AMEN! I'm not exaggerating when I say you should believe about 10% of what you hear from members. If you didn't witness it yourself, assume it didn't happen. It's not always just about watching it unfold, a lot of times they're doing it to gain the favor of the model.It's such a high chance it was a lie fabricated by the member to incite drama. There are so many nutty dudes that really get off on watching that sorta stuff unfold.