What Will You Tell Your Children?

[RainbowBryte]

So lead by example, if you feel that there is something wrong or immoral with the line of work you do, and wouldn't want your child to do it... then you shouldn't do it either. Everyone knows that the old "do as I say, not as I do" line is a major cop-out and doesn't cut it.

But if you feel that there is nothing wrong with what you do for a living, then who cares if your kids "googles" your name some time in the future and happens upon your Playboy spread. So what if "others" make you feel like it's something you need to be ashamed of. If you truly believe that there is nothing wrong with what you do, you will have nothing to hide from your kids.

At least that's my :twocents-02cents:

I think what would make me uncomfortable with it is my sons knowing, not my daughters, but to me it seems like a crazy thing to make my sons when they're older imagine that guys are wacking it to me, not that im ashamed but just one of those things I figure as a boy you would not want to know about your mom......dont think its immoral but imagining my parents having sex just grosses me out, lol, dont want to put mine through that, lol.

 

[RainbowBryte]

sorry last annoying post of them day, lol adding onto my last, couldnt edit waited too long

Plus I dont want my boys thinking women are sex objects (please dont misread this I love what I do) but I know that I am seen by plenty as only a "sex object" (mostly guests and basics, lol), But I want my boys to see that women are strong and independent and its not always about sex. Damn that sounds bad, I dont mean that us sexy cam girls arent strong and independent, but kids at a certain age will make assumptions based on societies views totally seperate from what their parents teach them. My kids are so young I dont know how I will feel but at this point I cant imagine telling my sons what I do, my oldest just recently noticed girls have boobs and giggles uncontrollably when he hears the word boob from other kids (he's 6 lol), definitely not mature enough to know what I do, lol

With the girls I may be honest with them quicker than I would be with the boys. But as much as you guys (and girls) might get mad at me I agree with KiraSage "I would raise them to have better opportunities than what I had", I cam cuz I think its awesome to be able to stay at home, choose my hours and masturbate for money, I have no problem in it cuz it doesnt bother me getting naked at a nice safe somewhat anonymous distance on the net, maybe im weird but I find it fun and exciting at times, plus im blessed with an AMAZING man who totally supports me, but I realize my children might not feel the same way as I do, I think every parent strives to provide their kid with better options than they had. No matter how spoiled you were or how awesome your life ended up everyone has been through struggles and once you have kids you want to keep them completely free from sadness or disapointment, so as a good parent even if youve only had one sad moment in your whole life your going to wish for your child to never feel that pain even one time Of course if one of my girls comes forward when they are adults and tells me they are camming I will be supportive,as long as they are doing it for the right reasons, I may even give them some camming tips so they can make more cash

 

[Anonymous]

Sorry for the threadjack, but.....

Poker_Babe, that's AWESOME that you're friends with Ola Ray!

My son and I used to watch the Thriller video ALL THE TIME, and do the dance to it. :-D And Ola Ray is so beautiful.

 

[Anonymous]

When they're older imagine that guys are wacking it to me, not that im ashamed but just one of those things I figure as a boy you would not want to know about your mom......dont think its immoral but imagining my parents having sex just grosses me out.

True!

I agree that it's not about being ashamed. It's just that most normal people don't want a mental picture of their mom plowing that pussy with an 8" dildo. :lol:

I remember when my lil' sis found some toys under my parents' bed. And I had found like 10 bottles of K-Y Jelly in their room. It's like "Uh....." LMAO.

 

[Poker_Babe]

I think what would make me uncomfortable with it is my sons knowing, not my daughters, but to me it seems like a crazy thing to make my sons when they're older imagine that guys are wacking it to me, not that im ashamed but just one of those things I figure as a boy you would not want to know about your mom......dont think its immoral but imagining my parents having sex just grosses me out, lol, dont want to put mine through that, lol.

LOL But I don't think there is one person on the planet who hasn't had the mental vision of their parents "doing it" go through their head and been totally grossed out by it. (except for the sicko's that are into that shit... they wouldn't be grossed out) But we all still eventually had to be informed of how babies (including us) get made... SEXUAL INTERCOURSE. Yeah, it's gross and disturbing when the realization of the fact our parents did/do that, but we get over it.

Now I certainly don't think that you should go into telling your kids any "specifics" of the stuff we do... just like our parents don't go telling us (well at least mine didn't) all the kinky or lack there of details of the shit that they did in the boudoir.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

In reply to pokerbabes post. Would you let your 4year old drink coffee if you did? Would you let her smoke cigs if you did? Would she be able to stay up as late as she wanted? No. I would hope not. Viewing porn underage is no different. Children are NOT adults, and should NOT be treated like they are.

 

[Poker_Babe]

In reply to pokerbabes post. Would you let your 4year old drink coffee if you did? Would you let her smoke cigs if you did? Would she be able to stay up as late as she wanted? No. I would hope not. Viewing porn underage is no different. Children are NOT adults, and should NOT be treated like they are.

Oh I totally agree 100%!!! Children should not be treated like adults and certainly should not be allowed access to porn. My point I was trying to make was that if you don't want your kids to go down the same path, then you should lead by example. Although I don't know if I really consider the photography in Playboy magazines to be "Porno". At least compared to all the other stuff out there. I don't see anything wrong with nude pictures as long as it is tasteful and artistic. And just like, we wait till our children are at the proper age to explain sex to them, I wouldn't recommend just telling our kids at a super young age about our camming careers, or to tell them at all. It all depends on the individual and their situation. You may feel like there is nothing wrong with camming, yet it still might be the best thing to not tell anyone about it.

 

[caireen]

Like Lydia said "I doubt you could make much of a case". Let's not get carried away here, no one has the "right" to a job. I'm no lawyer, but for past jobs I have a lot of experience and training on EEOC and state UI policies and procedures.

Here in the States, unless you have an employment contract or are in a union, in most cases, you are an "At Will" worker. Meaning you work "at the will" of the employer. Your job can be terminated for any reason. The best you could look forward to is UI (unemployment insurance).

Yeah US you can fire or promote someone for whatever reason (or lack thereof) you like, UK, Canada and Australia you'd likely be guilty of Wrongful Dismissal if you terminated someone without notice/benefits for a reason that wasn't directly related to misconduct or the performance of their job.

Yes I don't know much about US law. I'm Canadian, so I'm probably guilty of assuming a lot of things are pretty similar. I tend to forget that the US is quite different.

 

[Poker_Babe]

Like Lydia said "I doubt you could make much of a case". Let's not get carried away here, no one has the "right" to a job. I'm no lawyer, but for past jobs I have a lot of experience and training on EEOC and state UI policies and procedures.

Here in the States, unless you have an employment contract or are in a union, in most cases, you are an "At Will" worker. Meaning you work "at the will" of the employer. Your job can be terminated for any reason. The best you could look forward to is UI (unemployment insurance).

Yeah US you can fire or promote someone for whatever reason (or lack thereof) you like, UK, Canada and Australia you'd likely be guilty of Wrongful Dismissal if you terminated someone without notice/benefits for a reason that wasn't directly related to misconduct or the performance of their job.

Yes I don't know much about US law. I'm Canadian, so I'm probably guilty of assuming a lot of things are pretty similar. I tend to forget that the US is quite different.

I live in California which happens to be an "at will" state. Employers can choose to not hire and/or fire anyone they want, for any reason that want just so long as it doesn't fall under discrimination (ie, can't not hire you because you are black, or fire you because your boss found out that you are gay.). And you can't get fired for getting pregnant, although I do believe that they can choose to not hire you if you are. When you quit a job, your employer has to give you your last pay check no later then 3 days. If you get fired, they have to give you your pay check the same day. If they are late, or say... don't pay you your overtime, underpay you; you can file a claim at the better business bureau. If you win your claim, your former employer must pay you a day and a half's, days wages for every day that you did not get your money.

 

[Bocefish]

I'm not sure Canadian laws are any different. Wish I know how this turned out, but she got suspended from working at a high school as a clerical worker because she was in a porn movie with NaughtySarah who also works on MFC. http://profiles.myfreecams.com/NaughtySarah

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2011 ... 37036.html

ETA: She was fired!

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2011 ... 23486.html

 

[Jupiter551]

Yeah the teachers in porn thing is a grey area I guess...it happens here in Aus too. Also recall seeing a female cop fired because she had been a stripper in the past I think. It's fucked up, but it's just another example of how the adult industry is somehow treated as less-than-human. Can you imagine another (legal) non-sex industry related job that it would be okay to have someone fired for having done in the past? I can't.

 

[Poker_Babe]

I'm not sure Canadian laws are any different. Wish I know how this turned out, but she got suspended from working at a high school as a clerical worker because she was in a porn movie with NaughtySarah who also works on MFC. http://profiles.myfreecams.com/NaughtySarah

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2011 ... 37036.html

ETA: She was fired!

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2011 ... 23486.html

Thanks for the link... This is getting re-posted on The Cam Girl Report along with and future updates. :-D

 

[Jupiter551]

She should have dyed her hair, wore her makeup differently and deny deny deny lol.

 

[Poker_Babe]

She should have dyed her hair, wore her makeup differently and deny deny deny lol.

TOTALLY!!! One would think that if she just stuck to her guns saying that wasn't her in the film, that they would end up believing her.

That reminds me of this one time (...at Band Camp J/K), my late husband had popped this porno movie into the VCR and told me, "hey, you have to see this..."
And on that movie, right before my very eyes was my doppelganger . Seriously, I did a double take, because at first glance I really did think that someone had video taped me without my knowledge. LOL we were both tripping on how much she looked just like me, face and body.

So by saying that's not really her, but just some woman who looks like her, really is not too far fetched. IMO

 

[Anonymous]

I mentioned this on another site the other day, but it reminds me of when the American Idol contestant Frenchie was disqualified for having posed nude in the past. That was ridiculous (her being disqualified). Frenchie had a great voice and people loved her. I guess their opinion is that the ideal 'American Idol' wouldn't take off her clothes for money. :roll:

 

[caireen]

I'm not sure Canadian laws are any different. Wish I know how this turned out, but she got suspended from working at a high school as a clerical worker because she was in a porn movie with NaughtySarah who also works on MFC. http://profiles.myfreecams.com/NaughtySarah

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2011 ... 37036.html

ETA: She was fired!

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2011 ... 23486.html

There is definitely still the same prejudice against adult workers in Canada as there is in the US. I wish I knew how that case turned out too.
I guess I believe that the more people that fight discrimination against adult workers (particularly in court) the more change can be made. I definitely don't think that in canada adult workers don't get wrongfully dismissed either and face massive challenges in fighting that, but I think that they do have the legal potential to challenge that in many cases. That's all.

 

[Bocefish]

I wish I knew how that case turned out too.
I guess I believe that the more people that fight discrimination against adult workers (particularly in court) the more change can be made. I definitely don't think that in canada adult workers don't get wrongfully dismissed either and face massive challenges in fighting that, but I think that they do have the legal potential to challenge that in many cases. That's all.

Not sure if you read the second link, but she was indeed fired. She is appealing it though.

Maybe another interested model could contact NaughtySarah to see what her appeal status is.

Even though she wasn't a teacher, it sounds like they wanted absolutely nothing to do with her.

She told QMI Agency she agreed to stop making porn films to keep her job, and that she was even prepared to transfer to another location. But she said talks broke down over a demand she make unspecified changes to her personal life.

"There are some things that I could not accept," she said. "I promised not make (porn), but it was not enough for them.

I'm curious what those unspecified changes were?

I also heard Canada's legislators are considering legalizing prostitution.

 

[JickyJuly]

In reply to pokerbabes post. Would you let your 4year old drink coffee if you did? Would you let her smoke cigs if you did? Would she be able to stay up as late as she wanted? No. I would hope not. Viewing porn underage is no different. Children are NOT adults, and should NOT be treated like they are.

I don't know if I really consider the photography in Playboy magazines to be "Porno". At least compared to all the other stuff out there.

I would much prefer that my (hypothetical/future) children happen upon amateur nude pics than Playboy. Playboy photos are beautiful, but like advertisements and other overly airbrushed artistic renditions, they aren't representative of the way women look in person. Neither is ideal or appropriate for children of course, but to a young mind Playboy sets the stage for unreasonable expectations/body images.

 

[Jupiter551]

I would much prefer that my (hypothetical/future) children happen upon amateur nude pics than Playboy. Playboy photos are beautiful, but like advertisements and other overly airbrushed artistic renditions, they aren't representative of the way women look in person. Neither is ideal or appropriate for children of course, but to a young mind Playboy sets the stage for unreasonable expectations/body images.

I sure as shit wouldn't want any kids of mine growing up thinking the way Hugh Hefner does about women either. Money he has, but he's still a dirty old creep.

 

[MrRodry]

He is really that bad of a old creep? Despite all the PR stunts and the bad air brushing on the photos, looks like he/his staff provides a good support to the models.

 

[Jupiter551]

He is really that bad of a old creep? Despite all the PR stunts and the bad air brushing on the photos, looks like he/his staff provides a good support to the models

Well there's also stories from women about how as soon as they said they didn't want to do regular group sex with him and the other girls they were booted out of the mansion, ditto when they tried to bring their boyfriends into the mansion at parties (hell, I'd be curious to visit there, anyone would)

Depends who you believe but I sure wouldn't take anything at face value when it comes from a worldwide marketing/publicity machine like playboy inc. is

 

[Poker_Babe]

In reply to pokerbabes post. Would you let your 4year old drink coffee if you did? Would you let her smoke cigs if you did? Would she be able to stay up as late as she wanted? No. I would hope not. Viewing porn underage is no different. Children are NOT adults, and should NOT be treated like they are.

I don't know if I really consider the photography in Playboy magazines to be "Porno". At least compared to all the other stuff out there.

I would much prefer that my (hypothetical/future) children happen upon amateur nude pics than Playboy. Playboy photos are beautiful, but like advertisements and other overly airbrushed artistic renditions, they aren't representative of the way women look in person. Neither is ideal or appropriate for children of course, but to a young mind Playboy sets the stage for unreasonable expectations/body images.

Thats actually very true.

Which reminds me, Ola did mention that Playboy actually does have pretty high standards for the kind of models they accept as their centerfolds. (ie, scars and that kind of stuff not good)

 

[Bocefish]

Neither is ideal or appropriate for children of course, but to a young mind Playboy sets the stage for unreasonable expectations/body images.

With free porn being available 24/7/365 nowadays, I wouldn't fret too much about little Tommy or Tammy getting unreasonable body images. Jus' sayin'. :whistle: The airbrushed crap they see in everyday magazines in the supermarket checkout line along with 99.9% of Hokeywood actresses having plastic surgery is far more damaging in that regard.

 

[Anonymous]

I sometimes wonder what the Playboy standards are, because I don't find the majority of the girls to be good looking (average faces and average bodies). I once worked with a girl who was a Playboy model. Her looks were mediocre (then again I'm not sure what she really looks like since she wore 10 lbs of makeup) and dumb as a pile of rocks, so that leads me to believe that it's all politics.

 

[Poker_Babe]

UPDATE:
School employee fired for porn starts adult film company

Read more:http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStorie...oyee-adult-film-company-111224/#ixzz1hk7eAiyE

 

[Jupiter551]

UPDATE:
School employee fired for porn starts adult film company

Read more:http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/TopStorie...oyee-adult-film-company-111224/#ixzz1hk7eAiyE

Founding her own adult film company was a step Ardente took only after gaining the approval of her 12-year-old daughter, who had previously been unaware her mother did porn on the side.

WTF? I find that really messed up, to expect a 12 year old to give her blessing for her mother to continue making porn. To even put her in that position...

 

[PlayboyMegan]

In reply to pokerbabes post. Would you let your 4year old drink coffee if you did? Would you let her smoke cigs if you did? Would she be able to stay up as late as she wanted? No. I would hope not. Viewing porn underage is no different. Children are NOT adults, and should NOT be treated like they are.

I don't know if I really consider the photography in Playboy magazines to be "Porno". At least compared to all the other stuff out there.

I would much prefer that my (hypothetical/future) children happen upon amateur nude pics than Playboy. Playboy photos are beautiful, but like advertisements and other overly airbrushed artistic renditions, they aren't representative of the way women look in person. Neither is ideal or appropriate for children of course, but to a young mind Playboy sets the stage for unreasonable expectations/body images.

I've seen many of those women, in person, nude. Their bodies DO look the same. Playboy has SOME overly photoshopped pictorials (usually for celebrity pictorials) but the non-celebrities look the same in person. I posed for Playboy and my photos seemed hardly touched. Besides my hair and make-up, my body looks the same in my Playboy photos as it does on cam.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

In reply to pokerbabes post. Would you let your 4year old drink coffee if you did? Would you let her smoke cigs if you did? Would she be able to stay up as late as she wanted? No. I would hope not. Viewing porn underage is no different. Children are NOT adults, and should NOT be treated like they are.

I don't know if I really consider the photography in Playboy magazines to be "Porno". At least compared to all the other stuff out there.

I would much prefer that my (hypothetical/future) children happen upon amateur nude pics than Playboy. Playboy photos are beautiful, but like advertisements and other overly airbrushed artistic renditions, they aren't representative of the way women look in person. Neither is ideal or appropriate for children of course, but to a young mind Playboy sets the stage for unreasonable expectations/body images.

Thats actually very true.

Which reminds me, Ola did mention that Playboy actually does have pretty high standards for the kind of models they accept as their centerfolds. (ie, scars and that kind of stuff not good)

It's a form of modeling. Most models are held to a high standard of what that company considers beautiful. Do you think Guess would have a model with a scar on her forehead? Probably not. Just because most companies don't think scars are beautiful. Do you think that a model who is 5'3 will get hired for a high fashion runway? Probably not, because most high fashion companies do not consider that beautiful. We ALL judge beauty in one way or another. Why can't companies?

 

[Poker_Babe]

It's a form of modeling. Most models are held to a high standard of what that company considers beautiful. Do you think Guess would have a model with a scar on her forehead? Probably not. Just because most companies don't think scars are beautiful. Do you think that a model who is 5'3 will get hired for a high fashion runway? Probably not, because most high fashion companies do not consider that beautiful. We ALL judge beauty in one way or another. Why can't companies?

Well the biggest reason you have to be tall to do run way modeling has to do with the visual aspect of it. It better shows the clothes if the model is taller. At least that's what I was told back when I was with John Casablancas.

Ola Ray invited me over to take some pictures at her place, and was going to try to help me get a gig modeling in Playboy.
Well about a few months before that, I had gotten into a really big fight, and was eventually pushed threw a window. When I went to Ola's home I was healed up, but it left a huge scar that was on my back; which she didn't see when she first met me because my clothes where covering it. Well when she was taking pictures of me she saw the scar and that's when she told me, that would most likely be a problem with getting into Playboy magazine, and that I might have better luck getting accepted in one of playboy's other "sister" magazines.

The scar is finally gone BTW.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

It's a form of modeling. Most models are held to a high standard of what that company considers beautiful. Do you think Guess would have a model with a scar on her forehead? Probably not. Just because most companies don't think scars are beautiful. Do you think that a model who is 5'3 will get hired for a high fashion runway? Probably not, because most high fashion companies do not consider that beautiful. We ALL judge beauty in one way or another. Why can't companies?

Well the biggest reason you have to be tall to do run way modeling has to do with the visual aspect of it. It better shows the clothes if the model is taller. At least that's what I was told back when I was with John Casablancas.

Ola Ray invited me over to take some pictures at her place, and was going to try to help me get a gig modeling in Playboy.
Well about a few months before that, I had gotten into a really big fight, and was eventually pushed threw a window. When I went to Ola's home I was healed up, but it left a huge scar that was on my back; which she didn't see when she first met me because my clothes where covering it. Well when she was taking pictures of me she saw the scar and that's when she told me, that would most likely be a problem with getting into Playboy magazine, and that I might have better luck getting accepted in one of playboy's other "sister" magazines.

The scar is finally gone BTW.

In THEIR opinion it shows off the clothes better. Again, they are judging beauty and what THEY think looks best, which they are absolutely allowed to do. Is being 6'0 a realistic image for young girls? Depends if they have tall parents, I guess. Just like Playboy models. If their moms look like that, I guess it could be a realistic image for them.
Amber's body is almost identical to this years Playmate of the Year. Is her body not a realistic image for girls? For some it is, and for others it is not. But her body is very much real. So I would think that makes it "realistic."
You said she was an older playmate, right? Things have changed with Playboy. Girls with large tattoo pieces are now making Playmate. A scar on your back would most likely just be photo-shopped out if they really liked you.