Sony Caves To Threats & Pulls Movie

[Bocefish]

I mean you're bringing up healthcare?! Really. Lemme just say anyone could have kept their health plans just fine had the companies have worked with the new rules and went with it.

Apparently it wasn't OBVIOUS enough the only reason I brought that up was for examples of his lies, deceit and manipulation. Keep on drinking his koolaid if ya want to and, oh, Obamacare isn't really a tax either. :shhh:

 

[Teagan]

I mean you're bringing up healthcare?! Really. Lemme just say anyone could have kept their health plans just fine had the companies have worked with the new rules and went with it.

Apparently it wasn't OBVIOUS enough the only reason I brought that up was for examples of his lies, deceit and manipulation. Keep on drinking his koolaid if ya want to and, oh, Obamacare isn't really a tax either. :shhh:

We'll just have to respectfully agree to disagree again

I thought it was obvious as hell as soon as he came out with the plan that to try and pull things companies would cause issues on purpose with people. And they did. I called it months in advance and it happened lol. Had they of sacked up and thought for one second of people in America rather than the bottom dollar it would have went smoothly as hell. With the exception of the website obviously :lol: And had republicans not had their head up their ass and been butt hurt over losing an election they would not have lobbied companies to not work with the health care plan.

But yeah that's not him lying or deceiving. That's actually the proof of the other side pulling dirty tricks to try to make it look like it though and sure enough it works on some people. Sad. Some will focus on the little pieces of a puzzle rather than looking back at the whole picture. Sure the sky can be infuriating at times, i mean its all damn blue, but the reality is the whole damn puzzle is a giant mess of crap pieces that dont fit or work. Get it? Im not drinking Obama kool aid, I hate both sides equally for their crap. I just know who to blame for what instead of looking only at the sky pieces.

Both sides lie. Through their teeth. Both sides deceive. Wrongfully so. Both sides manipulate. They play tricks. They use ploys. They use scare tactics and smoke screens and oh look over here at this hat and don't see the bunny i'm putting behind my back that's gonna pop out in a second. Its disgusting. I love Politics myself but i'm not blind to the awful things that is accustomed along with it. Ive worked the poles for years even. I seriously love politics and world issues and all that stuff. Im not on either side you see, im on my side. And my side sees the whole crap puzzle that has nothing but wrong pieces, and my side sees the rabbit being shoved in a sleeve before it pops out of the hat. I make my own damn kool aid buddy and its delicious and without either sides poison. I think before I speak, I research my own facts before conclusion, and I never believe without question. That my friend is the side i'm on.

I will defend Obama when I see him blamed for things he has no control over or no say in. I hated Bush personally as I thought he was a moron, like actually a stupid human being in life, but not every thing was his fault. Hate Obama if you want but really he's has nothing to do with a lot of things he gets blamed for. It's like me saying well I hate pecans so it's pecans fault for Sony getting hacked. Damn pecans better do something about it too or else it's a whimpy lying nut and i'm gonna hate it even more. Sounds crazy right? I mean it's just a nut. It could not possibly have prevented a cyber attack on a company nor could it really do anything now about it. Well pecan=Obama. I can still hate pecans for my own reasons but it's not to smart to just make up reasons and blame them for things they have nothing to do with. There's plenty of legit reasons to hate pecans anyway so i'll stick with those. :twocents-02cents:

 

[weirdbr]

Add to the fact that NK is asking for the FBI to work with them as well to clear their name on all of this... even more fishy smell to me. Tingle tingle.

Well, NK has a history of doing that sort of thing when they are caught doing something stupid ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ROKS_Cheon ... orth_Korea for example ) . It might be that the regime as a whole (AKA the people at the top) didn't order it, but maybe an underling trying to earn favor with Kim decided to do it and now they are a bit into damage control mode.

Honestly, the evidence that the FBI released is limited, but that is the case on most hacking attacks - usually you don't publicize all the details because some of them are obtained in ways that fall in legal grey areas (for example, in one case I am aware of: company A was hacked; they found the intrusion, reverse-engineered the attack, found the command and control servers.. Then hacked them and took them over to disable the attack. In this case, the servers were owned by company B which had been hacked to being with, but company A could be sued for hacking systems owned by company B , even though they were doing it for a good cause).

 

[Bocefish]

I mean you're bringing up healthcare?! Really. Lemme just say anyone could have kept their health plans just fine had the companies have worked with the new rules and went with it.

Apparently it wasn't OBVIOUS enough the only reason I brought that up was for examples of his lies, deceit and manipulation. Keep on drinking his koolaid if ya want to and, oh, Obamacare isn't really a tax either. :shhh:

We'll just have to respectfully agree to disagree again

I thought it was obvious as hell as soon as he came out with the plan that to try and pull things companies would cause issues on purpose with people. And they did. I called it months in advance and it happened lol. Had they of sacked up and thought for one second of people in America rather than the bottom dollar it would have went smoothly as hell. With the exception of the website obviously :lol: And had republicans not had their head up their ass and been butt hurt over losing an election they would not have lobbied companies to not work with the health care plan.

But yeah that's not him lying or deceiving. That's actually the proof of the other side pulling dirty tricks to try to make it look like it though and sure enough it works on some people.

Yeah, it's all the other side's fault, pulling dirty tricks and such. :lol:

Ive worked the poles for years even.

Quoted solely for the cheap little laugh it gave me

I will defend Obama when I see him blamed for things he has no control over or no say in. I hated Bush personally as I thought he was a moron, like actually a stupid human being in life, but not every thing was his fault. Hate Obama if you want but really he's has nothing to do with a lot of things he gets blamed for. It's like me saying well I hate pecans so it's pecans fault for Sony getting hacked. Damn pecans better do something about it too or else it's a whimpy lying nut and i'm gonna hate it even more. Sounds crazy right? I mean it's just a nut. It could not possibly have prevented a cyber attack on a company nor could it really do anything now about it. Well pecan=Obama. I can still hate pecans for my own reasons but it's not to smart to just make up reasons and blame them for things they have nothing to do with. There's plenty of legit reasons to hate pecans anyway so i'll stick with those. :twocents-02cents:

I never blamed Obama for the cyber attack, just his typical lack of leadership on the issue, his lies and his weird aversion to use the word terrorism when it fits the situation.

 

[Teagan]

Very true @weird. Their history says a lot about them. It could have been an underling who put the order through like you said. Considering that happens all the time here it's very possible and Un doesn't have a clue about it. Or just come crazy citizens or supporters of the regime from there did it on their own accord. Or NK could be so bloated up and full of themselves they think they are so smart we couldn't possibly catch them. Theres really a lot of possibilities.

I fully get they can not disclose all the details and support that but before confirming it's them I think most people need more than old IPs and how it was looked to be done to believe it was truly them. I mean just saying we believe it was them made NK now actually issue threats to us if we retaliated for it. If we wanna do a thing about it they have to release definitive proof or we look like asses doing anything.

@Boce The issue you specifically brought up was peoples plans being cancelled. Considering that was solely done by insurance companies to keep profits but mostly to cause issues that were reported on, yes that was the other sides fault. I know there were other issues and things not done right, but on that one it was republicans and lobbyists who made sure something bad happened with it all.

I still dont see how on earth it can be described as terrorism though. Nor what he could possibly do to anyone without and definitive proof it was them. He cant just go bomb them or restart the war with them over this. I mean really. We have no clue if they truly did anything and reacting before that is just ignorant.

I did walk into the pole thing though and you caught it so for that you get a like

 

[Bocefish]

I still dont see how on earth it can be described as terrorism though. Nor what he could possibly do to anyone without and definitive proof it was them. He cant just go bomb them or restart the war with them over this. I mean really. We have no clue if they truly did anything and reacting before that is just ignorant.

Terrorism is only effective when it alters behavior.

The degree to which we are vulnerable is a well guarded secret, although I suspect it's far more of an issue than the general public would like to believe.

I did walk into the pole thing though and you caught it so for that you get a like

Nice to see you have a good sense of humor

 

[Sevrin]

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[ACFFAN69]

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Now THAT would make for a good movie.
I'm straight and all, but I'd totally watch every minute of that video.