his life. Best thing to do if you don't want to be involved is delete your acct here and go on with your life. Cuz people will always discuss, argue, negotiate, with or without you around.

 

[Jupiter551]

...to the lonely forum discussing who's going to control your band of warriors when your WOW leader gets married and goes off to live his life.[/color]

thanked cos that bit was worth a laugh :lol: