Why I no longer tip - one member's experience

[IsabellaSnow]

Allison I think your car salesman point really hit the nail on the head. It's like shops that offer free samples, yes, you could go in there and steal all the free samples, but that would be very wrong, and most wouldn't do it as they'd be too embarrassed as there's the sales assistant/shop owner watching them.
People do things over the internet where they feel no one can see them, that they wouldn't do in real life.
Even on this forum etc it's the same, we say things we'd absolutely never say normally. This means people tend to feel more guilt free when they wank off for free over a girl who is only earning what she earns in her room for rent/bills and food etc.

If every prem who came into my room tipped me 5/10 tokens, my countdowns would disappear quickly and I'd make a happy living. If every person in the room tipped that amount I'd do very well. You think, if everyone just threw in 60p every night, you'd get the cheapest live, interactive porn ever and everyone would be happy. Yes you can perve for free, yes I can steal sweets from a corner shop, does not make it right.

 

[bob]

I agree that to some extent models are to blame for enhancing the freeloading problem by doing free shows but at the same time they are forced into it because of MFC's reputation for being, well, free as the name implies. I'm pretty sure that most models did not join the site hoping to do a show in front of hundreds of viewers who weren't going to pay her. They probably signed up, tried to reserve things for private or group and when they found out that cheap members weren't going to pay for them and tried to haggle them down they really had no other option if they wanted to make any money at all. I agree that public shows may be hurting MFC overall but when a model has bills to pay and the only way she can make money is through public shows she's not going to care about what direction the site is going in, she has her own problems that need to be dealt with at the moment. The fact is that the majority of people are cheap and always try get as much as they can with spending as little as they can and when this is paired with a need to make money a model is pushed to deal with those circumstances the best she can.

The reality is that as long as MFC keeps making just as much or money with the methods that are in place now the public shows are never going to stop, there's just no incentive for them to enforce the "no masturbation in public" rule. If you don't like that a model is giving away things for free, don't patronize them and support a model who will give you what you want. Not all models do public shows. I never do them, I've done one lotion show and have never done a public cum show because I don't like the idea of providing a show for a crowd of people when only a few have paid for it. The important thing is to support models that you like. I'm not saying that you have to tip them just for being online but if you want to see her play with toys, take her to private or start a group and don't wait to the point where she is not making any tokens through these methods so that her only remaining option is to do them in public.

Thank you. OMG I cannot thank you enough, the whole point of my post was to stimulate that realization.

Really?....It felt more to me like you had a realization and came here to share it, thinking that it was significant enough to motivate change. That's what I found excellent about your first post....but you quickly began to defend freeloading because of the business model that mfc both condones and encourages....while denying the administration's role in your worldview, objectifying the models who work that site instead by presenting them essentially as different kinds of products on the mfc aisles, stripping them of the freedom to be the change you initially felt was necessary.

At that point, your opening post lost a good deal of it's import, and became a rather self-satisfied series of "logical" posts meant to persuade your audience that your decision was "rational", because it was a reflection of 1/your needs and 2/the faulty thinking and actions or others (described by way of economic models)

And now here, you're thanking a model because of the apparent belief that your post stimulated a realization in the error of her ways.....my reading of it, however, indicates that she had already adapted to the plethora of freeloaders that inhabit the mfc marketplace....reiterating what many have already told you in this thread....freeloading is not invited by any model at mfc, regardless of her working style (at best, it's tolerated as an inevitable by-product of what is condoned and encouraged by the site itself, and every model must find a set of tools to manage it).

Freeloading is a choice, just like the free show....both show a certain disregard for the social environment that is mfc's strength, imo, by distancing the participant's experience from the intimate realm of human interaction. The power -and the danger- of laissez faire captialism, is it's desire to replace the mystery of our humanity with the profit motive.

Your recognition of that was described with candor in your first post. Your defense of it however, has failed prove that you are not just another opprotunist in the world of consumerism.

:twocents-02cents:

 

[JoleneBrody]

I miss the old days when you could play in free chat a bit, but if you wanted a better show you went into a group and if you wanted the best show take the model private for one on one.

Me too. I don't do public cum shows and as of late I log off at the end of a shift without an orgasm more often than with. Either people wont join a group or no one requests private. I still have a really good time with the nude show I do but I enjoy getting off too! I will likely never do public shows but this is the one reason I've considered it in the past and a very likely reasons others have chose to do them.

 

[bob]

I miss the old days when you could play in free chat a bit, but if you wanted a better show you went into a group and if you wanted the best show take the model private for one on one.

Me too. I don't do public cum shows and as of late I log off at the end of a shift without an orgasm more often than with. Either people wont join a group or no one requests private. I still have a really good time with the nude show I do but I enjoy getting off too! I will likely never do public shows but this is the one reason I've considered it in the past and a very likely reasons others have chose to do them.

it's refreshing to me to hear a more personal account here of -for lack of a better descriptor- the value of the free show.....as a member with specific biases about what i like about mfc, i only tend to see "the slippery slope".....obviously just another personal point of view

it was nice to hear yours....thanks

 

[loveyougipsy]

There is only so long the premium manufacturers can hold out, because any sales, even lower prices ones are better than none.

In this case models would be the premium manufacturer and you make it sound like there's only so long we can hold out. That's not true, at least not the way I see it. When push comes to shove models won't just say 'Well, nobody is paying for groups or privates anymore so I'll just give it away for free.' They'll say, 'Well, nobody is paying for groups or privates anymore so I'm heading to a new site where nudity isn't allowed unless you're in paid chat. It's been fun. Kthnxbai!'

It didn't sound as final as that in my head when I was writing it, sorry.
There will always be a market for premium manufacturers (models) but as the amount of money going to them shrinks in their current market (eg mfc), some will throw in the towel completely, some start looking for new markets that aren't so over run (sites), others join the rush to the bottom.

 

[AmberCutie]

I miss the old days when you could play in free chat a bit, but if you wanted a better show you went into a group and if you wanted the best show take the model private for one on one.

Well that's still what happens in my room (aside from private, it's just group.) I know I'm not the only one who still does this. And while we may feel the impact of all the girls doing cumshows in free (I do have less people in group these days than I did in my first year) this business model does still work in the long run. I feel fortunate that I am engaging enough in public chat to still have people tip to show their appreciation for it, and I do have some very wonderful regulars who help support the bulk of my goals and they most definitely get a different level of attention and adoration from me.

As OP said, many models on MFC these days really do make the bulk of their tokens from a handful of very supportive and awesome people. Not every viewer on MFC is there to have a quick wank and carry on with their day. Entertainment and engagement with the model, beyond just watching her diddle her fiddle, is what many people are looking for. One of the most WONDERFUL things about MFC is that it provides the freedom to make this work. Models can tailor their show to make it more enjoyable for those she feels support her the most. Sure, there will be freeloaders, but ultimately the freeloaders don't get a tailored show. They just get table scraps. I mean let's face it, dogs LOVE table scraps! But these doggies don't get to ask for certain types of table scraps, or order a porterhouse steak... they just have to take what they get.

And it's been mentioned but I will remind people: There is a difference between an absolute freeloader, and a person who is just unable to tip for a period of time. Freeloaders make a conscious decision to accept what they see for free. The others WANT to contribute, and either have done so a lot in the past and/or plan to do it again in the future. The others are ones who thank the girl for a wonderful show, then 2 weeks later, drop by her room to send a small tip with a note about how they have enjoyed her in the past couple weeks and can finally tip.

We've sort of all gone off on our own little tangents about how we feel about models doing free shows, and how we feel about freeloaders, but I think the point that has been forgotten is that OP focused on how we are supposed to be blaming models for freeloaders and the only way to fix the problem is to stop these models from doing free shows. But there really is no way to stop that. It's not going to happen. Yes, the vibe has changed a bit over the years to a more freeloader friendly environment (the MFC ads most definitely focus on the FREE aspect, but don't forget the rule of numbers. They wouldn't be doing that if they weren't making money by doing so.) But some of the features on MFC that lend themselves to freeloading are also some of the most awesome features that make the site a fun place to be for the rest of us.

There will always be freeloaders. There will always be "whale" tippers. There will always be those who are in between and occasionally tip/spend in private/group for appreciation and a more tailored show. The ratio of all of these may constantly fluctuate, but I don't see it happening in such a way that we can't try and adapt. And if we don't' want to adapt, we can just go to another site that is focused on private time and is more of an even playing field. No pressure to do public shows. There will still be freeloaders on other sites, but they won't be rewarded in the same way.

 

[sweetiebatman]

There always have been freeloaders, always will be. In moderation they are not overly a bad thing..

HOWEVER Brazen condescending freeloaders who push it in your face they have no intention of teeping for bobs or otherwise are the lowest scum of the low in my opinion. Like shoplifters!

 

[MadiSin_Moon]

I would venture to point out the obvious and say that BOTH freeloading members and models who rely on public shows are to blame for this. The fact that a model is using public shows doesn't undo the fact that you're freeloading if you enjoy the show without throwing a few tokens. I'm not sure why personal responsibility is so lacking in our world, but few things are as unattractive as people making excuses. If you're against the rise in public shows, don't watch them. You can't really point out that the shows are killing mfc while you hold your dick in your hand and sit on your wallet.

JickyJuly - I appreciate both the reply and your viewpoint but I think you're missing the key issue; if Mercedes decided to park a new S Class in your driveway, give you the keys, and tell you that you were welcome to make the payments if you wanted to, but that you were under no obligation to do so, would you make the payments or simply enjoy the free car?

To the OP- I think you may be missing JICKY'S point. Your comparison is like apples and oranges. First of all, the payments for a new Mercedes is monstrous. Tipping a model a few tokens for doing a public show that you are enjoying sexually WHEN YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO DO SO is courteous AND it does let her know that you appreciate her. Not every guy who tips in public chat is doing so because they're trying to show other members up or because he wants to entice her into meeting her in person. Some guys do it just to say "thank you" or because they actually like the model, even when they are aware that it's only a fantasy. Also, I hate to point out the obvious, but we ain't cars and we sure as hell aren't groceries. We actually are people.

That being said, I do (objectively) understand that not every single guy will tip when there's a free show going on, especially to the top models who get much more than less than 0.05% of the members in the room chipping in at LEAST a small amount. (And it all adds up). But to be honest, I am much less bothered by basics or guests watching in for free (as long as they're not being obnoxious) than I am by premiums who actually DO have tokens (or are able, financially, to pay for them) who sit and watch a show but won't tip even a small amount or at least contribute in another way. That's just me, though. Also, MFC does have a different business model than other sites. If you are bothered by the social aspect of the site, you could try sites like SM where the focus is more on the privates and not the public chat. (Unless its changed in the last year).

I have been away from MFC for about 6 months now (and am starting on a new account next week) and I don't know how much has really changed, but I currently know a couple models who don't do anything other than brief nudity (and one who doesn't get fully nude at ALL, public or private) and all of those models still have a cam score above 2,000. So people come to MFC looking for different things, and the models provide a large variety of shows and personalities to suit pretty much any member. Does the increase of public shows desensitive members making them less likely to pay? To a certain extent yes. But i guess I'm not understanding what the complaint is, though-- if you feel bothered by the fact that you are wanking it to models in "free" public shows.. then, erm, tip her?

 

[BobbyB]

Just want to say Hi to all.

I follow this board for some time and took this thread as a reason to register here and make my first post.

MFC is a business and wants to make money and you can see it as a market place where seller ( models) and buyer ( Prems) can do business.

I really like the hands of approach regarding what models can do in their room, as far as I see it is mostly really up to the models and if you look at the top models it is possible to make serious money on MFC, so the opportunity is there.....

Regarding the "freeloaders" I guess it is a numbers game, the more freeloaders you have the higher the chances are that some turn into a tipper, OK as the OP shows there is a way back from tipper to freeloader, but I guess that is the exception.
I am a big friend of letting people doing their own stuff, as mentioned already it is possible to be succesful with or without public shows, the current MFC cam number 1 Panzii is not doing public naked shows as far as I know, but being naked surely helps mostly...

So it is really about figuring out what works for a certain model best and try to improve on it.... I would see each visitor in a room as a possible tipper, the more you have the higher the chances are, and if you get repeat visitors the chances are even higher that a feeling of giving something back for a good show leads to a tip...

I guess making money is not easy - for some it works on mfc and maybe it works on other sites and maybe for some camming is not the most effective way to make money...

I wish all the models the best and good luck

bobbyB

 

[MadiSin_Moon]

I wrote this in my previous post:

"...That being said, I do (objectively) understand that not every single guy will tip when there's a free show going on, especially to the top models who get much more than 0.05% of the members in the room chipping in at LEAST a small amount. (And it all adds up)."

To clarify, I said that I understand THAT not all guys tip, and not WHY they do not tip. Also, I meant to write "public" show, and not "free" show because while its free to the freeloader, it's already been paid for by others. And you are right, Bobby, there are top models who still do not do public cum shows, and there's gals in public chat with no holes barred (pun intended) who have very, very low camscores.

This should go to show the OP that there are a lot of guys on MFC who tip the models they like regardless of what they are or aren't doing in public chat but simply because of their personalities. He should therefore know that his type of thinking is common, but it is not NORMAL in a moral sense. (Common and normal are actually very different things) and there are just enough exceptional members out there (unlike himself) who actually view the friendly, personable, and smokin' hot models like the awesome women they are and not ONLY as two tits and three holes. (Of course, those also help in this biz of course, haha.)

 

[Just Me]

I think some of this can be boiled down to, "Are you one that pays for the coffee at work, when there is a contribution jar" or "Do you freeload the coffee"? (Bagels in the link)

Of course the internet throws another variable into the mix. http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/WhatTheBagelManSaw.pdf

The reason I generally tip:

How selfish soever man may be supposed, there are evidently some principles in his nature, which interest him in the fortune of others, and render their happiness necessary to him, though he derives nothing from it except the pleasure of seeing it.

 

[UncleThursday]

Sometime last year, I saw something that really impressed me. A popular Colombian model was getting ready to do a public show...only her rule was, NO non tippers allowed. She had well over 50 premiums in her room after her announcement and she then started banning non-tippers. It was amazing, as quickly as she'd pare the room down to 10 or 12 premiums, shitloads of new premiums would storm in, and after being informed, and given time to tip, were also banned. lol She did this five or six times before she was satisfied that she had the group she wanted. She did a magnificent show and everyone tipped.

* yeah, I know this wouldn't work for every model, but still, I was impressed that it worked for her.

I know one model who has started doing member room shows, as it were. If she has a countdown, and only a few people really contribute to it, she'll let them know to look for a member room she makes, and adds them to her premium member account's friends list, and then sets the member room to friends only and to viewing her cam. The ones who paid for the show still get it, but the freeloaders do not.

She'll often let those of us who have been regulars and frequent (if not always high rolling) tippers in, if we want, as well. But, honestly, I don't even watch her shows anymore. I'm there and tip because I want to be there, not because I want a show from her. Other models? Yeah, I perv and tip/group/private because I want to get my rocks off. But a few models I dont hang with to see them naked or watch any shows they might do, anymore.

 

[victor0021]

I miss the old days when you could play in free chat a bit, but if you wanted a better show you went into a group and if you wanted the best show take the model private for one on one.

Me too. I don't do public cum shows and as of late I log off at the end of a shift without an orgasm more often than with. Either people wont join a group or no one requests private. I still have a really good time with the nude show I do but I enjoy getting off too! I will likely never do public shows but this is the one reason I've considered it in the past and a very likely reasons others have chose to do them.

If I ever see you online i'd love to do a private show with you, just for your avatar pic alone. If you are willing to wear that hat during it even better. :icon-wink:

 

[Anonymous]

This is a ridiculous thread. There's no reason why you need to come to a discussion board and boast to members and models alike about your ability to masturbate to our service for free. Whether you are directly asking for a service or not is irrelevant. You're still enjoying a show, getting off to it and walking away. You don't have to tip to a countdown to say thank you after a great show with a small tip. If you're just looking for porn, hit a tube site and let MFC have one less freeloader rationalizing why they don't tip anymore.

I agree. I'm not really sure what the purpose of this thread is, and why the OP felt it was appropriate to start a new thread, proudly admitting to freeloading with the intention of NOT tipping anymore. Weird.....

 

[LadyLuna]

UncleThursday- I was under the impression that a model selling shows off her member cam would be fined and/or banned, and had heard stories about such things happening. Has this rule gone the way of the other ones?

I could *so* see a model doing a "tip xxx a month for a ticket to all my member cam shows for that month!"

Not that I think it's a bad idea, in fact, if it seems safe to do so, I will probably do the member cam shows as a intermediate between letting those who can't currently but usually do tip in, and not letting those with no intention of ever tipping in.

 

[AmberCutie]

UncleThursday- I was under the impression that a model selling shows off her member cam would be fined and/or banned, and had heard stories about such things happening. Has this rule gone the way of the other ones?

That IS the case, as far as I've heard/know. I certainly would not risk my model account being banned or fined for doing this. Trust me, I wish I could, as it would let me do a "tip-in" for a show and just allow those who have tipped or my very generous regulars see my show without the confines of a group or a countdown to a public show.

But I don't want my model account penalized, so I operate within the guidelines of usual model account rules.

 

[Evvie]

UncleThursday- I was under the impression that a model selling shows off her member cam would be fined and/or banned, and had heard stories about such things happening. Has this rule gone the way of the other ones?

I could *so* see a model doing a "tip xxx a month for a ticket to all my member cam shows for that month!"

Not that I think it's a bad idea, in fact, if it seems safe to do so, I will probably do the member cam shows as a intermediate between letting those who can't currently but usually do tip in, and not letting those with no intention of ever tipping in.

It sounds like in this situation, the model is working and selling the show on her model account, but if things are slow makes it a private show on her members account, thus not circumventing the camscore rules.

 

[UncleThursday]

UncleThursday- I was under the impression that a model selling shows off her member cam would be fined and/or banned, and had heard stories about such things happening. Has this rule gone the way of the other ones?

I could *so* see a model doing a "tip xxx a month for a ticket to all my member cam shows for that month!"

Not that I think it's a bad idea, in fact, if it seems safe to do so, I will probably do the member cam shows as a intermediate between letting those who can't currently but usually do tip in, and not letting those with no intention of ever tipping in.

She doesn't sell the shows that way. It's more a "well, the countdown was for X, and only 5 people put in for it and finished it; while everyone else sat there not tipping" type thing. Then those 5 people get MFC mails saying to look for the room when it pops up and the model goes offline and relogs as her premium account. As en example.

It's rare she ends up doing those, though. She's popular enough that enough people normally tip towards the show to get the countdown done. But it has happened once or twice on slow days.

I don't know about the rules about selling member cam shows, but I think as an alternative to having one or a few guys tipping all of a countdown and then an entire room of freeloaders getting it, it works. The people who paid get what they paid for, the people hoping others paid for it don't get shit.

Or as I go to post this, Amber and Evvie cue in. Evvie is correct in how it goes. It's not a way to circumvent camscore (her camscore is on the high side), it's just something when only a few people complete an entire countdown when her room has hundreds watching (and begging).

 

[LadyLuna]

I wasn't thinking of it as a way to circumvent camscore either O.O

I meant, model sits online in her model account, sells these slots, and once a day logs off to do the member shows. If it were me doing it, I wouldn't do anything during those member shows that I couldn't do during a group or private. And it would be no worse than doing a skype show for tokens.

I kinda like that business model... but I don't like breaking rules. So of course, I probably won't do it.

Then again, I'm not THAT attached to my MFC account anymore... so I dunno. That might be the one rule I end up breaking.

 

[Jaydenrainey]

oy this thread. My real issue with the o.p is he doesn't seem to recognize that models are people not items. I don't blame models who do free shows, if that works for them cool. I blame MFC for not enforcing a rule that they made which is now nothing but a joke. Even then i dont really blame MFC because they are a business and why would they do something if they don't have to and still make money. They should just take down that rule though. I can't work mfc anymore though, i'm not gonna lie the site seems downright trashy sometimes (not the models, the freeloaders). Part of it is because of the mindset most members have. Of course there are great people who make it worth it to work there but for me that was so few and far between i couldn't handle it. Alot of girls have moved to Streamate and the more members who develop a mindset like o.p possibly the more models who will switch sites. Whenever i read or hear it's my FREE cams i just roll my eyes. All that infers is there is no month to month membership price and it's just a ploy to get people in. It doesn't mean members should make it their mantra or push it in a girls face when she expects to be paid for the time, creativity and hard work she puts into camming.

 

[JoleneBrody]

I miss the old days when you could play in free chat a bit, but if you wanted a better show you went into a group and if you wanted the best show take the model private for one on one.

Me too. I don't do public cum shows and as of late I log off at the end of a shift without an orgasm more often than with. Either people wont join a group or no one requests private. I still have a really good time with the nude show I do but I enjoy getting off too! I will likely never do public shows but this is the one reason I've considered it in the past and a very likely reasons others have chose to do them.

If I ever see you online i'd love to do a private show with you, just for your avatar pic alone. If you are willing to wear that hat during it even better. :icon-wink:

 

[UncleThursday]

I'll post a ral post about the topic after I get some sleep...

But JJ, I just want to say, the new forum pic is awesometastic. :-D

 

[loveyougipsy]

I think some of this can be boiled down to, "Are you one that pays for the coffee at work, when there is a contribution jar" or "Do you freeload the coffee"? (Bagels in the link)

Of course the internet throws another variable into the mix. http://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/WhatTheBagelManSaw.pdf

The reason I generally tip:

How selfish soever man may be supposed, there are evidently some principles in his nature, which interest him in the fortune of others, and render their happiness necessary to him, though he derives nothing from it except the pleasure of seeing it.

That was an interesting read. It would be nice if it could be balanced by looking at the companies where payment rates were lower and what influence the way the company treats it's staff has on the employees decision to pay.
Do they value their employees or just treat them as numbers who can be replaced?

 

[southsamurai]

wow, just wow.

a couple of useless inputs.
1: yes im a chronic freeloader. the the models who run the rooms i hang in know why. I freely explain it if asked, and leave if not wanted.

2:yay trolls! they do make life interesting

3: in all the various examples, allegories, similes etc... no one used the one that is most directly related to the ambiance of MFC. the " gentleman's club" you pay a cover to get in the door, but the entertainers there don't see a dime of that, which is the equivalent of the cut MFC takes per token. you may then enter the greater area near the stage, or bar and enjoy the gentle gyrations of the ladies around. every once in a while a guy will do so and never tip a lady on the stage, never get a lap or private dance, nor even buy a drink. such individuals are prone to the attentions of yer friendly neighborhood bouncer if they get rude (aka the ban button). much like MFC all income received by the entertainers is generated by tips, at least in any club ive ever been to, heard of or bounced in. within that specific culture a freeloader is ignored by the management unless they become problematic, or get too sloppily drunk. heck the place i bounced at had a small number of regular freeloaders who just came in to drink, never even looking at the stage. go figure.

it can still be said that those freeloaders were regarded with a bit of disdain by the entertainers. even if one did decide to eventually pony up his cash for some personal entertainment most of the ladies would be busy. not quite a ban button, but similar to muting guests and basics. it must be said that unlike MFC the majority of patrons did tip, even if in small bills and quantities.

not defending freeloaders, nor MFC, nor anyone at all, just adding in a ramble for my own entertainment.

oh another note:thank you to those models whose dulcet voices and laughter have provided me with a surcease of loneliness over the past few years. it is greatly appreciated

 

[Bocefish]

As far as there being way more public/free shows now as compared to a couple years ago... ABSOLUTELY!

Even new models are doing them without hesitation, no fear of being fined or reprimanded whatsoever.

If someone new visits MFC solely to bust a nut, there is little to no reason for him or her to become a member unless they desire a more intimate one on one interaction. Even then, many models don't do private shows, so for some newer members, that's just another reason not to join.

The lounges used to be a cool place to hang out, but now they're just filled with pimps and people that have nothing better to do.

I miss the old MFC :crybaby:

 

[KristinKervz]

I know that my heart can't be the only one in this world that skips a beat or two just from the smile on someone's face when they receive a tip from me.
I often give waitresses what is surely the biggest tip of her day or week. I tip models when they least expect it just to see them smile - even if it's just a few tokens, I know it will make them smile. The nice man that carries my luggage into my hotel room. The maid. "Keep the change" to the fast food workers and grocery store cashiers. While I'll admit that my reason for tipping most of the time is for my selfish desire to feel that high, at least I know that I have made someone smile.

I didn't post this to make everyone think I'm such a nice person. It's just that I truly can't understand how anyone could not enjoy that feeling.

 

[AllisonWilder]

I'm not a high-roller when it comes to tokens, but I'm a lot like Kristin when it comes to tips! I don't tip for countdowns, shows, or prizes, but I LOVE to tip when I can even if for no other reason than to just say to the model (in a private tip note, of course) that I know her from here or think she's adorable. It makes me smile to tip. Probably more so than the model I've tipped.

 

[nzhere]

I miss the old MFC :crybaby:

Perhaps something the model can enable/disable at their discretion

a new Option for all 2500+ camscore models?
"ENTRY to this room is FREE but requires a PREMIUM member account"

for the 5000+ girls
an additional
"Entry to this room is currently only available to PREMIUM members with tokens"

 

[Anonymous]

for the 5000+ girls
an additional
"Entry to this room is currently only available to PREMIUM members with tokens"

If I were to one day become a 5000+ cam score model (that'd be awesome), I know that I'd still want my regulars to be able to visit my room and talk, whether they have tokens or not.

But I agree with you that if MFC ever did something like that, it should be OPTIONAL for models.

 

[Matt255]

I agree with the op I'm going throw my :twocents-02cents: in. Where are these free shows? Every show I have seen tips were given to at least start the show. There has been a lot of talk about freeloaders and the way MFC handles public shows. It seems that models are complaining that this is hurting them financially. Now yes being a premium and not contributing to a room you are in is being a douche bag. I do not see how for most MFC can be your only source of income. What works for one may not work all. You go where the money is plain and simple. (Rant about public shows) When I contribute to a public show with a couple of other premiums I hate when the model stops during to complain. Complaining about not getting tips threatening to stop. That is unfair to all those who tipped for the show. We all finished the countdown which stated at 4k cum show. Now the cum show has stopped because of "freeloaders". If that was the case you should have initiated a group. I was in one particular model room who was stopped a cum show because even though she was receiving a steady amount tips, she didn't like that the tips were never more then 100 tokens. Also when a model states there are 2500 people in the room. 1800 of them are guests and like 400 basics. Premiums who can tip are always the minority in a room at any given time (Rant Over). Plus there is a lot of competition on MFC. One model has a countdown 4k to get me naked when another model has 4k to see me squirt. I have noticed that Lolita, teen, barely legal, and is Chris Hansen going to come to my house models are very popular these days. I tip now just for videos because they are gift that keeps on giving.