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I guess it should be somewhat of a surprise how easily they caved, but it really isn't.

Given the growing lack of respect Obama wields with his foreign policy, it should be interesting how he deals with it.
 
YelloMit said:
I'm just upset I can't play online on my PS4.

Maybe because I'm Australian? Iunno.

I havent turned on mine in a while, but maybe they're still under attack - there's annoying idiots doing Denial of Service attacks against the PSN for a while...

Bocefish said:
I guess it should be somewhat of a surprise how easily they caved, but it really isn't.

Well, considering that they now have confirmation that this is linked to NK and they were now threatening more than just hacking the company, it makes some sense. But to be fair, if I were a Sony executive, instead of cancelling the release I'd just throw this movie directly on worldwide release on any online outlet (even torrent sites) that wanted it for free, just as a big 'f*** you' to NK.
 
weirdbr said:
Well, considering that they now have confirmation that this is linked to NK and they were now threatening more than just hacking the company, it makes some sense. But to be fair, if I were a Sony executive, instead of cancelling the release I'd just throw this movie directly on worldwide release on any online outlet (even torrent sites) that wanted it for free, just as a big 'f*** you' to NK.

What confirmation?
 
Sevrin said:
weirdbr said:
Well, considering that they now have confirmation that this is linked to NK and they were now threatening more than just hacking the company, it makes some sense. But to be fair, if I were a Sony executive, instead of cancelling the release I'd just throw this movie directly on worldwide release on any online outlet (even torrent sites) that wanted it for free, just as a big 'f*** you' to NK.

What confirmation?

It was on the news they have officially confirmed it was linked to NK but I have yet to see any proof of such or how they got to that. Im sure the articles will start rolling out soon.

I think Sony trying to change it to Columbia pictures set off the editing of it then theaters cancelling showings then to now them cancelling it. How sad to give in to this bullshit from them. I dont give a shit how much they wanna threaten us. Go right ahead and give us cause to finally take them out. Theyre a horrible country. They show propaganda against us and every other western civilization so why cant we show a movie too? Giving in is a sissy move and sets such a dangerous prescience.
 
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/1 ... 44250.html
U.S. officials have determined that hackers working for North Korea are behind the Sony Pictures Entertainment attack, multiple news outlets reported Wednesday.

According to NBC, the hack originated outside of North Korea, but appears to have been carried out by individuals working for the North Korean government.

Sony began working with law enforcement earlier this month following the November breach on the entertainment company's servers by anonymous hackers. The hack resulted in the leak of many sensitive emails and documents, including film scripts. The attack was believed to be in retaliation for the release of "The Interview," a comedy about an assassination attempt on North Korean leader Kim Jong Un starring Seth Rogen and James Franco.

While officials told the AP and CNN that an announcement would come in the near future, The New York Times reports that the White House is still weighing how it will respond to the attack:

I predict Obama will weigh his options until it no longer matters wtf he says or does, as usual, possibly drawing another meaningless red line. Perhaps he'll even send Dennis Rodman back to negotiate with the little NORK cretin or apologize for offending the fucktard's sensibilities. There doesn't seem to be many commie tyrants left that he doesn't want to appease.

Welcome to censorship... and with Obama in charge, this is likely only the beginning.
 
As much as the political pendulum swung so far to the left can we expect that same pendulum to swing right when/if a conservative wins election to the Oval Office? Can you imagine the payback that would be due to progressives if such a scenario happens? The current POTUS has yet to meet a tyrannical dictator he hasn't caved in to; does it actually surprise anyone that the Hollywood left would follow his lead and kow down to the NORK's?
 
I dont think this has a thing to do with Obama or his policies or what he has done. A movie was made, a dictator didnt like it, and he made a threat. The president has had no say in what the theaters or Sony does thus far. We could have any president and this movie would still be made and NKorea wouldnt like it and threaten us. Its what they do and always have no matter who was in power.

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Teagan_Chase said:
I dont think this has a thing to do with Obama or his policies or what he has done. A movie was made, a dictator didnt like it, and he made a threat. The president has had no say in what the theaters or Sony does thus far. We could have any president and this movie would still be made and NKorea wouldnt like it and threaten us. Its what they do and always have no matter who was in power.

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When terrorist threats are waged against U.S. citizens and businesses, whose sole responsibility is it to protect us?

The theater and movie decisions have been made by private entities purely for chicken shit liability reasons, due to the weaknesses in our security and lack of will to beef them up adequately.

ETA: I'd be pissed if it was a movie I really wanted to see and they pulled it for chicken shit unsubstantiated reasons. I say let the public decide and keep the movie open and available. Or better yet, make it a free showing nationwide to send the fuckwits a clear message about our way of life and how we do things.
 
Bocefish said:
Teagan_Chase said:
I dont think this has a thing to do with Obama or his policies or what he has done. A movie was made, a dictator didnt like it, and he made a threat. The president has had no say in what the theaters or Sony does thus far. We could have any president and this movie would still be made and NKorea wouldnt like it and threaten us. Its what they do and always have no matter who was in power.

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When terrorist threats are waged against U.S. citizens and businesses, who's sole responsibility is it to protect us?

The theater and movie decisions have been made by private entities purely for chicken shit liability reasons, due to the weaknesses in our security and lack of will to beef them up adequately.

Which still has nothing to do with who the president is right now or his policies. Korea is gonna threaten no matter who our president is. Always have. If someone wants to attack us they are going to regardless. They dont need a movie to be the reason. No country is completely secure against attacks and if someone wants to get to someone bad enough there is always a way. We could spend billions more in security and still be at risk just cause of who we are, not our president.
 
Teagan_Chase said:
Korea is gonna threaten no matter who our president is.

I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree. Obama's ineptitude, weaknesses and inabilities are being greatly taken advantage of imo. Of course, you may and obviously do have entirely different points of view.
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Bocefish said:
Teagan_Chase said:
Korea is gonna threaten no matter who our president is.

I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree. Obama's ineptitude, weaknesses and inabilities are being greatly taken advantage of imo. Of course, you may and obviously do have entirely different points of view.
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Well considering they have been doing it for how many years now president after president since their war yeah were gonna disagree. Respectfully though :) They just like trying to make their dick seem big I think and always have. They could careless what our president says or does or even the UN for the most part. Blaming everything on the president I believe has become a constant cop out for everyone on every thing even if he has nothing to do with it.
 
Teagan_Chase said:
Bocefish said:
Teagan_Chase said:
Korea is gonna threaten no matter who our president is.

I respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree. Obama's ineptitude, weaknesses and inabilities are being greatly taken advantage of imo. Of course, you may and obviously do have entirely different points of view.
:twocents-02cents:

Well considering they have been doing it for how many years now president after president since their war yeah were gonna disagree. Respectfully though :) They just like trying to make their dick seem big I think and always have. They could careless what our president says or does or even the UN for the most part. Blaming everything on the president I believe has become a constant cop out for everyone on every thing even if he has nothing to do with it.

In fact, they are in a position where they have to threat and cause stirrups. This is one of the only ways that anyone pays attention to them and provides aid/funding/bribes, which has kept the Kim Jung's in power in the first place. Their economy is in shambles and they are already suffering massive famine even with the aid. Actually right after Kim Jung Il died and Kim Jung Un took over, the threats started ramping up, and many experts believed this was to prove that Kim Jung Un could keep other countries talking about North Korea. The only reason they get so much aid compared to other Third World Countries, and other countries with hostile leaders is because of this media sensationalism and the threat to South Korea. Basically providing them aid would be a lot cheaper then war.

I agree whole hardly, this would have occurred regardless of the president in power. But I do believe that further "internet security" and loss of freedom is more likely to be imposed under Obama, just based on his past decisions. Granted I have a feeling even with a Republican in power this loss of security would occur too, Bush was ridiculously bad about personal freedoms as well with the Patriot Act.

Edit: With the military the US funds, and the shock of the 60's and 70's. I think the US government at this point correctly recognizes the biggest threat to itself is internally and not externally.
 
Yes, this is yet another attempt by the little nork psycho to be relevant, but on a whole other level that requires firm leadership and it must be dealt with swiftly and severely to send a message. Obama's inept leadership has been evidenced time and time so not holding my breath for anything different this time.

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Sony really need to do some work on their internal/external online network security, especially now that their videogame branch is one of the only branch actually making money.

Looks like some people are forgetting that Sony is a multinational company with employees and stations all around the world, whatever Obama has to say on a multinational company internal decision don't really matter.
 
It baffles me that Sony wasn't more on top of their security after the PSN debacle. Obviously they don't have their information encrypted very well. I know that those are different factions of Sony, but it still falls on Sony's head since they're the overhead company. It's true that even with a little better security of their files, emails, scripts, and whatnot that they still might have been successfully hacked, but I can only be lead to believe that they don't take security of their confidential documents very seriously.

I think it's a pussy move to pull the movie, but at the same time I wouldn't want to see my country in any undue danger - something that could have easily been avoided (and has been avoided thus far by the decision to pull it). It's kind of a moot point though because if North Korea truly wanted to attack us and was in a position that they could, they would.

Honestly the security breach is the thing that bothers me the most because countries are going to do what they want, especially those who are as big-headed as us and NK. All of it seems senseless to me, but maybe Sony will learn their lesson with the security breach and get their act together, but then again that's what I thought after so many PSN accounts got hacked.


Edit: Mr. Rodry beat me to it ;)
 
MrRodry said:
Sony really need to do some work on their internal/external online network security, especially now that their videogame branch is one of the only branch actually making money.

Looks like some people are forgetting that Sony is a multinational company with employees and stations all around the world, whatever Obama has to say on a multinational company internal decision don't really matter.

This x1000.

The famous Lulzsec Sony security hack back in 2011 was a simple SQL injection "hack". This is one of the most basic around and one of the easiest to prevent. It's shocking that a company as rich as Sony could have such lack of security measures.

I had an assignment in University many many years ago to create a website for a small business in town to sell arts and crafts online, and even I created countermeasures for SQL injection, with no business experience and only little amateur experience in network security.
 
Looks like some people are forgetting that Sony is a multinational company with employees and stations all around the world, whatever Obama has to say on a multinational company internal decision don't really matter

This attack happened on U.S. soil and is costing Sony hundreds of millions not to mention affecting how people live their daily lives allowing dictators to censor our 1st Amendment rights. Some have compared it to a Pearl Harbor on the First Amendment.

What the NORKS and others are learning is that they can stop a movie, which means they and others will now think they can stop a newspaper if there's a story that they don't like... What's next? The Superbowl being cancelled??

When U.S. citizens are being threatened with a 9/11-type terror attack, prompting North America's five largest picture house chains to bow out of their Christmas Day release, the global composition of Sony narrows considerably requiring a bold U.S. response. Again, not holding my breath on Obama showing any type of serious leadership on the issue.
 
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This attack happened on U.S. soil and is costing Sony hundreds of millions not to mention affecting how people live their daily lives allowing dictators to censor our 1st Amendment rights. Some have compared it to a Pearl Harbor on the First Amendment.

What the NORKS and others are learning is that they can stop a movie, which means they and others will now think they can stop a newspaper if there's a story that they don't like... What's next? The Superbowl being cancelled??

When U.S. citizens are being threatened with a 9/11-type terror attack, prompting North America's five largest picture house chains to bow out of their Christmas Day release, the global composition of Sony narrows considerably requiring a bold U.S. response. Again, not holding my breath on Obama showing any type of serious leadership on the issue.

This is not a attack on U.S. soil, this is not a act of censorship and this is definitely not another Pearl Harbor. People that are calling this another "Pearl Harbor" are mocking the deaths and the human loss that occurred that day.

This is a internal decision, made by Sony, that decided to not put one of their products out for mass consumption.

The threat that you mentioned was posted anonymously on a site called Pastebin - and that was it - nothing more. For me, considering the fact that Sony has a chronic failure in their security, the company decision was not based on the fear of acts of terror but because they don't really know how deep the breach went.

Stop listening to people making stupid comparisons and start considering the facts.
 
MrRodry said:
This is not a attack on U.S. soil, this is not a act of censorship and this is definitely not another Pearl Harbor. People that are calling this another "Pearl Harbor" are mocking the deaths and the human loss that occurred that day.

This is a internal decision, made by Sony, that decided to not put one of their products out for mass consumption.

The threat that you mentioned was posted anonymously on a site called Pastebin - and that was it - nothing more. For me, considering the fact that Sony has a chronic failure in their security, the company decision was not based on the fear of acts of terror but because they don't really know how deep the breach went.

Stop listening to people making stupid comparisons and start considering the facts.

Now you're telling me what to do? How about you fuck off with telling other people what to do or not do. Fuck you very much.

I put far more stock in professionals from the FBI and companies like CNET than the internet wannabe know-it-alls.

This attack on a U.S. company is likely to be the largest one to date and constitutes a national security issue. It's cyber warfare, plain and simple and needs to be dealt with.

It doesn't matter where the threat came from because once the lame stream media gets hold of it, it's all blown out proportion. There is zero credibility to the threats on movie goers on a 9/11 scale, but facts like that don't matter to most.

Here's some more stupid people making stupid comparisons without considering the facts:

http://www.computerworld.com/article/28 ... t-war.html

Sony attack was unusually sophisticated, ruthless

By Patrick Thibodeau FOLLOW
Computerworld | Dec 18, 2014 9:25 AM PT
It has been an exceptional year for IT security breaches, which have become part of an escalating trend in destructive attacks. And they're going to get worse.

The Sony Pictures cyber attackers are doing everything they can to inflict damage on the company. They have released films, emails, medical records, and all sorts of confidential data, and are making threats of physical attacks in conjunction with the release of The Interview, a comedy about the attempted assassination of the North Korean president. On Wednesday, Sony canceled the Dec. 25 release of the movie after theater chains said they would not show the film because of the threats.

The Sony breach has the earmarks of a nation-state operation because of its sophistication and ruthlessness, and on Wednesday, U.S security officials told the New York Times they had concluded that North Korea was behind the Sony cyberattacks.

There is also serious speculation that the October attack on JP Morgan Chase, which compromised some 76 million records, was also orchestrated by a nation-state -- possibly a retaliatory move by Russia over Ukraine sanctions. In 2013, the Iranians were blamed for denial-of-service attacks on U.S. banks.

The sources of the JP Morgan and Sony attacks have not been officially confirmed, but Avivah Litan, a security analyst at Gartner, is convinced that what we are seeing is a new type of nation-state attack.

For years, the Eastern Europeans and Russians have been going after point-of-sale systems and credit card processors, and the Chinese have been involved in espionage against private sector firms, Litan said.

"But the big new thing is the nation states," she said. Russia, North Korea and China "are going after private sector companies in a very public way."

Litan said this trend of nation-state attacks will escalate.

"More political differences will be fought in cyberspace, and nation-states will retaliate against U.S. companies to make political points," Litan said.

"Private sector companies are not equipped to deal with the force of the nation states," she said. "They don't have the resources to fight them off. It's a national security issue, and there needs to be a national strategy to try to stop it. "It's really pretty serious," she said.

Litan described what's going on as warfare, and if that's the case, there's evidence that businesses are trying to put their IT security on a war footing.

For example, jobs in cybersecurity are growing. Dice, a technology employment site, said ads for jobs in cybersecurity were the fastest growing in the IT field this month. Compared with December of last year, cybersecurity job ads have increased 77%, from 1,606 to 2,842 as of Dec. 14.

"You can't escape hearing about security breaches in the news today, which is one reason businesses are adding security professionals to their hiring needs for 2015," said Shravan Goli, president of Dice.

In its ongoing surveys, Robert Half Technology, a human resources consulting and staffing firm, asked 2,400 CIOs about the area where they face the most challenge in hiring. In June, security ranked third at 12%, behind applications development and networking, which were both at 17%. But when surveyed again in October, security moved to second place at 15%.

"There is no doubt that IT security has been a rising priority just over the past year and will continue to be a high priority in 2015," said John Longwell, research director of Computer Economics. In 2012, the IT security professional made up about 2% of the typical IT staff. Today, it is about 2.4%, he said.

But Charles Kolodgy, an analyst at IDC, said there is no singular event driving security spending increases.

"The overall threat environment continues to grow, but part of that threat growth is predicated on the growth of IT in general," Kolodgy said. Frances Karamouzis, an analyst at Gartner who covers IT services, said that spending on security-related IT services is jumping dramatically. "I would say it's increased over 100% if not more," she said.

Outside services are also expensive, especially when 24/7 coverage is required, and it won't replace the need for companies to hire their own security personnel, Karamouzis said.

Some see the end of 2014 as a preamble to 2015.

The real damage to companies from these big data breaches may arise from the subsequent legal actions.

Steve Hultquist, chief evangelist for RedSeal, a security analytics company, is predicting that cyberattacks next year will create a "security situation that destroys a midsize or large organization."

By "destroy," RedSeal officials mean it could come in the form of negligence damages, which could be truly huge.

Vijay Basani, CEO of EiQ Networks, which provides security intelligence and compliance services, expects to see next year an increasing number of attacks that go beyond simply stealing information.

"We will see additional Sony-like attacks where perpetrators will cause significant business disruption," Basani said. "This will be the result of intruders erasing highly sensitive data, making networks and systems inaccessible, as well as creating fear in employees by threatening to leak personal data."
 
I truly believe some here are missing the point. Yes, Sony ultimately is responsible. It's responsible for caving in to cyber terror and is responsible for the lack of balls it's CEO, CFO, COO, and any CO you can think for not standing up to the little dictator and his regime (speaking of Little Dictator, please google that phrase to see whom in Hollywood once did indeed stand on principal and to whom it was directed at.)

The point I'm making is this: time and again we've seen the current occupier of the Oval Office give in to tyrants and thugs alike. Does it surprise anyone that a rogue, terroristic regime (incidentally, Obama's own state department recognizes North Korea as such) would attack an entity within the U.S. without the certainty that no repercussions would follow? Absolutely not. The present administration has freed terrorist bent on the destruction of the U.S., just yesterday in a hostage/spy swap Obama turned loose three Cuban's this country had imprisoned for years. Next the U.S. will send billions of dollars to Cuba that'll wind up lining the pockets of Raul Castro. But I digress. Whether it be militant muslims, criminals from Mexico or Central America, communistic Cubans or insane NORKS, this president and his bleeding heart buddies turn a blind eye to the threat cast upon the United States. Again, does it really surprise anyone the immunity thrown at these political states when they all too realize that absolutely no retribution is forthcoming? No, it doesn't. Is Sony also to blame? Yep, and I might be wrong but I haven't heard the NORK's dictating conditions to Japan...only so far to a gutless United States.
 
@Boce Wow dude. Asking someone to look at facts instead of rumors is pretty reasonable. Chill the hell out. And posting an article that is full of speculation, unconfirmed rumors, and possible predictions proves nothing. Posting something that actually has confirmed proof and backing however would.

That said yes companies are under attack not just nationally but internationally. Considering the US has done the same with being caught spying on others they have no room to talk. As they said at the time everyone is spying on everyone on the basis of safety. Not shocking they are doing it back.


@Eye If NK actually thought they could attack anyone without retribution they would have already. Plain and simple. They would have attacked us and South Korea and so on. They dont because they know they would be crushed and put out to pasture. Would the US be any good at giving them a better government after the fact, no, but that's besides the point. They dont attack and send out threats to swing their dick around like a teenager cause it makes them feel strong. Thats it. Thats why they do testing attacks and set off bombs but never actually bomb anyone. Its posturing. And NK is hardly the first ones to do it. It's pathetic as hell but they honestly get their way sometimes when they do it. Not just by us but others as well.

Also just cause the president doesnt sit you down and tell you all he is doing hardly shows he is turning a blind eye to it. He's just not showing his cards which is what he should be doing I feel. Keep it close to the vest of what you know. He should keep his mouth shut about stuff and keep a publicly friendly front. You know what he wants you to know. And if you havent read about Japan and Korea having issues and making threats to each other it's cause you have chosen so. They have had huge battles publicly threatening each other. We are not the only ones NK has threatened.
 
After the initial reviews, it doesn't look like the world of cinema has suffered a great loss. In any event, Sony is a for-profit corporation. They would have been accused of ignoring a real and present danger to its customers if anything had happened during a showing. Now they are accused of being cowards pulling a shitty movie from circulation. Either way, they couldn't win. They chose the, by far, lesser of two evils, and did the courageous thing.
 
Teagan I don't say this near enough, come to think about it I don't believe I've ever told you this, but I respect your opinion more than you could ever know; thank you for adding to this discussion. In 2013 NK did launch a cyber attack on South Korea...North Korea remains on the face of the earth. Maybe you know but I don't, but what did the present administration do in support of South Korea following that attack? The Ft. Hood shootings were a terroristic act; the Boston bombing was a terroristic act; the murders of four Americans in Benghazi, a terroristic act. The current assault on the 1st Amendment was a cyber terrorist act.

IMO, and that's all it is-my opinion, Americans have never been more vulnerable in the 238 years of this country's existence. The fact that North Korea, North FREAKING Korea, can successfully flush our 1st Amendment down the shitter and this president doesn't do a damn thing about it scares the hell out of me.
 
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Teagan I don't say this near enough, come to think about it I don't believe I've ever told you this, but I respect your opinion more than you could ever know; thank you for adding to this discussion. In 2013 NK did launch a cyber attack on South Korea...North Korea remains on the face of the earth. Maybe you know but I don't, but what did the present administration do in support of South Korea following that attack? The Ft. Hood shootings were a terroristic act; the Boston bombing was a terroristic act; the murders of four Americans in Benghazi, a terroristic act. The current assault on the 1st Amendment was a cyber terrorist act.

IMO, and that's all it is-my opinion, Americans have never been more vulnerable in the 238 years of this country's existence. The fact that North Korea, North FREAKING Korea, can successfully flush our 1st Amendment down the shitter and this president doesn't do a damn thing about it scares the hell out of me.
Like the other Bill of Rights, the First Amendment is not about foreign governments or even individuals or companies. The First Amendment protects us from OUR government encroaching on our freedom of speech and religion. Let's say a model, in her chat room, tells members they may NOT discuss apple pie. She's perfectly within her rights, her chat room members are NOT protected from her censoring them.

Just a point of discussion.
 
eyeteach said:
IMO, and that's all it is-my opinion, Americans have never been more vulnerable in the 238 years of this country's existence. The fact that North Korea, North FREAKING Korea, can successfully flush our 1st Amendment down the shitter and this president doesn't do a damn thing about it scares the hell out of me.

In what way, exactly, has anyone's right to free speech been infringed upon here at all, let alone in a way that would violate the first amendment?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

What do you expect Obama to do about the fact that a private entity has freely made a profit-motivated decision based on no actual credible threat to do what they want with their own intellectual property? I am... really not sure what people want in this situation.
 
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