This model that I had been doing private with almost every week for the past 2 years apparantly stopped doing nude shows. I didn't see her on MFC for over a month and I finally saw her. She said she wasn't working on MFC as much because she found a new job. I figured since I had not gone private with her in so long I would take her for a long true private. When I was in private I noticed that she wasn't getting nude after a long time and usually she would have been nude and playing with herself at that point even in regular private. Also I noticed it looked like she wasn't watching my cam because it didn't show her as watching on the screen. I asked her if she could see me and she said yeah but I feel like she was lieing to me. The whole time she was just sitting there in her underwear and never got nude. She even put more clothes on at one point and i was like i'm gonna run out of tokens before the naughty part in a joking kind of way. Unfortunately MFC crashed while we were in private and was taking my tokens even after I ended the show. So I had to actually put tokens in storage to stop it from taking all my tokens. I'm just wondering from a models point of view why might she do this. Did i do something that made her uncomfortable or is it possible that she is stressed because of her new job.
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ThePrincessLuxy
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It sounds like she has to protect her professional career. You should respect that. Just because a model used to do nude doesn't mean she has to continue doing nude.
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True, but she should have made it clear at some point what her new boundaries were. I can imagine feeling scammed if I was OP. Like I stopped doing boob flashes in free chat and took them off the menu. The only time I had a dude upset about it was somebody who came back after a year and never asked before throwing $5 in for a flash.
Avoiding the subject doesn't do much good.
Avoiding the subject doesn't do much good.
I totally respect that she doesn't do nude shows anymore. I was just wondering why she might not. That makes sense that she would want to protect her career. I don't know what kind of job it is. She didn't tell me and I don't want to be nosy about it so I don't ask her what the job is. I won't take her private anymore unless she asks me to. Otherwise I will just tip her in public to help her out when she is online.
I think she might have been afraid I would be upset. It is rather upsetting but since I like her as a person I will still talk to her and visit her chatroom when she is online. I might not spend as much but i will still tip her. She probably knew that I would spend less and that might have made her afraid to say anything about it but like you said avoiding the subject doesn't do much good. I will forgive her though because I think she means well and is a nice person.
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There are many reasons why she might have switched to non-nude:
1) Someone shared a recording of one of her privates online and she didn't like it.
2) She got outed to her family and friends and prefers not to do it anymore.
3) Her new job is providing more money for her so she is more confident in doing less since she wont risk all her income.
4) She realized she can be non-nude and earn the same or more.
5) She simply doesn't feel like it anymore.
6) She has some sort of issue with you personally.
Unless you ask her and she wants to confide in you I don't think we will ever know why she chose to stop getting naked. It could be any of the reasons above, or 1000s of reasons that didn't occur to me.
Depends... if she has been non-nude for a year she might asume everyone knows. We don't even know if OP read her profile. There might be a statement there.
1) Someone shared a recording of one of her privates online and she didn't like it.
2) She got outed to her family and friends and prefers not to do it anymore.
3) Her new job is providing more money for her so she is more confident in doing less since she wont risk all her income.
4) She realized she can be non-nude and earn the same or more.
5) She simply doesn't feel like it anymore.
6) She has some sort of issue with you personally.
Unless you ask her and she wants to confide in you I don't think we will ever know why she chose to stop getting naked. It could be any of the reasons above, or 1000s of reasons that didn't occur to me.
Depends... if she has been non-nude for a year she might asume everyone knows. We don't even know if OP read her profile. There might be a statement there.
I did send her a couple MFC emails to ask her why but she doesn't usually respond to them. So I won't keep asking because I don't want to stress her. I think she might have social anxiety because she has told that she is shy. I have social anxiety issues myself so I can understand her being shy to talk sometimes since I've been that way my whole life as well.
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I'm getting the impression that you want to complain about the fact that she went non-nude, but you're trying hard not to because you don't want to piss off any of the models on here. If you're upset about it that's ok. If my favorite model on MfC went non-nude that would upset me too. Just accept the fact that she isn't getting nude anymore and find a new favorite model on MFC.
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But if she's non-nude you can't see her boobs.Non-nude can be just as sexy if not sexier!
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I feel sorry for you that you can't see how much more complicated, expansive, and/or subtle the sexual spectrum can be.
Either that or your joke fell flat.
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Dude,have you ever thought that her going non-nude is a great business decision for her? Sure, non-nude camming has it challenges but many of us non-nude models enjoy sexually entertaining our audiences in different ways. Maybe she became a domme or submissive who enjoys fetish shows? Maybe she has a hidden talent and found that she could entertain more as non-nude? Maybe she found the GFE or sugarbaby niche to be more tempting? Anyways, the possibilities are endless and she does not need to explain her decision to anyone. She is doing what is best for her business and herself right now
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Why did you give me a turd? Did you think I was trying to shame you for being a non-nude model?
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I don't feel you were trolling, but simply didn't understand, so I'll see if I can take a crack at it.
I can't speak for Mags, but I can tell you why I facepalmed ya at least. For many, it doesn't matter at all if you can see a person without clothes. Lots of folks want to be seduced by a person's actions and ways of thinking. Despite how I cam, I'm honestly one of those who tends to hang out with non-nude models as well, and often for that reason.
Don't get me wrong. I appreciate beauty of a naked woman, but if that's all the shows are it's to me sorta like a movie with great special effects, but no plot. I tend to get bored with it.
Also something to consider- When I was on MFC from 2012-2014 I did tons of countdowns involving me naked. I never went non-nude by any stretch of the imagination, nor do I plan on it; however when I switched to private based sites I found that most members would leave if I immediately started stripping. At first I was thinking um...ouch, but I then started slowing down with stripping. A few would ask me to go faster, but most would try to stop me before I'd be showing anything at all. The guys who wanted me to stop did so because they actually wanted a non-nude show. This often will involve me watching their cam, and directing them with jerk off instruction. Some want a domme to humiliate them, and don't feel they should be allowed to see me naked. Clothing worship is also a thing. Some want tease and denial where I act for a moment as if I'm going to show them something then don't...there are actually a lot more scenarios out there than even that, but I don't feel like going through all of my notes on previous paid chats and typing them out.
I didn't think a non-nude model would make as much when I first started, but after seeing the pay increase from simply only doing exclusives on SM, and finding out exactly what they want first...yeah I can believe it. I personally love being an exhibitionist, but I honestly rarely even get topless on live cam nowadays. I'd say in the 7hr shift I do each day, I get maybe maybe two paid chats where I'm asked to masturbate.
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Because I thought you were making a bad joke or baiting models... But now that I see you're actually serious I'll happily change it.
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I need to explain to you why I joined MFC. For a while I was sexually frustrated. Since I only like T&A and hate seeing wiener, hardcore pornography sites (including tube sites) were not an option. I looked into some softcore paysites, but those were mostly photosets. I only like streaming and nude selfies. When I heard about camsites I saw that as a potential alternative to paysites and I took that route. Yes I enjoy tipping models because they deserve to get money for the work that they do. However, I'm only turned on by nudity. I'm not turned on by any of the other stuff that they do. Also, unlike many other members I don't get emotionaly attached to any models.
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No, I don't think you did anything wrong. It could have something to do with her other job, or she just may have decided that she'd rather not offer nudity/masturbation anymore. I think it's reasonable to assume that a model will get naked in private if you haven't been told otherwise, but - for the future - it would save you some wasted time/money if you just PM the model before the private to ask if she's up for a little naked playtime (or however you guys word it...lol) in private.
I stopped offering dildo penetration (I just like vibrators), because I don't enjoy it as a show, and having a guy demand that I go "harder" and "deeper," and asking me every 10 seconds "Are you about to cum?" That shit is annoying, and I feel that guys like that put models in the awkward position of having to fake shit just to shut them up. Lmao.
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Yep. There are pretty much two types. There are the members who are there for a quick need to get off, and the ones who are bored/looking for someone they wanna hang with. Nothing wrong with how you do things, just not how we all go about it.
I think its understandable that you'd be upset. She has every right to become a none-nude model of course, but she should have let you know that before you started the private.
It seems that a lot of members just assume that a model is going to get nude in private and I think it'd be best for the model to just be upfront about it. Especially if she was once a nude model and now isn't, that's going to confuse her regulars and possibly upset people who thought they were paying for a nude show.
I agree with Songbird_Shelly that in the future you should ask a model if they are going to do nudity in private before paying for it. I think that a model should make it known what she will or won't provide, but obviously not all of them do and its you who loses out in the end.
It seems that a lot of members just assume that a model is going to get nude in private and I think it'd be best for the model to just be upfront about it. Especially if she was once a nude model and now isn't, that's going to confuse her regulars and possibly upset people who thought they were paying for a nude show.
I agree with Songbird_Shelly that in the future you should ask a model if they are going to do nudity in private before paying for it. I think that a model should make it known what she will or won't provide, but obviously not all of them do and its you who loses out in the end.
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I identify a lot with what @Ann_Sulu said in her post. Being open to different things you learn to appreciate different "flavors" of sexy and have a more refined palate. Hardcore is boring and predictable to me, different things excite me more, novelty is awesome, and also subtlety. This world is so diverse there are even many different types of non-nudes. Fetish and dommes, for example, which is a group that is often non-nude, does nothing for me, they don't excite me. Most of my time is spent visiting teasers, which is a completely different style of non-nude camming. Some of them are strictly non-nude, others do show something once every blue moon but it is always really mild. I love them and it is so sad that there are so few of us all around.
The first thing that is exciting about a non-nude teaser is that since there aren't pics of her naked on her profile and you don't get to tip 30 for a flash, seeing any part of her naked is an actual challenge. It is like having sex with someone for the first time, you get to recreate the excitement of seeing someone undress for the first time, every time you visit. There is also a very special kind of arousal that happens when she finally does show something. Seeing the shadow of an areola, trying to figure out the shape of her boobs through a thin fabric is exciting. There was a dead TV channel we used to get when I was a kid that in reality was an adult channel that my parents weren't paying for and the image was fucked (grainy dead channel with crazy colors and shapes, sort of like this:
but every so often you got to see the silhouette of a boob or something. And so many hours were wasted just trying to focus on the shapes and see "something". This is a feeling that you get to recreate in a non-nude or a teaser room that you don't really get in your every day life unless you are fucking a different virginal girl every week. It is a slow burn seduction sort of thing. Some people love to edge to a teaser too, since she will give 1 step forward and 2 steps back.
Being a straight woman I love teasers too because I am not seeing anything explicit in my face. I don't see her doign a spread eagle and pushing a dildo up her ass. Not that I have anything against it, I just feel incredibly uncomfortable when that happens in a room that I am in. So I stick to rooms that are much more subtle. And now that I think about it it isn't necessarily about being straight as I also never visit the male tab in CB because every single guy is showing his junk and I don't care for that.
I get non-nude isn't for everybody. The less experienced you are sexually the more you will enjoy hardcore since you don't get to see or practice those things IRL. So watching them is the closest you get to the actual thing. But as people age I think they start to get bored of that and steer in the opposite direction. The thing that was frustrating when they were young: having trouble getting the chick you like naked, is now exciting since the women on their age group are not very innocent. Being with an innocent and subtle girl makes them remember their teenage years too.
Some people just want to get down to it, quick and dirty, but there are many different flavors that make up this crazy cam world and teasers are just one more flavor that I happen to enjoy quite a bit.
Ok I have to admit that I actually like this girl. She has a great personality and she is one of the most beautiful girls I have ever seen. I never used to go private with a model more than once but when I went private with this girl there was something about her that made me want to get to know her. The funny thing is I used to be one of those people that would say you can't actually like someone that you never actually met in real life. She didn't get naked in the first private I did with her but then she did in the privates that we did after that one. Maybe she was too shy at first and then got comfortable. So now that we went so long without private she was feeling shy again. I'm not 100% sure but I think she might actually like me but it's hard to tell because of her being a webcam model working on MFC it might just be part of her act. I just thought I should put this out there because it's kind of important for everyone to know. I realize that I might have developed too much feelings for this girl so I started talking to girls in real life and on MFC. I did actually do a private with another model for the first time in 2 years so I'm not obsessing over this one girl that I might not ever meet in real life. This has definitely helped me overcome my shyness a lot. I work at a place where there are a lot of beautiful girls and I can actually talk to them without being so shy like I used to be. So even if I don't meet this model on MFC it wasn't a complete waste of time. Oh and just to put this out there I did actually tell this model I wanted to meet her a couple months after I started talking to her and she seemed to like the idea. I don't usually do something like this so I wanted everyone to know all the details but I won't ever give out her identity because I respect her privacy
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Honestly if she can't simply answer you about if she's willing to be naked in private or not through the MFC mail you sent, I don't see the point in attempting anything more. Whether an act or not, she seems to be uncomfortable. On top of being uncomfortable about being naked in private, she's uncomfortable telling you why. That doesn't seem like the behavior of someone who will be ok with getting to know you on or offline any time soon. Maybe she'll change, but the whole thing seems pretty futile to me till she is willing to maturely message you back like she should have.
I'm glad you've overcome your shyness, and hope this doesn't put too big of a damper on your camsite time. If it were myself though, sure I'd likely want to see her and such, but I'd wait till she messages a response about it at least.
Yeah I will still visit her chatroom but I wont go private with her until she messages me back and explains why she was uncomfortable with me. It looks like she hasn't even logged into MFC since that night so I will have to wait till she is on again so I can talk to her. I find it odd that a few months ago she told me she was working 80 hours a week at two jobs and was on almost everyday and now she has this job and all the sudden she is barely ever on. I wonder if something else is going on here that she doesn't want me to know. Also she won't talk outside of MFC. I asked her if I could talk to her through email but she said she doesn't give out her email to anyone she doesn't know but I've seen models that give out there phone number for tokens and this girl won't even give me her email. Even my friends thought that was weird. So I dunno maybe this girl is hiding something.
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Have you thought about dating a chick that's not a model? It might be a healthy way to move on.
Hey GuyFromNJ,
In these situations there is so much that can change and the one thing to remember is just like you have a screen name on MFC, all Models have a face and a life outside of MFC which they have to protect.
Over my experience you have asshats who look for cam models to white knight them, Models start a career, some models have children and some get pregnant but it is all about Risk Management. It's a tricky business in the industry but as you can understand risk management is one of the Musts.
All you can do is respect the models decision and see if anything changes in the future you will find out.
K
In these situations there is so much that can change and the one thing to remember is just like you have a screen name on MFC, all Models have a face and a life outside of MFC which they have to protect.
Over my experience you have asshats who look for cam models to white knight them, Models start a career, some models have children and some get pregnant but it is all about Risk Management. It's a tricky business in the industry but as you can understand risk management is one of the Musts.
All you can do is respect the models decision and see if anything changes in the future you will find out.
K
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