The Conspiracy Thread

[eyeteach]

Inspired by Faye_Galore and dedicated to lilithxlove...
I give you "The Conspiracy Thread." Or rather, some things I just don't believe to be true:

1. Crop circles are the work of aliens with intelligence beyond our understanding. Bullshit. Someone please explain to me how aliens can be so damn smart to make crop circles we can't comprehend yet when they cross the border the only jobs they can get are sheet rocking, maid services, or picking tomatoes out in the fields in Oxnard.
2. The U.S. never set foot on the surface of the moon; the moon landings were actually filmed on some backlot in Hollywood or at night in the Arizona desert. Again, I call bullshit. Ever notice that the geniuses who claim such "facts" are westerners and not from some country like, oh I don't know, RUSSIA??? Seriously dude, if we hadn't landed on the moon the fucking rooshkies would've paraded down Red Square declaring to all the world how the Apollo missions were staged...they never have and we did go to the moon.
3. George Bush had a weather machine and used it to create Hurricane Katrina because he hates black people: Ummm, he must hate white folks too because Hurricane Gustav blew half of my damn roof off. Buy a freaking clue people, EVERYONE in New Orleans was warned to get the hell out of there and had the means (one way or the other) to do so.
4. The female erotic spot (the G-spot): I'm not sure if this actually exists or not but am willing, for the sake of science of course, to assist any female in trying to locate her's; any takers? Anyone??? No??? :roll: Shit, I was hoping that would work.

Okay people, what do you have?

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: Inspired by Faye_Galore and dedicated to lilithxlove...

There's a lot of them posted here - https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... 12&t=11071

But I suppose we can start a new one considering that's a year old, but we shall change the topic name.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Re: Inspired by Faye_Galore and dedicated to lilithxlove...

There's a lot of them posted here - https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... 12&t=11071

But I suppose we can start a new one considering that's a year old, but we shall change the topic name.

I think there never was one before this thread and that old link is a conspiracy, so i'm not clicking it. :snooty:

 

[eyeteach]

Okay, I thought of another. The con trails from jet planes cause global warming.

 

[KudosKids]

My favorite conspiracy is The secret societies of higher powers. Claiming that they are the ones that control what our government does and how they control our society with music and television. On one hand these people make really valid points. People are influenced by tv and music. And most mainstream music and tv has sex, drugs or violence involved. Well if you look around, is that not our society? But on the other hand they take it waaay to far. Saying there is a machine out there that controls weather, obama is really the devil, nwo is coming. NWO doesn't even make any sense. No country could possibly function with those plans. It would fail miserably.

 

[jeff98902]

One of my favorite things to do is discuss popular conspiracy theories. :thumbleft:
Here are some favorites in no particular order.

The JFK assassination
Chemtrails.
New World Order. or "shadow governments, Freemasons, and Illuminati".
The Roswell UFO Incident. and UFO's in general.
September 11, 2001 Attacks.
Area 51 Nevada.
Also Crypto-Zoology. BigFoot, Sasquatch,Yeti. And The Loch Ness monster.

It fascinates me that some people can believe in these conspiracy's so strongly.

 

[SaffronBurke]

Pop musicians are Illuminati and they're trying to control our kids.

Please. All the "Illuminati" stuff that they put in their videos is for publicity. If you're bitching about an artist, you're still talking about them, drawing attention to them, and drawing traffic to their videos. Kids will want to listen to it because their parents don't want them to. The bigger the outrage that the artists make, the more attention, publicity, and money they get. Putting Illuminati symbolism everywhere is pretty much a guarantee that you'll get a lot of attention.

 

[Poker_Babe]

OK so just to keep things interesting, here's some "conspiracy theories" that actually turned out to be true:

The Tuskegee Syphilis Study: The United States Public Health Service carried out this clinical study on 400 poor, African-American men with syphilis from 1932 to 1972. During the study the men were given false and sometimes dangerous treatments, and adequate treatment was intentionally withheld so the agency could learn more about the disease. While the study was initially supposed to last just six months, it continued for 40 years. Close to 200 of the men died from syphilis or related complications by the end of the study.




MK-ULTRA: In the 1950s to the 1970s, the CIA ran a mind-control project aimed at finding a “truth serum” to use on communist spies. Test subjects were given LSD and other drugs, often without consent, and some were tortured. At least one man, civilian biochemist Frank Olson, who was working for the government, died as a result of the experiments. The project was finally exposed after investigations by the Rockefeller Commission.




Operation Paperclip: Operation Paperclip was the code name for the 1945 Office of Strategic Services, Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency recruitment of German scientists from Nazi Germany to the U.S. after VE Day. President Truman authorized Operation Paperclip in August 1945; however he expressly ordered that anyone found “to have been a member of the Nazi party and more than a nominal participant in its activities, or an active supporter of Nazi militarism” would be excluded. These included Wernher von Braun, Arthur Rudolph and Hubertus Strughold, who were all officially on record as Nazis and listed as a “menace to the security of the Allied Forces.” All were cleared to work in the U.S. after having their backgrounds “bleached” by the military; false employment histories were provided, and their previous Nazi affiliations were expunged from the record. The paperclips that secured newly-minted background details to their personnel files gave the operation its name.

1919 World Series Conspiracy: The 1919 World Series (often referred to as the Black Sox Scandal) resulted in the most famous scandal in baseball history. Eight players from the Chicago White Sox (nicknamed the Black Sox) were accused of throwing the series against the Cincinnati Reds. Details of the scandal remain controversial, and the extent to which each player was involved varied. It was, however, front-page news across the country when the story was uncovered late in the 1920 season, and despite being acquitted of criminal charges (throwing baseball games was technically not a crime), the eight players were banned from organized baseball (i.e. the leagues subject to the National Agreement) for life. There are hundreds of other conspiracies involving throwing games, sporting matches and large scale entertainment events. It is common knowledge for many, this list would have to go into the thousands if we included all of them.

CIA Drug Running in LA: Pulitzer Prize Award winning journalist Gary Webb exposed this alongside LAPD Narcotics Officer turned whislteblower and author Michael Ruppert, CIA Contract Pilot Terry Reed, and many others. In August 1996 the San Jose Mercury News published Webb’s “Dark Alliance”, a 20,000 word, three-part investigative series which alleged that Nicaraguan drug traffickers had sold and distributed crack cocaine in Los Angeles during the 1980s, and that drug profits were used to fund the CIA-supported Nicaraguan Contras. Webb never asserted that the CIA directly aided drug dealers to raise money for the Contras, but he did document that the CIA was aware of the cocaine transactions and the large shipments of cocaine into the U.S. by the Contra personnel. “Dark Alliance” received national attention. At the height of the interest, the web version of it on San Jose Mercury News website received 1.3 million hits a day. According to the Columbia Journalism Review, the series became “the most talked-about piece of journalism in 1996 and arguably the most famous—some would say infamous—set of articles of the decade.”

Counter Intelligence Programs Against Activists in the 60s: COINTELPRO (an acronym for Counter Intelligence Program) was a series of covert, and often illegal, projects conducted by the United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) aimed at investigating and disrupting dissident political organizations within the United States. The FBI used covert operations from its inception, however formal COINTELPRO operations took place between 1956 and 1971. The FBI’s stated motivation at the time was “protecting national security, preventing violence, and maintaining the existing social and political order.” According to FBI records, 85% of COINTELPRO resources were expended on infiltrating, disrupting, marginalizing, and/or subverting groups suspected of being subversive, such as communist and socialist organizations; the women’s rights movement; militant black nationalist groups, and the non-violent civil rights movement, including individuals such as Martin Luther King, Jr. and others associated with the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, the Congress of Racial Equality, the American Indian Movement, and other civil rights groups; a broad range of organizations labeled “New Left”, including Students for a Democratic Society, the National Lawyers Guild, the Weathermen, almost all groups protesting the Vietnam War, and even individual student demonstrators with no group affiliation; and nationalist groups such as those “seeking independence for Puerto Rico.” The other 15% of COINTELPRO resources were expended to marginalize and subvert “white hate groups,” including the Ku Klux Klan and National States’ Rights Party. The directives governing COINTELPRO were issued by FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who ordered FBI agents to “expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, or otherwise neutralize” the activities of these movements and their leaders.

 

[XxXIndiXxX]

Bohemian Grove is a favourite of mine. US presidents, government officials etc meeting up in the woods every year and performing rituals and ceremonies in front of a giant stone owl. There's lots of theories of human sacrifices and other nasty stuff going on there. But never mind the stuff "they" say goes on there you've got to admit it's just slightly odd that they do have this meeting. What are they NOT telling us? Lol :shock:

 

[Poker_Babe]

Bohemian Grove is a favourite of mine. US presidents, government officials etc meeting up in the woods every year and performing rituals and ceremonies in front of a giant stone owl. There's lots of theories of human sacrifices and other nasty stuff going on there. But never mind the stuff "they" say goes on there you've got to admit it's just slightly odd that they do have this meeting. What are they NOT telling us? Lol :shock:

Here's a good doc on Bohemian Grove:




Oh and here's one that I find really annoying... the Illuminati are really reptilian shape shifting aliens. David Icke is big on pushing that theory.

 

[jeff98902]

The San Francisco Bohemian Club and their retreat in the northern woodlands of California "Bohemian Grove"
is a exclusive male-only club. The night-time Moloch ritual is for all the men to leave all their "Cares" of the real world behind,while at the grove. For all the men to have fun, socialize, and drink copious amounts booze.

Yeah, Right! I am sure that happens to an extent, but these lists of attendees tell another story.
For me there are just to many people of note, for just a big place to party your cares away once a year! :twocents-02cents:

Take a look at the attendance list, and it makes you

http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/saunders/article/Bohemian-Grove-men-only-2355089.php

http://www.lookingglassnews.org/viewcommentary.php?storyid=126

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.fan.john-winston/o70bnW1uVIc

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/210607_bg.html

http://www.sfgenealogy.com/sf/1905b/sfb05a03.htm

And this link has great information about The Bohemian Club In SF and the encampment in the Redwoods.

http://www2.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/bohemian_grove.html

 

[PlayboyMegan]

Bohemian Grove is a favourite of mine. US presidents, government officials etc meeting up in the woods every year and performing rituals and ceremonies in front of a giant stone owl. There's lots of theories of human sacrifices and other nasty stuff going on there. But never mind the stuff "they" say goes on there you've got to admit it's just slightly odd that they do have this meeting. What are they NOT telling us? Lol :shock:

Here's a good doc on Bohemian Grove:




Oh and here's one that I find really annoying... the Illuminati are really reptilian shape shifting aliens. David Icke is big on pushing that theory.

I love getting high and laughing at the Reptilian videos!!
Anyone that's clearly on drugs gets labeled a Reptilian and it cracks me up watching the YouTube videos!!

 

[ACFFAN69]

Pop musicians are Illuminati and they're trying to control our kids.

Please. All the "Illuminati" stuff that they put in their videos is for publicity. If you're bitching about an artist, you're still talking about them, drawing attention to them, and drawing traffic to their videos. Kids will want to listen to it because their parents don't want them to. The bigger the outrage that the artists make, the more attention, publicity, and money they get. Putting Illuminati symbolism everywhere is pretty much a guarantee that you'll get a lot of attention.

I agree with you, but I think there is more to it. Most of the "illuminati" symbolism you see in music is Masonic and has a lot of history behind it. I think it is dropped in intentionally for more then just publicity, but I would also say it is not put in for the devil worshiping nonsense that these videos espouse.

I think that in general Freemasons are the type that are far more likely to get into cultural/artistic/philosophical pursuits and also will go out of their way to make the connections they need to succeed (after all they went out of their way to join a fraternity). After that they will drop hints in their art of what they are attempting to show in the art to add far greater meaning to those that pay attention.

They don't "run the world", they aren't evil, they are just friendly, intelligent guys that enjoy getting drunk and having a good time (ignoring Italy in the 70's of course, that went against what they are about).

 

[SaffronBurke]

Pop musicians are Illuminati and they're trying to control our kids.

Please. All the "Illuminati" stuff that they put in their videos is for publicity. If you're bitching about an artist, you're still talking about them, drawing attention to them, and drawing traffic to their videos. Kids will want to listen to it because their parents don't want them to. The bigger the outrage that the artists make, the more attention, publicity, and money they get. Putting Illuminati symbolism everywhere is pretty much a guarantee that you'll get a lot of attention.

I agree with you, but I think there is more to it. Most of the "illuminati" symbolism you see in music is Masonic and has a lot of history behind it. I think it is dropped in intentionally for more then just publicity, but I would also say it is not put in for the devil worshiping nonsense that these videos espouse.

I think that in general Freemasons are the type that are far more likely to get into cultural/artistic/philosophical pursuits and also will go out of their way to make the connections they need to succeed (after all they went out of their way to join a fraternity). After that they will drop hints in their art of what they are attempting to show in the art to add far greater meaning to those that pay attention.

They don't "run the world", they aren't evil, they are just friendly, intelligent guys that enjoy getting drunk and having a good time (ignoring Italy in the 70's of course, that went against what they are about).

While I know that I can't speak for every, the Freemasons that I know wouldn't do it that much or that blatantly. Several of my Ren Faire buddies are Masons, and while they wear a pin on their hat or shirt, that's it. They don't point it out or draw attention to it.

It's possible that some of the artists are actually Freemasons, but for the most part, it seems that they just jumped on the bandwagon with something that would get them a lot of attention, similar to a couple decades ago when Kabbalah was the big celebrity craze - while some were into it, others were doing it for the publicity.

 

[Poker_Babe]

The majority of Freemasons are pretty innocent and are just in it for the fraternity aspect of it. It's the few that make it to the top levels of the order that are "in the know", imho.
(I know, I know... and I just so happen to be wearing my tin foil hat right as I'm typing this thank you.)

But whether the Freemasons are part of the Illuminati or not, you can't deny that the organization is a very racist one, and has been for hundreds of years.

 

[Nordling]

The majority of Freemasons are pretty innocent and are just in it for the fraternity aspect of it. It's the few that make it to the top levels of the order that are "in the know", imho.
(I know, I know... and I just so happen to be wearing my tin foil hat right as I'm typing this thank you.)

But whether the Freemasons are part of the Illuminati or not, you can't deny that the organization is a very racist one, and has been for hundreds of years.

I'm thinking that racism is in the form of pockets rather than fraternity-wide. Some lodges may be very racist, while others may be completely clear of it. As far as I know, racism isn't institution-wide in freemasonry. It does seem to have a lot of anti-catholic stuff though.

Interesting stuff:

http://www.masonicdictionary.com/racism.html

 

[ACFFAN69]

The majority of Freemasons are pretty innocent and are just in it for the fraternity aspect of it. It's the few that make it to the top levels of the order that are "in the know", imho.
(I know, I know... and I just so happen to be wearing my tin foil hat right as I'm typing this thank you.)

But whether the Freemasons are part of the Illuminati or not, you can't deny that the organization is a very racist one, and has been for hundreds of years.

I'm thinking that racism is in the form of pockets rather than fraternity-wide. Some lodges may be very racist, while others may be completely clear of it. As far as I know, racism isn't institution-wide in freemasonry. It does seem to have a lot of anti-catholic stuff though.

Interesting stuff:

http://www.masonicdictionary.com/racism.html

I agree completely, and further contend it also is how you look at it.
As far as looking strictly at ideology, ritual and teachings; it is devoid of racism. They gladly accept Muslims and consider the Quran to be as important a holy book as any other. If the teachings and beliefs were racist, Prince Hall Freemasonry wouldn't have spread as widely as it did, nor would Sun Yat Sen and the Kuomintang have followed it. If you look at the issue historically though, Prince Hall Freemasonry wouldn't have needed to exist, and finding extremely racist famous writers of Freemasonry like Albert Pike are not difficult (nor are finding extremely racist famous "anyones" in that era).

I liken it to a problem of pointing the finger at the United States and saying that racism is rampant there. "Look how all the historical figures owned slaves, and all the racism that still exists in the South". There is evidence of rampant racism in the US and in Freemasonry, but I think it is just a few bad apples spoiling the bunch.

I find almost all are just in it for the fraternity/connection/fun aspect of it as well, but I rarely find any that do not implement the symbols and art in their life in some ways.

I can't argue that misogyny is rampant in the core teachings and current lodges though, although I wish I could.

 

[KudosKids]

Now I've heard this a few times on the thread. Are there models that really tip themselves?!?! Unless this girl is a super famous porn star that I have never heard of. I don't understand how a new model got to number 5 on miss mfc that quick with her new model lingo still on and a 16k cam score. Her profile looks like she has been planning this for months. I mean I've seen models excel really quickly on mfc. But that just seems fake not luck. It seems to planned. Like maybe she stupidly invested all her savings into becoming a top model on mfc. As far as I can tell in the 20 minutes I've been in her room there are no big tippers just a 10tk or 20tk tip here and there. I havent heard any ninja tips. Every other member seems to be buying into it. But I'm sorry, I like my top models because I knew it took dedication and creativity to get there, they have mastered the art of camming. They worked for it. I don't like cheaters. And this just seems cheating. Sorry if I am out of line.

 

[KudosKids]

nvm, I guess she is a old model that created a new account

 

[ACFFAN69]

If ever I wanted a conspiracy theory to be true, this one is probably the one I want:

Video offers “irrefutable proof” that Bill Hicks is Alex Jones:
http://www.avclub.com/article/video-off ... jon-212279

French poet Charles Baudelaire famously wrote that “the devil’s finest trick is to persuade you that he does not exist,” which people most likely recall from Verbal Kint paraphrasing it in The Usual Suspects when referring to his employer Keyser Soze. What follows is a decades-old spoiler alert so be warned: It turns out that Verbal Kint is Keyser Soze, and if that is news then perhaps you aren’t that in touch with pop culture.

In order to hide in plain sight one must not simply adopt a look and name different than those which they seek to conceal, but to actively misdirect the observer like an expert magician. Hence Soze takes on the persona of Kint, with his limp and soft-spoken demeanor, subverting the attention of the law, just like how lizard people pretend to be our politicians in order to run the government.

If then, someone like the late Bill Hicks, a famously acid-tongued stand-up comedian and social critic, wanted to disappear while remaining in the public eye, perhaps the easiest way to achieve this would be by becoming a conspiracy theory-touting right wing media host. Too crazy an idea to even consider?

Poor sheeple, how you have been deceived. According to a new video that you can watch on the Internet (or alternately listen to on the radio in your teeth), Hicks—who passed away in 1994 due to pancreatic cancer—was in fact actually conscripted by the CIA, brainwashed, and now operates as lachrymose agent of agitprop Alex Jones. Misdirection, see? It makes perfect sense.

Hicks and Jones admittedly do share a passing similarity in looks, and both are given to passionate oratory, but Hicks existed on a wildly different side of the political divide than Jones. It also bears repeating that Hicks died 20 years ago, while Jones is a person who is alive, but don’t let’s get bogged down with such “red herring” details. Have you studied their teeth?

The video operates on several levels, acting as an unveiling of a Hicks-as-Jones conspiracy, taking aim at the purported one world government, all while smearing Jones, insinuating him as merely a puppet of the same government he claims to rail against. However if it should accomplish anything, it should be to remind us of the unfiltered brilliance of Hicks, whose comedy is still vibrant and important 20 years after his death. Oh, and also that the Internet is literally populated by insane people.

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Edit: Alex Jones response, the plot thickens!

 

[bodisha]

Bohemian Grove is a favourite of mine. US presidents, government officials etc meeting up in the woods every year and performing rituals and ceremonies in front of a giant stone owl. There's lots of theories of human sacrifices and other nasty stuff going on there. But never mind the stuff "they" say goes on there you've got to admit it's just slightly odd that they do have this meeting. What are they NOT telling us? Lol :shock:

How I heard about Bohemian Grove was reading a quote from Richard Nixon about it:

"The Bohemian Grove, that I attend from time to time—the Easterners and the others come there—but it is the most faggy goddamn thing you could ever imagine, that San Francisco crowd that goes in there; it's just terrible! I mean I won't shake hands with anybody from San Francisco."—President Richard M. Nixon on the Watergate tapes

This is what Bill Clinton had to say about them when a heckler was yelling at him about various conspiracy theories:

"The Bohemian club! Did you say Bohemian club? That's where all those rich Republicans go up and stand naked against redwood trees, right? I've never been to the Bohemian club but you oughta go. It'd be good for you. You'd get some fresh air."—President Bill Clinton

 

[ACFFAN69]

USPS is in fact the true brains behind silk road, Agora and all the other drug markets. They worked indirectly with the NSA to complete this task.
This is the only thing keeping the mail system relevant in the united states. Open your eyes!!!!!

Okay, maybe I just made this up in my completely inebriated state, but it would be the most amazing and hilarious conspiracy theory ever. Clearly overtaking the proven conspiracy that the CIA was selling drugs (In the USA) for funding their activities.

 

[Poker_Babe]

 

[zippypinhead]

The Pentagon says Putin has Asperger's. This has inspired a new theory in me:

What if all despots aren't insane monsters at all, but rather land somewhere on the autism spectrum? Certainly would explain a lot of really odd behavior.

 

[Sevrin]

The Pentagon says Putin has Asperger's.

The article does not exactly say that.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

The Pentagon says Putin has Asperger's.

The article does not exactly say that.

It would help explain Rubles worth one and a half pennies U.S..

 

[zippypinhead]

The Pentagon says Putin has Asperger's.

The article does not exactly say that.

That's the fun of conspiracy theories. I get to compose elaborate fictions to explain the world, all based upon spurious information.