Ageism/ Sexism Cougar vs. Dirty Old Man

[Jupiter551]

Watching porn etc with so much younger girls in it although it is pervy (let's not deny that), there's also the fact that men will always be attracted to youth because of the whole fertility thing, it can't be helped, and camming is a fantasy land where you're allowed to be a bit unrealistic.

Well I tend to think of it more that as people age, their sexual desires don't always age with them. They might develop some new ones, refine them, whatever, but when men turn 50 or something it's not like they're suddenly hot for grandmas

That said, yeah I find it a little...distasteful if there's a 20 year age gap either way but hey, who am I to judge? It's none of my business anyway. I may even feel different when I'm older, and the whole 'young enough to be your daughter' thing IS a bit off-putting to me, though it's still not the same as pedophilic fantasies or whatever (which I think is what some people are tiptoeing around saying, not in this thread mind you).

Meeting and falling in love is one thing, chasing after 18 year olds when you're 50 is kinda weird and pretty embarassing. For the record I think Hugh Hefner is disgusting.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

My step father is the same age as my boyfriend. My mom def gets more shit than my bf does for dating a younger girl. (both in their 30's)
I think it's creepy if a guy ONLY goes after young women. It should be about compatibility, regardless of age. I have a friend in her 20's that's dating a guy in his late 50's. They are made for each other!!! However, he didn't go looking for that. He had only dated women his age prior, and just happened to be the perfect match for her.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

I've read several times in the Playboy adviser and other place a pretty decent rule of thumb. In general, you should date some that is within 1/2 your age + 7 years.
so a 20 year old with 17 year old
30 and 22
40 and 27
50 and 32
60 and 37.
Intuitively these seem like reasonable age difference. I as 50 year old dated a couple of woman in their mid 30s and the age difference wasn't a big problem but late 20s or early 30 would be too awkward.
Thinking about relationship both of people I know and celebrities relationship marriages and I think this rule is more right than wrong. My older sister married a guy 9 year older. When she was 22 and he was 30 and 31 the age difference matter 30+ years later in make no difference. (Other than she worried about him dying too early.) and they have a great marriage.

I contrast this with friend of mine 7 year marriage that just end a couple of months ago he is 45 and she is 27. Eventually she had an affair with a younger guy at the time they meet when he was 38 and she was 20, I she sure he seemed sophisticated and not a jerk like guy here own age. But I think she missed being wild and crazy when she was young and wanted to do so while she was still young.

Now of course if your am looking for fling any age is good..

 

[bob]

Men won't really understand it

"it" is

I was amazed at the power I suddenly held over people.

??

because you've never been from the girls point of view

i'm curious what this statement means to you, and if the same source that allowed you "to be" from a guy's point of view will let me "be" from a woman's :lol: .....i've always wanted to try that :dance:

i don't agree that you have a chip on your shoulder, but if does seem as tho your personal experiences have demonstrated that a lot of guys -and i question how much age is a factor in this- are creepy because they are just hormone machines, willing putty in the hands of a pretty face and a nice body and a flirtatious attitude.

certainly, moments like that are fun for both people.....it's an ego booster, and we all like to have our egos boosted....in many ways, camland has just marketed those moments for financial and emotional profit.

it maybe that what you're saying is that older guys are creepy when they cling to those moments....when they expect (fantasize, dream) them to have meaning outside of the moment.....

personally, that's a pretty harsh judgement, if it's true....for the life of me, i don't understand what bearing my age should have on my dreams...or my fantasies, so long as my expectations are grounded in the real world.

:twocents-02cents:

 

[DudeExtreme]

My step father is the same age as my boyfriend. My mom def gets more shit than my bf does for dating a younger girl. (both in their 30's)
I think it's creepy if a guy ONLY goes after young women. It should be about compatibility, regardless of age. I have a friend in her 20's that's dating a guy in his late 50's. They are made for each other!!! However, he didn't go looking for that. He had only dated women his age prior, and just happened to be the perfect match for her.

I believe a 20 something year old dating a guy in his late 50s can work. I know of a couple who now been married for over 25+ and they are very happy. At first look, one may assume that the woman married him for his money, but if you spend any time with them like I have, you would know that's not true at all. People are too quick to judge others for who they fall in love with. The guy def didn't look for a much younger woman, it just happen.

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

As long as it's legal and consensual, who cares what anyone else says? You can find someone to disapprove of practically anything. Regardless of age, you could each have all sorts of reasons for wanting to try the relationship. Maybe it's a long shot; maybe it's magic. Maybe it's stupid, but the two of you are the only ones who get a vote. Maybe you want something that someone else finds "creepy," but if your partner is okay with it, fuck it, it's your life, not the spectator's.

Addressing the original topic directly: I'm not convinced that there's more societal acceptance of one or the other of "cougars" and "dirty old men." The terms come from different generations and likely different intents and circumstances. I think "cougar" is an invention of the media; no idea who coined the phrase "dirty old man." As I stated above, as far as I'm concerned, nobody's outside approval is required so long as the relationship is legal and consensual. Mostly, I think, this just sells issues of People magazine. In earlier times, this would've been less shocking than inter-racial marriages. In the future, maybe it will be something to do with genetic compatibility.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I'm not saying they were creepy, although some were, mainly just naive, and many just a little desperate. For example, if I go into a bar with just men in their 20's, even if I'm one of the only girls, I will receive come ons, but not that many.
If I go into an older bar with men from 30's upwards, whether there are other women or not it's more similar to being a slab of meat being put out in front of a dog. Older men will also usually work a lot harder for your attention, I used to abuse it terribly. People sometimes say that people get more mature when they're older, but in many cases yes they gain more life experience etc, but it also makes them dumb, they think they know it so they stop thinking as much/don't act as cautious. Especially men who've come out of long term relationships/marriages, they've taken having a woman for granted, and all those women they couldn't have before are now available to them, but wait a second? Those flirty eyes they were giving them before were just a bluff? crap! That's just an example of a certain type though. They'll have a lot more experience with life etc, but when it comes to dating and flirting it's a whole other matter!

What I'm trying to say is although yes people can have relationships that work with a big age gap, but it is the exception to the rule, and for those who it works with usually it happened by accident, no one wanted the age gap. Like cam girls do date/go out with members, but it's the exception, those members who go on cam sites hoping to date the girl are NOT the ones who end up with them, (well, maybe some have, but I've never heard of it).
When it comes to actual dating if it works it works, but what I'm saying is I think those who primarily go for girls 15+ years younger than they are probably have some issues.
If it happens it's ok, no one can help it, and if you do find the right person then well done you! But it is creepy, and kind of weird if you're so reluctant to date anyone your own age and go for such younger women!

I also think our tastes do change with age. For example when I was 16 I found 16 year olds hot, I do not anymore. when I'm 30 although I think I'll still be able to appreciate younger men I'll find men in their 30's/40's a lot more attractive than I do now, and probably won't want to date younger. Maybe it's partly that if you have wrinkles etc, you get used to them, and so they don't bother you as much. If your tastes aren't changing, then maybe that's an issue you need to work out, but I don't think it's the norm.

 

[Beach_Love]

Once again, what great replies. Thought of a perfect example to illustrate why I still think it is more acceptable for a girl to be with a younger guy. And by acceptable I mean from a female perspective since we all know the male opinion on older/younger is overwhelmingly positive LOL.

Sean Penn walks by you w/ young girlfriend, what is your reaction? Sharon Stone walks by you w/ young boyfriend. Do you have the same reaction? Personally, I think Sharon Stone is the BOMB and totally see why she would want to date a younger guy.

 

[Jupiter551]

I'm not saying they were creepy, although some were, mainly just naive, and many just a little desperate. For example, if I go into a bar with just men in their 20's, even if I'm one of the only girls, I will receive come ons, but not that many.
[...snip...]
When it comes to actual dating if it works it works, but what I'm saying is I think those who primarily go for girls 15+ years younger than they are probably have some issues.
If it happens it's ok, no one can help it, and if you do find the right person then well done you! But it is creepy, and kind of weird if you're so reluctant to date anyone your own age and go for such younger women!

Two points I want to comment on here - firstly that's not because 20 year old guys aren't thinking about it, it's more likely because most of them lack the confidence to actually do something (anything) about it. Or are you suggesting guys in their 20s aren't interested in women? heh.

I've dated mostly younger women, mostly 10+ years younger, 15 would be pushing it - but I wanted to point out that it isn't always GUYS chasing GIRLS. Believe it or not it's sometimes the other way around, and sometimes age doesn't even come into the conversation until later (people are usually shocked when I say I'm 37, they say they thought mid to late 20s usually - I've never had anyone guess even close to my age) and I think really it's only BEFORE you start to get to know someone, like if you were looking at their stats on paper that you might second-guess about age.

If I met this smoking-hot, interesting, funny, sexy woman and struck up a great conversation, assumed she was somewhere around my age and she later told me she was 47 - as if I'd care!

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

What I'm trying to say is although yes people can have relationships that work with a big age gap, but it is the exception to the rule, and for those who it works with usually it happened by accident, no one wanted the age gap. Like cam girls do date/go out with members, but it's the exception, those members who go on cam sites hoping to date the girl are NOT the ones who end up with them, (well, maybe some have, but I've never heard of it).
When it comes to actual dating if it works it works, but what I'm saying is I think those who primarily go for girls 15+ years younger than they are probably have some issues.
If it happens it's ok, no one can help it, and if you do find the right person then well done you! But it is creepy, and kind of weird if you're so reluctant to date anyone your own age and go for such younger women!

I also think our tastes do change with age. For example when I was 16 I found 16 year olds hot, I do not anymore. when I'm 30 although I think I'll still be able to appreciate younger men I'll find men in their 30's/40's a lot more attractive than I do now, and probably won't want to date younger. Maybe it's partly that if you have wrinkles etc, you get used to them, and so they don't bother you as much. If your tastes aren't changing, then maybe that's an issue you need to work out, but I don't think it's the norm.

I agree while there plenty of exceptions to any rule, in general large age difference make relationships tougher. I am too lazy to do any serious googling, but it appears that divorce rates are moderately higher for Cougars, and slightly higher when the man is much older. Men in marriages to younger woman have longer life expectancy but the younger woman have lower life expectancy. The young girls keep the guy feeling young and then the woman wear themselves out nursing their older mates in their later years.

I think there are difference in aging between attraction for men and woman. When I was 20, I found most girls attractive between 16 and 25. However, I found very few woman over the age 40 hot, other than aging supermodels and actress, like Cheryl Tiegs, and Raquel Welch. Now that I am 50 I still find girls between 16 and 25 attractive, and in the case of many cam models insanely hot, especially naked . However, I now find plenty of woman 40,50 and even a few 60 years olds attractive. Not many 50 year woman are really attracted to 18 year for anything other than a fling.

 

[southsamurai]

just a side note: sexuality doesnt ever stop until the body does. i did quite a few years in nursing homes. many many times i would walk in on someone solo pleasuring, and the amount of "visiting" that went on late at night was astounding. visiting being our code word for sex of course. some of those old ladies and fellas were more active than ppl in their 20s in that respect

 

[Jupiter551]

just a side note: sexuality doesnt ever stop until the body does. i did quite a few years in nursing homes. many many times i would walk in on someone solo pleasuring, and the amount of "visiting" that went on late at night was astounding. visiting being our code word for sex of course. some of those old ladies and fellas were more active than ppl in their 20s in that respect

You know I heard something like this a few years back...apparently nursing home sex is frequent and common lol -.-
I hope not so much with the dementia ones, suddenly "Billy? Billy is that you fucking me?"

 

[SoTxBob]

 

[camstory]

Sean Penn walks by you w/ young girlfriend, what is your reaction? Sharon Stone walks by you w/ young boyfriend. Do you have the same reaction? Personally, I think Sharon Stone is the BOMB and totally see why she would want to date a younger guy.

Personally I think Sean Penn is the bomb, and might be a little surprised to see him with a very young lady on his arm, but if I did I would be very impressed with her even if I had no idea who she was.

Sharon Stone is the BOMBBIGGITY bb!

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Two points I want to comment on here - firstly that's not because 20 year old guys aren't thinking about it, it's more likely because most of them lack the confidence to actually do something (anything) about it. Or are you suggesting guys in their 20s aren't interested in women? heh.

Oh they're interested all right, but that doesn't mean they decide to grope/drool over the girl so obviously. They don't need to, if you're younger you're in the game by default. Yes there are many younger guys who are pervy, who grope and who also drool. But usually they are less desperate the ways they go about it.
I mean yes there are some, even many older men who are sexy, well groomed, in shape and at the top of their game. But again, although many older men seem to believe they fall into this category, most don't. Most are complete pervs! Tonight for example, I went out, mostly younger people at the bar, but also quite a few groups of older men, all the younger guys (between 18 and 30) didn't bother me, whilst every time I went anywhere near the older guy's they'd look straight down my top, a few would follow me to the bar, and just generally act as though they're kids in a sweet shop. Well, wonderful for them, they're getting their bit of eyecandy and treating a normal bar like a strip club, but that's pretty much what they're there for, they're in a younger bar to get drunk and stare at the young women.
I'm also not talking dating a few people who are 10 years younger than you, out of chance that those are the girls you've ended up with, because that's a whole different thing, I mean the men who go out deliberately thinking they don't want to date someone their own age and are looking for a young(er) girl. It's just the way some of you have described when you look for women, it's one thing if you happen to fall for someone who's younger, and she falls for you, and another thing to be only searching for women considerably younger. Everyone has their little lists of what they like/want in a person, if the woman being 10+ years younger is a priority/interest, then that shouts out creepy/issues to me, that and lack of maturity and a refusal to grow up, when I date an older man maturity is one of the reasons why.

 

[Jupiter551]

Two points I want to comment on here - firstly that's not because 20 year old guys aren't thinking about it, it's more likely because most of them lack the confidence to actually do something (anything) about it. Or are you suggesting guys in their 20s aren't interested in women? heh.

Oh they're interested all right, but that doesn't mean they decide to grope/drool over the girl so obviously. They don't need to, if you're younger you're in the game by default. Yes there are many younger guys who are pervy, who grope and who also drool. But usually they are less desperate the ways they go about it.
I mean yes there are some, even many older men who are sexy, well groomed, in shape and at the top of their game. But again, although many older men seem to believe they fall into this category, most don't. Most are complete pervs! Tonight for example, I went out, mostly younger people at the bar, but also quite a few groups of older men, all the younger guys (between 18 and 30) didn't bother me, whilst every time I went anywhere near the older guy's they'd look straight down my top, a few would follow me to the bar, and just generally act as though they're kids in a sweet shop. Well, wonderful for them, they're getting their bit of eyecandy and treating a normal bar like a strip club, but that's pretty much what they're there for, they're in a younger bar to get drunk and stare at the young women.
I'm also not talking dating a few people who are 10 years younger than you, out of chance that those are the girls you've ended up with, because that's a whole different thing, I mean the men who go out deliberately thinking they don't want to date someone their own age and are looking for a young(er) girl. It's just the way some of you have described when you look for women, it's one thing if you happen to fall for someone who's younger, and she falls for you, and another thing to be only searching for women considerably younger. Everyone has their little lists of what they like/want in a person, if the woman being 10+ years younger is a priority/interest, then that shouts out creepy/issues to me, that and lack of maturity and a refusal to grow up, when I date an older man maturity is one of the reasons why.

Ok, but the kind of old(er) men who hang out at nightclubs drinking and looking for women (of any age) are possibly a subcategory in themselves.

 

[SoTxBob]

Two points I want to comment on here - firstly that's not because 20 year old guys aren't thinking about it, it's more likely because most of them lack the confidence to actually do something (anything) about it. Or are you suggesting guys in their 20s aren't interested in women? heh.

Oh they're interested all right, but that doesn't mean they decide to grope/drool over the girl so obviously. They don't need to, if you're younger you're in the game by default. Yes there are many younger guys who are pervy, who grope and who also drool. But usually they are less desperate the ways they go about it.
I mean yes there are some, even many older men who are sexy, well groomed, in shape and at the top of their game. But again, although many older men seem to believe they fall into this category, most don't. Most are complete pervs! Tonight for example, I went out, mostly younger people at the bar, but also quite a few groups of older men, all the younger guys (between 18 and 30) didn't bother me, whilst every time I went anywhere near the older guy's they'd look straight down my top, a few would follow me to the bar, and just generally act as though they're kids in a sweet shop. Well, wonderful for them, they're getting their bit of eyecandy and treating a normal bar like a strip club, but that's pretty much what they're there for, they're in a younger bar to get drunk and stare at the young women.
I'm also not talking dating a few people who are 10 years younger than you, out of chance that those are the girls you've ended up with, because that's a whole different thing, I mean the men who go out deliberately thinking they don't want to date someone their own age and are looking for a young(er) girl. It's just the way some of you have described when you look for women, it's one thing if you happen to fall for someone who's younger, and she falls for you, and another thing to be only searching for women considerably younger. Everyone has their little lists of what they like/want in a person, if the woman being 10+ years younger is a priority/interest, then that shouts out creepy/issues to me, that and lack of maturity and a refusal to grow up, when I date an older man maturity is one of the reasons why.

Ok, but the kind of old(er) men who hang out at nightclubs drinking and looking for women (of any age) are possibly a subcategory in themselves.

... And heaven forbid ones views should ever be based on bar experiences... There is a very valid reason they're known around the world as "meat markets"....

just sayin :whistle:

 

[camstory]

As long as it's legal and consensual, who cares what anyone else says? You can find someone to disapprove of practically anything. Regardless of age, you could each have all sorts of reasons for wanting to try the relationship. Maybe it's a long shot; maybe it's magic. Maybe it's stupid, but the two of you are the only ones who get a vote. Maybe you want something that someone else finds "creepy," but if your partner is okay with it, fuck it, it's your life, not the spectator's.

Addressing the original topic directly: I'm not convinced that there's more societal acceptance of one or the other of "cougars" and "dirty old men." The terms come from different generations and likely different intents and circumstances. I think "cougar" is an invention of the media; no idea who coined the phrase "dirty old man." As I stated above, as far as I'm concerned, nobody's outside approval is required so long as the relationship is legal and consensual. Mostly, I think, this just sells issues of People magazine. In earlier times, this would've been less shocking than inter-racial marriages. In the future, maybe it will be something to do with genetic compatibility.

:text-goodpost: rcs-cheers: :text-yeahthat:

Can't understand only 2 thanks on this ^^^^^, finishing the first paragraph the 'fuckin A' buzzer started sounding, ( actually there are a few places where the secondary windings have fused, so it sounds more like water being poured of hot bacon grease, than a buzzer),but this is going on my post of the month wall... Do I have a post of the month : wall? No but I have a reason to start one. Again 2thanks doesn't seem right maybe it's the squirrel/gopher confusion that is distracting ppl from the content of your post

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

:text-goodpost: rcs-cheers: :text-yeahthat:

Can't understand only 2 thanks on this ^^^^^, finishing the first paragraph the 'fuckin A' buzzer started sounding, ( actually there are a few places where the secondary windings have fused, so it sounds more like water being poured of hot bacon grease, than a buzzer),but this is going on my post of the month wall... Do I have a post of the month : wall? No but I have a reason to start one. Again 2thanks doesn't seem right maybe it's the squirrel/gopher confusion that is distracting ppl from the content of your post

Why, thank you, sir. I'm considering adding a third varmint to the family, perhaps the humble opposum. I hear they're good eatin' if you get 'em straight from the road.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

... And heaven forbid ones views should ever be based on bar experiences... There is a very valid reason they're known around the world as "meat markets"....

just sayin

Just an example. I get it every time I leave the house, when I'm walking to my bus stop, when waiting for the bus, when I go to a shop. I just assume every girl gets this. I recently started dating someone and because he wasn't used to it he kept noticing that almost everyone was looking over at me. I've learned to pretty much ignore it now, but when he pointed it out it started making me feel weird again, most of the time I'm outside I have shit hair, zero make up and wellies on, I do still get the looks, but it's not nearly as bad. I'm not even particularly attractive, but men, especially older men, love to stare! It is worse when they get opportunities to talk to me though!
I wonder though, if you're not meeting your 20 something year olds in bars where are you finding them?! I mean as far as I know pretty much all my friends lives are contained to working/uni, uni work, shopping, going out for meals occasionally and going out to bars. I mean everyone has hobbies, like I have my horse to take care of and ride, but most of these hobbies aren't really the kinds of places to come onto women. Unless you're trying to pull at the gym, which for me is one of the most threatening places I've ever had men trying it on with me, I don't really see where you'd meet these girls if you're not hanging out in bars. I guess maybe some work in offices, but come ons at work are also creepy. In a bar at least I'm expecting it!
That's what I mean by you not having seen it from my side. If you're constantly being watched, chased around, followed, groped etc by older men, you'd realise that it is creepy!
I met a good friend of mine because I was walking up to see my horse and he was driving past, he stopped the car and asked me out. He's a good looking guy and looks much younger, he's 42, but I was just thinking "fuck, where can I run?!" I reluctantly gave him my number. He actually ended up moving into the same block of flats as me with one of my friends mother (just friends) so we became friends, but really, what on earth was he thinking? I am half his age! His life is settling down, even though he doesn't want it to, whilst mine is just beginning.

 

[SweepTheLeg]

Fuck. I couldn't even stand 20 year olds when I was 20.

 

[Crumb]

Just an example. I get it every time I leave the house, when I'm walking to my bus stop, when waiting for the bus, when I go to a shop. I just assume every girl gets this. I recently started dating someone and because he wasn't used to it he kept noticing that almost everyone was looking over at me. I've learned to pretty much ignore it now, but when he pointed it out it started making me feel weird again, most of the time I'm outside I have shit hair, zero make up and wellies on, I do still get the looks, but it's not nearly as bad. I'm not even particularly attractive, but men, especially older men, love to stare! It is worse when they get opportunities to talk to me though!
I wonder though, if you're not meeting your 20 something year olds in bars where are you finding them?! I mean as far as I know pretty much all my friends lives are contained to working/uni, uni work, shopping, going out for meals occasionally and going out to bars. I mean everyone has hobbies, like I have my horse to take care of and ride, but most of these hobbies aren't really the kinds of places to come onto women. Unless you're trying to pull at the gym, which for me is one of the most threatening places I've ever had men trying it on with me, I don't really see where you'd meet these girls if you're not hanging out in bars. I guess maybe some work in offices, but come ons at work are also creepy. In a bar at least I'm expecting it!
That's what I mean by you not having seen it from my side. If you're constantly being watched, chased around, followed, groped etc by older men, you'd realise that it is creepy!
I met a good friend of mine because I was walking up to see my horse and he was driving past, he stopped the car and asked me out. He's a good looking guy and looks much younger, he's 42, but I was just thinking "fuck, where can I run?!" I reluctantly gave him my number. He actually ended up moving into the same block of flats as me with one of my friends mother (just friends) so we became friends, but really, what on earth was he thinking? I am half his age! His life is settling down, even though he doesn't want it to, whilst mine is just beginning.

40+ does not equal dead
your father may have been 42 and settled down, but that doesn't mean everyone else is

an attractive person will always draw attention to themselves even if dressed down
the older guys I assume are just bold enough to approach you, and probably thinking "it doesn't hurt to try"

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I never said dead, your life will just be very different from when you're 20. If you're 20 you will be most likely be trying to organise the rest of your life, you may be doing uni, or starting working for other places, being an adult it a very new experience and you will be learning/changing fast. Everything is just starting. If you're 40, not everyone, but most people will have found a kind of level, they may still not know what they want to do with the rest of their life, but the rate of change will be slower. Both my parents do plenty of exciting things, but it is very different to what they did/wanted to do at my age. Like my mother wants to go travelling, but what she'd do whilst travelling is very different than what I'd do.
It's the same with my father, he has a great life, he's in his early 50's, I think his girlfriend is about 10 years younger than him, something that was a massive cause of excitement for all my brothers friends, one of them who said with awe he's a legend/pimp and is dating a 20 year old! Well no, she's in her mid 40's, but whatever lol! He spends a lot of time travelling abroad, going to gigs, seeing friends etc, but it's very different, all of it a lot more chilled out than if anyone I knew my age were doing it.
That's what I mean by settling down, you're no longer in a rush to do all these things, you're more in a position to just enjoy life.
If you're 20, female, want to do certain things (travel, have a career etc) but also want children you've got about 10 years to do all these things in (unless you choose to have children during these things). For me children isn't a big priority, I'm not that bothered, but I know I'd like to be in a position where when the time comes that I'll have to make that decision I'll have done everything I want to do. Some women it's much more of a priority, and some don't care. You'd think being young means you have all the time in the world, but really you don't, most women are aware of this on some level, it's only natural.
As a person I don't like the idea of getting involved with someone when I know for a fact it couldn't lead somewhere.

Oh, and yes they are bold enough to try coming onto a girl who they pretty much know full on will never get with them. It's not like it's the attractive ones, it's always the losers. Unfortunately (no offence, don't mean this personally) in the 40+ category of men trying to get with a girl my age there are a lot more desperate ones, so their come ons are more frequent, more tactless and a lot more distasteful. I also think that they are mostly aware it won't get anywhere so it's close to begging. Think talking to that $20 basic begging a camgirl to do stuff. The guys in their 20s are more like the basics who go "tits bb?" "mmmm nice ass" "wanna see my cock bb?", yeah they're all annoying and deserve a good banning, but the beggings ones are just pathetic! They know they won't get anything out of it, yet they still beg!

 

[camstory]

Fuck. I couldn't even stand 20 year olds when I was 20.

:laughing-rolling: Fuck you are such an asshole, (and I mean that in the most positive way), you should not have any truble in finding dates.

 

[DudeExtreme]

My step father is the same age as my boyfriend. My mom def gets more shit than my bf does for dating a younger girl. (both in their 30's)
I think it's creepy if a guy ONLY goes after young women. It should be about compatibility, regardless of age. I have a friend in her 20's that's dating a guy in his late 50's. They are made for each other!!! However, he didn't go looking for that. He had only dated women his age prior, and just happened to be the perfect match for her.

I forgot to mention about your Mom--Way to go! It is nobody's business who she is married to. Your mom being in love is wonderful, beautiful, and awesome. People should be supportive instead of judging. Life is way too short.

 

[camstory]

My step father is the same age as my boyfriend. My mom def gets more shit than my bf does for dating a younger girl. (both in their 30's)
I think it's creepy if a guy ONLY goes after young women. It should be about compatibility, regardless of age. I have a friend in her 20's that's dating a guy in his late 50's. They are made for each other!!! However, he didn't go looking for that. He had only dated women his age prior, and just happened to be the perfect match for her.

I forgot to mention about your Mom--Way to go! It is nobody's business who she is married to. Your mom being in love is wonderful, beautiful, and awesome. People should be supportive instead of judging. Life is way too short.

Amen bro. :thumbleft:

 

[Mirra]

Heh... I'm only 27 but already feel like a dirty old man at times. Some of these freshmen attending the university I work for are rather cute. :whistle:

But most of them I could never actually be in a long term relationship with. They would drive me absolutely insane... and I would probably bore them to death. On the other hand, there are exceptions. On the other hand, one of the best exceptions is quite vocal about not liking when significantly older guys hit on her.

I don't know. The way I always understood it was men tend to date younger than themselves because men tend to take longer to mature. Dating younger improves their chances of being with a girl on equal footing in that regard. I personally think that's an accurate trend but as with most things, there are exceptions. Unfortunately there are situations where motives for the relationship really aren't about any kind of love. Generally speaking, however, if two people are happy together I don't think age should matter.

 

[Anonymous]

I used to be involved with an older guy (I think I was 22/23 and he was 35/36?), and I remember one day he said "You make me feel like a teenager!" Lol.

 

[LailaBaise]

My first big age gap was with a 35 year old when I was...errr 15. This was a very fun intro into the euphoric rigours of full on no beating about the bush shagging hehe, or the 'advanced shagging diploma'. My first proper boyfriend who I was with for six years from the age of 16 was 33 when we met. I've had a few dalliances with blokes in their 40's and up when I was in my early twenties. But it has always been me taking advantage of them. It really turns me on to tease and flirt with a much older man until they lose their inhibitions and admit defeat; I think a lot of the time these guys think you're pulling their leg and just being a tease. I really like wrinkles, grey hair and wisdom only age can bring. They also have to have the stamina of Mo Farah and a Dennis the Menace sense of boyish mischief, but I think deep down; no content man ever loses that; especially if they take good care of themselves. 8 years or more older than me suits me best. I can hand on heart say I have had more fulfilling 12 hour sex binges with a man in his 40's than a fellow of 25.

Having said that; I am open to being proven wrong, and hopefully will rediscover a passion for twenty something males when I reach my 50's. :dance:

 

[Anonymous]

I'd hit that.

And that boyish face is ADORABLE!