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I don't think "respect" has anything to do with it. "Respect" goes a long way, but tokens are the currency of MFC. The landlord doesn't give a crap how much "respect" a model gets per shift.

For a lot of models on MFC, it's their livelihood. They said to themselves "what the hell, I'll get naked if that's what it takes to pay the rent in this job market" or "yipee, I get to get naked for a lot of guys" or something in between and signed went and up as models, expecting that nudity, and performing a variety of sexualish acts would be part of their daily life. That's honest camwhoring. They perform in public or private, pervs get off, and $ are turned into tokens that change hands which are then turned back into $ for the models. There's a quid and a quo.

What is it that non-nudels provide? What do they offer? Why do non-nudels think pervs are tipping them? For their "vibe"? For a chance to talk with women? For a chance to protect damsels from all the nasty MFC trolls? Because they watch them jack-off on cam? Are they affection sinks? Are non-nudels the daughter they never had, or the daughter they wish they had been a better father for, or the daughter they wish they could talk dirty with? Are non-nudels some kind of camwives/camgfs without benefits, who don't make him sleep on the couch when he's drunk? Are they spending their money on non-nudels to see them smile and say "Thank you, TallDarkHandsome" while watching some honest camwhore diddling herself for more goal-oriented pervs' tips in a lounge pop-up?

What do non-nudels think the reason is that guys who come to MFC pretty much exclusively to jerk off give them tips? And when you think about it, are you more comfortable providing that thing for money than you would be taking your top off?
 
morment said:
I just don't understand the point of being a non-nude model on a site like MFC, aren't there sites out there that are exclusively non-nude?

Because some models are good entertainers even without being topless or naked, and will gain admirers just from their personality.

Also, the non-nude sites that you speak of don't have the traffic that MFC has. Sure, they'll brag about how they pay higher percentages than other sites, but a percentage of 80% means nothing if your site has shitty traffic. *coughs* OnHerCam *cough, cough*

Sorry that I'm responding to this nearly three years later, but someone else bumped this thread, which brought it back to my attention. :)
 
NayruFae said:
I really don't like the idea that all non-nude models apparently are holier than thou, CherryPi's post being an epitome of that attitude.

It kind of saddens me to see the hateful kind of response CherryPi has taken the time to write. :I

Who is CherryPi? I haven't seen that name in this thread. He/she must've changed their name?
 
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yummybrownfox said:
NayruFae said:
I really don't like the idea that all non-nude models apparently are holier than thou, CherryPi's post being an epitome of that attitude.

It kind of saddens me to see the hateful kind of response CherryPi has taken the time to write. :I

Who is CherryPi? I haven't seen that name in this thread. He/she must've changed their name?

She changed it to Jeeeeesus. Inactive on ACF for a couple of years now.
 
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Seems like a silly thing to get all worked up over. Whether a model is nude or non-nude its all between the model and her customers. I don't see how the models or the customers of either type can claim any kind of moral high ground over the other. Its just entertainment either way.
 
MemberEd said:
Its just entertainment either way.

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I actually don't mind that there are some non-nude models. Many of them do provide great entertainment without having to take their clothes off. And some of us love the tease aspect of it.
Don't get me wrong. I originally sought out MFC for the naked women as much as anyone else did. And yeah, I do still like seeing women naked.
Everyone's got different comfort levels, and a different body image. I even know a few guys who won't take their shirts off at the beach or poolside.
 
LadyLuna said:
OH! And I have gotten tips to put clothes on. One guy tipped to get them off. When no one else was tipping, he didn't want the freeloaders to benefit, so tipped to get them back on. lol

Some years back, that use to be a much more common practice at MFC...at one end of the perv spectrum, a way to seize some control of the room and makes both the guy and the model happy :whistle:

At the other, something like returning control of the room to the model, which makes some of the guys the groomsman for the white knight. :lol:

For whatever reason, it use to be more common. And it feels like whatever motivates that practice is one of things that makes room for the nn model in camland.
 
Personally, non nude models who do privates are totally cool with me. When I frequented CamWithHer, it was topless only, in fact, and I was totally fine with that. My private shows are very sensual/sexual to me and not an article of clothing has to come off in them. Sometimes when I do take a model who does get nude private, it gets super awkward when I request an outfit and for her to keep it on. A lot of non-nude models are used to and damn good with leg and foot guys or whatever other non-nude desire a member might have. Not saying that nude models can't be exceptional at this, too, I'm just saying non-nude models are fine. :twocents-02cents:
 
....for my personal taste, after you roam the MFC halls as long as I have, the common camgirl fap is all kinda.... "beige" now. You can only use a toy/fuck machine/fingers, so many ways. I look more for intelligence and creativity in the entertainment. There are some NN that are quite fresh and very inventive. Some are also considerably more seductive as well, than common naked. Don't get me wrong, I still visit many rooms and have many naked regulars. The "porn aspect" tho just doesn't hold the same draw as it used to. :twocents-02cents:
 
Non-nude models seem to get a bad wrap because some people don't believe their shows are not token-worthy, but I think this extends to nude models as well. I think as long as the model isn't falsely advertising that she will do something when she won't, people need quite bitching about the amount of tokens she makes, because, whoever is tipping is obviously getting some enjoyment out of her show, even if someone else isn't :roll: If you don't like a show, don't tip and GTFO. :twocents-02cents:
 
xxxpage said:
Is it possible for a model to go from nude to non nude and be successful at camming? I always wonder that.

I'm a nude model myself as I like being naked, even though my regs often say they couldn't give a fuck if i'm fully clothed cos they like hanging out with me (not that they complain when the clothes fall off lol). From what I can see girls in their early 20s who have chosen to go from nude to non-nude make the transition pretty successfully. For me, a model in my 30s, I can see that if I did decide that from now on my clothes were always staying on it would be pretty damn difficult to keep refreshing my audience and bringing in new regs. There is an expectation that as a 'mature' woman (hahaha at the thought that I am in any way mature, most of the time I feel like a big kid) you will take your clothes off, play with yourself etc as you've been around the block a few times (I recently asked one of my regs whe we were talking about this exact same subject to name me a single successful 30 something or older non nude and he had to concur with me that he couldn't). I have a theory that a proportion of tippers who hang out in non nude rooms are hoping that their tip will be the one to tip the balance and persuade a girl to rip her clothes off, as human beings we are all programmed to want what's not on offer after all, especially when the model is cute, young and innocent looking. I'd say having observed the chat in non nude rooms from random pervs that there is some substance to my theory but feel free to argue with me lol.
 
xxxpage said:
Is it possible for a model to go from nude to non nude and be successful at camming? I always wonder that.
I believe OliviaNaked started out that way and is now pretty much non-nude. (Occasional nude, in an artistic way though)
 
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xxxpage said:
Is it possible for a model to go from nude to non nude and be successful at camming? I always wonder that.

The majority of non-nude models in the top 100 began their MFC career without being non-nude. Most would do privates and sell videos, etc. However, over years of hard work, they've gained so many regulars that they can successfully pull in a normal paycheck without doing the things that made them uncomfortable in the first place. So, yes, you can be successful as a non-nude, but it will be hard work (the same as any successful model [nude or non-nude] will tell you).
 
Kittycatpurr said:
xxxpage said:
Is it possible for a model to go from nude to non nude and be successful at camming? I always wonder that.

I'm a nude model myself as I like being naked, even though my regs often say they couldn't give a fuck if i'm fully clothed cos they like hanging out with me (not that they complain when the clothes fall off lol). From what I can see girls in their early 20s who have chosen to go from nude to non-nude make the transition pretty successfully. For me, a model in my 30s, I can see that if I did decide that from now on my clothes were always staying on it would be pretty damn difficult to keep refreshing my audience and bringing in new regs. There is an expectation that as a 'mature' woman (hahaha at the thought that I am in any way mature, most of the time I feel like a big kid) you will take your clothes off, play with yourself etc as you've been around the block a few times (I recently asked one of my regs whe we were talking about this exact same subject to name me a single successful 30 something or older non nude and he had to concur with me that he couldn't). I have a theory that a proportion of tippers who hang out in non nude rooms are hoping that their tip will be the one to tip the balance and persuade a girl to rip her clothes off, as human beings we are all programmed to want what's not on offer after all, especially when the model is cute, young and innocent looking. I'd say having observed the chat in non nude rooms from random pervs that there is some substance to my theory but feel free to argue with me lol.

JerryBoBerry said:
I believe OliviaNaked started out that way and is now pretty much non-nude. (Occasional nude, in an artistic way though)

But I think the majority of people don't believe that Olivia's actually as old as her profile claims (32). She looks about a decade younger, but may just have good genes.
While many models might subtract a year or 5 off their real age, I could see her adding a few extra to hers just for kicks. It doesn't matter to me either way. Age is really just a number, after all.
And it may be the fact that I myself am just getting older, but I find the nudity isn't always as important anymore. I can spend hours in a model's room talking about interesting things, and hardly a thought is given to the fact that everyone's still clothed at the end of the night.
 
emptiedglass said:
Kittycatpurr said:
xxxpage said:
Is it possible for a model to go from nude to non nude and be successful at camming? I always wonder that.

I'm a nude model myself as I like being naked, even though my regs often say they couldn't give a fuck if i'm fully clothed cos they like hanging out with me (not that they complain when the clothes fall off lol). From what I can see girls in their early 20s who have chosen to go from nude to non-nude make the transition pretty successfully. For me, a model in my 30s, I can see that if I did decide that from now on my clothes were always staying on it would be pretty damn difficult to keep refreshing my audience and bringing in new regs. There is an expectation that as a 'mature' woman (hahaha at the thought that I am in any way mature, most of the time I feel like a big kid) you will take your clothes off, play with yourself etc as you've been around the block a few times (I recently asked one of my regs whe we were talking about this exact same subject to name me a single successful 30 something or older non nude and he had to concur with me that he couldn't). I have a theory that a proportion of tippers who hang out in non nude rooms are hoping that their tip will be the one to tip the balance and persuade a girl to rip her clothes off, as human beings we are all programmed to want what's not on offer after all, especially when the model is cute, young and innocent looking. I'd say having observed the chat in non nude rooms from random pervs that there is some substance to my theory but feel free to argue with me lol.

JerryBoBerry said:
I believe OliviaNaked started out that way and is now pretty much non-nude. (Occasional nude, in an artistic way though)

But I think the majority of people don't believe that Olivia's actually as old as her profile claims (32). She looks about a decade younger, but may just have good genes.
While many models might subtract a year or 5 off their real age, I could see her adding a few extra to hers just for kicks. It doesn't matter to me either way. Age is really just a number, after all.
And it may be the fact that I myself am just getting older, but I find the nudity isn't always as important anymore. I can spend hours in a model's room talking about interesting things, and hardly a thought is given to the fact that everyone's still clothed at the end of the night.
I think she looks her age. 32 is NOT old by any means, like not even remotely close. She shows the wisdom and maturity that comes with 32. 22 is youthful but lacks the life experience that is gained with time. She may be like me and kind of proud of those years.
 
I_Am_Iris said:
xxxpage said:
Is it possible for a model to go from nude to non nude and be successful at camming? I always wonder that.

The majority of non-nude models in the top 100 began their MFC career without being non-nude. Most would do privates and sell videos, etc. However, over years of hard work, they've gained so many regulars that they can successfully pull in a normal paycheck without doing the things that made them uncomfortable in the first place. So, yes, you can be successful as a non-nude, but it will be hard work (the same as any successful model [nude or non-nude] will tell you).

I wonder if it is more difficult now to stay as a non-nude model? I have seen quite a few go from nude to non-nude and are now back to nude again. :think:
 
Just Me said:
I_Am_Iris said:
xxxpage said:
Is it possible for a model to go from nude to non nude and be successful at camming? I always wonder that.

The majority of non-nude models in the top 100 began their MFC career without being non-nude. Most would do privates and sell videos, etc. However, over years of hard work, they've gained so many regulars that they can successfully pull in a normal paycheck without doing the things that made them uncomfortable in the first place. So, yes, you can be successful as a non-nude, but it will be hard work (the same as any successful model [nude or non-nude] will tell you).

I wonder if it is more difficult now to stay as a non-nude model? I have seen quite a few go from nude to non-nude and are now back to nude again. :think:

Well, it is a womans prerogative to change her mind. ;)
 
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