Reality check

[AlexLady]

You must be one of those stereotypical Americans who think showing a tit is only for porn, sluts, and whores. Grats.

Hell, you can't even read the definition even though it's posted.

You earned bonus points!

 

[LoveLov]

yeah Alex, I saw the definition, and U have seen my opinion...
now, no need to be rude about it and tell me I earned bonus points...
if thats the case u have earned bonus points for being a bitch!

 

[Mikeythegeek]

How are the people watching the show whores? We are paying to see the models perform. That's not being a whore. Your explanation makes no sense.

 

[SatanJonez]

for some I guess it is the fear of having some family members hear about/see what they do..
when u are 19-25 and u can care less about ur private parts.. but for certain ladies after lets say 30, who have or want to have a family (aka kids). its a major issue...the problem is not how u will explain to people that U did what U did for money or for a better life in general.. the problem is how is YOUR KID going to explain to his buddies that his mommy is getting ass fucked,..
i dont think this how issue is about us, models, young or old.. is more about those dear to us who can hurt one way or another when they hear the news....

oh and by the way...
are those hollywood actresses getting naked in certain scenes whores? well they got big bucks because of those scenes so my vote is YES! :lol:

I gotta say I don't think any kid is going to go around bragging their mother was doing naughty stuff on the internet or even want to really know about it. Maybe it might get brought up with their friends, but kids are always gonna find something to talk shit about.

 

[danavixen]

Nudity isn't a sexual act, it's nudity. So no, they're not whores.

Actually, by cultural defiition nudity is a sexual act. think about it--how many movies do you see where the woman gets naked and is, say...sketched. With no sex or sexual tension or connection to the people around her in the scene.
If you're in the jungles of the Amazon, nudity has a different meaning, but keep in mind that modern society places bans and restrictions on nudity because of the views under which it is held.

 

[danavixen]

You must be one of those stereotypical Americans who think showing a tit is only for porn, sluts, and whores. Grats.

Hell, you can't even read the definition even though it's posted.

You earned bonus points!

Wow, where did that come from?? I saw the definition and I'm a pretty stereotypical american but I know showing my tits goes beyond porn, slutting it up and being a whore. It's pretty rare though. That was pretty uncalled for, Alex. You're a pretty cool person and very intelligent. Never would have expected this from you. I know you have tweeted recently about being sick with a fever. I'm going to assume that's the culprit behind the snarky last few days.

 

[AlexLady]

Nudity isn't a sexual act, it's nudity. So no, they're not whores.

Actually, by cultural defiition nudity is a sexual act. think about it--how many movies do you see where the woman gets naked and is, say...sketched. With no sex or sexual tension or connection to the people around her in the scene.
If you're in the jungles of the Amazon, nudity has a different meaning, but keep in mind that modern society places bans and restrictions on nudity because of the views under which it is held.

Actually, most cultures who think nudity is a sexual act... didn't... a hundred years ago. It's a very, very modern thing. Generally people being what we call brainwashed.

You must be one of those stereotypical Americans who think showing a tit is only for porn, sluts, and whores. Grats.

Hell, you can't even read the definition even though it's posted.

You earned bonus points!

Wow, where did that come from?? I saw the definition and I'm a pretty stereotypical american but I know showing my tits goes beyond porn, slutting it up and being a whore. It's pretty rare though. That was pretty uncalled for, Alex. You're a pretty cool person and very intelligent. Never would have expected this from you. I know you have tweeted recently about being sick with a fever. I'm going to assume that's the culprit behind the snarky last few days.

Did you read anything LoveLov said?

Yeah, stereotypically, Americans generally think that nudity, porn, etc, is all grouped up and is all evil and for the devil or something like that.

Don't get upset at me just because you hate the stereotype you identify with.

 

[AmberCutie]

Actresses get naked in movies. If they do a scene with a sexual act, they are acting. If they do a scene where they are a prostitute, they are not a hooker, they are ACTING. LoL you guys, I swear...

End of this discussion right here and then we get back on topic. "Camwhore" is a term we call ourselves, don't get offended over it because that's not the intention. Yes, "whore" means to do sexual acts and get paid for it. Technically camgirls fall under this unless they never do anything sexual on cam. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. And stop being snarky just because you can.

I love you Naomi.

 

[NaomiRose]

Actresses get naked in movies. If they do a scene with a sexual act, they are acting. If they do a scene where they are a prostitute, they are not a hooker, they are ACTING. LoL you guys, I swear...

End of this discussion right here and then we get back on topic. "Camwhore" is a term we call ourselves, don't get offended over it because that's not the intention. Yes, "whore" means to do sexual acts and get paid for it. Technically camgirls fall under this unless they never do anything sexual on cam. Stop arguing for the sake of arguing. And stop being snarky just because you can.

I love you Naomi.

Hehehehe! Love you too

Haha, seeing that totally made my day!

Man, we are so far from the topic by now! LOL.

I think that maybe even in the models forums we should post something like what bawksy said? I truly do think girls should realize what they are getting into when they become a camwhore. I love being a camwhore! But I definitely didn't consider all the potential consequences of me being on the internet forever before I started this. I'm okay with it now, but I still think new girls should be well aware.

I wish someone had told me that before I started! So you can at least sort that out before you begin performing.

 

[bawksy]

I think that maybe even in the models forums we should post something like what bawksy said? I truly do think girls should realize what they are getting into when they become a camwhore.

It might be a little too late if they've already made it into the Models Only area, since you have to have signed up as a model just to gain access:

http://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1696

 

[NaomiRose]

I think that maybe even in the models forums we should post something like what bawksy said? I truly do think girls should realize what they are getting into when they become a camwhore.

It might be a little too late if they've already made it into the Models Only area, since you have to have signed up as a model just to gain access:

http://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=1696

Yeah I guess you're right, but they might still be fairly new and have a chance to get out before they really get started kind of thing I guess.

 

[muskcat]

I think what some of you are missing is not so much the effects it might have on your personal and family life but what effects it could have on a future professional career.Companies are already heavily checking up potential employees online,so having a history of appearing nude online is not going to go down too well at that interview for the fantastic Publishing job you might go for in a couple of years.You can't do this job forever.

 

[AngelNery]

If you have the motivation you can do this a long time, for example check out Tammy from Cams. She's motivated and going strong. On the other hand, some girls should be their own boss if they work hard now,and handle their financials smartly.

 

[Keithy]

I think what some of you are missing is not so much the effects it might have on your personal and family life but what effects it could have on a future professional career.Companies are already heavily checking up potential employees online,so having a history of appearing nude online is not going to go down too well at that interview for the fantastic Publishing job you might go for in a couple of years.You can't do this job forever.

I only hire women that I suspect will show me their tits. Failing that I better damn well find them online.

 

[NaomiRose]

I think what some of you are missing is not so much the effects it might have on your personal and family life but what effects it could have on a future professional career.Companies are already heavily checking up potential employees online,so having a history of appearing nude online is not going to go down too well at that interview for the fantastic Publishing job you might go for in a couple of years.You can't do this job forever.

I, for one, fully and completely believe you could do this job until you retire. Not forever obviously, no one can do any job forever. Lol. But, you make good money at it, you can retire pretty early... And there are women that are in their 40s and even 50s or higher that make pretty good coin webcamming. It's totally possible to cam until you retire... As long as you are smart about it.

There could certainly be repercussions if you do plan to have other jobs in the future... I totally agree with that. However, at least for me personally, I never plan to work for someone else. There are so many jobs I can do on my own.. Webcamming, writing, owning my own business... Wherever life takes me. After having this wonderful job with so much freedom, there's no way I could go back to a 9 to 5 job that restricts me at all. I love this freedom. It's empowering and I believe I'll keep it... I don't have to webcam my whole life to do it either. I'm looking into writing and I've certainly thought many times about owning my own adult store.

Plenty of options for us all. If you do plan to return to the "real" "professional" world, yes you should worry about that... At least have a cover job while you are camming so you don't have a suspicious gap on your resume. Every woman that is camming now is fully and completely capable of camming for however long they like... And they are also capable of running their own business, no matter what it is.

 

[GingerStreaks]

You can't do this job forever.

Why not? Is there some organization that tracks down old ladies and glues the clothes to their backs?

 

[Jebbaz]

The society for the retinal health of humanity.

 

[GingerStreaks]

The society for the retinal health of humanity.

LOL "Hello Ma'am, we're with the RHH. Please put down the dildo and step away from the webcam."

 

[Eva_ChangeN]

The way I look at it, everything you do comes back around. Karma is a bitch. I have known people who get on yahoo and such and "show their bits" for free. Even alot of us admit that we have sent pics or went on cam for free before ever becoming a camwhore. Also, I don't know if you guys have heard of this, but uh...it seems that if you put anything on the net, sex related or not, it can come back to you. People have also been known to stalk and injur or kill people do to them putting up all their info and shit on the net. How is it worse to be a human and express sexual feelings on cam to pay bills than to put drunk pics of yourself under your real name on facebook? I know that I would have rather found out that my mom was a camwhore, staying at home and doing a natural act on cam to help pay for me and my sisters. Instead I found out that she cheated on my Dad while partying and smoking dope with my little sister and driving drunk on a nightly basis during her alcoholic adventures. My mom having fun with a fake cock would have been WAY better. But anyways, I have always used "stage names" for anything other than my real job and taxes. My real name, employer, city, bday, and friends and family all are adjusted due to which accounts I am running at a time. I camwhore on my laptop, and my real life FB, twitter, myspace, blogs and everything else are on my desktop. So I have done everything I can think to shelter my daughter, till she is older, from my camming. When she is mature enough to realize that porn and masturbation exist, then we will discuss what I have done and the political correctness of it. I grew up with a Dad who was protective and a mom who pretended to be a prude till my sister started getting wild and they started partying together. Let me tell you, HATE my mom, because she lied and tried to hide what she was doing, and tried to force the "do as I say not as I do" motto. I would have respected and loved her for who she was, not for being a worthless liar....So yea, there is my spew on it, and a little side note to boot.

 

[Skulliee]

If nudity is considered sexual/pornographic in nature, then goddamn I painted/drew a bunch of porn at university.

 

[Cash81]

This thread is just returning to the topic bawsky started it with: because you're showing yourself in all your "glory" online, the images will never be lost and you might one day have to come to grips with the reality of the actions you're taking now. Besides, as any cam girl who's been online for longer than a week knows, it only takes one person to make your current reality a living hell. So while thinking that what you do now will most likely never be able to touch the reality you foresee yourself having 5, 10, 15 years from now (e.g. marriage, kids, career, social life, etc.), the way you're portraying yourself now -- visually speaking -- can come back to haunt you at any time in the future no matter the work or life you have down the road. Even if you're married and only a housewife, it will just take the discovery of one image of you sucking on a dildo (you could even be clothed at the time) by your husband or partner's business colleague to ruin and affect your whole "present" reality for a long time afterwards. Just think about how amateur porn vids posted when the world wide web (distinguishing the web from the "Internet" here ) was still in its infancy in the late '90s still occasionally return in search results on free vid sites. So for those of you thinking that your time with MFC or any cam site should have no affect on you "after" you've moved on (e.g. becoming a business owner like some of you have suggested), just know and realize that nothing ever fades to black on the net.




Now! To the reason I logged on and opened this thread :lol: : A friendly warning to all models who make phone calls to chatters in pvt by "blocking" their number... thinking this simple action will protect your personal information from being discovered:

I recently discovered a service that unlocks blocked & restricted phone calls allowing the caller's personal information (i.e. phone number & name of the "blocked" call; even the caller's billing address) to be revealed to the recipient. I won't share the service's name for obvious reasons, but it's been public since '09 so there is more than just one website offering similar unblocking features.

And like the matter which has been discussed earlier on this thread in previous posts, some chatters, when presented with even bits of a model's personal-identifying information, can get very calculated in their pursuit of "knowing" more about a model. Hence, to all and any models who make phone calls in a pvt using a cell phone, I would like to recommend that you stop doing so for your own protection or you simply begin only making calls from an online service, like Skype or Yahoo, or begin using a SIM card with information that cannot be linked to the "real" you. If neither of those options are appealing, you can even buy a Skype number (make sure the area code is different from your real one), forward that number to your cell phone, and have your customers call you in pvt.

 

[AshaSnow]

I think that if I ever join the corporate world it wouldn't be until after I return to college and get another degree. Let's say that takes 4 years. If I got a lot of legit jobs and did impressive work, I doubt my past job (if they do a background check or if a social security check returns back the companies I previously worked for) would count for nearly as much. And if it did I probably don't want to work for those folks anyway.

But I'm kind of interested in becoming a competitive pole dancer now so we'll see where that leads haha

 

[Cash81]

But I'm kind of interested in becoming a competitive pole dancer now so we'll see where that leads haha

Are there really pole dancing competitions? If so, that's the shit! How does one find out about these and where they're hosted?

 

[AmyLemon]

Coolbeans Asha! I have a friend of a friend of a friend who was a gymnast as a girl and then a kinesiology student and went on to be a personal trainer and fitness adviser and discovered the pole and it's her true love and passion now. She competes in events like those and gets paid mega bucks to teach at niche fitness clubs and has tried out for cirque du soleil a few times!

Anyhoo, I agree with Cash that the stuff we're doing will live on the web forever and ever - that's just a given. But the emergence of Reputation Management firms in this new cyber age gives me some comfort. No one has the power to track down and erase everything in this realm but there are organizations out there that now specialize in this exact market and could put at least a dent in the volume of my online slut activities when I start pursuing my political career.

 

[AlexLady]

... So while thinking that what you do now will most likely never be able to touch the reality you foresee yourself having 5, 10, 15 years from now (e.g. marriage, kids, career, social life, etc.), the way you're portraying yourself now -- visually speaking -- can come back to haunt you at any time in the future no matter the work or life you have down the road. Even if you're married and only a housewife, it will just take the discovery of one image of you sucking on a dildo (you could even be clothed at the time) by your husband or partner's business colleague to ruin and affect your whole "present" reality for a long time afterwards. ...

I think the whole point of this thread, Cash, is that if any girl is the type of person who would be ashamed of this--even in the future--that they're doing it wrong. Any girl who could benefit from your preaching is in the wrong business.

What kind of camwhore would marry a guy without him knowing such a big part of her past, anyways? That marriage is doomed from the start.

If your kids find out? Well, if it ruins your kids, you raised them wrong.

If your husband gets hurt at his work because people don't respect him for his wife having flashed someone ten years ago? Fuck him; he needs to demand respect for himself. If he can't handle his own respect, he doesn't deserve any. No man should be ashamed of his wife, and only one with no pride for their wife would let that happen. If he's not proud of you for you touching yourself online, well, go back to my second point.

 

[GingerStreaks]

... So while thinking that what you do now will most likely never be able to touch the reality you foresee yourself having 5, 10, 15 years from now (e.g. marriage, kids, career, social life, etc.), the way you're portraying yourself now -- visually speaking -- can come back to haunt you at any time in the future no matter the work or life you have down the road. Even if you're married and only a housewife, it will just take the discovery of one image of you sucking on a dildo (you could even be clothed at the time) by your husband or partner's business colleague to ruin and affect your whole "present" reality for a long time afterwards. ...

I think the whole point of this thread, Cash, is that if any girl is the type of person who would be ashamed of this--even in the future--that they're doing it wrong. Any girl who could benefit from your preaching is in the wrong business.

What kind of camwhore would marry a guy without him knowing such a big part of her past, anyways? That marriage is doomed from the start.

If your kids find out? Well, if it ruins your kids, you raised them wrong.

If your husband gets hurt at his work because people don't respect him for his wife having flashed someone ten years ago? Fuck him; he needs to demand respect for himself. If he can't handle his own respect, he doesn't deserve any. No man should be ashamed of his wife, and only one with no pride for their wife would let that happen. If he's not proud of you for you touching yourself online, well, go back to my second point.

Yeah, Alex is right. If someone seeing you sucking a dildo would ruin your life then you shouldn't be camming. Sure, you could encounter some embarrassment, but that shouldn't destroy you. I recently had a family member discover me and that was awfully embarrassing and I did worry about some fallout from her but it sure wasn't going to ruin my life.

As for marriage, kids, career, social life, I'm old. I already have all of that. My husband knows everything I do and he's not even slightly ashamed or embarrassed by it or me.

My kids are being raised in a pro sex worker environment. That's something that I think a lot of people don't realize. If you're raised in an environment where sex work is considered dirty or nasty then of course you're going to think of how ashamed you would be of your mother for doing it. The children of sex workers are not raised in that type of environment. My kids have had dinner with porn stars, strippers and prostitutes, these people are our friends. When someone says that porn stars are dirty disgusting people, my kids get upset because that person is insulting their Aunt Heather and Aunt Stacy.

I'm not worried about my career because I'm an artist. If I aspired to be a politician or an elementary school teacher, I'd have some reason to worry but I don't so that's a non-issue.

My husband has a more typical career and his colleagues have found out. You might be surprised that they didn't tar and feather him or attempt to burn down our home or even try to get him fired. People are more tolerant of something when it's right in their face than they are when they're sitting around bullshitting about hypothetical scenarios. When he makes it clear that he's not ashamed of my job and if they have a problem with it, it's their problem to work out, they move on. He gets the occasionally little joke that he participates in and that's about it. Some of their wives don't like me but big deal, that's hardly the end of the world.

 

[Cash81]

... So while thinking that what you do now will most likely never be able to touch the reality you foresee yourself having 5, 10, 15 years from now (e.g. marriage, kids, career, social life, etc.), the way you're portraying yourself now -- visually speaking -- can come back to haunt you at any time in the future no matter the work or life you have down the road. Even if you're married and only a housewife, it will just take the discovery of one image of you sucking on a dildo (you could even be clothed at the time) by your husband or partner's business colleague to ruin and affect your whole "present" reality for a long time afterwards. ...

I think the whole point of this thread, Cash, is that if any girl is the type of person who would be ashamed of this--even in the future--that they're doing it wrong. Any girl who could benefit from your preaching is in the wrong business.

What kind of camwhore would marry a guy without him knowing such a big part of her past, anyways? That marriage is doomed from the start.

If your kids find out? Well, if it ruins your kids, you raised them wrong.

If your husband gets hurt at his work because people don't respect him for his wife having flashed someone ten years ago? Fuck him; he needs to demand respect for himself. If he can't handle his own respect, he doesn't deserve any. No man should be ashamed of his wife, and only one with no pride for their wife would let that happen. If he's not proud of you for you touching yourself online, well, go back to my second point.

You're quite a bitter person, aren't you Alex? Didn't mean to strike a chord in ya! But basically, what you're saying is that there's no need for this thread to remain sticky'd to the top, eh, since I was merely rewording the general theme of it?

 

[Skulliee]

I, for one, do not aspire to have a marriage, kids, nor a social life. And as far as I'm concerned.. I could do much worse than getting naked online.

And I agree with Alex. I didn't think she came off bitter at all.

Most people with common sense and a general idea of how the internet works should be able to work out that if shit from YEARS ago can still be dredged up on the internet, then anything they post/do online now can also be found in the future and you can't really predict when that may happen, or if it may happen at all.

But I do feel like a lot of girls sign up for camming because it doesn't seem like a lot of work or a 'real job' to them at the time and they probably don't even think about what could happen once someone screenshots a picture of them with their fingers up their cooter and posts it somewhere.

 

[Jebbaz]

I wouldn't call Alex bitter, she's much too nice to be considered bitter. If anything, when the subject matter pisses her off, she can come off a bit tactless or blunt, but bitter? No I think thats too harsh.


Ladies gotta be aware that this gig can follow them around later in life, and considering we live in a world dominated by idiots who think sex is bad mmkay, things could get a little difficult at a later point in time.

 

[AmberCutie]

And I agree with Alex. I didn't think she came off bitter at all.

Most people with common sense and a general idea of how the internet works should be able to work out that if shit from YEARS ago can still be dredged up on the internet, then anything they post/do online now can also be found in the future and you can't really predict when that may happen, or if it may happen at all.

But I do feel like a lot of girls sign up for camming because it doesn't seem like a lot of work or a 'real job' to them at the time and they probably don't even think about what could happen once someone screenshots a picture of them with their fingers up their cooter and posts it somewhere.

Exactly this. All of this.