User request to be banned from viewing a model

[moj]

A month ago I had an irreparable falling out with a model.

Being incredibly weak-willed I’m unable to stop myself from watching her, despite feeling unable to ‘participate’ in any way.

She refuses to ban me, despite my increasingly pathetic PM requests asking her to do so.

Is it possible for SC Support to ban me from watching her? A support agent has told me it can’t be done, but surely there must be occasions where users need help to break this sort of compulsive behaviour?

 

[KellyCarolina]

just click the 3 dots and then click "not interested" with the eye closed button...

 

[moj]

just click the 3 dots and then click "not interested" with the eye closed button...

Hi Kelly! I’ve plenty of ‘not interested’ models, but there problem is that I *am* interested in this one!

I can ‘avoid’ her for a few days, but then I relapse… what I’m after is a ban/block which I’m unable to circumvent myself.

 

[BlueEyezIrish]

A month ago I had an irreparable falling out with a model.

Being incredibly weak-willed I’m unable to stop myself from watching her, despite feeling unable to ‘participate’ in any way.

She refuses to ban me, despite my increasingly pathetic PM requests asking her to do so.

Is it possible for SC Support to ban me from watching her? A support agent has told me it can’t be done, but surely there must be occasions where users need help to break this sort of compulsive behaviour?

When dudes say stuff like this I think some sites put your account in a mental health break and you are not allowed to login. Sounds like you really need one and now. Good Luck!

 

[ElGato]

just click the 3 dots and then click "not interested" with the eye closed button...

If self-control is the problem, he could still go to the page that shows everyone he's marked as "not interested" and still access the model.

 

[MarieElise]

This happens more than you guys would think.

As a viewer if I truly felt this way, I would close my account and write support and ask them to ban my IP, name and credit cards. It's not on the model. This is also part of certain fetishes, so...

 

[misterical]

If self-control is the problem, he could still go to the page that shows everyone he's marked as "not interested" and still access the model.

Yeah, any kind of banning of his account without associated self control is pointless in an industry when you can just spin up a grey account with a ringer email address. The irony being that the thing that makes it so hard for models to ban stalker members, also works against members who want to be banned for their own mental wellbeing. There's a definite feeling that there is a greater desire to generate money in this industry than there is to protect models and members.

 

[KellyCarolina]

And if he can be banned from particular model, what if he becomes addicted to another? and banned from the site? go to another site... This is something much bigger than banning from just 1 model

 

[MarieElise]

Yeah, any kind of banning of his account without associated self control is pointless in an industry when you can just spin up a grey account with a ringer email address. The irony being that the thing that makes it so hard for models to ban stalker members, also works against members who want to be banned for their own mental wellbeing. There's a definite feeling that there is a greater desire to generate money in this industry than there is to protect models and members.

To be fair, not on every site, though. I've read a ton of threads for CB, where viewers have been put on protective bans because they asked to be. And then had the hardest time getting back on, once they felt better. I guess what I learned from that is; if you feel that way, be sure, before you ask for support for a protective ban. Because they're not just gonna take their time to ban and unban you every 3 days. Which is fair, if you go as far as to ask for a protective ban from a site support, imo that should be it. Especially when some people are waiting 3-4 weeks for responses to tickets. Like don't clog up the resources, until you're sure. Then don't go back on it. Just my bias tho.

 

[Stella_SC]

Hello @moj

I am so sorry to hear that you are dealing with this compulsive behavior.

On our end, we do not interfere with a model's ability to choose what users they ban or not ban - and we do not override the model's decision. In this case, she has chosen to not ban you for whatever reason and we respect the model's choice.

Perhaps a better solution might be to reach out for help for your mental well being / compulsive behavior? I know that Pineapple Support caters to people who work in the industry, not users, but perhaps they could offer you some guidance or point you in the right direction as to where to go.

I have the same fears that the above posters mentioned: even if we could assist you by banning you from viewing her, you might just:
- pick another model
- create a new account to continue watching her
- come back to support looking for us to undo the ban a few days later
- hop to another site and repeat the compulsion

I wish you all the best in your recovery .

 

[rockin_rod]

In addition to the willpower question to stay away, the reason for the 'irrepairable falling out' is likely relevant.
Hope you can break the cycle OP, but really it's up to you to take responsibility to stay off cam sites for a while.

 

[moj]

Hello @moj

On our end, we do not interfere with a model's ability to choose what users they ban or not ban - and we do not override the model's decision. In this case, she has chosen to not ban you for whatever reason and we respect the model's choice.

Hi Stella, I was hoping you’d see this (I’ve been lurking here for many months). Thanks for confirming that such a ban isn’t possible.

It appears I’ve over-dramatised my situation! It’s simply one model who I’d rather was put beyond my reach. I’m unwilling to interact with her in public chat either by writing or tipping, which I find incredibly dull (I’d make a terrible grey). Every 2-3 days I’ll watch her for ten minutes, then spend half an hour going round in circles with her in PMs.

I don’t believe a similar situation would arise with any of the other models I closely follow; if we had a ‘break-up’ I would trust them to either ban me unilaterally, or ban me at my request.

In short, I don’t think I have ‘a problem’, I think I have ‘one problem’.

But I’m surprised there is no way in which a user can irreversibly block a model. I would have imagined it was a fairly common request, whether it’s the result of a fall-out, an emotional over-dependency, or compulsive spending on that model.

Anyway… thanks again for the official version, and thank you to everyone else who replied. As a new account I appear to be unable to upvote at present.

 

[moj]

In addition to the willpower question to stay away, the reason for the 'irrepairable falling out' is likely relevant.
Hope you can break the cycle OP, but really it's up to you to take responsibility to stay off cam sites for a while.

Hi Rod, as I said immediately above, I consider it a singular situation rather than a potential pattern of behaviour. I greatly enjoy interacting with my faves, and I’ve no intention of leaving.

It’s the tale of a possessive sugar-daddy knight giving her a ‘me or him’ ultimatum, leading to her making the correct financial decision to unknight me (her only other knight).

Which I’d have been okay with had she told me beforehand - bruised pride but I’d have got over it - but I only found out I’d been demoted when I went to shut down a grey who was repeatedly stating where he wanted to put his unfeasibly large penis.

Apparently not the first time it’s happened; he represents at least 25% of her SC income and more off-site, and watches every moment of every session which to my mind is *weird*. He basically won’t tolerate her appointing another knight.

Anyway… I felt ‘betrayed’ by her insensitivity, and I was uncomfortable being in chat with him, and consequently my visits became less frequent and our DMs more and more terse.

After a few weeks I asked her to ban me. And it’s gone from her being unwilling to do so because she ‘loves me and wants me there’, via increasingly passive-aggressive messages from me, to what I see as her taking some kind of malicious pleasure in not banning me.

A prosaic story, probably amusingly pathetic to the reader, but it’s quite cathartic to type it out!

 

[BlueEyezIrish]

Tale of the 2 Knights.

 

[moj]

Tale of the 2 Knights.

Heh… one of my many SC observations is that the optimal number of knights is either ‘none’ or ‘lots’.

 

[Maxi]

Addicts gonna addict

 

[misterical]

So this story started out like it was all about addiction and it turns out that it's about wounded pride. Just close the browser mate. He'll eventually be gone anyway. Those guys always throw themselves under the bus with that behaviour eventually.

It sounds like both of you are way too obsessed with her and need to get a grip of yourselves.

 

[Maxi]

So this story started out like it was all about addiction and it turns out that it's about wounded pride. Just close the browser mate. He'll eventually be gone anyway. Those guys always throw themselves under the bus with that behaviour eventually.

Sounds like both.

 

[NotYou]

I don't get it... if you LIKE the model, who the fuck cares if you are a knight in her room or not? If you enjoy her, like to tip her and/or take her for shows, continue it, enjoy her, have fun. Understand (like you pretend you do) from her side she needs to do what she needs to do to keep the money rolling in.


I feel like maybe you shouldn't be a knight and she did the right thing if you care this much about it, acting like a child who wants to cry just because you're no longer one. I see guys like you all the time, and it's both funny and sad at the same time. Guys who care too much about being a knight/mod of a room should never be one because you're doing it for yourself and not for the good of the model.

Addicted or not, you have 1 of 2 choices: go cold turkey and "get over her" or if you like HER and enjoy time with her (as I mentioned above), go do it. Maybe her other knight will eventually mute you and get her to ban you, who knows. Just don't be a dick and make her life difficult if you like her, she gets that shit no doubt from morons already.

 

[Marceline]

I don't get it... if you LIKE the model, who the fuck cares if you are a knight in her room or not? If you enjoy her, like to tip her and/or take her for shows, continue it, enjoy her, have fun. Understand (like you pretend you do) from her side she needs to do what she needs to do to keep the money rolling in.

Misterical hit it spot on, it’s all about his wounded pride. His ego took a blow by being de-knighted. He wanted to make a huge show of being banned, either because he thought he would be banned and he wanted it to seem like it was his choice to protect his ego or because he thought it would hurt the model. Her not giving in is further hurting his pride/ego, so he’s turning to support to ban him so he can have the “final say” and not her. That’s my take on it, anyway.

I feel like had she banned him at the request of the whale at the beginning of all this, he’d be doing the opposite of what he’s doing now and trying to find a way to circumvent the ban.

 

[Smoothie]

Misterical hit it spot on, it’s all about his wounded pride. His ego took a blow by being de-knighted. He wanted to make a huge show of being banned, either because he thought he would be banned and he wanted it to seem like it was his choice to protect his ego or because he thought it would hurt the model. Her not giving in is further hurting his pride/ego, so he’s turning to support to ban him so he can have the “final say” and not her. That’s my take on it, anyway.

I feel like had she banned him at the request of the whale at the beginning of all this, he’d be doing the opposite of what he’s doing now and trying to find a way to circumvent the ban.

Another thing Misterical said that rings true - I believe possessive knights/mods like that will probably wear out their welcome with the model, probably when a bigger whale shows up and takes priority over him & he unsuccessfully throws a fit over it.

And if I had to guess, the model may be reluctant to ban OP because the new knight has already shown he’s a difficult customer who threatens to leave, and she realizes his time there may be short-lived anyway.

But, that should only matter to the OP if he’s invested in continuing to follow this story, which for his own mental health, is probably a bad idea.

 

[Ich Bin]

Another thing Misterical said that rings true - I believe possessive knights/mods like that will probably wear out their welcome with the model, probably when a bigger whale shows up and takes priority over him & he unsuccessfully throws a fit over it.

And if I had to guess, the model may be reluctant to ban OP because the new knight has already shown he’s a difficult customer who threatens to leave, and she realizes his time there may be short-lived anyway.

But, that should only matter to the OP if he’s invested in continuing to follow this story, which for his own mental health, is probably a bad idea.

Agree. Now that he's turning his back & trying to walk away, he needs to keep his back turned & keep walking away. As quickly as he can.
(I know that's easy for me to say.)

 

[Ich Bin]

Misterical hit it spot on, it’s all about his wounded pride. His ego took a blow by being de-knighted. He wanted to make a huge show of being banned, either because he thought he would be banned and he wanted it to seem like it was his choice to protect his ego or because he thought it would hurt the model. Her not giving in is further hurting his pride/ego, so he’s turning to support to ban him so he can have the “final say” and not her. That’s my take on it, anyway.

I feel like had she banned him at the request of the whale at the beginning of all this, he’d be doing the opposite of what he’s doing now and trying to find a way to circumvent the ban.

Marceline, it didn't occur to me in the beginning but your take on it does tie a lot together.

 

[Slapstick]

It’s the tale of a possessive sugar-daddy knight giving her a ‘me or him’ ultimatum, leading to her making the correct financial decision to unknight me (her only other knight).

Waaaay too much drama. Are you there to visit with the model or be a Knight? She said she wanted you there and that you understood why she did what she did, so why all the drama? Are you that fragile?

The solution is:

1. Log in
2. Take her private
3. Have a wank
4. Log off

Stop being an overly sensitive douche nozzle.