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HiGirlsRHot said:
MrRodry said:
PunkInDrublic said:
What a weird thing to complain about. Just don't log on? Not even sure how this is an annoying thing a model does, should be in the annoying member thread.

Weird indeed. I think this dude should just delete his premium account and move on with his life.

Yup and the alcoholic, should stay out of bars and liquors stores and stop buying drinks and the junkie should stop buying heroin or crack and move on with life.
The poor person should just work harder, and the obese person should stop overeating. Life is so simple people should just stop doing things that are bad for them. :( :naughty:

Porn can be addictive and I suspect that camgirl porn is more addictive than most forms.

Bob is right, this is the equivalent of the store clerk selling liquor to the alcoholic after the drunk has asked him to never sell him liquor again.

Except it's not. At the liquor store you can make a decision whether or not to accept this person's money without any effort. In a cam room unless she bans him as he requests she has no control on if he tips her or not (and actually, I've heard that you can tip even while banned). It's not the liquor store owners' responsibility to keep the alcoholic out of the store, but he can choose whether or not to sell to him if he comes in. Neither is it the camgirl's responsibility to keep him out of her room, and she can't refuse to accept his money either. If he gives it to her, it's too late.

Plain and simple, adults should make their own decisions, she is not his mom, she should not be responsible for giving a good god-damn about his porn addiction. Unless he goes to every. single. room. on MFC and requests a ban he will find someplace else to spend his money, if he is truly addicted. And who knows, maybe he's her bread and butter, why would she ban him only to discover the next day that he's continued with his addiction and blowing his metaphorical load in another room and she can no longer eat?

He's being manipulative, if I was in her shoes I'd put him on ignore. Ignore is forever, if not being able to say anything in chat or get any acknowledgment from me at all isn't enough to get him to leave on his own, that's his fault. And if his addiction is sooo bad that he needs to be banned to save himself, he'll probably spend a $1 a month on a VPN to bypass the ban and get himself a new premium account to boot.
 
I find it incredibly annoying when a model doesn't follow through with my food demands...I mean requests. Some models have the gall to say "No" to me (*cough* JJ *cough*). That's just fuckin' unbelievable. If I ask for a fuckin' fajita, gimme me my damn fajita! Got it?!
 
DuoShi said:
I find it incredibly annoying when a model doesn't follow through with my food demands...I mean requests. Some models have the gall to say "No" to me (*cough* JJ *cough*). That's just fuckin' unbelievable. If I ask for a fuckin' fajita, gimme me my damn fajita! Got it?!
BACK THE MOTHER FUCK UP OFF MY GOD DAMNED FAJITAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry4: :angry4: :angry4: :angry4: :angry4:

Sheesh man! SHEEEEESH! You wouldn't like my Gluten free tortillas anyways.

:lol:
 
JoleneBrody said:
DuoShi said:
I find it incredibly annoying when a model doesn't follow through with my food demands...I mean requests. Some models have the gall to say "No" to me (*cough* JJ *cough*). That's just fuckin' unbelievable. If I ask for a fuckin' fajita, gimme me my damn fajita! Got it?!
BACK THE MOTHER FUCK UP OFF MY GOD DAMNED FAJITAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :angry4: :angry4: :angry4: :angry4: :angry4:

Sheesh man! SHEEEEESH! You wouldn't like my Gluten free tortillas anyways.

:lol:
You had me until 'gluten free.'
Must go buy habanero's for fajita's tomorrow now.
 
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After catching up with this discussion (late), I see two schools of thought here: "take responsibility for yourself" versus "help someone out"

Forgive me if i'm misreading anything written, but i'm leaning more toward the unpopular opinion here...

Firstly, true there is a level of responsibility on the member who needs to control his own actions (likely easier said than done in this case), and his inner demons are not of anyone else's responsibility but his own, while a model has the autonomy to submit or decline a member's request much like shopkeepers can choose to proceed or refuse service to any specific customer(s). Granted, the OP could delete his account altogether, but it could be due to a lack of will.

Assuming the OP's situation is completely genuine [without any malicious intent]... As far as i'm reading, the OP is not asking the model for a lifetime commitment to be his personal anti-addiction coach. It would seem a simple ban is a couple clicks away from doing the member a favor. Unless he is happens to ask for a long term commitment (a whole different story), i don't see the issue in a simple gesture that will take a few seconds. In essence, the OP doesn't seem to be asking for much. This is NOT the same as "my best friend died and i need special one-on-one privates to heal the pain" or "i'm gonna troll the shit outta this model, and if she bans me then i win" psychology game. Nor do i believe asking for help as shifting complete onus on the model for the OP's addiction, when the member acknowledges the problem is on him. But if it happens to be any of that, then that's also a different matter. Once again, it's the lack of will that refrains the OP from resorting to the obvious solutions.

It's true that if someone wants to quit smoking or drinking, said individual can't ask every liquor store to stop selling him cigarettes or liquor. However, if that same individual, a friend of yours, asks you to trash his last carton of cigs or dump all the liquor from his cabinets as a simple favor, wouldn't you want to do him that solid for his benefit?
 
mutantdonut said:
After catching up with this discussion (late), I see two schools of thought here: "take responsibility for yourself" versus "help someone out"

Forgive me if i'm misreading anything written, but i'm leaning more toward the unpopular opinion here...

Firstly, true there is a level of responsibility on the member who needs to control his own actions, and his inner demons are not of anyone else's responsibility but his own, while a model has the autonomy to submit or decline a member's request much like shopkeepers can choose to proceed or refuse service to any specific customer(s). Granted, the OP could delete his account altogether, but it could be due to a lack of will.

Assuming the OP's situation is completely genuine... As far as i'm reading, the OP is not asking the model for a lifetime commitment to be his personal anti-addiction coach. It would seem a simple ban is a couple clicks away from doing the member a favor. Unless he is happens to ask for a long term commitment (a whole different story), i don't see the issue in a simple gesture that will take a few seconds. In essence, the OP doesn't seem to be asking for much. This is NOT the same as "my best friend died and i need special one-on-one privates to heal the pain" or "i'm gonna troll the shit outta this model, and if she bans me then i win" psychology game. Nor do i believe asking for help as shifting complete onus on the model for the OP's addiction, when the member acknowledges the problem is on him. But if it happens to be any of that, then that's also a different matter. Once again, it's the lack of will that refrains the OP from resorting to the obvious solutions.

It's true that if someone wants to quit smoking or drinking, said individual can't ask every liquor store to stop selling him cigarettes or liquor. However, if that same individual, a friend of yours, asks you to trash his last carton of cigs or dump all the liquor from his cabinets as a simple favor, wouldn't you want to do him that solid for his benefit?
If someone wants to ban him because of his request, that's fine, I don't think anyone is arguing that. The argument, at least from my point of view is he has no real complaint...she is not obligated to do anything for him outside the scope of her job...which is to entertain people for tokens. You may think, "well if it was me, I'd help him out," and that's fine too. But she isn't you, she can ban him or not for whatever reason she wants, he has no justifiable gripe, which is what this thread is about...justifiable gripes.

For all we know, she decided to NOT ban him because she feels that he needs to learn to be responsible for his own actions...whether that therapy works or not isn't the point...it's her choice.
 
Nordling said:
If someone wants to ban him because of his request, that's fine, I don't think anyone is arguing that. The argument, at least from my point of view is he has no real complaint...she is not obligated to do anything for him outside the scope of her job...which is to entertain people for tokens. You may think, "well if it was me, I'd help him out," and that's fine too. But she isn't you, she can ban him or not for whatever reason she wants, he has no justifiable gripe, which is what this thread is about...justifiable gripes.

For all we know, she decided to NOT ban him because she feels that he needs to learn to be responsible for his own actions...whether that therapy works or not isn't the point...it's her choice.

If that's the case, then that goes back to the models' autonomy thing i mentioned. ...and i misread the argument completely
 
mutantdonut said:
Nordling said:
If someone wants to ban him because of his request, that's fine, I don't think anyone is arguing that. The argument, at least from my point of view is he has no real complaint...she is not obligated to do anything for him outside the scope of her job...which is to entertain people for tokens. You may think, "well if it was me, I'd help him out," and that's fine too. But she isn't you, she can ban him or not for whatever reason she wants, he has no justifiable gripe, which is what this thread is about...justifiable gripes.

For all we know, she decided to NOT ban him because she feels that he needs to learn to be responsible for his own actions...whether that therapy works or not isn't the point...it's her choice.

If that's the case, then that goes back to the models' autonomy thing i mentioned. ...and i misread the argument completely
Admittedly, it's a sensitive topic--we have on one hand a person who is hurting because of an alleged addiction, and on the other, the freedom of someone who MAY be able to help him. I personally don't think she can really help him, ban or not. As some of us discussed earlier, addictions don't go away just because one cache of the "drug" goes away.
 
Nordling said:
mutantdonut said:
Nordling said:
If someone wants to ban him because of his request, that's fine, I don't think anyone is arguing that. The argument, at least from my point of view is he has no real complaint...she is not obligated to do anything for him outside the scope of her job...which is to entertain people for tokens. You may think, "well if it was me, I'd help him out," and that's fine too. But she isn't you, she can ban him or not for whatever reason she wants, he has no justifiable gripe, which is what this thread is about...justifiable gripes.

For all we know, she decided to NOT ban him because she feels that he needs to learn to be responsible for his own actions...whether that therapy works or not isn't the point...it's her choice.

If that's the case, then that goes back to the models' autonomy thing i mentioned. ...and i misread the argument completely
Admittedly, it's a sensitive topic--we have on one hand a person who is hurting because of an alleged addiction, and on the other, the freedom of someone who MAY be able to help him. I personally don't think she can really help him, ban or not. As some of us discussed earlier, addictions don't go away just because one cache of the "drug" goes away.

Agreed... a ban is using a bandaid on a broken leg...

Although, i would still sympathize with the OP, as addiction is tough to break. I believe he's just asking for a seemingly trivial request that takes merely a drop of sympathy and nothing more... nothing that will drain the model emotionally dragged out by the member. Then again, i don't know the whole story and it would be nice to also hear from the model's side, or just the full scope of the situation.
 
Nordling said:
The argument, at least from my point of view is he has no real complaint...she is not obligated to do anything for him outside the scope of her job...which is to entertain people for tokens.

That seems like the entire point of this thread, haha. Models aren't technically obligated to show up on time, be nice on Twitter, leave their countdowns at the same when they log off and log back in (just using some recent examples), but we can still think it's annoying and therefore it belongs here :lol: Either way at least it sparked an interesting discussion!

My annoying model complaint is girls who constantly reply to guys on Twitter (and do it by putting a period before the username so everyone sees it) just to yell at them about their dick pic avatars or shitty English or whatever. It's so negative and I hate seeing my timeline filled with snarky, pointless comments. If they're witty it can be funny occasionally but if it's an all-the-time thing I just wonder why they don't let it go and ignore the guys they don't want to talk to.

Also when girls posts lots of nudes on Tumblr and then yell at guys for liking and not reblogging.
 
Thank you all for your opinions and useful new words. As a non native speaker, I can't make my point any clearer and I don't waste my time judging people either.
Nevertheless I value relations. 2 out of 3 performers have followed my request, personally I don't think they will be too disappointed about me being in their room less frequently while tipping 50% more tokens.
 
mutantdonut said:
After catching up with this discussion (late), I see two schools of thought here: "take responsibility for yourself" versus "help someone out"

Forgive me if i'm misreading anything written, but i'm leaning more toward the unpopular opinion here...

Firstly, true there is a level of responsibility on the member who needs to control his own actions (likely easier said than done in this case), and his inner demons are not of anyone else's responsibility but his own, while a model has the autonomy to submit or decline a member's request much like shopkeepers can choose to proceed or refuse service to any specific customer(s). Granted, the OP could delete his account altogether, but it could be due to a lack of will.

Assuming the OP's situation is completely genuine [without any malicious intent]... As far as i'm reading, the OP is not asking the model for a lifetime commitment to be his personal anti-addiction coach. It would seem a simple ban is a couple clicks away from doing the member a favor. Unless he is happens to ask for a long term commitment (a whole different story), i don't see the issue in a simple gesture that will take a few seconds. In essence, the OP doesn't seem to be asking for much. This is NOT the same as "my best friend died and i need special one-on-one privates to heal the pain" or "i'm gonna troll the shit outta this model, and if she bans me then i win" psychology game. Nor do i believe asking for help as shifting complete onus on the model for the OP's addiction, when the member acknowledges the problem is on him. But if it happens to be any of that, then that's also a different matter. Once again, it's the lack of will that refrains the OP from resorting to the obvious solutions.

It's true that if someone wants to quit smoking or drinking, said individual can't ask every liquor store to stop selling him cigarettes or liquor. However, if that same individual, a friend of yours, asks you to trash his last carton of cigs or dump all the liquor from his cabinets as a simple favor, wouldn't you want to do him that solid for his benefit?

Jolene is right we only have one side of the story, and English is not sanjisan native language so we will likely never get the whole story. While I personally don't think he is being manipulative, I concede that JJ and Stephanie could be right and this could just be a stunt. So lets forget the specific example and ask the general question.

Should models help their regulars who are having an addiction problem with MFC in general or the model in particular overcome their problem when asked, even when the request is going to hurt the model financially?

For the models, imagine instead of being a pretty young cam model, you are pretty young owner of small neighborhood bar. You are making a decent living but ain't getting rich.
Joe is your best customer, he holds his liquor well and is a happy drunk. He is there most everyday, he has big crush you,and tips you very well. You told him you have boyfriend and nothing is every going happen. He has been great about respecting your boundaries. You like the guy and wish you had a dozen customers like Joe.

One day Joe comes early, pulls you aside and says. "I'm an alcoholic, I've going to join AA, and I don't want you to every serve me another drink and please throw me out if I ever come back"
Question: Is Joe being manipulative/unfair making the request?

Two weeks late Joe returns says he had a really rough day, sits down and orders a drink.
Questions:
Do you kick him out, remind him of what he asked you to do, or serve him without saying anything or something else?
Does it matter that there are three other bars on the block?
Which do you think is harder tossing Joe from the bar or banning him from your room?
 
sanjisan said:
Thank you all for your opinions and useful new words. As a non native speaker, I can't make my point any clearer and I don't waste my time judging people either.
Nevertheless I value relations. 2 out of 3 performers have followed my request, personally I don't think they will be too disappointed about me being in their room less frequently while tipping 50% more tokens.

I'm a non native speaker too, high five ;)

2 out of 3 huh? as in you asked 3 model or you asked 30? eitherway, if you're having this problem all over the board (MFC) you might just want to get a plug-in for your browser and block MFC all together?
as I said before, a ban from a model is not forever, and as steph said, you can still easily avoid it. (same as you could just turn off an browser-block) Also, I don't think a addiction is singular to one model, if you're sensitive to it, any of those 1000s of models can get you hooked. (as apparently 3 or more already did.) best thing to do is seek counseling, a coach? and get off MFC!

also, apparently it's not about the tokens? because you're not visiting the rooms but you áre tipping more? that doesnt seem like a good solution for you...
 
HiGirlsRHot said:
mutantdonut said:
After catching up with this discussion (late), I see two schools of thought here: "take responsibility for yourself" versus "help someone out"

Forgive me if i'm misreading anything written, but i'm leaning more toward the unpopular opinion here...

Firstly, true there is a level of responsibility on the member who needs to control his own actions (likely easier said than done in this case), and his inner demons are not of anyone else's responsibility but his own, while a model has the autonomy to submit or decline a member's request much like shopkeepers can choose to proceed or refuse service to any specific customer(s). Granted, the OP could delete his account altogether, but it could be due to a lack of will.

Assuming the OP's situation is completely genuine [without any malicious intent]... As far as i'm reading, the OP is not asking the model for a lifetime commitment to be his personal anti-addiction coach. It would seem a simple ban is a couple clicks away from doing the member a favor. Unless he is happens to ask for a long term commitment (a whole different story), i don't see the issue in a simple gesture that will take a few seconds. In essence, the OP doesn't seem to be asking for much. This is NOT the same as "my best friend died and i need special one-on-one privates to heal the pain" or "i'm gonna troll the shit outta this model, and if she bans me then i win" psychology game. Nor do i believe asking for help as shifting complete onus on the model for the OP's addiction, when the member acknowledges the problem is on him. But if it happens to be any of that, then that's also a different matter. Once again, it's the lack of will that refrains the OP from resorting to the obvious solutions.

It's true that if someone wants to quit smoking or drinking, said individual can't ask every liquor store to stop selling him cigarettes or liquor. However, if that same individual, a friend of yours, asks you to trash his last carton of cigs or dump all the liquor from his cabinets as a simple favor, wouldn't you want to do him that solid for his benefit?

Jolene is right we only have one side of the story, and English is not sanjisan native language so we will likely never get the whole story. While I personally don't think he is being manipulative, I concede that JJ and Stephanie could be right and this could just be a stunt. So lets forget the specific example and ask the general question.

Should models help their regulars who are having an addiction problem with MFC in general or the model in particular overcome their problem when asked, even when the request is going to hurt the model financially?

For the models, imagine instead of being a pretty young cam model, you are pretty young owner of small neighborhood bar. You are making a decent living but ain't getting rich.
Joe is your best customer, he holds his liquor well and is a happy drunk. He is there most everyday, he has big crush you,and tips you very well. You told him you have boyfriend and nothing is every going happen. He has been great about respecting your boundaries. You like the guy and wish you had a dozen customers like Joe.

One day Joe comes early, pulls you aside and says. "I'm an alcoholic, I've going to join AA, and I don't want you to every serve me another drink and please throw me out if I ever come back"
Question: Is Joe being manipulative/unfair making the request?

Two weeks late Joe returns says he had a really rough day, sits down and orders a drink.
Questions:
Do you kick him out, remind him of what he asked you to do, or serve him without saying anything or something else?
Does it matter that there are three other bars on the block?
Which do you think is harder tossing Joe from the bar or banning him from your room?

I'd love to say you're missing the point, but I guess we just have different views on this, so here:

OF COURSE the best and nicest thing to do it give joe a pat on the back, the phonenumber of someone who can help and nót serve him a drink.
but Joe wíll go next door for that drink anyway.
Banning drunks from your bar isnt helping their addiction, if you really want to help someone you could invest time and energy by actually helping them instead of making it not-your-problem. at least by not banning the member you can keep an eye on him.

so if you've got a regular you really care about and he's one day telling you he's got a problem, what do you do? ban him? I don't think so, I think you will at least try to help him/make a deal with him. I have a regular who I know IRL, he has a bit of an obsession with me, not too bad, but it's there. He found me on MFC and since I like him as a person too we made a deal, he's in my room no more than 3 nights a week and doesn't spend more than 200 tokens per month on MFC. he's got his reward points public so I can see if he's falling and help him a bit.
if he fails completely, yes then I will ban him. or call his mom ;)
 
Bullet points, innit!

- I was under the impression that sanjisan's problem was his obsession with one model in particular, and not an addiction to cams in general. That changes things somewhat, and I agree that asking individual models to ban him is pointless. He'd be better served by emailing MFC admin and asking them to block his IP address or calling his credit card company and asking them not to authorise any future transactions with MFC.

- To my mind, this discussion has ultimately been about whether or not a cam girl refusing to ban a member that has requested it can be... maybe not "annoying" per se, but certainly "not model behaviour" (no pun intended... or maybe it is... I don't even know when I'm trying to be punny any more :? ) and I think the answer to that is "yes". I think there are plenty of circumstances under which a model refusing to ban a member even though she knows it might help him, could be viewed as a bit of a shitty thing to (not) do. That's not to say that a model not banning every member who requests it makes her a shitty person though.

- I think the comparison to a shopkeeper selling alcohol to an alcoholic is apt. Yes, a cam girl is powerless to stop an obsessed member from throwing money at her or using a VPN to access her room but when asked by that member to ban them for their own good, the model is presented with a choice to be complicit in that person's addiction or not. They might decide that banning that member will do nothing to deter them, just as a shopkeeper might decide that refusing sale of alcohol to the alcoholic won't stop them from going to another store or asking a passer-by to get it for them; or it might just be that they'd simply rather continue to accept that person's money than not... but either way, they're being asked for help by a fellow human being, and they can choose to do something to help that person (either by banning them from their room or by doing something else) or they can choose to do nothing. I agree they're never obligated to help though.

- I have no idea how many requests to models from members wishing to be banned are from folk who have genuinely and unwittingly gotten in over their heads and view being banned from the model's room as a viable solution to their problem, and how many are from folk who just want to emotionally manipulate the model for funsies and/or sexual gratification. I guess I'd like to think the latter is a rarity but maybe I'm being naïve and giving my fellow pervs too much credit.

- I do agree that whether or not a model refusing to ban a member when it's clear that member is obsessed with them is unethical, it's never that model's responsibility to ensure the emotional well-being of her members.
 
One thing to consider is the after math. Most of you seem to be under the impression that a swift ban is the end all of the situation, but I would say 50% of the time it's just the first step down a road of drama. Ignore feature comes in handy for this one but seems maybe a bit harsh, and I'm under the impression he's wanting to be let back in at some point.

I could be very very wrong here but I pick the vibe up from him that a ban would be far from the end of it. It feels like a first step down a long and annoying "unban me please... BAN ME AGAIN PLEASE... UNBAN ME PLEASE... BAN ME AGAIN PLEASE" path. I did have this requested a few years ago and that's exactly how it went down, it wasn't a quick click... it was a drawn out mess that put me in an emotionally tough spot daily. This was long before the ignore function was actually worth a damn and this member was my friend, I liked him and genuinely wanted him in my room!
Another thing and it's been a very long time but I have had this come up, about 3 years ago. Wanting to be banned so that he couldn't tip for a while, So I agreed to ban him IF he tipped because I wanted him to still hang out, he was fun and awesome. It stung like the dickens when I banned him, it hurt my feelings and and I could see how banning someone you really like in your room and consider a friend could be almost as hard as cancelling your premium account. We form close bonds on MFC with the regular members in our room, we aren't just some emotionless robots who can click the ban button on anyone with no impact on ourselves.

I was going to say the same thing about contacting MFC or the CC company, Bob ya beat me to it! His last post has left me even more confused though so... I'm not even sure we are technically discussing him anymore. :lol:
 
He doesn't want to get banned from MFC, just from the model's room, so that leaves out involving MFC, which will reverse any account deletions or IP restrictions (lol) in a heartbeat, anyway. As far as the CC company goes, that's no kind of permanent either, and would involve not MFC, but CCBill, Netbill and that other payment processor, which means cutting him off most adult sites, in the process.

It looks like he's gonna have to earn his ban honestly.

Step 1: Dick pics
Step 2: ????
Step 3: Ban!
 
JoleneBrody said:
One thing to consider is the after math. Most of you seem to be under the impression that a swift ban is the end all of the situation, but I would say 50% of the time it's just the first step down a road of drama. Ignore feature comes in handy for this one but seems maybe a bit harsh, and I'm under the impression he's wanting to be let back in at some point.

This is exactly what I would expect/worry about--if the situation could be solved by a single click by the model, it could just as easily be solved by a single click to the X in the upper right corner of the member's browser.

Regardless of "how real" said "I want to be banned" member's situation is, this manner of dealing with it seems like a convoluted game in which the model is being pressured/bullied to participate. Even if the member would somehow greatly benefit from the requested ban, the member is essentially asking the model for a service that she isn't offering--placing her in an awkward situation which she must then spend her time/energy debating/dealing with. This is even worse if this is happening while the model is on cam, as it is now taking time away from whatever "normal" activities were occurring/planned. Regardless of the variables (whether the addiction is real, whether the model knows/cares about said member, whether the member will visit other rooms, etc.), this "simple request" seems more like the entrance into a strange, time-consuming cyclical game/role play that will potentially extend inevitably beyond the initial requested ban.

Unless a model has "Tip 100 Tokens to Hang out in my room for weeks as a regular tipper Until you tip 50 to Be banned forever so I can save you from your addiction" in her topic already--I think this whole way of going about things is completely inappropriate. Tipping for any request (even something stupid) BEFORE finding out if it's something the model is agreeable with is a silly and rude practice. *Joe tips 50 tokens "Blow your Nose for me BB" -- But I don't want to blow my nose on cam -- "But it's just blowing your nose! I teeeeped!"

While the liquor store and bar regular analogies are interesting to think about, there is a huge difference between someone physically coming into the building of your business and you allowing them the means to get intoxicated vs. an internet account "visiting" a chat room on a large website. In the case of serving/selling liquor, there are all kinds of legal stipulations (at least where I live) governing how/when liquor can be sold to customers which extends to an actual legal responsibility. While a model might choose to become invested in a member's internet/MFC addiction, this is a personal choice--not a direct extension of job responsibilities--and certainly not something that is appropriate to blindly request in a tip note.
 
JoleneBrody said:
One thing to consider is the after math. Most of you seem to be under the impression that a swift ban is the end all of the situation, but I would say 50% of the time it's just the first step down a road of drama. Ignore feature comes in handy for this one but seems maybe a bit harsh, and I'm under the impression he's wanting to be let back in at some point.

I could be very very wrong here but I pick the vibe up from him that a ban would be far from the end of it. It feels like a first step down a long and annoying "unban me please... BAN ME AGAIN PLEASE... UNBAN ME PLEASE... BAN ME AGAIN PLEASE" path. I did have this requested a few years ago and that's exactly how it went down, it wasn't a quick click... it was a drawn out mess that put me in an emotionally tough spot daily. This was long before the ignore function was actually worth a damn and this member was my friend, I liked him and genuinely wanted him in my room!

Ughhh yes I went down this same exact road a few years ago.
Except in my case this guy didn't really have an MFC "problem", but he was married and knew his wife wouldn't like him visiting me on MFC so he decided to stop. He sent me an MFC mail explaining the situation and that he would appreciate it if I banned him so he couldn't come back even if he wanted to, so I did exactly as he said.
Until the next week when he came back BEGGING to be let into my room again.
And then the following week he would beg to be banned again.
This went on and on and on.
Not only that, but he was constantly guilt tripping me over it and toying with my emotions. If he tried to come back and I was hesitant about it, the following week when he would leave his reasoning would be "you know I've been thinking and you gave me such a hard time about coming back that I can't help but feel like you don't really want me around...". Then when I would let him back without an argument, when he would eventually leave his reasoning would be "I can't help but feel like you're only in this for the tokens because you let me come back without an issue even though you know this is risky for my marriage".
There was no winning with this guy.
 
I agree with Bob.

I also see agree with both Jolene and Noelle that in many cases, the ban isn't the final step, but just the start of long and painful process. It is also generally an emotional issue because you often may genuinely like the guy. That certainly was the case in my hypothetical, but the internet create an emotional distance, which makes it a lot easier to ban somebody from your room,than the bar owner ejecting her best customer and friend. Easier but not easy. Most interview I've seen with cam models discuss their job as part porn star, part entertainer, part therapist... So in some ways while you don't have legal obligation do it, I do think you should help partly for good Karma , and cause it comes with territory . Plus the part time therapist is why we pay you the big bucks. :lol:

I will say if somebody posted "I asked a model to ban me and now I want her to unban me ". I'd laugh and say "dude you need shrink not a camgirl" So for the nightmare cases you gals described you are a no win situation and you have my sympathy.

On the other hand the guys problem maybe less of porn addiction, than it is an obsession with you and couple other favorite models. In which case some of the time
ban will help and I guess I'd be annoyed if model who says she was my friend wouldn't even try to help me.

In the case of the OP, I actually googled porn addiction treatment, before figuring out that duh english language treatment wouldn't help him. But even in English, treatment for porn addiction isn't easy to find. Certainly nothing like the options available for gambling (you can't walk in or out of casino in Vegas without seeing 800# for gambling help) There are gamblers and alcohol anonymous in practically every city, but not porn. Blocking credit cards is probably your best bet, although that pretty much means no more porn of any kind for you. I'd be shocked if MFC would anything but delete your account. AFAIK MFC doesn't even offer the option to restrict token purchase unlike other sites (unless you consider ~$4k/day a restriction) . The point being there isn't easy solutions.
 
And that's the thing. Addiction or game, a better analogy is if someone on MFC asked a model, "Listen, I want to hit myself in the head with a claw hammer, but if you paint your ears green, I wont. Just use water colors, it won't take any time and you can wash it right off"

Oh, and if she doesn't he can call her rude, unfair, heartless, etc.
 
I hate it when girls dont have conversations with there viewers i personally find that good conversation mixed with sexy time makes for a really good time.

also i hate it when girls just sit there naked and expect tips :angry4:
 
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slipmojo69, that's like a MFC Bring-A-Friend link to chaturbate on your signature? I think Amber is the only one allowed to have a baf/affiliate link around here.
 
sanjisan said:
Thank you all for your opinions and useful new words. As a non native speaker, I can't make my point any clearer and I don't waste my time judging people either.
Nevertheless I value relations. 2 out of 3 performers have followed my request, personally I don't think they will be too disappointed about me being in their room less frequently while tipping 50% more tokens.
Waaaaaaaitaminute...

You wanted to be banned from their rooms but are now spending even more tokens on them?

I don't even.
 
AmberCutie said:
sanjisan said:
Thank you all for your opinions and useful new words. As a non native speaker, I can't make my point any clearer and I don't waste my time judging people either.
Nevertheless I value relations. 2 out of 3 performers have followed my request, personally I don't think they will be too disappointed about me being in their room less frequently while tipping 50% more tokens.
Waaaaaaaitaminute...

You wanted to be banned from their rooms but are now spending even more tokens on them?

I don't even.

I know. As if it couldn't get any more confusing.
:confusion-scratchheadyellow:
 
  • Go to start menu
  • type "Notepad" in the search bar
  • Right-click on the "notepad.exe" shortcut and chose "Run as Administrator"
  • In Notepad, open the file "C:\Windows\System32\drivers\etc\hosts"
  • Add this line to the file:
    Code:
    127.0.0.1 myfreecams.com
  • Save & quit

There, there, you're banned. :mrgreen:


(alternatively, delete c:\Windows\System32) and weep
 
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