New Chaturbate Promotion Service. I'm looking for testers and reviewers.

[SteveR]

Hello Caturbate CamGirls! (and CamGuys!)

Do you want more viewers for your shows? Of course you do I’d like to help a few Chaturbate performers in exchange for you reviewing my new service and testing it out.

I know you’re skeptical, especially of guys offering to “help” you. I’m not here to waste either of our time. So I’m going prove I’m the real deal.

Send me your Chaturbate name in a PM, and I’ll deliver 200-300 registered views for the next 2-3 days. I’m not asking anything in return, I know I need to prove myself first.

OK, so what’s in it for you?
I’m starting a legit business helping promote Chaturbate performers. After you try it out for free and you see that I’m able to deliver viewers then we can talk. Right now, I'm thinking a percent of your increased profits, or a flat fee. This is a business for me, so I’m only interested in getting paid with money, NOT anything else!

I know there are a lot of scamers around offering the "help" girls (especially new girls) and offering the world in the hopes of getting free shows or other favors. Until my reputation is established, I know you can't trust me, and we can't discuss any meaningful business arrangement.

Can you explain a bit more?
As you probably know, most guys just look at the first page, open a few rooms, and don’t get much further than that. They don’t scroll down the first page, let alone look at the second or third page! It’s like searching on Google, how often do you go to the second page? Exactly. To get on the first page (and best is above the fold) you need registered viewers. That’s where I come in

Right now, I’m able to bring 200-300 viewers to any show that I want. In the future I expect to be able to deliver even more viewers. I’ve been testing the system on unsuspecting rooms over the past week. Now I’d like to work with you directly and see if this translates into more money as well. Even if the viewers I bring don’t tip, you’ll rank higher so that all those guys browsing the front page for the popular shows will see you.

As an added benefit, the more guys you’re exposed to (pun intended!) the more will follow you and come back to you in the future. etc. Sort of a snow ball effect to help jump start things.

How does it work?
I have a lot of experience doing SEO (Search Engine Optimization, ranking website in Google etc.) and I realized that Chaturbate is also a type of search engine. I’ve applied my experience with SEO to Chaturbate and developed a system to drive registered viewers, and therefore increase your ranking when you’re online.

Is this some scam? What’s your angle?
I know you need to be careful and this might sound a bit “too good to be true.” I will respect your privacy 100%. I won’t ask for anything from you, except your username/roomname so I can try sending you viewers.

For now, I’m offering to provide my service for free to get reviews and establish that I’m an honest business and able to deliver on my word.

In the future, if we work together, I’d like to see screenshots of some of your stats so I can see how well it’s working.

Who are you?
My background is an internet marketer, software developer, entrepreneur. I’ve had a few successful websites in other industries, and this is my first business in the adult/webcam space.

I’m happy to share my personal information with anyone interested in working with me, so you know more about me. I would not expect you to share anything.

What are the risks?
It might not bring in any additional money. It might waste your time. You might be disappointed.

How can I get started?
During this limited beta testing period I’m only going to work with 5-10 girls (or guys). I’ll choose the most promising candidates that I think can benefit the most from my help.

Send me a PM if you’re interested along with your roomname and how many viewers you have for an average show.

Best Regards,
Steve

 

[evie19]

Ummm maybe you should know that chaturbate changed their ranking system pretty recently . Registred viewers without tokens ( greys ) don't count for room placement anymore , only people with tokens can make your room's placement higher . So you can have even 1000 registred viewers and you can be on 2-3-4-5 [page if the guys with tokens don't come into your room .

 

[gudheadt]

Hello Caturbate CamGirls! (and CamGuys!)

Do you want more viewers for your shows? Of course you do I’d like to help a few Chaturbate performers in exchange for you reviewing my new service and testing it out.

I know you’re skeptical, especially of guys offering to “help” you. I’m not here to waste either of our time. So I’m going prove I’m the real deal.

Send me your Chaturbate name in a PM, and I’ll deliver 200-300 registered views for the next 2-3 days. I’m not asking anything in return, I know I need to prove myself first.

OK, so what’s in it for you?
I’m starting a legit business helping promote Chaturbate performers. After you try it out for free and you see that I’m able to deliver viewers then we can talk. Right now, I'm thinking a percent of your increased profits, or a flat fee. This is a business for me, so I’m only interested in getting paid with money, NOT anything else!

I know there are a lot of scamers around offering the "help" girls (especially new girls) and offering the world in the hopes of getting free shows or other favors. Until my reputation is established, I know you can't trust me, and we can't discuss any meaningful business arrangement.

Can you explain a bit more?
As you probably know, most guys just look at the first page, open a few rooms, and don’t get much further than that. They don’t scroll down the first page, let alone look at the second or third page! It’s like searching on Google, how often do you go to the second page? Exactly. To get on the first page (and best is above the fold) you need registered viewers. That’s where I come in

Right now, I’m able to bring 200-300 viewers to any show that I want. In the future I expect to be able to deliver even more viewers. I’ve been testing the system on unsuspecting rooms over the past week. Now I’d like to work with you directly and see if this translates into more money as well. Even if the viewers I bring don’t tip, you’ll rank higher so that all those guys browsing the front page for the popular shows will see you.

As an added benefit, the more guys you’re exposed to (pun intended!) the more will follow you and come back to you in the future. etc. Sort of a snow ball effect to help jump start things.

How does it work?
I have a lot of experience doing SEO (Search Engine Optimization, ranking website in Google etc.) and I realized that Chaturbate is also a type of search engine. I’ve applied my experience with SEO to Chaturbate and developed a system to drive registered viewers, and therefore increase your ranking when you’re online.

Is this some scam? What’s your angle?
I know you need to be careful and this might sound a bit “too good to be true.” I will respect your privacy 100%. I won’t ask for anything from you, except your username/roomname so I can try sending you viewers.

For now, I’m offering to provide my service for free to get reviews and establish that I’m an honest business and able to deliver on my word.

In the future, if we work together, I’d like to see screenshots of some of your stats so I can see how well it’s working.

Who are you?
My background is an internet marketer, software developer, entrepreneur. I’ve had a few successful websites in other industries, and this is my first business in the adult/webcam space.

I’m happy to share my personal information with anyone interested in working with me, so you know more about me. I would not expect you to share anything.

What are the risks?
It might not bring in any additional money. It might waste your time. You might be disappointed.

How can I get started?
During this limited beta testing period I’m only going to work with 5-10 girls (or guys). I’ll choose the most promising candidates that I think can benefit the most from my help.

Send me a PM if you’re interested along with your roomname and how many viewers you have for an average show.

Best Regards,
Steve

comming from a Twitch.tv background as a streamer there, this seems Really sketchy, like its one thing that you say you can bring some people in, but that you actully have a number on it raises my suspesion alot. i usede to get offers like this all the time over there, and its mostely people that are just botting, not saying that it is what you do but it sounds Alot like it. can you please prove it is real people and not just viewbots, because if its the last one i mentionede then this is against chaturbates Terms of service, and should not be take lightely...

 

[Puffin]

I’d like to help a few Chaturbate performers in exchange for you reviewing my new service and testing it out.

Why Chaterbate rather then other cam sites like MyFreeCams.com?

I’ll deliver 200-300 registered views for the next 2-3 days. I’m not asking anything in return, I know I need to prove myself first.

Do you mean they are already registered with Chaturbate? It seems you meant unregistered viewers?

During this limited beta testing period I’m only going to work with 5-10 girls (or guys). I’ll choose the most promising candidates that I think can benefit the most from my help.

Can you explain how you will choose?

I’ll deliver 200-300 registered views for the next 2-3 days. I’m not asking anything in return, I know I need to prove myself first.

It is all hours and time, I ask because it's not really useful to receive traffic when offline.
Are these English speaking visitors?
What is the website(s) they are coming from? It is porn related?
What is the breakdown of the countries they come from?

comming from a Twitch.tv background as a streamer there, this seems Really sketchy, like its one thing that you say you can bring some people in, but that you actully have a number on it raises my suspesion alot.

A webmaster who has complete control over a website, with a dedicated server and selects there own software usually knows exactly the stats of visitors and path through pages, timing and exit traffic etcetera. Personally, I'd be more concerned if a webmaster didn't know there traffic stats inside out.

 

[gudheadt]

A webmaster who has complete control over a website, with a dedicated server and selects there own software usually knows exactly the stats of visitors and path through pages, timing and exit traffic etcetera. Personally, I'd be more concerned if a webmaster didn't know there traffic stats inside out.

the problem is that botting is Huge on other stream sites, one of them being twitch.tv, we havent yet seen it in camming in full reality yet, and it would be a shame if a cam girl that did not know about it where getting in to it, and there by getting banned. there for i think it would be a great idear to show that its actully legit, and not just braindead view bots, which only where there to boost you up the ranks.

 

[SteveR]

Thanks for your interest and questions. I'll do my best to answer them.

Ummm maybe you should know that chaturbate changed their ranking system pretty recently . Registred viewers without tokens ( greys ) don't count for room placement anymore , only people with tokens can make your room's placement higher . So you can have even 1000 registred viewers and you can be on 2-3-4-5 [page if the guys with tokens don't come into your room .

I wasn't aware of the recent change in the ranking algorithm, but it shouldn't be an issue. I'll have to do some additional testing to confirm. Thanks for letting me know as it is obviously a big deal for someone trying to rank and I'm a bit embarrassed to admit that I didn't know!

If you don't mind me asking, where did you learn this? I've search in several forums and so far haven't come across much about their algorithm.

... botting, not saying that it is what you do but it sounds Alot like it. can you please prove it is real people and not just viewbots, because if its the last one i mentionede then this is against chaturbates Terms of service, and should not be take lightely...

Without getting overly technical, yes, the viewers are "bots" and not humans. I should have been more forthcoming with that in my original post. I sincerely apologize. I didn't feel the details were relevant, and I didn't want to share too much of my methods. However, your point that it has the potential to have negative consequences for the performer is well taken. I wouldn't want anyone to get banned. I would have liked to update my original post so that no one is accidentally misled, but I don't seem to be able to do that.

Surprisingly, bots aren't against Chaturbates Terms of Service. I've read it over several times in full (a somewhat lengthy read) and there isn't anything about bots or automated systems. If you know of something otherwise then please let me know! The terms might change in the future of course, but for now it is allowed.

I will contact Chaturbate to confirm this fact. I assume they don't like bots and I know they do try to prevent them, but so far I haven't seem them going beyond that.

Why Chaterbate rather then other cam sites like MyFreeCams.com?

Chaturbate's scoring algorithm is based on viewers with tokens (so I've now learned), so it's possible to rank higher by having more of them in your room. MyFreeCams.com camscore is based on your earnings in a period of time, which isn't something I know how to improve right now.

In the future I would like to expand to MyFreeCams, but for now I want to focus my service on just one site.

Do you mean they are already registered with Chaturbate? It seems you meant unregistered viewers?

Yes, they are already registered with Chaturbate. They are not anonymous.

Can you explain how you will choose?

I didn't intend for it to be mysterious. Whoever is interested and I think will benefit. If there is too many then I'll start with those that I think have the most potential and create a waiting list for the rest. My plan is to start with a few people and see how it goes. It was not my intention to exclude anyone if that what you were thinking. In the future, I expect I'll give a free 2 day trial to anyone that is interested.

It is all hours and time, I ask because it's not really useful to receive traffic when offline.

The traffic would only be sent when you are online.

Steve

 

[gudheadt]

Without getting overly technical, yes, the viewers are "bots" and not humans. I should have been more forthcoming with that in my original post. I sincerely apologize. I didn't feel the details were relevant, and I didn't want to share too much of my methods. However, your point that it has the potential to have negative consequences for the performer is well taken. I wouldn't want anyone to get banned. I would have liked to update my original post so that no one is accidentally misled, but I don't seem to be able to do that.

Surprisingly, bots aren't against Chaturbates Terms of Service. I've read it over several times in full (a somewhat lengthy read) and there isn't anything about bots or automated systems. If you know of something otherwise then please let me know! The terms might change in the future of course, but for now it is allowed.

I will contact Chaturbate to confirm this fact. I assume they don't like bots and I know they do try to prevent them, but so far I haven't seem them going beyond that.

as far as i know they have changede there system because some cam girls claimede other cam girls usede bots to get there ranks up.. so i would guess they arent to happy about that. also i would immagain like any other streaming site that they have a fair play policy.

 

[evie19]

Chaturbate never made an official statement about their new change I think but is all over twitter . Some people emailed chaturbate staff and they confirmed that greys don't count for page ranking anymore .

 

[Zoomer]

So you're wanting to make money (take a percentage) from models based on running bots to pretend they have viewers in the hope it makes them more attractive, boosts presence and makes money? The only "value" you bring is fake numbers in the hope people will join a "busy" room and tip.

You know what REALLY works for boosting numbers and getting tips? People taking part could instead just get naked and do a show rather than rely on fake viewers. The busiest rooms are always those doing something hot - and the added bonuses are:
1) They'll actually get tips instead of a busy room going "wtf is this busy?"
2) They then won't have to share their money with a script kiddy.

I can't put enough contempt in my post for how I view your "entrepreneurial" spirit; indeed, I'd use some other choice adjectives to describe you instead. You're not a promotion service...

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Does your system work with Freeturbate as well?

 

[LilyBlueBBW]

No Tea! No Shade! But hun....this sounds like a scam. I haven't been camming long enough to really understand anything that people are saying in this thread but the general consensus is that it's a scam. How are you going to get 300 people in a room at one time unless those are bots? Last time I checked, bots don't tip. I got bills and coney dogs to buy so I can't be getting down with no bots. I am normally down for anything but I got a pretty nice little following on chaturbate and I am not looking to get rid of it by being banned from the site cause I am trying to get one over on the site owners. I am sure that you mean well and your intentions are good but unless you produce some real proof that this whole thing is legit and on the level, nobody is going to mess with it. People got bills to pay and kids to take care of and some folks on here consider camming to be their main income and nobody is going to mess that up for a possible pipe dream. I would love to make $300 or $400 a day from camming but I would want to do it the right way and not dishonest like this. I am sure a lot of people on here would probably agree with me. So good luck with this and hopefully it is indeed legit.

 

[gudheadt]

if possible then you could also share the email you will be getting from chaturbate, because im 100% sure this is not allowed, even if its not in there tos.
and to models that want to try this, dont you think it would look a little weird to chaturbate if your viewer count Just suddenly raisede 200-300+ people in the room with out any explanation, dont you think chaturbate would go "here is one that uses bot's" and ban you.
maby your intentions are good but its usede on something thats wrong.

 

[Carmita Bonita]

More viewers and the use of bots doesn't equate more money so I don't see how a "service" like this could be helpful. I've been broadcasting on cb for 3 years and have not noticed an increase of money whether I'm at 1,400 viewers or 400 personally. Increase of begging people, yes & random tippers but not anything huge. If it also looks obvious that a girl is using a bot who is not normally in the higher page placement...idk I'd be kinda mortified if someone accused me of using bots to increase my ranking. I would not want to spend any $$$ on bots in the hopes I would make money from more viewers. Any camgirl is better off being consistent, logging in and forming regulars and not focusing so much on the room count and keeping all her hard earned money.

 

[LilyBlueBBW]

More viewers and the use of bots doesn't equate more money so I don't see how a "service" like this could be helpful. I've been broadcasting on cb for 3 years and have not noticed an increase of money whether I'm at 1,400 viewers or 400 personally. Increase of begging people, yes & random tippers but not anything huge. If it also looks obvious that a girl is using a bot who is not normally in the higher page placement...idk I'd be kinda mortified if someone accused me of using bots to increase my ranking. I would not want to spend any $$$ on bots in the hopes I would make money from more viewers. Any camgirl is better off being consistent, logging in and forming regulars and not focusing so much on the room count and keeping all her hard earned money.

How did you get a bottle of orange juice to stick up your ass? Do you do kegel exercises? I got to learn that.

 

[Puffin]

Without getting overly technical, yes, the viewers are "bots" and not humans. I should have been more forthcoming with that in my original post. I sincerely apologize. I didn't feel the details were relevant, and I didn't want to share too much of my methods. However, your point that it has the potential to have negative consequences for the performer is well taken. I wouldn't want anyone to get banned. I would have liked to update my original post so that no one is accidentally misled, but I don't seem to be able to do that.

Surprisingly, bots aren't against Chaturbates Terms of Service. I've read it over several times in full (a somewhat lengthy read) and there isn't anything about bots or automated systems. If you know of something otherwise then please let me know! The terms might change in the future of course, but for now it is allowed.

Steve, thanks for your reply and your honesty.

As bringing bots doesnt assist Charurbate, then it seems likely that Chaturbate would take action to discourage such activity.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Hello Caturbate CamGirls! (and CamGuys!)
Do you want more viewers for your shows?Of course you do
I know you’re skeptical, especially of guys offering to “help” you.
I’m not here to waste either of our time.
So I’m going prove I’m the real deal.
I’m not asking anything in return.
I’m starting a legit business.
After you try it out for free
I'm thinking a percent of your increased profits
I know there are a lot of scamers around
I’m able to bring 200-300 viewers to any show that I want.
I expect to be able to deliver even more viewers.
I’ve been testing the system on unsuspecting rooms over the past week.
the more guys you’re exposed to (pun intended!) the more will follow you
I have a lot of experience
I’ve applied my experience with SEO to Chaturbate and developed a system to drive registered viewers
Is this some scam?
What’s your angle?
I know you need to be careful and this might sound a bit “too good to be true.”
establish that I’m an honest business and able to deliver on my word.
I’ve had a few successful websites in other industries
I’m happy to share my personal information with anyone interested in working with me

Yep, that just about covers all the buzzwords someone would say while trying to convince themselves and everyone else they aren't a scammer.

 

[AnneDVille]

Soooo.... you want to be paid for the 'service' of bringing 300 non-paying bots into a model's room?

I'm confused now....

 

[BooyaaS]

Botting is already going on on MFC mostly by studio models. You join a room with 600 viewers and there's 2-3 premiums a couple of basics and 590 guests. If the room is boring it doesn't matter how high it is placed real people aren't going to join and stick around. Funny thing is I never see other models complaining about it, I would be pretty mad at them trying to cheat the system.

 

[SteveR]

Thanks everyone for your comments and feedback. In all sincerity, it's been very helpful to understand your concerns. And I'n glad to see there is a very healthy dose of skepticism and concern. I'll do my best to answer all the questions.

Here is the tl;dr (short) version:

I'm offering a bot service for free. I posted here to find some people to test the theory that being on the first page will make you more money. You'll still need a decent show of course. I don't know it will work for sure, but my experience says it should. Those that try it for free can also review my service to let others know if it worked or not.

If my bot service does work and it makes you more money, then I think it's fair that I would be financially compensated. It's too soon to talk about that, for now I just want to see if it works. I know performers aren't going to offer a percent of their earnings on what I say, that's why I'm offering a free trial.

Bots are controversial. They aren't specifically against Chaturbate's terms of service, but they probably don't like them.

Chaturbate never made an official statement about their new change I think but is all over twitter . Some people emailed chaturbate staff and they confirmed that greys don't count for page ranking anymore .

Thanks Evie19. I really appreciate the tip.

So you're wanting to make money (take a percentage) from models

I'm offering to provide my service for free for a few days so people can try it out. Yes, I'd like to make money (such as a percentage, or a fee) but I think that's reasonable. Chaturbate takes 50% for providing their services of collecting money and streaming videos. You could just perform independently and keep 100%. If I can increase your viewers and make you an extra money, then yes, I think it's fair to ask for a percent of that increase. My thinking would be to take your average earnings from previous few weeks (or months), then ask for a percent of anything your earn above your average. So if you make the same, or less, I'd get paid nothing. I didn't go into details on that because, it's really too soon to be talking about. The main point of my post was to find people interested in trying it out for free so that I can prove it works.

The only "value" you bring is fake numbers in the hope people will join a "busy" room and tip.

Yes, that's the idea exactly. I could be wrong, but I think being on the first page is likely going to get you a lot more viewers than on page 2 or page 10. I know that's very true of Google, and I suspect it's also very true on cam sites, but I don't have any proof yet. On Google, the first result gets 50% of traffic, the second gets about 10% and after that it's very small numbers. The second page gets almost zero. My theory is that cam sites are the same.

You'll note that the subject for the thread is "testers and reviews." I don't actually claim that it will work. That's why I'm looking for people.

The busiest rooms are always those doing something hot

I agree 100%. Getting a top ranking won't make you any more money unless it's a decent show as well. People aren't going to tip for no reason. That's why I wanted to select the "most promising candidates."

2) They then won't have to share their money with a script kiddy.

Getting 100% of $0 isn't that much fun. But sharing 50% of an extra $100 is nice. And if I can get an unknown performer on the first page so they are noticed and can earn that extra $50, then I feel that's a valuable service. If that performer is seen by thousands of more people, and gets more followers and a larger fan base, then I'm happy to have helped.

I can't put enough contempt in my post for how I view your "entrepreneurial" spirit; indeed, I'd use some other choice adjectives to describe you instead.

I appreciate you keeping the discussion civil

For all those performers on page 2 or 3 that are putting on great shows and can't quite break onto the first page, what would it be worth to you? Honestly, I don't know how much, but I want to give them a shot and see.

Does your system work with Freeturbate as well?

I'm not familiar with Freeturbate, but it looks like a white label version of Chaturbate. If that's the case, then yes, it would work the same.

I am sure that you mean well and your intentions are good but unless you produce some real proof that this whole thing is legit and on the level, nobody is going to mess with it.

Thanks LexyLyn for your feedback and thoughts. You're exactly right, and that's why I posted here 1) to get feedback 2) to see if anyone is interested in trying it out and 3) prove I'm legit.

I would want to do it the right way and not dishonest like this.

As I said, it's not against Chaturbate terms of service. Obviously, I don't want to risk getting anyone banned.

Soooo.... you want to be paid for the 'service' of bringing 300 non-paying bots into a model's room?

Correct. I know, it's doesn't make sense on the surface since bots aren't going to tip Let's say you're on page 3. No one sees your room. I send 300 non-paying bots to your rom so now you're on the first page and lots of humans see your room, watch your show, and they are the ones that tip you.

And for the 17th time, I'm offering to do it for free to see 1) if it does actually work like I think and 2) so you can believe me that it does without paying anything As others have pointed out, you still have to have a good show.

Yep, that just about covers all the buzzwords someone would say while trying to convince themselves and everyone else they aren't a scammer.

Exactly why I'm offering my service for free. I know my words aren't worth anything. The proof will be in you seeing that you earn more tips.

Again, I do really appreciate all your comments. I know I didn't explain things very well in my original post, so I hope my intension and what I'm offering are clearer now.

I starting the think the best proof might be for me to perform myself and see how I do I might just do that, since what better way to prove my service then to put my own skin in the game!

Steve

 

[Gen]

Getting 100% of $0 isn't that much fun. But sharing 50% of an extra $100 is nice. And if I can get an unknown performer on the first page so they are noticed and can earn that extra $50, then I feel that's a valuable service. If that performer is seen by thousands of more people, and gets more followers and a larger fan base, then I'm happy to have helped.

Correct me if I'm wrong but are you saying you plan to charge 50% of the model's income if they successfully use your service? If so, I would really reconsider your expectations. First because although you may be able to find a correlation between using your bot & increased income, you won't be able to definitively say for every individual model/show that your bots were the reason she made $100 instead of $0. More to the point, most models would not be willing to give up 50% of their take home for some bots. If they were interested in that, they could go join a studio that also uses bots and takes less of a fee.

Also, I'm not sure I'd call it "helped" if you are charging for it (which I recognize you aren't *yet* - but if that's the plan). I know most of this is theoretical now - but my point is just to say that you shouldn't expect to make a killing off of this. Even if it does work, I don't think the majority of models would pay a significant amount for the service.

Botting is already going on on MFC mostly by studio models. You join a room with 600 viewers and there's 2-3 premiums a couple of basics and 590 guests. If the room is boring it doesn't matter how high it is placed real people aren't going to join and stick around. Funny thing is I never see other models complaining about it, I would be pretty mad at them trying to cheat the system.

You said it yourself - they have 600 viewers and 2-3 premiums. Models might be mad if it worked, but it rarely does, so I don't think most models find it threatening.

 

[SteveR]

Thanks GenXoxo for your question.

Correct me if I'm wrong but are you saying you plan to charge 50% of the model's income if they successfully use your service?

I meant 50% of any increase in earnings.

So, if I help you bring in an extra $100 (above what you normally make) then I'm suggesting I'd get paid a percent of that increase. If you made the same, or less, then I'd get nothing. I would only want to get paid if I actually helped you make more money. I'm really trying my best to put all the risk on me and my services, and not cost a performer anything unless I deliver results and make them money. So no upfront fee, or flat rates because you might not make enough to cover those costs and end up losing money.

I am trying to suggest a true partnership. One were I would only make money if the perform makes money as well and we both benefit.

Sorry if the money and 50% discussion is confusing. I totally agree, taking a 50% of the total would be way too high.

As you said, it's too soon to really discuss since I want to prove it works first

You said it yourself - they have 600 viewers and 2-3 premiums. Models might be mad if it worked, but it rarely does, so I don't think most models find it threatening.

For bots to be effective, they have to appear natural and not so blunt. If they are obviously bots then they get blocked etc. Having 500 viewers suddenly appear in a room or leave is not natural. Having all greys or only 2-3 premiums isn't natural. And there are many similar things on the technical side. If all your viewers have the same browsers, or come from the same IP address its not natural.

Hmm, maybe I need to work on a bot that can write annoying comments as well so mods will ban them

Steve

 

[Gen]

I appreciate the clarification and am always glad to see people take criticism/questions without getting defensive, haha. Thanks!

 

[Empress Mika]

Wow... So, I'm new to Chaturbate (coming from MFC) and I'm usually on page 2. So, I'm probably one of your target members. Let me give you a piece of my mind.

1. I personally find this to be really unethical. I also think that most models that are taking their caming career seriously on Chaturbate would NEVER want to be known to have achieved any kind of success by using bots to boost his or her rankings. The long term value of this is embarrassing at best for anyone serious, in my opinion. Therefore, you will be left with models that aren't as serious or looking to take short cuts. Neither of these are a recipe for long term success.

2. It sounds harsh but models on page 2 or beyond may be there for a reason. Maybe they're not explicit enough (like me). Maybe they didn't put in the time to develop regulars. Whatever the reason, I don't imagine bots placing them on the first page will magically create an environment where new people stay and tip as though they were missing out by not clicking page 2. Users WILL click page 2 if they want a slower paced room. I know because I'm one of them. This also insults those that have put in the time and effort to place themselves on page 1 consistently. Who are you to try to rock the boat on that and disrupt our community in this way?

3. Chaturbate is known to be very ban happy. I believe this botting service, although not directly stated as being against the rules in their TOS, is a huge risk to use. Already, we see that Chaturbate has updated their contest to only users with tokens counting towards receiving points in a direct effort to disqualify people that use bots. What's next? Perhaps banning people that use bots entirely? It's not far fetched. I'm sure you would not be responsible if someone was banned, as a result of using your botting service. What then? That model is out a job and now has to start fresh on a new caming website. Is this service really looking out for what's best for us models? No. It's you trying to make money off of us.

4. It'd be really tough to define what "extra" money is made with your botting service. Would you take an average of everything the model has made in the past year? If so, would the model be required to show you their private earning information to you? Ignoring all of this, 50% is pretty steep. Even if I make 500 tokens, that is $25 for me because Chaturbate already takes about 50% of the cut. Of that $25, I would then keep $12.50 because the other half went to you? I mean, I guess every little bit adds up but this isn't very much at all considering all of the other points I mentioned.

It is my sincerest hope that you do not implement this and find some other way to contribute to our caming community, except in a positive way.

 

[gudheadt]

can anyone tag shirely? then she can give us the final verdict, she is properly the one that are best of us all to judge this.
but it seems like i would not recomend Anyone to get in to, even if they change there system back to the old one.
any scripykitty could whip this up and charge models for "fake views"

i would personaly not Dare to even go in to this, Even if you gave me money for it. because im 99% sure you will get your account banned and your ip blockede from cb, if it gets cought...

i might be wrong but it seems to me like you properly knew about this new update in there algarethym, but are trying to exploid new cam model. i mean if you have seriusly done your homework and just done a little research, by looking at the front page, seeing people with 300 views in there room, surronded by rooms that got like 1000+views. or going on cam girl's/boy's twitter, then you would see that a lot of people have been writing about this, and posting screenshots from emails where cb confirms this change.
so eighter you have not done the nessasary research or else you are trying to rip people off....

 

[nzhere]

Don't bother trying it on Chaturbate..

The best place to do this would be at a wonderful site called Bongacams.com

Have you heard of it?

 

[Zoomer]

You want 50% of the increase in earnings for running a bot. Seriously? You run a few scripts and its worth an equal share of the money being earned to the person who's actually doing work each and every time? You've put in effort just once, and take 50% of their earnings in perpetuity (once being the set up of the bot(s) - after that you just run it).

The person who actually earns the money via stripping and whatever else has to put in the work every single time to have just an equal share...

Another perspective - you want to take as big a cut in earnings as the website that provides the entire infrastructure that the models rely upon? As big a cut in earnings (even just the increase) as a studio which provides lighting, electronics and a building?

Do you honestly think it's fair? What's the overhead cost on this? Is it not just a program you downloaded and have configured? You actually done *anything* that's remotely 'talented' in all this? Maybe I should caveat this - is anything you're doing worth a perpetual 50% of extra income? (for as long as they use your "service"). Revise the %age cut significantly down and maybe i'd be less "WTVF" about it.

Your "service" is pretty much parasitic. Just like with normal parasites, you just latch on - do next to *nothing* and expect a lovely free ride. The higher the %age cut, the worse it seems.
Running bot scripts is not entrepreneurial - and at 50% of their increased revenue (how is that measurable) it appears predatory.

 

[BiancaBaker]

I was going to write out this huge long post on how what your offering is ridiculous but now I will only say:

GIRLS PLEASE DO NOT SIGN UP WITH THIS RIDICULOUS SCAM.

That's all it is, is a scam because BOT's do not make you money. CB does not count grey's as people anymore SO if you have 200 bots in your room GUESS what your still on page 2 unless this guy is delivering you blue's then its worthless (which he is not) learn how to market yourself, be on cam everyday and gain viewers that way (and paying ones) this is the dumbest thing I have heard in a long time.

You are taking earnings from a model when she is doing all the work, all your doing is delivering BOTS which do not help her with $$ ?? SO a girl who is new could think this is a great idea (OH MORE PPL= MORE MONEY) NO that is not how it works AT ALL. The bots are not going to make you any money because they cannot tip so you are giving a model bots for her to give you some of her earnings that she earned (NOT YOU) from bots who do not tip and do not do anything since CB does not count greys.

 

[SteveR]

That's all it is, is a scam because BOT's do not make you money.

You've missed the point entirely. Of course bots won't make you any money. The job of the bots is to get you to the first page so you get noticed by humans that will tip.

As I've repeated many times, I'm offering this for free as a trial, so girls can try it out for themselves to see if it does make money.

Please, re-read my answers to the above posts. I admit that my original post did not explain things very clearly. Sorry about that.

You want 50% of the increase in earnings for running a bot.

I'm open to other suggestions. I didn't want performs to have to pay a fixed price because I thought that would risk them losing money. My thought was to share in any extra money earned that my service provides.

I would discuss and agree to terms with anyone interested in my services. At this point I just looking for people to try it for free to see if it works.

Another perspective - you want to take as big a cut in earnings as the website that provides the entire infrastructure that the models rely upon?

No, that wouldn't be fair at all! I agree completely. You seem to understand that I was suggesting a percent of the increase, but now you are confusing it with a percent of the performers overall earnings.

Honestly, I wish I didn't even mention anything to do with costs etc. because it wasn't even the point of the original post.

 

[AmberCutie]

Using BOTs to make your room look more popular is on par with buying Twitter followers: pretty useless in the grand scheme of things but people still do it for some reason. But it's pretty easy to tell when someone does either of these things, and it looks pretty silly to the rest of us.

 

[BiancaBaker]

You've missed the point entirely. Of course bots won't make you any money. The job of the bots is to get you to the first page so you get noticed by humans that will tip.

As I've repeated many times, I'm offering this for free as a trial, so girls can try it out for themselves to see if it does make money.

Please, re-read my answers to the above posts. I admit that my original post did not explain things very clearly. Sorry about that.


I'm open to other suggestions. I didn't want performs to have to pay a fixed price because I thought that would risk them losing money. My thought was to share in any extra money earned that my service provides.

I would discuss and agree to terms with anyone interested in my services. At this point I just looking for people to try it for free to see if it works.


No, that wouldn't be fair at all! I agree completely. You seem to understand that I was suggesting a percent of the increase, but now you are confusing it with a percent of the performers overall earnings.

Honestly, I wish I didn't even mention anything to do with costs etc. because it wasn't even the point of the original post.

How will bots make you go to the first page if greys are NO longer counted for?? Multiple people have said this and you keep saying the same exact thing.. How would a girl even share any added money or why should she when she's doing all the work? Your not bringing in PAYING customers.. Your bringing in bots who do not count for anything...