The Real Stalking Thread.

[CallMeWilliam]

As an aside to the taking posts to seriously, it is a good rule of thumb on internet forums to attack the post not the poster. Many forums will have this as a rule. If you disagree with a post someone has made, say all you want about the specific post, but if you use personal insults to disagree then you are out of bounds. In other words, call the comment stupid all you like but not the person who made the comment. :twocents-02cents:

Sorry I don't see a difference; a persons comments are in a lot of ways a reflection of their opinions in most cases. If you attack the post most people will take it as a personal attack on them regardless of the "rules" of the forum.

:twocents-02cents:

 

[LiLredhairedgrl]

Anyone want cookies?

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Back on the actual subject....

No I have not been stalked though I did once take a chance on a member and met up with him/dated him briefly, he then did a bit of a 1/80 and seemed to lose the plot and got really really weird. Because he'd seemed so normal before it was pretty creepy, he then did several pretty twattish things, I broke it off with him, put him on ignore on mfc and got rid of ways he could contact me. He started texting me while he was obviously lurking in my room as a guest every night. One night I was on skype and hadn't blocked him yet and he kept messaging me, stupidly I replied, at this point I hadn't realised just how weird he was getting. He convinced me to go on a skype phone call with him because he had something to tell me, which was that apparently he'd put a virus on my computer meaning he had access to all of my passwords/information, the reason my internet wasn't working at home and I had to work at my mums was because he'd broken it to stop me from working, he said I'd have to change phone numbers to ever get rid of him as he'd never stop calling/texting my phone. He said he had my bank account information and could take money out of it. He said that he was feeling very stalkerish and basically threatened that if I stopped contacting him/speaking to him he'd release my real name and address to myfreecams and implied he would do worse than that. He said that I had to stop working on myfreecams, that I was no longer allowed to work on "his site" and said he could hack onto the site and stop me working there. He also said he had hacked into my router so could turn my internet off and on whenever he wanted to.
He started harassing a few regulars about the fact that I wouldn't talk to him anymore.

As he was saying all this I could see him on skype, he literally looked dead. Like there was no life in his eyes, was the creepiest thing ever. And he kept saying he was doing it for me, that he had to show me never to date a member or trust anyone from the internet.

I called the police, spoke to them, got them to put it on record and phone him up to tell him to leave me alone. He told the police officer that I'm crazy... then sent a text message to me straight after saying "bad move treacleface, lets step this game up"
I called the police officer back and she left an answer phone message for him again, saying to leave me alone. He backed off after that and I haven't heard from him since. Though a few members did come into my room recently asking if I'd dated said member so he's obviously bragged about it.
He had broken my internet, I don't think he'd done any of the other things though. As I said to him at the time, if he wanted to share my info there's absolutely nothing I could do to stop him, but if he were the sort of person to potentially endanger me just out of maliciousness then I'd rather take my chances with the whole of myfreecams knowing who I am than to spend anymore time speaking to him.

Not really a stalker, I'm pretty sure he was just trying to scare me as much as possible, but a situation that could have got a lot worse. I was so disgusted by the idea of men after him that when I went out with my friend one night the last day he'd ever sent me a message I literally ran from any guy acting remotely forward/creepy, because of this I ended up speaking to a guy who I usually wouldn't bother hanging out with after a total creep being forward with me and my friend disappearing on the dancefloor, and that's how I ended up meeting my current boyfriend.
So as much as it was a bad experience because of my state of mind afterwards it got me into the best place I've ever been in my life.

 

[jblackbean2]

Is this the wrong thread to announce that i have 26 pictures on my wall of Models?

I think the stalker one is borderline. Can it be stalkerish to await for a Model to come online as you want a chat and catch up? Is it stalkerish to Dream about that Model.

Obviously there is a line. Models should protect themselves. i often check out new models profiles and amazon wishlists. Not that i want to Stalk them but i pm them and give them a friendly reminder that there RL name and adress is actually posted on amazon. Most say Thank you and look and research more into how to remove it. I also offer them to join this forum as i know there is a section for Models to get advice from other Models.

Jblackbean2

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I think the stalker one is borderline. Can it be stalkerish to await for a Model to come online as you want a chat and catch up? Is it stalkerish to Dream about that Model.

No I think that's how myfreecams is designed, just in the way that facebook is designed to allow people to "stalk" their friends freely, as in check up on what they've been up to, see their photos without actually having to interact with them. But checking out a load of photos/keeping updated on someone you don't know that well who's on your friendslist isn't actually stalking, what would be stalking would be using that information to track them down and follow them, or if they had never actually accepted you as a friend obsessively watching every feed that they update/adding friends of theirs so you can see more of their profile would be slightly closer, though still not actual stalking.

People enjoy watching other people, we all have slightly obsessive/stalker prone tendencies in certain situations, which is why places like myfreecams bring in so much attention, and also one of the reasons the porn industry is so big. Myfreecams gives people a safe environment where people can watch people, learn stuff about them, "follow" them on twitter (which is clearly another reference to stalking) without having to go through much effort or ever cross boundaries. Just like when people like to learn everything about a celebrity, members can learn lots of info about cam models, except with cam models they can have an even closer relationship to them.

There is also a big difference with someone getting obsessive and actually stalking. Stalking is an action. You can be obsessed, really into/really like a model and it can never go anywhere near stalking. Stalking would be when the model clearly isn't interested/doesn't want a real life relationship with you but you choose to ignore that and pursue her on your own.

 

[jblackbean2]

Stalking would be when the model clearly isn't interested/doesn't want a real life relationship with you but you choose to ignore that and pursue her on your own.

Do you think some models put out the wrong signs? leads people on to come and trace her down?

 

[camstory]

Stalking would be when the model clearly isn't interested/doesn't want a real life relationship with you but you choose to ignore that and pursue her on your own.

Do you think some models put out the wrong signs? leads people on to come and trace her down?

Yes, I think this happens to different degrees, but even if it is as full blown as it might be, it does not justify tracking, or tracing her down. If the Model says hey this is my address and my phone #, call me so we can hook up, then it is not stalking to call her and hook up. Any attempt to get the info on your own is stalking, no matter how much it seems like the Model might be leading you on. It's pretty simple, and using the "she was leading me on" excuese is no different than a guy justifying rape because, "she was dressed like a slut".

 

[camstory]

 

[yossarian]

How can people not comprehend the difference between being a fan and being a stalker?

I mean, I think Jennifer Lawrence is hot and I like her as an actress, but I'm not going to climb into her trash can and start collecting her used dental floss. It's sort of common sense.

EDIT: Which some people do not have. Recognized the crippling naivete as soon as I posted this.

 

[Just Me]

As an aside to the taking posts to seriously, it is a good rule of thumb on internet forums to attack the post not the poster. Many forums will have this as a rule. If you disagree with a post someone has made, say all you want about the specific post, but if you use personal insults to disagree then you are out of bounds. In other words, call the comment stupid all you like but not the person who made the comment. :twocents-02cents:

Sorry I don't see a difference; a persons comments are in a lot of ways a reflection of their opinions in most cases. If you attack the post most people will take it as a personal attack on them regardless of the "rules" of the forum.

:twocents-02cents:

There is a difference, but I understand some people might not feel that way. It is hard to have a discussion or debate if everyone is going to see a disagreement with what they said as a personal attack. Maybe attack was too strong of a word. I know a lot of people are not able to distinguish between them, thus the misunderstandings and hurt feelings that can occur.

 

[camstory]

As an aside to the taking posts to seriously, it is a good rule of thumb on internet forums to attack the post not the poster. Many forums will have this as a rule. If you disagree with a post someone has made, say all you want about the specific post, but if you use personal insults to disagree then you are out of bounds. In other words, call the comment stupid all you like but not the person who made the comment. :twocents-02cents:

Sorry I don't see a difference; a persons comments are in a lot of ways a reflection of their opinions in most cases. If you attack the post most people will take it as a personal attack on them regardless of the "rules" of the forum.

:twocents-02cents:

There is a difference, but I understand some people might not feel that way. It is hard to have a discussion or debate if everyone is going to see a disagreement with what they said as a personal attack. Maybe attack was too strong of a word. I know a lot of people are not able to distinguish between them, thus the misunderstandings and hurt feelings that can occur.

I see the difference, but it can often feel the same, because yes your post are a reflection of you and someone calling a post stupid can feel like they are calling you stupid, but it is a good distinction to keep in mind.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I see the difference, but it can often feel the same, because yes your post are a reflection of you and someone calling a post stupid can feel like they are calling you stupid, but it is a good distinction to keep in mind.

I see the difference too, though I think there's a big difference between disagreeing with someone's post and explaining why they think it's wrong and actually calling it stupid.

I may be very opinionated and often very blunt which could easily offend someone, but I don't think I've ever called someone stupid on here or resorted to name calling (except maybe the occasional troll). I do find it funny sometimes that when I see really pathetic name calling, as in schoolground stuff, it almost always comes from the members. It's funny because most of the members have at least 10 years on me, many will be twice my age or more. I think I've only seen anything like this happen in the models only section like once, and it was one person who got called out very quickly. Are we as models just particularly mature, or maybe on best behaviour as it's our work site, or are members just particularly childish?
Dudes... next time you think of a really childish retort/insult to someone's post maybe think to yourself "am I 13?" if you are not then I suggest you respond to the persons post with a bit more dignity. Rip it to shreds sure, but maybe with a little more sophistication...