[HELP] How do I report a model to MFC?

[nathanielfromessex]

I get the feeling this is a very personal matter for you Teagan and you aren't really seeing things clearly.

 

[Teagan]

I get the feeling this is a very personal matter for you Teagan and you aren't really seeing things clearly.

Fetish shaming is personal as is shaming in general to a lot of people. Seeing as how the majority of us are sex workers that should not surprise you in the least many here don't take to well to it. However just because I do not agree with you or your viewpoint in any way does not mean I don't see things clearly. That is a very short sighted way of seeing things on your part and you should probably look into why you feel that way further on your own time. You shamed a fetish you personally don't like and I called you on it and that's it. There was nothing to not see clearly or to take personal as far as the fetish itself goes as I am not one who participates in it even.

 

[nathanielfromessex]

That is a very short sighted way of seeing things on your part and you should probably look into why you feel that way further on your own time..

The fact that you are a grown woman that can't seem to go one post without saying something childish like this makes you incredibly difficult to want to further converse with. So I'm not going to.

 

[Violet Dawn]

@nathanielfromessex You seem like you're just trying to pull out insults. She's defending people, and you're shaming them. But SHE is childish? When I was in elementary school I was taught quite the opposite. If you don't want to converse with someone then just don't. It never needed to even get that far.

 

[Teagan]

The fact that you are a grown woman that can't seem to go one post without saying something childish like this makes you incredibly difficult to want to further converse with. So I'm not going to.

Rigghttttt. I'm the childish one for calling you out cause you don't like it. Sure sure. You stick with that. You know you don't really need to make up excuses or try to delude yourself into not talking to me anymore...you can just not do it

 

[AmberCutie]

There's a difference between not liking something and shaming people who do it.

You can say "ick, I don't like vomit related stuff, it grosses me out" as an opinion and preference. Sure it may hurt some peoples' feelers who participate in it, but it doesn't come off as an attack.

When you say "people who do vomit related stuff are obviously pathetic and I feel sorry for them" it turns into a shaming judgement.

 

[nathanielfromessex]

@nathanielfromessex If you don't want to converse with someone then just don't.

Yeah not going to. Curiosity got the better of me and I did some quick searching and found that it clearly is a personal matter for her and her posts make much more sense now. Still, ignored and moving on.

 

[Poison_Ivy21]

I get the feeling this is a very personal matter for you Teagan and you aren't really seeing things clearly.

Could this be any more patronizing and dismissive?

Because people can't think logically when it comes to personal matters? Or just women? We're so blinded by our own emotions?

And yeah, I'd say for cam models, fetish shaming is kind of personal. I spend a good chunk of my work time reminding men that whatever non vanilla things turn them on, are okay. As long as it doesn't cross any major line, like involving anyone underage or live animals, of course. This job is basically one big case study in human sexuality. It's intricate and fascinating. Just because you can't personally relate to something, doesn't mean its wrong or the people who cater to it are desperate and need pity.

The bottom line here is, whatever an adult decides to do to themselves is their business and not anyone else's. And I really can't imagine that there's even enough men with a vomit fetish for multiple women to be sitting around doing back to back to back vomit shows all damn day. Until they rip a hole in their throat. And unless you're the one watching these vomit shows, you don't know what a model is doing in session no matter what her room topic says.

Shaming people for scamming, yeah fine. Scammers suck, that sucks.

But you are 100% in the wrong place to be shaming people for doing fetish work.

 

[JoleneBrody]

 

[Teagan]

Yeah not going to. Curiosity got the better of me and I did some quick searching and found that it clearly is a personal matter for her and her posts make much more sense now. Still, ignored and moving on.

As I already said shaming IS personal and it is to a lot of people here. Im not gonna just say that includes camgirls only either cause I know members have had it happen to them as well when they ask for a fetish too. And your point for pointing it out again is what exactly?? It wouldn't take much "searching" except to scroll up and read what I just wrote either lol. I didn't deny it so I don't see what you're getting at except to try to diminish what I said as if it's soooo personal I couldn't possible think clearly. Well better get the fainting couch for me then...I obviously have a touch of the vapors. My poor tiny woman brain. Naw man. I'm being cool and logical here, like Spock. Maybe that's where you're tripping up on cause your lil digs aren't getting to me and my only responses to you are from a place of common sense, and respect for others choices.

 

[JickyJuly]

Without the existence of shaming, our bank accounts are all smaller.

 

[Teagan]

Without the existence of shaming, our bank accounts are all smaller.

Something being taboo or not widely accepted and outright shaming is 2 different things.

 

[JickyJuly]

Something being taboo or not widely accepted and outright shaming is 2 different things.

The cause of something being taboo or not widely accepted is shaming. If less girls were afraid of what their peers or families thought, camming would be even more saturated. Sure, it would be nice if everyone felt comfortable in their sex quirks and respected those of others. I'm totally not disagreeing with you. Just pointing out that the unease with which some people approach their own sexuality, let alone the sexuality of others, is our bread and butter. I appreciate having a loaf instead of just some crumbs.

 

[Violet Dawn]

I feel like it can go both ways. Vanilla work would probably be a lot harder if it was more widely accepted. But like the vomit topic, how many people would honestly want to do stuff like that? I don't think a lot would. I feel like shaming those types of fetishes drives potential customers away in fear of being judged. Whereas if they didn't feel judged it would be like any other transaction.

 

[Guy]

@nathanielfromessex
I have a health condition that causes me to force myself to vomit a lot, reasoning is sometimes I can eat certain foods, sometimes I can't. My body will tell me when I fucked up and I'll need to vomit... many times. But my body takes forever to do it itself. My point is I can literally get away with selling that, and you could say the same thing about me without knowing the situation at all because all you see is "forced vomiting." And no my house does not smell like vomit and that comment was really unnecessary. .-.

Can you eat chocolate?

 

[Teagan]

I see your point but many things are taboo to do besides sex work jobs. Heck it used to be forbidden to sell alcohol, and even now marijuana dispenser is not a widely accepted job to do. Coroners even are looked at with disgust for being around and digging into dead bodies. People don't get all out shamed for those though so I dont feel sex work should be either to me. Something not being widely accepted is way different to me than telling someone their lives can't get any lower by doing it or that you pity them for that certain job.

 

[nathanielfromessex]

But you are 100% in the wrong place to be shaming people for doing fetish work.

Your post would be 100% less silly if I really did any fetish shaming. I simply feel bad and pity those that seem to have no other options or are in a really bad situation. I'll be honest here and just say that I stopped taking what you had to say seriously once you tried pretending that rules on a camsite mean something. Appears that you either just want attention or to argue.

Also appears that I have upset forum member @Guy, sorry fella!. At first I thought dude just really didn't like Sensible Chuckle Magazine. Which I thought was strange, I mean, who doesn't need a sensible chuckle every now and then?

 

[JoleneBrody]

I can say after nearly 6 years on MFC that there are a good handful of rules that actually are zero tolerance and they are the ones that are specifically based around payment processors and laws.
You can not actually even type the word "puke" or "vomit" into the MFC topic, they have systems in place that will not allow a model to continue forward, last I checked.

Edit to add: just because you see something often doesn't mean they don't care, it more likely means they don't know. There are well over 1,000 cams live at any given time and only a handful of admins. If no one reports it, they likely won't see it.

 

[Teagan]

Hey look..... PONIES!!!

 

[nathanielfromessex]

I can say after nearly 6 years on MFC that there are a good handful of rules that actually are zero tolerance and they are the ones that are specifically based around payment processors and laws.
You can not actually even type the word "puke" or "vomit" into the MFC topic, they have systems in place that will not allow a model to continue forward, last I checked.

To be fair, these systems are pretty much useless. I think shit is banned as well but spend too much time in a lounge or wander too far from the top rows and you will see many questionable things happening.

 

[Violet Dawn]

@Guy No, I can't actually. But I don't really like it.

 

[JoleneBrody]

To be fair, these systems are pretty much useless. I think shit is banned as well but spend too much time in a lounge or wander too far from the top rows and you will see many questionable things happening.

please read my edit. If things don't get reported it's not always going to be seen.
Just like laws, having rules does not magically stop all people from doing those things even once... it makes them punishable and reduces the frequency IF they are randomly seen by admin or actually reported. How often to people run here or twitter to complain about something but never actually sent a message to support?

Especially when it comes to live streaming video based sites, people have mondo unrealistic expectations of enforcement. Somehow if someone actually breaks said rule those rules suddenly become pointless and all out poop anarchy commences! IT'S POOARCHY!

That's just Silly.

 

[Guy]

@Guy No, I can't actually. But I don't really like it.

Are you lactose intolerant?

 

[Violet Dawn]

@Guy Yes. But I don't really want to talk about it here because that's not the topic. Lol.

 

[Nordling]

I think a lot of rules are in place just because whoever is in charge thought it would round out their rules, not that the even intend to enforce them. Generally, they'll enforce stuff that is in violation of actual law, and stuff that may hurt their bottom line. Anything else is really silly to enforce...unless you just want unhappy models. This is why MFC remains #1.

 

[penny moon]

Who post's this and actually expects to not get totally demolished by other models. Honestly, it sucks you got "scammed" but seriously get over yourself. I wouldn't be surprised if the scamming was just the model ending the skype session early because you continued to break any or all of the pre agreed upon rules.

 

[Ambers Troll]

I agree fully with what jolenebrody said above in that the admins would have to focus on what is highest priority rule breaches.

As a member I would rather they focus on those reported, then on actively looking for those models with a history of taking advantage of members.
Their actual first priority would be breaches in the law, then those breaking rules that will actually lose members or models.

The rules on certain bodily functions are there because many to most members are turned off by them, and can lead the site to fetishes that can create problems. There is no need to shame any such fetish, or to get upset and to take it as a personal attack if someone is grossed out by it. The vomit fetish is closely related to gags, asphyxia fetishes, on the more vanilla side of things, on the more forbidden side it can be part of an 'ana' fetish for example.

Vomiting is not healthy (even when from morning sickness) for the model, nathanielfromessex only said he pitied someone who felt the need to make a living off it, hardly much in the way of shaming. Once again we have Teagan stirring an ACF storm out of a misplaced comment, then poor nathanielfromessex, thinks about it and agrees that perhaps it should be shamed. Should it represent an ana fetish, then I may agree, then again I have been known to get off on a little ana porn from time to time.

 

[Teagan]

Vomiting is not healthy (even when from morning sickness) for the model, nathanielfromessex only said he pitied someone who felt the need to make a living off it, hardly much in the way of shaming. Once again we have Teagan stirring an ACF storm out of a misplaced comment, then poor nathanielfromessex, thinks about it and agrees that perhaps it should be shamed. Should it represent an ana fetish, then I may agree, then again I have been known to get off on a little ana porn from time to time.

Dude all I said was dont fetish shame. That was the first very polite message I said to him. Thats not me creating shit storm. Its a pretty reasonable request especially with where we all are here. And if you think all he said was he pitied them you need to go back and reread some posts then cause that was no where near it. You simply dont like me as I pointed out how wrong you were about models selling their own video feed earlier this month lol. Oh well. Someone who has caused issues here before and even posts old info to models and argues about doing so is not someone i'm going to exactly listen to to gauge myself from thank you very much. I dont give a fuck if it's healthy for a model, what the fetish motivation is for either party, or anything else here. I care that it's between 2 consenting adults and therefore the model doesnt deserve to be shamed and told her life is basically worthless for catering to a fetish with no way to even defend herself. That is not too much to ask for.

 

[Nordling]

Wtf is "ana" porn? Anal?

 

[Ambers Troll]

Wtf is "ana" porn? Anal?

Something very wrong and dangerous (Almost as disgusting as child porn)...no not anal. And not a fetish that should be discussed here beyond the name. If you don't know then don't search for it.