Olivia4naked

[duncedoto]

She is definitely acting though and I guess people want to buy into her act. It's an act thats been carefully refined over the months to manipulate the most money from members.

I'm curious about that thought.

I see it a lot, this idea of camgirls as ingenious pickpockets who startle you with their tits, then empty your wallet. And I don't doubt that some camgirls can be manipulative, just as some members can be manipulative. But when I think of manipulation, I think of someone who uses deception to shape someone else's behavior, and, as far as I can tell, there's nothing deceptive about her acting, particularly when it's full-on commedia dell'arte pantomime. So, unless I'm missing something, calling her performance "an act" is sort of like yelling at a mime for not really being mute.

Is it because you feel like the "real" Olivia is someone who takes a more conventional approach to camming, so by rethinking her whole approach she's now being fake? Is it because she's Romanian? Do you just hate mimes? Is it like when you're totally into a band, but then they blow up and sign to a new label and you're like, fucking sell-outs?

Because based on your post, it sounds like you just can't fathom how she could be financially successful unless she's engaged in some kind of mime/camgirl trickery.

I agree with what you on that last line. I just can't fathom how she can be that successful unless theres some kind of trickery or unfair play going on. But the real subject matter is not the model but the members. I actually know pretty much how she got her success but what I can't understand is the behavioral patterns of members that can support this level of success.

Also I don't understand some people are calling out all this Romanian bashing when I did so no such thing. Earlier in the thread there had been speculation about where she was actually from and all I did was clear up the fact. I did emphasis she was Romanian because she made it a point to hide it. It's a smart move on her part. No matter how she runs her room, revealing that she is Romanian would only hurt her because of whatever connotations come with being labeled Romanian on MFC. Whether I believe these labels and stereotypes or has no impact on my opinions about her.

Any resentment I may have is not directed entirely towards Olivia but rather ultra-successful models as a whole, but more towards the members who allow them to maintain their success. I can't fault the models for taking advantage of their positions. But it's still a disgusting situation if you take a step back and think about it objectively.
Like someone above me stated, the ultra big tippers are there more for their own egos than for the model. Consider this: Olivia can put up a topic "5k until Shame", which essentially means once topic is reached, she puts her stuff animal on cam and goes chill out for a half hour or so. She can use that pretty much everyday and not worry about it not being met, and thats on top of anything else she wanted to do that day. Consider topics like "32 1k nukes until #1". It's not just her who has topics like this but Olivia can routinely get these done. Really they are all the same in the sense that some ultra popular models can get tokens for essentially just showing up. It's almost free money. Don't get me wrong, they worked hard to put themselves in this rare position but it's still sick how easy the money can be once you get there.

Yes there is an element of the "indie band gains superstardom and sells out" effect going on here. I can't deny I feel that way since I did watch her rise to fame. Doesn't change the fact that she's taking advantage (hey who wouldnt?) as much as she can. In the end, its really the members that allow it to happen. They are giving away tokens for free in the traditional MFC sense. But the game has changed. Oh well, it's not my money. I'm sure these guys are getting something out of it.

 

[Nordling]

Yeah, they're having a good time. Not sure why that bugs you. Is it a crime to support success? "everyone loves a winner."

Also, if you're correct, and she wants to hide her actual location (allegedly Romania), why are you revealing it?

 

[UncleThursday]

Question: How does she manage to have a US phone number for her Radio Shows when she lives in Romania?

Skype, I would assume. You can use it for things like that using SkypeIn on the service.

 

[AnaVictoriaXO]

I just can't fathom how she can be that successful unless theres some kind of trickery or unfair play going on.

Because she isnt your cup of tea? Because you dont particularly care for the shows she does, so there must be something unfair going on?

This reminds me of when someone says "How can that beautiful woman be with that ugly, older man? She must be just using him for money!"

Just because you dont personally like her doesn't mean hundreds of other guys dont genuinely like her.

Any resentment I may have is not directed entirely towards Olivia but rather ultra-successful models as a whole, but more towards the members who allow them to maintain their success. I can't fault the models for taking advantage of their positions. But it's still a disgusting situation if you take a step back and think about it objectively.

I dont consider it as "taking advantage". These men are willingly giving models tokens, not being forced to. Of course its one thing if a model is giving false hope to meet one day, pretending to have feelings she doesn't really have for members..etc but I dont think this is the case with the majority of top earners.

And how is it disgusting? Again, no one is being forced to tip models, they do it on their own accord, with their money and both parties are benefiting (everyone has their reasons for tipping, them wanting to tip kind of shows that they like it.)

Don't get me wrong, they worked hard to put themselves in this rare position but it's still sick how easy the money can be once you get there.

Sick? Really? Who cares, good for them!!!!!

 

[UncleThursday]

Anyways, anyone who has been in her room long enough and took the time to analyze everything objectively would see that she has been playing everyone. Well thats a bit harsh as I think most of her viewers see whats going on but play along anyway. I do think she a kind person but most of what is seen on screen is a facade, just a role she plays that earns her the most money. Everything she has done for the last year has been a calculated play to maximize profits. And kudos to her. She had the combination of business acumen, technical savvy, and sex appeal to bring something to MFC that had never been done before. But lets be frank. When she seems MFC, she sees a bunch of suckers and a bunch of money. And she sure knows how to get that money.

That's how all cam models work, though. They put on a cam persona to try and maximize earnings. In some cases their cam persona might be very close to their actual offline personality, but make no mistake, the models know how they have to act to maximize earnings. And that's how they're going to portray themselves on cam.

It doesn't mean they're going to be a complete 180 off cam, but it does mean they know they have to act cheery, smile more, maybe laugh at things they might not find funny, etc. in order to maximize earnings. Caveat: there are some models who make a lot by putting on a much more harsh, bitchy persona, because that's what works for them; and other models who try to pull the crying on cam to get sympathy tips-- but again, those are their cam personas.

EDIT: as an example, I know a few models who are very bubbly and sweet while on cam, because that's what works in public for them. Then when they go private, they turn into some of the dirtiest girls on the planet (I was super shocked when I went group with one sweet girl the first time, and they very first words out of her mouth were 'I want cocks on cam, now!' as an example). But, that plays into many guys' fantasies about that sweet, down to earth, hot girl next door who ends up being a mad woman in bed once you have her alone. Which is more their true personality? Who knows. But that's how it works in camland. The models gotta do what they gotta do to earn the money, and they quickly learn what the members will pay for in public and in private.

 

[goneDude1]

When I used the term " Act " I meant her persona not her scripted " Shows " just to clarify that.

@ Camstory You asked for thoughts on olivia4naked when you started this thread.
Don't expect everyone to love her and sing her praise. There are always 2 sides to a coin.
Those that have posted their views in a critical manner have done so in a polite and non aggressive way.

My last sentence was what we call English humour and I'm sorry you did not understand my light humoured jest. Nothing was directed at you. As to paraphrasing please enlighten me as that was not my intention and I'm keen to understand how i managed this.

Personally I don't give a monkeys what she doe's on MFC, she's a model like all the others and is there to make tokens, plain and simple.
Her room is her room and she is free to whatever she wants.
Even if she wants to publicly make statements like " how can a stupid romanian bitch, can get 300 309 tokens, we will see... at the end of the month where that bitch stands " that's her call too.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Any resentment I may have is not directed entirely towards Olivia but rather ultra-successful models as a whole, but more towards the members who allow them to maintain their success. I can't fault the models for taking advantage of their positions. But it's still a disgusting situation if you take a step back and think about it objectively.
Like someone above me stated, the ultra big tippers are there more for their own egos than for the model. Consider this: Olivia can put up a topic "5k until Shame", which essentially means once topic is reached, she puts her stuff animal on cam and goes chill out for a half hour or so. She can use that pretty much everyday and not worry about it not being met, and thats on top of anything else she wanted to do that day. Consider topics like "32 1k nukes until #1". It's not just her who has topics like this but Olivia can routinely get these done. Really they are all the same in the sense that some ultra popular models can get tokens for essentially just showing up. It's almost free money. Don't get me wrong, they worked hard to put themselves in this rare position but it's still sick how easy the money can be once you get there.

It's not sick; it's commerce.

It's like anything that involves a lot of money being spent/made. Professional athletes get paid millions to play sports once a week. Sure, some might make the argument that these people being paid millions of dollars per annum while nurses working 50 hours a week are barely making enough to make ends meet is "sick" but that's how commerce works.

While I personally don't see the point of contributing to a 5000 token countdown so I can stare at a cuddly toy for half an hour; there are enough guys out there who are seemingly more than happy to do just that. They're not being manipulated or tricked. They're being presented with a service (a bizarre service admittedly, but a service nonetheless) and they're choosing to take advantage of it. The more people who willingly choose to partake in this, the more money Olivia makes.

I don't see why it would or should be any other way. Yes, ultimately it's a woman being paid more money in a few minutes than what some people make in a week for leaving a cuddly toy in front of a camera and then chilling out off cam for half an hour; but it's no more "sick" than a musician making millions in royalties on a song that took them an hour to write, or an inventor making billions from a product it took them a day to invent.

 

[Swirl]

Any resentment I may have is not directed entirely towards Olivia but rather ultra-successful models as a whole, but more towards the members who allow them to maintain their success. I can't fault the models for taking advantage of their positions. But it's still a disgusting situation if you take a step back and think about it objectively.

Disgusting situation?

Just admit you are jealous instead of trying to convince everyone else that there is something disgusting about what she is doing.

 

[SoTxBob]

Admittedly a different twist altogether but our esteemed 'co-forumer' (if that is even a word) 'Duncedodo' is beginning to sound somewhat parallel to the idiot bean counters found in so many rooms...
"I missed it. What'd he tip?
Wow! She just made $$$$$ (and gets the total wrong by a mile).
Hey! You just made $$$ show something.
You guys are stupid for tipping her.
Its a scam, save your money.
For what you just tipped her, I can buy real pussy to fuck.
You should be using your $$ to save the children/famine/poor in ABCD instead of wasting it here" .... et al, ad nauseum....

Point being, if some behavior is so distasteful or so confusing, move the fuck on...
Dont waste the effort of bitching about things you have no influence over. People with means will spend happily as they choose, no matter the venue.
(How about some football tickets for $3000./7000.00 on avg or a car that costs $250K+? Thats absurdity as well.)
Seems pretty common sense to me to not sweat other peoples money no matter how little or how much you make.


damn, that got long... :whistle:

 

[Anonymous]

Threads like these (that are all about ONE model) make me a little uncomfortable, because there's always gonna be someone posting "Well, I don't think she's that pretty" and blah, blah, blah. I sure am glad she isn't on this forum reading some of this crap. And I'm not gonna say any names, but it's obvious to me and a few others that one of the posters in here is ONLY on this forum to whine about Olivia.....

I guess it could be flattering for a model to be making so much money that people are all up in her shit and won't stop whining.....

Let the girl do her thing and be happy for her success. Damn.....

 

[emptiedglass]

Threads like these (that are all about ONE model) make me a little uncomfortable, because there's always gonna be someone posting "Well, I don't think she's that pretty" and blah, blah, blah. I sure am glad she isn't on this forum reading some of this crap. And I'm not gonna say any names, but it's obvious to me and a few others that one of the posters in here is ONLY on this forum to whine about Olivia.....

I'm sure she must be aware of this forum. Even if she doesn't have a model account, I'd be quite surprised if she weren't reading this thread. :twocents-02cents:

 

[mynameisbob84]

damn, that got long... :whistle:

That's what she said

 

[Anonymous]

I'm sure she must be aware of this forum. Even if she doesn't have a model account, I'd be quite surprised if she weren't reading this thread. :twocents-02cents:

Yeah, and if she doesn't read the forum, I wonder if she's got knuckleheads going into her chatroom blurting out "OOH, THEY TALKIN BOUT CHU ON THAT AMBERCUTIE FORUM!" People kill me sometimes...lol.

I don't even know anything about Olivia, but I bet if she's reading some of these posts, she's shaking her head thinking Bitch, please (well, maybe not THAT phrase, but you get the idea...) while she counts up all that money.

 

[goneDude1]

@ brown fox

The op wanted comments/thoughts about her whats wrong with that ? He's getting what he asked.

It's clear to me and few other posters here, that some are clearly here just to sing her praise :twocents-02cents:

 

[NoelleBright]

@ brown fox

The op wanted comments/thoughts about her whats wrong with that ? He's getting what he asked.

It's clear to me and few other posters here, that some are clearly here just to sing her praise :twocents-02cents:

I think the point that she's making is that the entire thread itself may not have been the best idea. I thought the same exact thing the first time I saw it.

This is supposed to be a friendly place. Imagine a model coming here to sign up and interact with other girls for the first time and finding an entire thread dedicated to judging her/her face/her voice/her shows/her mannerisms. It's not very nice, is it?

If you want to pick a model apart and bitch about her endlessly, there are a ton of other websites that are more suited to that type of behavior.

 

[SoTxBob]

..... knuckleheads going into her chatroom blurting out "OOH, THEY TALKIN BOUT CHU ON THAT AMBERCUTIE FORUM!"

I will confirm that.. I've seen them a few random times.

Has anyone watched her lately? I haven't for awhile and was wondering if there was any new schtick this go round.

 

[Anonymous]

@ brown fox
It's clear to me and few other posters here, that some are clearly here just to sing her praise :twocents-02cents:

Real cute.....

It's kind of hard for me to "sing the praises" of a model that I'm not even familiar with, but nice try though!

I didn't even read the whole thread, but I think it's a little pathetic that a person(s) is on here using terms like "sickening" because they're mad to see a pretty model making big money. This ain't gonna turn into another one of those 'conspiracy theory' threads, is it?

 

[Anonymous]

The entire thread itself may not have been the best idea.

Imagine a model coming here to sign up and interact with other girls for the first time and finding an entire thread dedicated to judging her/her face/her voice/her shows/her mannerisms. It's not very nice, is it?

If you want to pick a model apart and bitch about her endlessly, there are a ton of other websites that are more suited to that type of behavior.

Yup, this sums up my feelings on the matter. Thank you, Noelle.

 

[Nordling]

@ brown fox

The op wanted comments/thoughts about her whats wrong with that ? He's getting what he asked.

It's clear to me and few other posters here, that some are clearly here just to sing her praise :twocents-02cents:

I'd certainly prefer "sing her praise" than spilling immature jealousy. The OP, and he can correct me, is a bit of an Olivia fan, and I don't think he was calling for nasty critiques. There are ways of discussing things purely positively and still be interesting.

Most on here, from what I've read, find Oliviaville to be interesting, charming and a nice alternative room...even if they wouldn't become a "regular." Heck, if a model did nothing but wear a parka while attempting to solve Rubik's Cube for hours on end, and make bank while doing so, I'd give her kudos. lol I may not hang around though.

 

[SoTxBob]

This ain't gonna turn into another one of those 'conspiracy theory' threads, is it?

I think Liv broadcasts from an underground bunker @ Area 51... :shock: :?
:confusion-helpsos:

 

[camstory]

Any resentment I may have is not directed entirely towards Olivia but rather ultra-successful models as a whole, but more towards the members who allow them to maintain their success. I can't fault the models for taking advantage of their positions. But it's still a disgusting situation if you take a step back and think about it objectively.
.

Wow a thread can really get away from you if you don't pay attention for just lest than a day.

What I want to say about this quote is perhaps not real relevant to the OP, and may make me sound like I am idealistic, and a socialist. Both of which are fair enough, but that is what us passionate idealogs do, - preach at others about how screwed up the world is.

What is disgusting about members who feel it makes sense to tip 60,000, or 100,000 tokens, is that there are literally Millions of ppl starving in this world. And I don't see that as totally the individual members concern, but all of us who live in excess while others go hungry.

Sermon done, now I'll get back to the unread post here.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

@ brown fox

The op wanted comments/thoughts about her whats wrong with that ? He's getting what he asked.

It's clear to me and few other posters here, that some are clearly here just to sing her praise :twocents-02cents:

I'd certainly prefer "sing her praise" than spilling immature jealousy. The OP, and he can correct me, is a bit of an Olivia fan, and I don't think he was calling for nasty critiques. There are ways of discussing things purely positively and still be interesting.

Most on here, from what I've read, find Oliviaville to be interesting, charming and a nice alternative room...even if they wouldn't become a "regular." Heck, if a model did nothing but wear a parka while attempting to solve Rubik's Cube for hours on end, and make bank while doing so, I'd give her kudos. lol I may not hang around though.

When I was on MFC, the highest room count I ever had was when I was trying to solve a Rubik's Cube. :lol:

Personally, I think it's damn inspiring when I see someone making a lot of money in unusual ways. I think it shows the real beauty and potential of capitalism. It's the American Dream. How can someone be mad at somebody for figuring out their own way to success? I do think everyone has the potential to make a lot of money doing something they love in their own sense, but most people never figure it out. To those who have; rock on! If it weren't for successful camgirls showing me that I could in fact make my own way in the industry, and not compromise myself by sticking to the safe route, I would have given up a long time ago. As the Ferengi would say, DAMN! That girl's got some lobes!

 

[Nordling]

You've said it so much better than me, Veronica! And made me chuckle...Wish I'd seen your "Rubik Show." lol

 

[camstory]

@ brown fox

The op wanted comments/thoughts about her whats wrong with that ? He's getting what he asked.

It's clear to me and few other posters here, that some are clearly here just to sing her praise :twocents-02cents:

I'd certainly prefer "sing her praise" than spilling immature jealousy. The OP, and he can correct me, is a bit of an Olivia fan, and I don't think he was calling for nasty critiques. There are ways of discussing things purely positively and still be interesting.

Most on here, from what I've read, find Oliviaville to be interesting, charming and a nice alternative room...even if they wouldn't become a "regular." Heck, if a model did nothing but wear a parka while attempting to solve Rubik's Cube for hours on end, and make bank while doing so, I'd give her kudos. lol I may not hang around though.

When I was on MFC, the highest room count I ever had was when I was trying to solve a Rubik's Cube. :lol:

Personally, I think it's damn inspiring when I see someone making a lot of money in unusual ways. I think it shows the real beauty and potential of capitalism. It's the American Dream. How can someone be mad at somebody for figuring out their own way to success? I do think everyone has the potential to make a lot of money doing something they love in their own sense, but most people never figure it out. To those who have; rock on! If it weren't for successful camgirls showing me that I could in fact make my own way in the industry, and not compromise myself by sticking to the safe route, I would have given up a long time ago. As the Ferengi would say, DAMN! That girl's got some lobes!

I just love the Ferengi reference, and you VC, go girl.

I also like the idea of a parka wearing Model with Rubiks cube. :lol:

 

[LadyLuna]

Any resentment I may have is not directed entirely towards Olivia but rather ultra-successful models as a whole, but more towards the members who allow them to maintain their success. I can't fault the models for taking advantage of their positions. But it's still a disgusting situation if you take a step back and think about it objectively.

How DARE people take advantage of their position? Why, it's a crime I tell you! Shout it from the rooftops: no matter what other people think of you, you shouldn't charge more than your competition! For goodness sakes, how the fuck does Nike make all that money? Seriously! Their stuff is overpriced, and doesn't even last as long as half the other brands out there! And Dr Scholls, the scoundrel! Taking advantage of people wanting their footwear to be comfortable!?! It's insane!

While we're at it, why is it so expensive to make a movie with Angelina Jolie in it? Brad Pitt, you'd better stop charging companies so much to use you in their movies! Why, movie prices could be slashed in half if the lead actors didn't make so much!

Why are football players paid so much? They don't DO anything! It's not like it's hard work, playing a sport. It's a GAME for heaven's sakes, why are we paying people to play a game? And why the hell do I have to pay money to get in to watch them do something they obviously like so much?

Have I made my point yet?

 

[Kunra9]

I don't think I've ever spent more than 5 minutes in her room, so I really don't know much about her.

But if she has found some unusual ways to make tokens good for her.

She is providing entertainment that people are willing to pay for.
That's not a scam, or sick, or a trick, or unfair, it's exactly how it should be.

I was in a model's room one time where she was blatantly pretending to fist her own ass. But it was more of a joke. Really what she was doing was punching herself in the butt cheek and saying things like "ohh yaa it's so deep mm". It was one of the funniest things I've ever seen and I tipped repeatedly while she was doing it.

Members were coming in and objecting, trying to call her out declaring how fake it was and calling all the tippers morons for "falling for it" when we were literally just having a laugh.

If I want to tip a girl to pretend to fist her own ass I'll fucking do it! I'm not being scammed, I'm being entertained and compensating the model for the service she is providing.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Any resentment I may have is not directed entirely towards Olivia but rather ultra-successful models as a whole, but more towards the members who allow them to maintain their success. I can't fault the models for taking advantage of their positions. But it's still a disgusting situation if you take a step back and think about it objectively.
.

Wow a thread can really get away from you if you don't pay attention for just lest than a day.

What I want to say about this quote is perhaps not real relevant to the OP, and may make me sound like I am idealistic, and a socialist. Both of which are fair enough, but that is what us passionate idealogs do, - preach at others about how screwed up the world is.

What is disgusting about members who feel it makes sense to tip 60,000, or 100,000 tokens, is that there are literally Millions of ppl starving in this world. And I don't see that as totally the individual members concern, but all of us who live in excess while others go hungry.

Sermon done, now I'll get back to the unread post here.

I really don't think this is fair. I got my nails done the other day, $60. That could have saved like 12 children in Africa for the month. We ALL live in excess, just some more than others. But if you have ever purchased dessert (something unneeded), you have no right to judge. :twocents-02cents:

 

[Evvie]

Any resentment I may have is not directed entirely towards Olivia but rather ultra-successful models as a whole, but more towards the members who allow them to maintain their success. I can't fault the models for taking advantage of their positions. But it's still a disgusting situation if you take a step back and think about it objectively.
Like someone above me stated, the ultra big tippers are there more for their own egos than for the model. Consider this: Olivia can put up a topic "5k until Shame", which essentially means once topic is reached, she puts her stuff animal on cam and goes chill out for a half hour or so. She can use that pretty much everyday and not worry about it not being met, and thats on top of anything else she wanted to do that day. Consider topics like "32 1k nukes until #1". It's not just her who has topics like this but Olivia can routinely get these done. Really they are all the same in the sense that some ultra popular models can get tokens for essentially just showing up. It's almost free money. Don't get me wrong, they worked hard to put themselves in this rare position but it's still sick how easy the money can be once you get there.

It's not sick; it's commerce.

It's like anything that involves a lot of money being spent/made. Professional athletes get paid millions to play sports once a week. Sure, some might make the argument that these people being paid millions of dollars per annum while nurses working 50 hours a week are barely making enough to make ends meet is "sick" but that's how commerce works.

While I personally don't see the point of contributing to a 5000 token countdown so I can stare at a cuddly toy for half an hour; there are enough guys out there who are seemingly more than happy to do just that. They're not being manipulated or tricked. They're being presented with a service (a bizarre service admittedly, but a service nonetheless) and they're choosing to take advantage of it. The more people who willingly choose to partake in this, the more money Olivia makes.

I don't see why it would or should be any other way. Yes, ultimately it's a woman being paid more money in a few minutes than what some people make in a week for leaving a cuddly toy in front of a camera and then chilling out off cam for half an hour; but it's no more "sick" than a musician making millions in royalties on a song that took them an hour to write, or an inventor making billions from a product it took them a day to invent.

Bob, thank you for beating me to it.


I suggest this Doto fellow reads a Wikipedia article on how capitalism works. I will never judge someone on being poorly educated, but I feel he does not understand that MyFreeCams is a website built upon the concept of a free market.

Doto also seems to be one of the people who believes members are all kind of stupid idiots who should not be allowed to spend their own money as they please. After all, only HE knows that you aren't *really* enjoying your time spent with Olivia. At the risk of sounding like a square, I would like to propose that the average member actually isn't a raging dumbass that cannot decide how to spend his own disposable income.

Personally, I am disgusted that Doto has not sold his computer and canceled his Internet connection to help feed starving people in Alabama. He clearly has so much money he could be using for charity but instead he decides to spend it on frivolities like entertainment. I mean, come on. Who does that?

 

[camstory]

Any resentment I may have is not directed entirely towards Olivia but rather ultra-successful models as a whole, but more towards the members who allow them to maintain their success. I can't fault the models for taking advantage of their positions. But it's still a disgusting situation if you take a step back and think about it objectively.
.

Wow a thread can really get away from you if you don't pay attention for just lest than a day.

What I want to say about this quote is perhaps not real relevant to the OP, and may make me sound like I am idealistic, and a socialist. Both of which are fair enough, but that is what us passionate idealogs do, - preach at others about how screwed up the world is.

What is disgusting about members who feel it makes sense to tip 60,000, or 100,000 tokens, is that there are literally Millions of ppl starving in this world. And I don't see that as totally the individual members concern, but all of us who live in excess while others go hungry.

Sermon done, now I'll get back to the unread post here.

I really don't think this is fair. I got my nails done the other day, $60. That could have saved like 12 children in Africa for the month. We ALL live in excess, just some more than others. But if you have ever purchased dessert (something unneeded), you have no right to judge. :twocents-02cents:

My dear Lady did you not notice my use of the word "us"in my judgment? Us includes me myself and I. Do I think you are wrong to get your nails done while ppl starve? No more wrong than I am when I order dessert, or go out to dinner for that matter. That is to say yes I think you and I are both wrong at some level. My main point is not to make judgment, but rather to keep in every ones mind that there are others much less fortunate than we are. Should we feel badly about that? Yes I think we should, but that is just my own personal opinion and my post was nothing more than my desire to say don't forget. That is not something ppl like a lot, - being asked to look at unpleasantness. But it is how I try to help because I don't have as much money to throw at it as I would like. Weather it does any good we can debate, but until I am convinced it does not I will continue.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Any resentment I may have is not directed entirely towards Olivia but rather ultra-successful models as a whole, but more towards the members who allow them to maintain their success. I can't fault the models for taking advantage of their positions. But it's still a disgusting situation if you take a step back and think about it objectively.
.

Wow a thread can really get away from you if you don't pay attention for just lest than a day.

What I want to say about this quote is perhaps not real relevant to the OP, and may make me sound like I am idealistic, and a socialist. Both of which are fair enough, but that is what us passionate idealogs do, - preach at others about how screwed up the world is.

What is disgusting about members who feel it makes sense to tip 60,000, or 100,000 tokens, is that there are literally Millions of ppl starving in this world. And I don't see that as totally the individual members concern, but all of us who live in excess while others go hungry.

Sermon done, now I'll get back to the unread post here.

I really don't think this is fair. I got my nails done the other day, $60. That could have saved like 12 children in Africa for the month. We ALL live in excess, just some more than others. But if you have ever purchased dessert (something unneeded), you have no right to judge. :twocents-02cents:

My dear Lady did you not notice my use of the word "us"in my judgment? Us includes me myself and I. Do I think you are wrong to get your nails done while ppl starve? No more wrong than I am when I order dessert, or go out to dinner for that matter. That is to say yes I think you and I are both wrong at some level. My main point is not to make judgment, but rather to keep in every ones mind that there are others much less fortunate than we are. Should we feel badly about that? Yes I think we should, but that is just my own personal opinion and my post was nothing more than my desire to say don't forget. That is not something ppl like a lot, - being asked to look at unpleasantness. But it is how I try to help because I don't have as much money to throw at it as I would like. Weather it does any good we can debate, but until I am convinced it does not I will continue.

Okay.