Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests muted?

[Anonymous]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

As a talking guest or basic, why pay if you're getting that already?

THIS!

And the guests and basics who yell at the premiums "COME ON...TIP HER, YOU CHEAPASSES! I WANNA SEE HER CUM!" have really got some nerve.....

 

[LindseyDoll]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

Here's how I feel about muting guests and basics.

As some others have said, guests haven't even bothered to sign up for a free account. They have absolutely no reason to be nice in anyway. I find that they say the most vile things, and consider themselves off the hook because they don't even have a username to direct your ire at.

Basics have a little more invested, they at least have a name, and attached to that is their reputation on the site. They're slightly less likely to act like dick bags. Only slightly. The ones who will later become premium make it worth talking to them until I get tired of feeling like I'm trying to hold back a pack of wolves trying to somehow ravage me with text. When it gets too hard to keep my room in line, or all I find myself saying is "you need to tip for that" over and over, I mute them. The ones who like me will understand, and maybe even go premium to avoid being silenced.

Premiums however, are not so infallible as some of them think. From time to time I ignore or ban on an individual basis. Because I don't take crap from anyone. Being a premium isn't special, and it's no guarantee that they intend to tip. For the most part they are the kindest on the site. They have the most invested into their name and reputation on the site, and don't want to ruin it and start again. There are just a few bad apples.

Sorry if this sounded bitchy.

 

[schlmoe]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

H_o_r_i_z_o_N

Did bawksy get a new account here?

 

[Sia Green]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

What is this thread all about? I cant see the OP. I have basics muted. :lol: :lol:

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

What is this thread all about? I cant see the OP. I have basics muted. :lol: :lol:

This made me LOL

 

[Jupiter551]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

"bb mmmm"
"fist ass please"
"open dat pussy"
"you fucking ugly bitch"
"no tits"
"fhkfkufvjgf,f"
"hola muy caliente"
"doggy pls"
"hi daughter, this is dad."

this made me LOL- especially the 'hi daughter, this is dad'- because it's SO true.

Me too, it's like she's channeling a gaggle of basics lol

Wait. So, you're saying guests and basics that you can turn off make you leave rooms whereas "room heroes" dont?

Not generally no. I let a model moderate her own room and room heroes don't "attack" me because I'm not a disrespectful doucher on some kind of crusade.

My advice to you is to turn off basics and guests on your end if they bother you that much. Turning guests/basics off for you only is not the same as the model muting all of them, obviously, but for you its the same result. The only reason I can see a premium wanting all guests/basics to be muted by the model is so they can feel "special" as a premium.

Bother me? They bother almost everyone, because they're almost all rude, begging pricks who can barely speak English. TL;DR - it's not me that has the problem, it's them.

A poor and/or cheap premium is the same as a guest. They're both worth 0 tokens. If you want a free show... you can just lurk as a guest and see the same thing as a premium in a public show. You dont need to sign up for that.

No, there's one difference and it's an important one; that poor or broke premium has tipped and showed appreciation at least once which is exactly 100% more than any of the basics have done, even the "nice" ones.

You only sign up if you want to spend money. Plain and simple.

Yet earlier you said being able to join conversation and enjoy themselves in the room would be incentive to sign up - which is it?

I can tell you're one of the premiums who thinks they're above everyone else. You've forgotten that you were a basic once.

I can tell you're one of the newbies here who likes to start a thread with their first post and pontificate on how models should operate. I can also tell you're one of the people who makes sweeping assumptions about those he doesn't even know.

I don't think I'm above everyone else, I do know I've spend thousands of tokens on the site and don't feel like being indundated with garbage while trying to relax. I was a basic for like a day, if that. I wanted to talk, got out my credit card. Didn't think it was a big deal and still don't think it's a big deal for those cheap motherfuckers to spend $20 once.

Fuck basics, sign up or shut up.

 

[Jessi]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

Fuck basics, sign up or shut up.

:shock: My virgin ears!

But yeh, if you're too disrespectful to think I deserve to be paid for my work, then you're not entitled to hang out with me.

 

[Trav]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

Fuck basics, sign up or shut up.

Indeed. :thumbleft:

 

[Rosemary]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

This is part of the reason why I love ACF so much!

I have to admit that if I went into a store and they gave me everything that the people gave me without having to pay, I probably would be less inclined to pay.

I have so many questions about how you came up with this idea. Where are your resources? Where did you read this crap? I don't want to assume you just pulled this out of your ass. What I'm saying is that if you're going to post some mind-blowing business/marketing strategies that will make me MORE money, please cite. I'll gladly listen if you can back that shit up.

So...

 

[mynameisbob84]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

I empathise with the basics a little bit. I started out as one. I was lucky in that I chanced upon a model who was cool enough to talk to me and treat me just as she would any high-tipping premium in her room even though I'd never tipped a soul. It made signing up as a premium an easy thing to do.
Buuuuut, by and large, basics and guests are fucking morons. That's not to say I don't enjoy observing the crap they come out with. It's entertaining watching torrents of insane bullshit pour out their mouths at such an alarming rate and consistency. But they do tend to be the ones to start hurling insults the model's way when they don't immediately get the positive kind of attention they're not paying for. They be a double-edged sword, a paradox, Schroedinger's cat... you don't know if you're dealing with a decent guy who might one day turn out to be a regular tipper, or just some bored douche-nozzle with minor mental issues looking to project on the room and the model in particular; and of course you won't know until you unblock them to allow them to speak. But then you run the risk of opening the floodgates to an online army of mongs. It's a dilemma, yo

Basic-weary models could maybe do like, a basic-hour once a week. Advertise and promote it and shit. Be prepared to put up with an uprise in idiots an hour a week; the upshot being, the decent, would-be-tipping basics know when to catch you (so you don't miss out on them by having them permanently muted), and you only need to deal with the idiocy an hour a week.

 

[Jessi]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

I can't think of any business where you're allowed to hang around as much as you like, chat up (distract) the staff, use the facilities/services and not pay unless you feel like it someday. The owners/management aren't going to put up with that for very long in the hopes that you might become a customer.
The only people who get away with this in the real world are long time regulars.

 

[AshaSnow]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

Once upon a time models didn't have the option to mute basics. SO many premiums and models complained that eventually they let us mute the bastards. I have had my fair share of AWESOME basics, and sometimes I'll keep them unmuted when my room is slow. I actually have some regulars who are basics only. But damned if sometimes the basics don't make me want to cry in frustration (not the regulars) with their begging, insults, and general stupidity.

I recently had to allow all basics to talk every time one of my premium regs came in as a basic (he has been having premium account issues) and it makes me want to kill something about 70% of the time because there are SO MANY TROLLS. I can only handle so many "please can we see your tits?" and "oh yea baby cum for us" and "I'll tip you if you stuff your ass, bb"

 

[Rosemary]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

Basic-weary models could maybe do like, a basic-hour once a week. Advertise and promote it and shit. Be prepared to put up with an uprise in idiots an hour a week; the upshot being, the decent, would-be-tipping basics know when to catch you (so you don't miss out on them by having them permanently muted), and you only need to deal with the idiocy an hour a week.

I may not be on MFC anymore, but this is something I would personally liked to have tried, at least out of curiosity. It would sate my 'omfg what if that basic would go premium if only he could interact with me' feelings while not having to unleash the titsbb plague. I'd even allow people to tip to cut the 'basic hour' to a 'basic half hour'. Never guests, though. Never.

 

[lordmagellan]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

I don't know about anyone else, but the reason I became a premium is because I found a girl I was genuinely interested in having a conversation with. If I'd had that ability as a basic and been treated the same way, maybe I never would have made the initial $20 leap.

The fact is though, too many basics and guests are assholes. That's the bottom line. If I were a model, I wouldn't want to deal with that aggrivation either. I don't know what the correlation is between being cheap and being a dick, but it's obviously there, and the guests and basics on MFC prove it.

This.

I was a basic for a good while. It was just hard to justify paying for porn while on the internet, where even the most vile stuff can be found for free. Justifying it to myself and to my wife. The wife was actually easier. I find there's a bit of social stigma that's attached to someone who watches pretty girls get naked on the internet and, much as I hate to admit it, that raised questions for me. But then I realized I openly admit to enjoying porn to the point that my friends ask me about certain things- what site was this? where can I find that? So I got over that rather easily.

But to actually shell out the money just to talk to a pretty face and nice set of jugs? Ridiculous. Then I found a girl who is, in a word or two, fucking awesome, and I chatted with her when she actually had basics in chat. I'd pop on every so often be lucky enough that it happened a couple more times and she seemed to enjoy my company to that point that she told me I should go premium. While I still had the "why buy this cow?" attitude, I was finding that.... basics and guests are FUCKING CUNTS. I mean really, here I would be enjoying the chat with both room and model, then here comes the dickface brigade with the usual demands on her, then out swings the banhammer. I hated it, but I completely understood. So I said, "fuck it," this girl's awesome, I'm gonna toss her some coin because I want her to succeed.

I've found a few more since then and, while I'm not a big spender, I'm glad I'm no longer associated with those assholes who spend nothing.
Let them fap their little peckers in silence, I say.



(The girl in question is the very owner of this forum, by the way. Our schedules conflict so I miss her a good deal. )

 

[BarbieChuu]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

You know, a lot of us models are disrespected several times on a daily basis.
Unless you're in our shoes, it's hard to understand. I have other personal reasons why i keep them muted that i won't get into.
I use to leave guests/basics unmuted, but theres only so much you can take from people who have nothing else better to do then harass models.
We have EVERY right to mute or unmute who we want.
I'm not saying ALL guests/basics do this, because some are actually fun to talk to. Hell, some premiums even do it.
I'm not going to make myself feel uncomfortable when i could easily just mute them to avoid the drama though. :twocents-02cents:

 

[Jupiter551]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

Btw I sometimes see this stuff about the mythical "awesome basic".

I'll admit that basics are occasionally regular human beings who can string a sentence together, not beg and not be a total cunt, but ...what do they want, a fucking medal? Isn't that just acting like a normal human being?

Yes it would be nicer if everyone was like that, but they are still less supportive than JoeLunchbox4U who may be boring and not the best conversationalist but tips regularly.

 

[skiphop90]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

Basics are more likely to say innappropriate things.

 

[LailaBaise]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

Btw I sometimes see this stuff about the mythical "awesome basic".

I'll admit that basics are occasionally regular human beings who can string a sentence together, not beg and not be a total cunt, but ...what do they want, a fucking medal? Isn't that just acting like a normal human being?

Yes it would be nicer if everyone was like that, but they are still less supportive than JoeLunchbox4U who may be boring and not the best conversationalist but tips regularly.

LOL! This made think of the Chris Rock stand up 'you're supposed to' :lol:
'But I talk like a normal human being to cam girls!'

 

[Bocefish]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

Not being from Canada, I don't feel any need to be as polite as LovelyLemon was...

Most girls are too stupid to even realize that im a premium which is why muting basics and guests doesnt work and that im just using the basic font.

Congratulations!

 

[H_o_r_i_z_o_N]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

Wow, this thread blew up over night and unfortunately I dont have enough time to respond to everything right now. I'll get at a few of these now and come back to the rest later.

In made me think:
"Wow, changing your font size and colour to mimic that of a basic - that's pretty crafty. Do your balls get really twitchy when these scenarios play themselves out and you get to gleefully inform the young woman she's failed your ingenious test of character and intellectual capacity?"

I dont. If I say something in basic font and she mutes basics I just continue one as if nothing happened. What usually follows is an eyebrow raise. Here, most girls either: mute basics again, or click my profile and see that im not a basic. I can tell what they're doing by either seeing the continued look of confusion on their face as they try to mute basics again, or that confused face turns to dollar signs after they click my profile.

But I'll go ahead and not make random assumptions about your emotional maturity or leanings towards passive aggression and manipulation. I'm sure your reasoning for mimicking a basic has a perfectly logical explanation and that your condemnation of models who then confuse you with a basic also makes perfect fucking sense in the proper context.

Yeah, you might want to not do that, because its making me question your emotional maturity.

I know you're assuming that I "break cover" and "call out" a model once she "fails" but that couldnt be more wrong. In the example above where the girl got really frustrated and couldnt figure out why I wasnt muted I actually ended up apologizing to her and tipped her 50 tokens then left the room. I actually felt bad... because she couldnt figure it out.

I've been doing this over the last month or so because ive seen that MFC has gone down hill and im wondering why.

Models who have a genuine hate-on for guests and basics irk me too - I don't think it's good business to be rude to the entire potential client base based on the offensive actions of a few. It's easy enough to make the problem go away (mute 'em) therefore it's just not necessary to get so worked up and confrontational about it.

I mute Guests and Basics each and every shift but no one could ever accuse me of being condescending, confrontational or cunty about it. It's my job as a model to inspire guests and basics to sign up and keep the circle of life going on MFC. It's my prerogative as a model to choose to focus my attention on the dudes who fall into the Token Achievement Unlocked category. I could try and selectively ban the most vocal "undesirables" in the room but that would require I take my hands off my boobs and redirect my attention to clickity-clicking the underachievers away. Even guests and basics would agree that my time is better spent playing with my tits than playing with my keyboard.

If its too much work for you then im not asking you to do it. The whole point of this thread is that I think there is a better way to do things that to just mute everyone. I think a models constant interaction with everyone in the room is being overlooked by the mute button and that is the point im trying to make in this thread.

What is this thread all about? I cant see the OP. I have basics muted. :lol: :lol:

I dont know if you're serious or if this is a joke.

It should be pretty obvious that im not a basic on MFC.

 

[schlmoe]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

I can tell you're one of the newbies here who likes to start a thread with their first post and pontificate on how models should operate. I can also tell you're one of the people who makes sweeping assumptions about those he doesn't even know.

I don't think I'm above everyone else, I do know I've spend thousands of tokens on the site and don't feel like being indundated with garbage while trying to relax. I was a basic for like a day, if that. I wanted to talk, got out my credit card. Didn't think it was a big deal and still don't think it's a big deal for those cheap motherfuckers to spend $20 once.

Fuck basics, sign up or shut up.

Dude, not your finest hour. No need to drag the pope into this discussion. He fully supports the muting of basics and guests.

 

[Remykins]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

I'm someone who always kept basics unmuted - until the day came where someone who I knew IRL decided to come into my chat under a basic screename and blast my real name and address in my chatroom. Since then, basics have been muted to prevent that from happening again. (Thats my personal reason for why basics are muted, take it for what you will)

HOWEVER...I fully support the models who mute guests and basics. While yes, there are some great basics, who CAN add to the conversation....the majority of them are tools. Our job is to entertain and put on a good show for those who pay for it. Its hard to do that when every 45 seconds we're having to stop and ban someone who's disrespected us. And sometimes...just sometimes...getting insulted, degraded and treated like a cheap ho from the basics can get under our skin and keep us from doing the best job possible on cam.

If you worked at Mcdonalds and you had people coming into your restaurant every single minute of the day asking for free food, calling you low-life fast food workers and harassing you and the patrons of your restaurant...you'd eventually call the cops on them to have them removed. We, as camgirls, don't get that luxury. All we are armed with is the ban button or the option to mute. Muting gets the job done faster so WE can do OUR job better. Thats all there is to it.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

I can't think of any business where you're allowed to hang around as much as you like, chat up (distract) the staff, use the facilities/services and not pay unless you feel like it someday. The owners/management aren't going to put up with that for very long in the hopes that you might become a customer.
The only people who get away with this in the real world are long time regulars.

THIS.

Any guy who hangs out in a cam site's free chat (or public chat) regularly without ever spending a dime SHOULD NOT be complaining. There are other sites where you are required to PAY before you even see the model live on cam.

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

I'm thinking why are you being an ass enough for a model to say stfu anyways. Like being a troll? Don't complain. It is a models room, not yours. She makes the rules of who talks, accept it.

 

[MrRodry]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

It doesnt take a rocket surgeon to realize that the guests are the basics of tomorrow and the basics are the premiums of tomorrow. It really rubs me the wrong way when models mute basics and guests without any other reason other than the fact that they are talking and hanging out.

Yeah, but it takes $20 to become a premium and, "until tomorrow", that guest/basic is not able or don't want to contribute to her countdown/show/raffle/whatever.

You're right. It's your room. It's your store. It's at your discretion. I just dont know too many businesses that essentially kick out customers for the sole reason of the not having any money. It's not like they tried to buy with no money, steal, or be unruly, they were just hanging out.

Her room, her rules, her muting button. Guest/basics are not consumers, they are potential costumers that, if you think about it, got acess to the best feature of MFC (Most Popular Room), if they want to just fap and get out.

It also bugs me that models let their "regulars" practically do w/e they want and dont hold them to the same standard as a non-regular, guests, or basic.
If im a regular in your room I act no different than when I was not a regular. I think regulars who act like douche bags because you let them actually hurt your room as a whole especially if they are the type of "regular" who tips you big one week then never tips you again.

Feels like your real problem is with how the premiums behave themselves on the model chat room and not why the models is using her muting tool. Once again, her room, her rules, her white knights, her income being hurt or not by those white knights. If that is such a problem to you, hit the next model, there is probably 500 other models online.

So why am I here? Because im a premium disguised as a basic. You'd be surprised how many girls try to mute me thinking that im a basic the moment I even type anything.I actually had one girl say "OMG you stupid basic STFU!!" before she muted the basics. This happened after I said "Wow, thats a nice painting there, did you paint it?" lol. Most girls are too stupid to even realize that im a premium which is why muting basics and guests doesnt work and that im just using the basic font.

You, you, you... Have you ever thought of the model point of view? I know there is some basics/guests that are cool and that wants to contribute to the chat room (there is even a story of one spreading the word about this forum somewhere around here) but... let's change the POV:

Most girls basic/guests are too stupid to even realize that im a premium which he/she is seeing her feed for free (that is mojo of MFC after all) and that is why muting basics and guests doesnt work and that im just using the basic font. they should enjoy whatever the model is doing at the public chat and don't demand anything.

TL;DR

Unless you have a storm of "open tits bb" or "how mch tks to fck ur cat" type basics and guests, you might wanna calm down on the muting and choose to ban instead. Encouraging basics and guests by allowing them to participate in your room helps everyone as a whole. They may not have tokens now, but tokens are just a few clicks away.

Open your head bb. Eventually you will find models that allows the guests/basics to talk, until one of them start with the demands/the daddy bullshit/the "I got rich friends (but can't pay the $20)" bullshit/the yada yada yada bullshit and keep up with her private messages, the quality of her stream (lighting, angle, internet speed) and her countdown/show/raffle/whatever.

 

[Cassidy Nicole]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

Honestly, you say you are not a basic, so why do you care so much about the subject? I dont really get it..


While I was on MFC I kept guest muted and basics muted most of the time for all the same reasons all the girls have. It just kept the room calmer and not as crazy and distributive. I don't know about you, but when I work, I like the calmest atmosphere I can get, so by muting people who are 99% of the time just plan jackasses, it is a more relaxing atmosphere. More relaxing and not as stressed= more people enjoying themselves=more money.

 

[AshleyMarks]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

I can't think of any business where you're allowed to hang around as much as you like, chat up (distract) the staff, use the facilities/services and not pay unless you feel like it someday. The owners/management aren't going to put up with that for very long in the hopes that you might become a customer.
The only people who get away with this in the real world are long time regulars.

THIS.

Any guy who hangs out in a cam site's free chat (or public chat) regularly without ever spending a dime SHOULD NOT be complaining. There are other sites where you are required to PAY before you even see the model live on cam.

I agree with this. I think that basics have it pretty good. If OP does not like to be thought of as a basic, maybe changing his FONT would be a better way to go. Why would you try to start trouble by doing something that you should know MOST models do not like? Models are at free-will to mute whoever they please. Says so in the wiki. Go to another room where the chat is over-run with so much chat from basics that it will bother you, and maybe you will change your perspective, when as a premium, you can't type fast enough to keep up. It's hard enough for the most popular models to keep up. Imagine if there was 500+ more people chatting and you had to make sure to give everyone attention. Anyway, I honestly think that OP is not going to change his POV and maybe the thread should sink into the dark abyss of ACF. It's no use arguing with someone who isn't really giving good debate.

 

[Urwormfood]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

If you a prem logged in as a guest or on a basic account you already most likely know the "unwritten rules" of these types of accounts. If you are previewing a model under these types of accounts to see how the room/model is fine. If you are just being some sort of a dick under the guise of a guest/basic....well you get what you expect. Models room/models rules is something folks never seem to get. If the model does not mind guests or basics to chat then deal with it, most will put any shithead in their place as needed. Nothing is worse for any member then a jackass no matter prem or otherwise disrupting a room.

To answer your simple question: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests muted?

Answer: Because it is their wonderful choice too. :-D

~worm~

 

[Anonymous]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

I agree with this. I think that basics have it pretty good. If OP does not like to be thought of as a basic, maybe changing his FONT would be a better way to go. Why would you try to start trouble by doing something that you should know MOST models do not like? Models are at free-will to mute whoever they please. Says so in the wiki. Go to another room where the chat is over-run with so much chat from basics that it will bother you, and maybe you will change your perspective, when as a premium, you can't type fast enough to keep up. It's hard enough for the most popular models to keep up. Imagine if there was 500+ more people chatting and you had to make sure to give everyone attention. Anyway, I honestly think that OP is not going to change his POV and maybe the thread should sink into the dark abyss of ACF. It's no use arguing with someone who isn't really giving good debate.

Yeah. He claims to be a premium who poses as a basic, but then he gets pissed when models suspect he's a "basic that got loose." Um...CHANGE YOUR FONT THEN?!

In fact, now that I think about it, one of my trolls (a premium) loved using that stupid basic font.

 

[Bocefish]

Re: Why do models feel the need to keep basics and guests mu

The whole point of this thread is that I think there is a better way to do things that to just mute everyone.

You have a thread full of models telling you why it doesn't work. Thus, the way you think is better possibly isn't.

There is no doubt that muting guests and basics makes for a more enjoyable atmosphere when the room is crowded. The only significant downfall of muting them is that it creates more forever $20 premiums who think they're all that and a bag of chips just because they spent a Jackson to upgrade. :twocents-02cents: