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So if it turns out wire transfer to an account in your name is the only option, what are your plans? Does anyone know of loadable card services like FCP that will accept wire transfers? Also, I imagine since this will be a wire transfer from Choice Bank, we shouldn't run into problems with services not wanting to deal with adult work.
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I am feeling the burn after this whole first choice situation, still awaiting verification from Paxum 
I'm in South Africa so cheques are out , and my funds are way below wire transfer minimum..... Any one else got any ways of payouts I don't know about? I'm even considering sites that pay out in crypto currency but not finding any, who's tried that?
I'm in South Africa so cheques are out , and my funds are way below wire transfer minimum..... Any one else got any ways of payouts I don't know about? I'm even considering sites that pay out in crypto currency but not finding any, who's tried that?I just received this mail:
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Below is an important message from Choice Bank Limited regarding your Firstchoice Pay Prepaid Card.
Dear Cardholder,
As you may be aware from communications with your Program Manager, with us or otherwise, there have been significant changes in Choice Bank Limited’s (“we” or “the Bank”) ability to offer Mastercard-branded or Cirrus-branded payment (a.k.a. prepaid) cards (“Cards”).
In connection therewith, and in accordance with the applicable terms and conditions of use of the Cards as set forth in our cardmember agreement with you (“Agreement”), effective June 30, 2018 (“Termination Date”), use of all Cards will be wholly discontinued, and the Agreement shall come to an end, unless sooner terminated. In furtherance of the Agreement, we require that you either destroy your Card or surrender same to us by mailing same to us at Choice Bank Ltd., Ground floor Paradise Point Building, PO Box #2494, Belize City, Belize, Central America on or after the Termination Date.
In the meantime, we strongly encourage you to spend all remaining balances on your Card prior to the Termination Date. Any remaining balances on your Card as of the Termination Date will be returned to you, less wire fees of US$100, upon receipt and confirmation of complete and updated identification satisfactory to us. There may also be additional fees if required due to enhanced due diligence costs.
We thank you for your kind cooperation.
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Below is an important message from Choice Bank Limited regarding your Firstchoice Pay Prepaid Card.
Dear Cardholder,
As you may be aware from communications with your Program Manager, with us or otherwise, there have been significant changes in Choice Bank Limited’s (“we” or “the Bank”) ability to offer Mastercard-branded or Cirrus-branded payment (a.k.a. prepaid) cards (“Cards”).
In connection therewith, and in accordance with the applicable terms and conditions of use of the Cards as set forth in our cardmember agreement with you (“Agreement”), effective June 30, 2018 (“Termination Date”), use of all Cards will be wholly discontinued, and the Agreement shall come to an end, unless sooner terminated. In furtherance of the Agreement, we require that you either destroy your Card or surrender same to us by mailing same to us at Choice Bank Ltd., Ground floor Paradise Point Building, PO Box #2494, Belize City, Belize, Central America on or after the Termination Date.
In the meantime, we strongly encourage you to spend all remaining balances on your Card prior to the Termination Date. Any remaining balances on your Card as of the Termination Date will be returned to you, less wire fees of US$100, upon receipt and confirmation of complete and updated identification satisfactory to us. There may also be additional fees if required due to enhanced due diligence costs.
We thank you for your kind cooperation.
From who exactly did you get this email?
And I think Youcandy just took advantage of the sittuation and if they get the money back they will just hold the money for them...
I received this too from email@firstchoicepay.com
I don't understand if they mean thant only the amount I have on the card will be returned by wire or the amount I have on choice bank too?
I don't understand if they mean thant only the amount I have on the card will be returned by wire or the amount I have on choice bank too?
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I asked to customer service , it regards only who has money on the card. For whom has money on Choice account there's no news.
How does that make any sense? A camsite that keeps its money directly at a payment processor like fcp and not on a bank account?
Maybe they didn t even kept the money there and they just used this argue to shut off the business and dissapear with peoples money
Today I received a message from Spotify saying that my monthly pay was accepted and I was like "WTF" 'cause I couldn't use the 9 dollars that I had in my account but NOW, I can apparently use my money, to confirm this I went to the market and bought cigs (the only thing I could buy so far) Buuuut I wonder.... WHERE'S THE MONEY THAT I CHANGED FROM CB THE PAST APRIL 14th??? That amount of money was NEVER charged to my card. I checked and I haven't got an e-mail, from CH or First Choice to clear it out. Also we have a death-line June 30, 2018, to spend it.
Any ideas?
I hope you all have the power to use your money now!!
Any ideas?
I hope you all have the power to use your money now!!
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I thinking same as you Kriss.....
I thinking same as you Kriss.....
It was a problem in my case, I couldn't use that 9 dollars and now it's possible.
Anyway I don't care about it, just the money that I charged and NEVER appeared in my account or money ballance.
Practically it is from FCP and Choice Bank...
I want virtual balance money... don t care about a few bucks from card balance
It's really strange . Everything turn to that choice bank. According to the news choice bank is under liquidity. But now we can use the money from the card. That's mean the government have open for choice bank . I just sent email for to phase2 and asked them to wire the funds to my Bank as soon as possible.
The prepaid card and the virtual account are two very different things!
The prepaid card is issued by Mastercard (even if it has a different branding) and is a standard prepaid credit card, which means the money on the card is guarantueed by Mastercard, not by Choice Bank or FCP. When money is loaded on that card it is actually paid to Mastercard. Mastercard is regulated by US and EU banking rules as a financial institution.
So the money on the card is not part of the restraints Choice Bank is under and can be used till the end of June, per the information supplied.
The virtual account is basically just a spreadsheet at FCP which lists who is owned what money, but that money is most likely in one account (in the name of FCP) at Choice Bank and that money is blocked right now.
Bank accounts and credit cards are technically and legally two very separate things. Choice Bank is regulated by the banking laws of Belize, Mastercard is regulated by a completely different set of laws (US laws for their US company and EU laws for their EU company).
I know it gets confusing at times, especially since the marketing and branding by third party payment processors like FCP does not make it very clear how they operate.
To summarize:
The money on your prepaid card is in your name and held in a bank account from Mastercard.
The money on your virtual account is not in your name and held in a bank account at Choice Bank in the name of FCP.
The prepaid card is issued by Mastercard (even if it has a different branding) and is a standard prepaid credit card, which means the money on the card is guarantueed by Mastercard, not by Choice Bank or FCP. When money is loaded on that card it is actually paid to Mastercard. Mastercard is regulated by US and EU banking rules as a financial institution.
So the money on the card is not part of the restraints Choice Bank is under and can be used till the end of June, per the information supplied.
The virtual account is basically just a spreadsheet at FCP which lists who is owned what money, but that money is most likely in one account (in the name of FCP) at Choice Bank and that money is blocked right now.
Bank accounts and credit cards are technically and legally two very separate things. Choice Bank is regulated by the banking laws of Belize, Mastercard is regulated by a completely different set of laws (US laws for their US company and EU laws for their EU company).
I know it gets confusing at times, especially since the marketing and branding by third party payment processors like FCP does not make it very clear how they operate.
To summarize:
The money on your prepaid card is in your name and held in a bank account from Mastercard.
The money on your virtual account is not in your name and held in a bank account at Choice Bank in the name of FCP.
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Thank you for this! I haven't cammed for about 6 months now but I still had a lot of money on that card. I'm useless at finances and the jargon goes way over my head.
The e-mail states that the "Termination Date" is June 30 and it gave me the impression that after that date, I wouldn't be able to access those funds at all. But I should be okay going forward, right? It's a pre-paid card, after all...
No, your prepaid card is valid till 30 June, so you want to empty it before that date or you will have to pay a huge fee to get the balance wired to you.
This means that very likely Mastercard canceled their contract with Choice Bank. In those cases Mastercard normally gives you some time to empty the card.
This means that very likely Mastercard canceled their contract with Choice Bank. In those cases Mastercard normally gives you some time to empty the card.
If you will check the screenshot you will see the exact same sittuation with payoneer, the only difference is that they announced their clients to take the money out on 21 March...so they had 20 days before us...
5000$(per day) x 20 days until 10april = 100k to withdraw for every FCP client in advance before all this shit hit us...
I told you 2 weeks ago that FCP knew this will happen with 6 months before it did, but some of you appreciated my comment like "bad troll attempt" because ofcourse everyone knows everything but in fact noone knows nothing...
FCP KNEW FROM 6 MONTHS AGO!!!
So now I am thinking why would they want to do this to us?
-choice bank needed our funds for a while and FCP accepted the sittuation
-choice bank will bankrupt with our money and FCP accepted the sittuation
-FCP has an agreement to steal all our money
-FCP was just careless with their clients
-FCP and Choice was forced by authorities to go with this and force everyone (if they will give the money) to a wire transfer just to make us pay more
Take it how you want, to me it is 100% clear that FCP-Payoneer is guilty for everything that is happening right now and they just forced misinformed people to speak with us on the phone and to calm us with their own words (different for every client, different from every employee)
5000$(per day) x 20 days until 10april = 100k to withdraw for every FCP client in advance before all this shit hit us...
I told you 2 weeks ago that FCP knew this will happen with 6 months before it did, but some of you appreciated my comment like "bad troll attempt" because ofcourse everyone knows everything but in fact noone knows nothing...
FCP KNEW FROM 6 MONTHS AGO!!!
So now I am thinking why would they want to do this to us?
-choice bank needed our funds for a while and FCP accepted the sittuation
-choice bank will bankrupt with our money and FCP accepted the sittuation
-FCP has an agreement to steal all our money
-FCP was just careless with their clients
-FCP and Choice was forced by authorities to go with this and force everyone (if they will give the money) to a wire transfer just to make us pay more
Take it how you want, to me it is 100% clear that FCP-Payoneer is guilty for everything that is happening right now and they just forced misinformed people to speak with us on the phone and to calm us with their own words (different for every client, different from every employee)
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We have all the guilt in the world for keeping so much money in a virtual acccount in the Belize 
Tricked by Payonner, Fkcd by FCP )
Tricked by Payonner, Fkcd by FCP )
If they told us to withdraw as well, the bank would be gone to bankrophsy for sure, maybe even earlier then their "beloved customers of payoneer" would have time to get out it all. So we are sacrificed for "grater good".
We have already said is likely that payoneer caused this to bank because of their annoncement to withdraw...
We have already said is likely that payoneer caused this to bank because of their annoncement to withdraw...
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