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Hey @ropebunnyluna your requests got to the top management of Xlovecam the CEO and CFO of the platform, they are currently checking with the Compliance department to see what are the general information that they can provide without any Legal, Privacy problem. As I said, Xlovecam is a platform that was very strict with the Governaments regulation for Adult industry from day 1. I propose to them to give you a model test account so you can see what is inside, but till we don't get a reply from the CEO we are in standby.
I'll get back to you as soon as possible. Have a lovely day. Thank you!
I'll get back to you as soon as possible. Have a lovely day. Thank you!
Holy smokes ok then haha that's awesome. A Model test account would be amazing. Thank you so much for helping out.Hey @ropebunnyluna your requests got to the top management of Xlovecam the CEO and CFO of the platform, they are currently checking with the Compliance department to see what are the general information that they can provide without any Legal, Privacy problem. As I said, Xlovecam is a platform that was very strict with the Governaments regulation for Adult industry from day 1. I propose to them to give you a model test account so you can see what is inside, but till we don't get a reply from the CEO we are in standby.
I'll get back to you as soon as possible. Have a lovely day. Thank you!
Recommendations & Content Selling Sites
Now I have enough data collected i've created a separate "recommendations" sheet and "Content Selling Sites" sheet. The recommendations sheet is my best attempt at condensing this information to give Models a good idea of how each site stacks up and the "Cam Score" I included tries to condense this all down to a single value. I've been hesitant to include this since I was worried it would be too subjective but I think I have a system that is better than most existing sites that claim to rank different Cam Sites now.
The content selling sheet is gonna be headache for me but I want to carry on expanding because i've had such an interest in the sheet.
That being said this has a took long time and i'm looking to move house so I need to make a living myself haha so i'm probably going to pause adding anything new for the moment except for the XLoveCam section which I agreed to beforehand.
A note to Cam Site representatives
If any Cam Site representatives aren't happy with this new "recommendations" sheet I am more than happy to hear you out and change the data in it depending on if a change has been made or there is proof that I gave the wrong information. Similarly I am happy to drop affiliate / referral links if a site is not happy with the sheet data. I care much less about earning anything through these sheets and more about providing the correct information.
Now I have enough data collected i've created a separate "recommendations" sheet and "Content Selling Sites" sheet. The recommendations sheet is my best attempt at condensing this information to give Models a good idea of how each site stacks up and the "Cam Score" I included tries to condense this all down to a single value. I've been hesitant to include this since I was worried it would be too subjective but I think I have a system that is better than most existing sites that claim to rank different Cam Sites now.
The content selling sheet is gonna be headache for me but I want to carry on expanding because i've had such an interest in the sheet.
That being said this has a took long time and i'm looking to move house so I need to make a living myself haha so i'm probably going to pause adding anything new for the moment except for the XLoveCam section which I agreed to beforehand.
A note to Cam Site representatives
If any Cam Site representatives aren't happy with this new "recommendations" sheet I am more than happy to hear you out and change the data in it depending on if a change has been made or there is proof that I gave the wrong information. Similarly I am happy to drop affiliate / referral links if a site is not happy with the sheet data. I care much less about earning anything through these sheets and more about providing the correct information.
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Hey @ropebunnyluna 
There are still now news from the CEO of Xlovecam, Patrick K. He might have some personal problems. I worked some years ago on a guide for models.. See if you get some info's from there till Patrick is back online. 
www.xlovewiki.com
Kisses Bunny have a lovely day!
There are still now news from the CEO of Xlovecam, Patrick K. He might have some personal problems. I worked some years ago on a guide for models.. See if you get some info's from there till Patrick is back online. Xlovewiki the next best source to get informed about Xlovecam
XLoveWiki which is more like a Video Chat Book, was created by people with more than 10 years experience in video chat industry and in close cooperation with experienced Studios, Independent Models, Studios and Software Developers. Now you have the chance to learn in a decent amount of time...
www.xlovewiki.com
Kisses Bunny have a lovely day!
You're a star. I'll have a lookHey @ropebunnyluna
Xlovewiki the next best source to get informed about Xlovecam
XLoveWiki which is more like a Video Chat Book, was created by people with more than 10 years experience in video chat industry and in close cooperation with experienced Studios, Independent Models, Studios and Software Developers. Now you have the chance to learn in a decent amount of time...
Kisses Bunny have a lovely day!
I'm curious do you work for themHey @ropebunnyluna your requests got to the top management of Xlovecam the CEO and CFO of the platform, they are currently checking with the Compliance department to see what are the general information that they can provide without any Legal, Privacy problem. As I said, Xlovecam is a platform that was very strict with the Governaments regulation for Adult industry from day 1. I propose to them to give you a model test account so you can see what is inside, but till we don't get a reply from the CEO we are in standby.
I'll get back to you as soon as possible. Have a lovely day. Thank you!
Amateur.tv & Cam Score updates
Finished updating information for Amateur.tv which is a lucrative option for Spanish speaking models. Also re-ordered the list based on the Cam Score instead of just popularity or earnings. I want to give the underdogs a chance if they support their models well and introduce new features other sites don't.
Finished updating information for Amateur.tv which is a lucrative option for Spanish speaking models. Also re-ordered the list based on the Cam Score instead of just popularity or earnings. I want to give the underdogs a chance if they support their models well and introduce new features other sites don't.
Easy redirect domain
To make it easier to find the document again without bookmarking it i've created a domain and subdomain which should help.
nsfwsites.info > Main Cam Sites sheet
content.nsfwsites.info > Content Selling Sites sheet
To make it easier to find the document again without bookmarking it i've created a domain and subdomain which should help.
nsfwsites.info > Main Cam Sites sheet
content.nsfwsites.info > Content Selling Sites sheet
Flirt4Free, Phrendly, SextPanther, XLoveCam, OnlyFans & MFC help
For various different reasons i'm not able to sign up for each site or have chose not to for privacy reasons. Unfortunately this limits how much I can document. If anyone is willing to help with either of these sites and take some screenshots, talk about the rules etc... and what they are allowed to do that would be amazing. As an incentive I can add a referral or affiliate link for that site as a thank you if one exists or a custom link of your choice.
Please contact me @ropebunnyluna on Discord or via a Direct Message here if you would like to help
For various different reasons i'm not able to sign up for each site or have chose not to for privacy reasons. Unfortunately this limits how much I can document. If anyone is willing to help with either of these sites and take some screenshots, talk about the rules etc... and what they are allowed to do that would be amazing. As an incentive I can add a referral or affiliate link for that site as a thank you if one exists or a custom link of your choice.
Please contact me @ropebunnyluna on Discord or via a Direct Message here if you would like to help
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I tried Xmodels and the rates are a joke. They have set rates for models so your cut for private will be about 0.30-0.35 cents a minute.
I've already looked into this. The rates should be 5 > 10 credits for privates ($0.35 > $0.97) or 10 > 20 credits for VIP ($0.7 > $1.95).
It's included in the document.
I also included a credit conversion chart to look at the different rates: https://images.imgbash.com/7883/2024/13/57309.png
I'm aware the rates aren't great. This document doesn't endorse any Cam Sites that I would consider predatory or relatively useless to models such as LiveJasmin or Bongacams. Models do seem to make a decent earning from the site and the payout percentage is higher than Streamate. I'm trying to include Flirt4Free as well but I need some help with that because they keep rejecting my application.
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@SuperPookie If you're looking for another privates site LiveJasmin wont be much better. SkyPrivate is a brilliant option and has a high payout percentage, you don't need to do free chat to earn more and they have full chargeback protection.
As for other private sites. It's been like pulling teeth to get any information out of them.
As for other private sites. It's been like pulling teeth to get any information out of them.
Shows on private only mode ( no free chat) or VIPs where you are taken to private and then the member decides to go VIP are paid at -5% from the standard rate so 40%. Not every model gets to choose the 10 credit option. Only the highest earners are allowed that and it resets every month.
I also find that whole any customer from the Netherlands automatically gets a discount thing very weird.
I will say though their support is much better than Streamate.
What you're doing is really cool btw.
Bonga cams is sooo wierd. I can go weeks making 10 a day but my biggest ever spender is from that site. I had one guy drop almost 25,000 tokens in one pvt.
Interesting. Thanks for letting me know. This changes a lot to be honest. I know about the no free chat but to be honest if you don't offer free chat just pick a better site for privates only like SkyPrivate. I didn't know about the 10 credit option, that is kind of deceptive on the part of XCams.
The reason the Netherlands gets a large discount is because they make up the majority of the user base of those who come to visit the site. Again this might be an attempt to inflate how much they pay out, since then they can advertise most models receive 40 > 45% when realistically they may get lower.
I'm constantly updating the sheet and I really appreciate this kind of feedback, thank you.
I've updated the sheet to include the information you've shared. I'd consider with this new information they don't pay out enough and I want to flag that up. The fact that a 10 credit VIP from privates can be worth as much as a 7 credit private initiated from free chat is really sneaky.
Is there any news on this? No worries if not i'm just curiousHey @ropebunnyluna
Xlovewiki the next best source to get informed about Xlovecam
XLoveWiki which is more like a Video Chat Book, was created by people with more than 10 years experience in video chat industry and in close cooperation with experienced Studios, Independent Models, Studios and Software Developers. Now you have the chance to learn in a decent amount of time...
Kisses Bunny have a lovely day!
There have been a bunch of updates these past 3 weeks. I thought i'd share some of them since i'm not keeping a Changelog anymore.
Cam Site Ratings
Cam site Ratings have been transformed entirely. A much greater emphasis has been placed on the potential average earnings of each site since that should by any definition be the most important metric. A massive amount of additional information such as Affiliate Support, Safety & Discoverability have been included. Purple squares have been included to indicate if a Cam Site has gone above and beyond instead of using stars as I did before and you can now see a lot more clearly why i've ranked sites the way I have
Opening up requests & collaborations
I've included a section on the Index page explaining how to contact me about any collaborations or simply if you want some advice about which site to pick. I feel it's a lot more useful than the "recommendations" page I had before because my recommendations have changed multiple times sometimes in the same week based on information I keep receiving from other Models and stuff i'm discovering myself.
Bongacams, Livejasmin & KIIROO
I don't think this was entirely intentional but I managed to have a meeting with the company that works KIIROO toys about a collaboration to see if we can get some friendly competition instead of what we currently have which is a Lovense Sex Toy monopoly. I didn't realise this but the company also happens to now own and operate Livejasmin & possibly Bongacams. I was able to talk and explain why I didn't include the 2 Cam Sites in the sheet and to be honest it was a great conversation. I hope they are able to take this on board and possibly reverse there policy on fines for Models or at least consider other feedback about KIIROO toys in providing more options for Trans Models such as different coloured entry level Butt Plugs. Similar to the We-Vibe Ditto.
Traffic & Similarweb ranks
These have been updated and i've made some custom images which now display the proportion of visitors from each site. I'm also now avoiding ranking new sites on earning potential since this seems to constantly be increasing for most sites, especially Cherry.tv which doubled it's traffic in almost a month.
Sextpanther, eplay XLoveCam & Flirt4Free
Sextpanther & eplay have been updated with a lot of new info especially around their rules. XLoveCam has been dropped alongside some other sites such as XPanded and Flirt4Free. I don't necessarily want to drop them because I feel they could be useful but the lack of cooperation is obvious and I don't like how low the payout percentage is for Flirt4Free. Especially since they don't announce it like Streamate does.
Cam Site Ratings
Cam site Ratings have been transformed entirely. A much greater emphasis has been placed on the potential average earnings of each site since that should by any definition be the most important metric. A massive amount of additional information such as Affiliate Support, Safety & Discoverability have been included. Purple squares have been included to indicate if a Cam Site has gone above and beyond instead of using stars as I did before and you can now see a lot more clearly why i've ranked sites the way I have
Opening up requests & collaborations
I've included a section on the Index page explaining how to contact me about any collaborations or simply if you want some advice about which site to pick. I feel it's a lot more useful than the "recommendations" page I had before because my recommendations have changed multiple times sometimes in the same week based on information I keep receiving from other Models and stuff i'm discovering myself.
Bongacams, Livejasmin & KIIROO
I don't think this was entirely intentional but I managed to have a meeting with the company that works KIIROO toys about a collaboration to see if we can get some friendly competition instead of what we currently have which is a Lovense Sex Toy monopoly. I didn't realise this but the company also happens to now own and operate Livejasmin & possibly Bongacams. I was able to talk and explain why I didn't include the 2 Cam Sites in the sheet and to be honest it was a great conversation. I hope they are able to take this on board and possibly reverse there policy on fines for Models or at least consider other feedback about KIIROO toys in providing more options for Trans Models such as different coloured entry level Butt Plugs. Similar to the We-Vibe Ditto.
Traffic & Similarweb ranks
These have been updated and i've made some custom images which now display the proportion of visitors from each site. I'm also now avoiding ranking new sites on earning potential since this seems to constantly be increasing for most sites, especially Cherry.tv which doubled it's traffic in almost a month.
Sextpanther, eplay XLoveCam & Flirt4Free
Sextpanther & eplay have been updated with a lot of new info especially around their rules. XLoveCam has been dropped alongside some other sites such as XPanded and Flirt4Free. I don't necessarily want to drop them because I feel they could be useful but the lack of cooperation is obvious and I don't like how low the payout percentage is for Flirt4Free. Especially since they don't announce it like Streamate does.
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Donations
I have had to drop the main sheet on another platform for including referral links unfortunately. This was a miscommunication between myself and the platform but I wanted to emphasise that whilst it is nice to be recognised for the work i've put in i'm more motivated in helping other performers and I have absolutely no intention on making the sheet pay2view or ranking sites based upon how much they produce through referrals. For this reason i've also excluded the affiliates section and some other donation links and pushed them to the index page so if people want to support my efforts they can do so intentionally.
I have had to drop the main sheet on another platform for including referral links unfortunately. This was a miscommunication between myself and the platform but I wanted to emphasise that whilst it is nice to be recognised for the work i've put in i'm more motivated in helping other performers and I have absolutely no intention on making the sheet pay2view or ranking sites based upon how much they produce through referrals. For this reason i've also excluded the affiliates section and some other donation links and pushed them to the index page so if people want to support my efforts they can do so intentionally.
Source linking
Apologies I forgot to include this in my last message. I've started linking individual cells that have underlined text to there associated sources. I want to make it clear where I get my information from so peeps can fact check it.
Apologies I forgot to include this in my last message. I've started linking individual cells that have underlined text to there associated sources. I want to make it clear where I get my information from so peeps can fact check it.
